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wisconsin the tories one tunnel prison camp with british lawyer and university professor philip sands. today i'm joined by philip sands professor international or university college london and author of torture team and investigation into what's going on behind the closed doors of kuantan i'm obey mr sands thanks for speaking to r.t. so what torture techniques are interrogation techniques of actually being used at one time in my well it's pretty well established now what what emerged they adopted in the autumn of two thousand and two in the u.s. department of defense a series of eighteen techniques of interrogation arranged in three groups and the first group was. shouting and screaming. the second group upped the ante so to speak and included sleep deprivation the use of dogs to induce

fear. and then category three the worst of all included waterboarding and the use of water to induce misperceptions of suffocation that document emerged after the abu ghraib images emerged and i was interested to find out how a country which has turned its back against torture could have moved to adopt these techniques of interrogation so i began. rinser two thousand and five to begin to look more closely through a series of interviews of course united states on what had happened and what had been done by the bistro shit was to spin a story which effectively said it started down at guantanamo there were a group of individuals down at one time over and it did then work its way up the system what i stablish was that that's not accurate what had happened was that it had started at the top and then worked its way down with significant pressure from

the pentagon in particular people around the white house so the tale was very different from the one which the administration had spun how easy was it to uncover that truth i. began by knowing that i had to speak to people who had not previously spoken down at guantanamo and i focused on the lawyers and i began to approach a number of lawyers and once i had found one lawyer who was willing to speak with me who was a staff judge advocate down at guantanamo who was involved at the time back in two thousand and two once she had given me an account of what had happened i could then go to the next person and say well publicly it says this but i've now been told by this person who worked underneath you that this is in fact what happened would you care to comment on it and the door could then begin to open and what are the implications of your findings meaning you are giving your book that some of these techniques equate to war crimes is that right well i mean i focused on the

interrogation of one individual a detainee number sixty three alleged to be the twentieth. september eleventh hijacker. mohamed al khatami saudi national and i focused in particular on what had happened to him in the period november two thousand and two to january two thousand and three i reached the conclusion without any real difficulty that he had been subject to techniques that amount to torture torture is an international crime whether called a crime against humanity or a war crime it's prohibited under international more the united states a party to an international convention that outlaws it and the bottom line of it is if you engage in torture as a state you are responsible and you are responsible to do a number of things and one of the things you have to do is you have to investigate and you have to investigate what happened and that has never fully occurred. even the administration of president obama has if you like turned its back on the

possibility of a proper investigation to ascertain who authorized what when precisely wasn't a few bad eggs it was people right up top in. in fact the namely where president bush ultimately said he signed off on waterboarding and the that that happened in the summer of two thousand and two we now know it's pretty well established by a group of individuals with the president at the top don rumsfeld. economists rice was involved in the process and various lawyers you know in the national security council and in the department of justice who signed off on waterboarding approved waterboarding gave their support to waterboarding and that to me was shocking so what i want to know was how could in particular lawyers who'd been to the finest law school in the world you know to harvard to do. george carlin terrific law schools how had they got themselves into

a state that they were willing to sign off on techniques that amounted to more their answer i think there was a sense of intense pressure that the united states was under an unparalleled her i don't think that's a justification or an excuse or a reason but there was a tremendous sense of pressure coupled with the fact that a number of the lawyers involved at very senior level had no real background in the subject of international or the protection of the right individual and were very ideological in their approach basically they saw their function as lawyers not as being to give independent legal advice but to give the president the tools to do what he want to do that's not the function of a lawyer in any society in any democratic society but surely waterboarding rings alarm bells with any lawyer it should have rung alarm bells and it did ring alarm bells in many parts what i established was that two of the major organs of

government in united states were kept out of the process the military the upper echelons of the military were cut out of the process by don rumsfeld and general counsel jim haynes. and the state department was cut out of the process and the lawyers at the state department and the lawyers in the department of defense the military lawyers the career military lawyers know better than anyone that it's in the united states' interest not to engage in this kind of activity so they were caught over the process. and instead you got a group of ideologues brought in to give the president the tools to do what he wanted to do irrespective of whether there was a reasonable argument it was well for them not which individual moment and the investigation would use a shocking most when i was speaking with the folks who were down at guantanamo i discovered and my book actually broke the story that one of the influence it was in the autumn of two thousand and two was

a television program called twenty four which is a t.v. programme about the use of torture which promotes the idea really that torture works it produces results it's a sensible way to proceed and one of the people that are interviewed on beaver confirmed to me actually unexpectedly because i hadn't really asked a question. she just said that twenty four was a big influence and it created an environment and so you began to see that. the connection between popular cultural t.v. programs and what people do that was shocking so is there any chance those responsible for what went on at one time in my bay well actually be held to account there's already some degree of accountability i mean there's a group who are known as the bush six the six main lawyers at the top of the bush administration the former attorney general alberto gonzales the former department defense lawyer jim haynes some of department of justice lawyers john yoo jay bybee it's very difficult to know set foot outside the united states now there's every

possibility that they could be subject to questioning if they were to set foot outside the united states and there's some degree of accountability but my position is this is a breach of law this is potentially a crime and you need a criminal investigation and that has not happened and there's no indication that it will but what about former president bush is there a chance he could actually be charged with war crimes i mean president bush has rather brazenly given the series of interviews in which you know he says waterboarding is right why did i do it again dick cheney service same thing and has taken responsibility for it and that's had certain consequences in the sense that some of his international travel has been limited he was due to go last year to switzerland that didn't happen he said because there were questions there can be protests when he's gone to canada. who knows what will happen over time you know one of the things that i was involved with many years ago was the case of pinochet

. that was of course different time a different scale but it took twenty five years for the wheels of justice to sort of creak into motion and one day visiting london he was arrested and so these things take time you don't know when these things are going to produce results or what's going to happen and you know hangs a question of responsibility hangs in the hearing on the other. matters now saif gadhafi trial libya's recently announced that the trial will go ahead in libya under their laws but given what happened to his father surely there are concerns over libya's ability to actually hold a fair trial i mean i think there are concerns about. liberation of a country which over the past four decades has come to be associated with the high standards of criminal justice so i think it's reasonable to conclude that there are problems saif gadhafi has been indicted internationally i think there are good

arguments on trying him in libya or trying him at the international criminal court but if he's tried in libya the proceedings have to meet minimum international standards that can be done in a variety of ways but you can't have summary justice but since the arrest warrant was actually issued by the international criminal court then surely there isn't any actual legal framework for libya to hold the trial international criminal court works on a basis of a principle called complementarity. the i.c.c. the international court in the hague steps in if justice is not done locally so if justice is not done locally they'll be in there has to be an actual trial the libyans can demonstrate to the international criminal court that they can meet the new mishmash terms as they're free to try domestically but i think they're going to have to show to the international criminal court judges that they meet those international standards and i suspect saif gadhafi himself would be rather happy of being tried in the hague where he knows he's going to get in

a right and of course he's not going to get death penalty you've also written extensively about the iraq war and the legal issues surrounding that now do you see any similarities between the run up to what happened then and what's happening now in the standoff between iran and the west iraq went very wrong i think we know it went very wrong and there are very few people in this country in the united kingdom who are now really want to stand up for iraq on policy grounds and. even fuel on legal grounds i focused on it as a legal matter of this not in my view authorized by the security council he did not meet international legal requirements and it was therefore i'm in the legal. war but i think lessons have been learnt from that experience we saw some of that in relation to libya we saw that the security council did adopt a resolution russia and china did not return a resolution permitting some use of force question as to whether they exceeded the mandate. but there was

a security council resolution iran is working its way through the security council . who knows which way it will but i suspect the lesson of iraq is such that it will be very difficult to imagine the kind of coordinated military response with a large number of countries involved iraq in the case of iran in the absence of proper security council authorization for that sounds thank you thank you very much . oh.

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maybe get hold of the first post could offer you actions i mean i'm dressed in a country still being torn apart by chaos and tribal tensions. the deadline for joining us on his extradition problem the u.k. to sweden expires on saturday but the whistleblower were in danger in the sanctuary of a door of the embassy awaiting a decision on his asylum. and as the u.s. and its allies call for a u.n. resolution to allow military intervention against the syrian government we'll look at the striking pattern of nato tactics in foreign civil conflicts. because we have ninety or ninety anders here next with the latest sports.

welcome to the sports and these are the headlines making news mark and the murray gets in the story well no it's a song that is set up a wimbledon final against roger federer. plus terrible tiger woods is in west virginia to miss the cut for a ninth time on the p.g.a. tour. fighting fit mosco gets a surprise as famous athletes including kick boxing but there was sea called lined up to take public training session this city's legendary goal. let's start there with the tennis randy mary jo wilfried to song become the first british man to reach a woman final for seventy four years setting up a showdown with roger federer who beat defending champion about joke of each well this was the fourth straight semifinal win with him from memory i mean gone off to fly into the first set six three on the second six four however to song and then started hitting freely in the third and got a step back. after that though it was

pretty good murray ventry coming through seven five. much point coming in dramatic fashion after mary how you've got a long pole so that we're next in the world on the whole still after his first grand slam time. yeah so it was a great show and. you know one you know i'm probably not expected to win the much but one. you know if i play well i'm home capable of winning. but yeah i mean if you were his his record here over the past ten years or so. it's been been incredible so you know you know the pressure you know that i would be feeling if it was against somebody else i guess it would be different from intense and good moments you know even in the last you know.

proud of what i did you know even if i did some mistake and i was not good every time you know fights and the end of. this month you know and i would say ok. but i want. i did my best and and maybe next time you know and i've know the chance and then maybe i would go through and. well in the first semifinal federer of the world number one and defending champion novak djokovic from four sets the victory keeps the swiss on course for a record equalling seventh wimbledon title the sampras young man for victory that number safe our federal would also go top of the world rankings if they should be on sunday you will see both win the title so i will match you go where that but still of it's always nice feeling someone like novak was so well here last year and the last couple of years and. the big occasion.

is only hope michael. actually used it for the phones so he will plan to marry in the final then in the men's final on sunday and today stringer williams is aiming for her fifth wimbledon title she's up against. he was hoping to become. a grand slam winner. in other news tyson gay is showing why he's one of the main contenders for the men's hundred meters at this month's lympics the american winning the diamond league meeting in paris ok so you're making the same bold. break not there but gay got the better a better american justin gatlin to finish in a time of nine point nine nine seconds some way off the fastest time this year but a confidence boosting display again unless france's christophe lemaitre along for third. men's basketball team stay in the hunt for a place at the london games they beat angola eighty points to sixty five in the qualifying tournament in venezuela the tally the top score there for russia with

eighteen points while alexander call added seventeen it puts russia in the semifinals of the event where they must beat nigeria in order to secure a place at the olympics the african nation got a shock when i was eighteen points to seventy nine. meanwhile the first thousand volunteers for the games have arrived at london's heathrow airport some of the men and women here at sponsible for mating greeting and transporting athletes others will be helping out behind the scenes to make the olympic viewing experience hopefully a pleasurable one of the spectators seventy thousand people from the u.k. and abroad aged eighteen to eighty who make up the volunteer corps. now another newspaper see again has claimed his third stage win this year's tour de france getting the better of on the great bull in a sprint finish it was another relatively flat stage and again it was listed with crash is the most dignified. coming with ten kilometers to go frank schleck

a contender for the yellow jersey among those ending up in a ditch jury to tell you when a rider has also took a battering you can see he's cut leg their printers mark cavendish and on the group are also caught up in it so back in sagan voided all that mishap and had the power to cross the line in the green jersey damaged things out on the left hand side to take the win that his third stage win in his debut tour de france began tightening its grip then on the sprinters green jersey last week since friday in country lara stays in the oval. while some big names have also suffered on the fairways tiger woods and phil mickelson both missing the cut the greenbrier classic in west virginia would seem to have found form after victory at the congressional last weekend but after his opening round of seventy one he had a sixty nine on friday and that saw him missed the cut by a single stroke phil mickelson also goes home early while u.s. open winner simson is the man to catch. this is him

coming up he came in with a four under par sixty six nine gives him a one shot lead at the halfway stage from jonathan bird although several places still to finish their second round after a rain stopped play. multiple kickboxing world title holder but to see call of has also been helping out but not to be lympics instead the russian has been overseeing exercise sessions with a view to getting moscow's public fighting fit constantly put top of that up with the man himself. do has to go is fast becoming one of the best boxers the sport has to offer the must go i made headlines last year by defeating two legends . and then my exam it is he now holds six different titles including the prestigious k. one and w five world championship belt and now has a golf is preparing for ramage with a man whose jockey broke mike irons and bit is. it was

a great bow with zambia to seoul for those who enjoyed it i have some good news the story continues and will have another go either in october or december but we're both really looking forward to the fight i am as motivated as i ever was when you mention mike meanwhile has been working with the social projects which kicked off in moscow's famed gorky park last week were unknown the russian athletes will hold training sessions to try and encourage more people to get involved with sport it doesn't promise belts or silverware of course simply exercise and a good day out the cross kids program is used by police academies special military units champion martial artists and thousands of other swirled white for the most until i've been training my whole life and you can get repetitive but with cross fit i can change my way of exercising easily or this technique is designed for

everyone regardless of experience if you combine all different aspects we hear all plan to get the strong brand training alongside famous champions is a great of a new unity not only from a sporting arena to you but also behaving yourself the owner of the tools i'm feeling like months and respecting your training is a good job as a true champion always does that concern you about our team. and funny to a guinness world record story with a twist so please don't try this one at home are you watching the aptly named tightly focused sporting champions extravaganza high selling appliances ready made their way into the history books but this one day jonathan mcfarlane frying a washing machine for natives with the light in them to want to challenge that record plunging from the letting me to barry into just thirteen me centimeters of water is something that in fifty year old karen taylor a place among the great promise fallen wasn't done tossing things even is home to a life human being some four point eight seven mates is not surprisingly. that was

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