no matter whether it's a reminder of the top stories we behold his first post gadhafi lections amid unrest in a country still being torn apart by chaos and tribal tensions. the deadline for joining us on his extradition from the u.k. to sweden expires on saturday but the whistleblower remains of the sanctuary of ecuador's embassy awaiting a decision on his asylum plea. as the u.s. and its allies call for un resolution to allow military intervention against the syrian government we'll look at the striking pattern of nato tactics and foreign civil conflicts. all next on our team were discussed in a tory is one tunnel prison camp with british lawyer and university professor philip sands.

today i'm joined by philip sands professor international or university college london and author of torture team and investigation into what's going on behind the closed doors of kuantan them obey mr fans thanks for speaking to r.t. so what torture techniques are interrogation techniques of actually being used at one time i well it's pretty well established now. what emerged they adopted in the autumn of two thousand and two in the u.s. department of defense a series of eighteen techniques of interrogation arranged in three groups and the first group was. shouting and screaming. the second group upped the ante so to speak and included sleep deprivation the use of dogs to induce fear. and then category three the worst of all included waterboarding and the use

of water to induce misperceptions of suffocation that document emerged after the abu ghraib images emerged and i was interested to find out how a country which has turned its back against torture could have moved to adopt these techniques of interrogation so i began. roots of two thousand and five to begin to look more closely through a series of interviews of course united states on what had happened and what had been done by the bistro tional was to spin a story which effectively said it started down at guantanamo there were a group of individuals down at one time over and it did then work its way up the system what i stablish was that that's not accurate what had happened was that it had started at the top and then worked its way down with significant pressure from the pentagon in particular people around the white house so the tale was very different from the one which the administration had spun how easy was it to uncover

that truth i. began by knowing that i had to speak to people who had not previously spoken down at guantanamo and i focused on the lawyers and i began to approach a number of lawyers and once i had found one lawyer who was willing to speak with me who was a staff judge advocate down at guantanamo who was involved at the time back in two thousand and two once she had given me an account of what had happened i could then go to the next person and say well publicly it says this but i've now been told by this person who worked underneath you that this is in fact what happened would you care to comment on it and the door could then begin to open and what are the implications of your findings meaning you are giving a book that some of these techniques equate to war crimes that well i mean i focused on the interrogation of one individual a detainee number sixty three alleged to be the twentieth. september eleventh

hijacker. mohamed al khatami the saudi national and i focused in particular on what had happened to him in the period november two thousand and two to january two thousand and three i reached the conclusion without any real difficulty that he had been subject to techniques that amount to torture torture is an international crime whether called a crime against humanity or a war crime it's prohibited under international more the united states a party to an international convention that outlaws it and the bottom line of it is if you engage in torture as a state you are responsible and you are responsible to do a number of things and one of the things you have to do is you have to investigate and you have to investigate what happened and that has never fully occurred. even the administration of president obama has if you like turned its back on the possibility of a proper investigation to ascertain who authorized what when precisely

wasn't a few bad eggs it was people right up the top and. in fact the namely where president bush ultimately said he signed off on waterboarding and the that that happened in the summer of two thousand and two we now know it's pretty well established by a group of individuals with the president at the top don rumsfeld. colonies rice was involved in the process and various lawyers you know in the national security council and in the department of justice who signed off on waterboarding approved waterboarding gave their support to waterboarding and that to me was shocking so what i want to know was how could in particular lawyers who'd been to the finest law school in the world you know to harvard to do you george carlin terrific law schools how had they got themselves into a state that they were willing to sign off on techniques that amounted to them or their answer i think there was a sense of intense pressure that the united states was under an unparalleled i

don't think that's a justification or an excuse or a reason but there was a tremendous sense of pressure coupled with the fact that a number of the lawyers involved at very senior level had no real background in the subject of international or the protection of the right individual and were very ideological in their approach basically they saw their function as lawyers not as being to give independent legal advise but to give the president the tools to do what he want to do that's not the function of a lawyer in any society in any democratic society but surely waterboarding rings alarm bells with any lawyer it should have rung alarm bells and it did ring alarm bells in many parts what i established was that two of the major organs of government in united states were cut out of the process the military the upper echelons of the military were cut out of the process by don rumsfeld general

counsel jim haynes. and the state department was cut out of the process and the lawyers at the state department and the lawyers in the department of defense the military lawyers the career military lawyers know better than anyone that it's in the united states' interest not to engage in this kind of activity so they were caught over the process. and instead you got a group of ideologues brought in to give the president the tools to do what he wanted to do irrespective of whether there was a reasonable argument it was all for naught which individual moment and the investigation would you say shocking most when i was speaking with the folks who were down at guantanamo i discovered and my book actually broke the story that one of the influence that was in the autumn of two thousand and two was a television program called twenty four which is a t.v. program about the use of torture which promotes the idea really that torture works it produces results it's

a sensible way to proceed and one of the people that are interviewed on beaver confirmed to me actually unexpectedly because i hadn't really asked a question. she just said that twenty four was a big influence and it created an environment and so you began to see that. the connection between popular cultural t.v. programs and what people do that was shocking so is there any chance those responsible for what went on at guantanamo bay well actually be held to account there's already some degree of accountability i mean there's a group who are known as the bush six the six main lawyers at the top of the bush administration the former attorney general alberto gonzales the former department defense lawyer jim haynes some of the public justice lawyers john yoo jay bybee it's very difficult to know set foot outside the united states now there's every possibility that they could be subject to questioning if they were to set foot outside the united states and there's some degree of accountability but my position

is this is a breach of law this is potentially a crime and you need a criminal investigation and that has not happened and there's no indication that it will but what about former president bush is there a chance he could actually be charged with war crimes i mean president bush has rather brazenly given the series of interviews in which you know he says waterboarding is right why did i do it again dick cheney said the same thing and has taken responsibility for it and that's had certain consequences in the sense that some of his international travel has been limited he was due to go last year to switzerland that didn't happen he said because there were questions there can be protests when he's gone to canada. who knows what will happen over time you know one of the things that i was involved with many years ago was the case of pinochet . that was of course different time a different scale but it took twenty five years for the wheels of justice to sort

of creak into motion and one day visiting london he was arrested and so these things take time you don't know when these things are going to produce results or what's going to happen and you know hangs question of responsibility hangs in the hearing on the other. matters now saif gadhafi trial libya's recently announced that the trial will go ahead in libya under their laws but given what happened to his father surely there are concerns over libya's ability to actually hold a fair trial i mean i think there are concerns about. liberation of a country which over the past four decades has come to be associated with the high standards of criminal justice so i think it's reasonable to conclude that there are problems. he has been indicted internationally i think there are good arguments on trying him in libya or trying him at the international criminal court but if he's tried in libya the proceedings have to meet minimum international standards that

can be done in a variety of ways but you can't have summary justice but since the arrest warrant was actually issued by the international criminal court then surely there isn't any actual legal framework for libya to hold the trial international criminal court works on a basis of a principle called complementarity. the i.c.c. the international court in the hague steps in if justice is not done locally so if justice is not done locally there been there has to be an actual trial the libyans can demonstrate to the international criminal court that they can meet minimum international and as they're free to try domestically but i think they're going to have to show to the international criminal court judges that they meet those international standards and i suspect saif gadhafi himself would be rather happy of being tried in the hague where he knows he's going to get in a right and of course he's not going to get death penalty you've also written extensively about the iraq war the legal issues surrounding that now do you see any similarities between the run up to what happened then and what's happening now in

the standoff between iran and the west iraq went very wrong i think we know it went very wrong and there are very few people in this country in the united kingdom who now really want to stand up for iraq on policy grounds and. even fuel on legal grounds i focused on it as a legal matter but not in my view authorized by the security council he did not meet international legal requirements and it was therefore i'm in the legal. war but i think lessons have been learnt from that experience we saw some of that in relation to libya we saw that the security council did adopt a resolution russia and china did not return a resolution permitting some use of force question as to whether they exceeded the mandate. but there was a security council resolution there. is working its way through the security council. who knows which way it will but i suspect the

lesson of iraq is such that it will be very difficult to imagine the kind of coordinated military response with a large number of countries involved a lot iraq in the case of iran in the absence of proper security council authorization for that sounds thank you thank you very much. little bit. of both of those. little. girl's mother little funny little. goodspeed. her.

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we want to present. something else. maybe hold this first post gadhafi elections amid unrest in a country still being torn apart by chaos and tribal tensions. the deadline for joined us on his extradition from the u.k. to sweden expires saturday but the whistleblower remains in the sanctuary of a majority am busy awaiting a decision on his asylum cleek. as the u.s. and its allies call for a u.n. resolution to allow military intervention against the syrian government we'll look at the striking pattern of beirut tactics and foreign civil conflicts. but it's a busy day of sports with play going on there wimbledon tennis championships and his god the latest on more.

hello again thanks for joining me and these are the headlines no pressure and the mary looks forward to his wimbledon showdown with roger federer in the story when i was you know will free to tsonga past five star ambitions arena williams aims for a fifth wimbledon title as she prepares to take on i guess a good advance get in today's women's final. antero tiger woods misfires in west virginia to miss the cut for noise time on the p.g.a. tour. stop there with the tennis for andy murray admits facing roger federer in sunday's final at wimbledon will be a huge challenge mary became the first briton seventy four years to reach the final after beating french media over three to tsonga in four sets the local favorite got off to a flyer taking the first set six three in the second six four however it's a song that then started hitting freely in the third and got a step back but after that it was pleasing with murray eventually coming through seven five so federer next to the world number four he was still after his first

grand slam title he's up against one of the best ever grass court. she groucho's. probably not expected to win the much but won. you know for the fourth. quarter year over the past. turned years or so. it's been been incredible so you know you know the pressure you know that i would be feeling of against somebody else i guess would be different from it once a good moment you know even in the in the last. still proud of what i did you know even if i did some mistake and i was not good in return. this much you know i would say ok. but i want.

i did my best and maybe next time you know and i know the chance and then maybe i would go through. well fed rugby world number one and defending champion novak djokovic in four sets the victory keeps the swiss on course for a record equalling seventh win more than title pete sampras the only man to have achieved that number say far better would also go on top of the world rankings if you should win some base final. over sort of play pool so. you go nowhere but still up it's always nice being someone like no because the more so well here last year and the last couple of years and we've never played on grass it was obvious the big occasion. matches only help my confidence i hope i can use them for the fines so his match on sunday and today serina williams is aiming for her fifth wimbledon title she's up against the sea take nice get advanced he was hoping to

become poland's first ever grand slam winner. but i think i have shown why he's one of the main contenders for the men's hundred meters at this month's olympics the american winning the diamond league meeting in paris the line up was missing jamaican gio are you saying bolt and your home plate the two fastest man in the world this year big eight got a confidence boosting we normally last getting the better set of american justin gatlin definition a time of nine point nine nine seconds france's christophe lemaitre hung on for third. the marshes men's basketball team stay in the hunt for a place at the london games they beat angola eighty points to sixty five in a qualifying tournament in venezuela. as a top scorer was the top scorer for us there with eighteen points while alexander called and added seventeen that puts russia in the semifinals of the event where they must beat nigeria in order to secure a place at the olympics the african nation got a shock when i was greece eighty points seventy nine. thousand volunteers for the

games have arrived at london's heathrow airport some of the men and women here responsible for meeting greeting and transporting athletes others will be helping out behind the scenes to make the viewing experience hopefully pleasurable for one protocol one for the spectators seventy thousand people from the u.k. and abroad age from eighteen all the way up to eighty will make up the volunteer corps. now after peter sagal one stage six the tour de france now enters the mountains and some big name riders will be looking to crawl back time after being caught up in a huge pileup yesterday there were several car crashes the worst coming with just under twenty five kilometers to go frank schleck a contender for the yellow jersey among those ending up in a ditch fury tell you when a rider his year will also took a battering you can see his cut leg their last time in the general classification and will be looking to make that up in the mountains around peter sargon avoided because on each and had the power to cross the finish line first easing green in

swings out on the left of your screen here is the back in now has a hat trick and stage wins on his debut tour de france switzerland fabien country laura still has the oval really does yellow jersey but could lose that on today stage seven which has a top finish. well some big names have also suffered on the fairways tiger woods and phil mickelson both missing the cut at the greenbrier classic in west virginia would seem to have found form after victory at the congressional last week. but after his only round of seventy one he had a sixty nine on friday amassed saw him missed the cut by a single stroke phil mickelson goes home early while u.s. open winner. is the man to catch he came in with a four and of passed sixty six and that gives him a one shot lead at the halfway stage from john from bird although several players have still to finish their second round after a stop play. on the weather hasn't been much better the french open storms delayed

that for just over an hour but it couldn't hold myself cm's charge of the leaderboard a german hit a hit a second successive sixty eight and gives him a one shot lead i was sweden's alexander noren at the halfway stage. very happy or think we had like four seasons. was not as well as ireland was a lot warmer so we deserve the rain to go over to old sometimes it was not. quite up to call them just where there were and seventeen and all that but still we. call this. kept on playing mostly after that and hold the pots as well they are on the look but we're. quite happy. this seems to be bad weather everywhere at the moment the british grand prix at silverstone is also getting lashed by the rain and it's mclaren's lewis hamilton who's fairing best in the wet he topped the time she joined friday's practice just a tenth of

a second faster though. yeah she wore rain is forecast for today's final practice session and qualifying. and is horner's down even rosie who is quicker than anyone else at the gym most a g.p. the spaniard clocking the best time in friday's practice their sachsenring circuit just under a tenth of a second quicker than a local favorite steph and brad all. now another used rush's world champion kickboxer to seek off has announced a rematch with rival mike some b.d.'s the title back will take place later in the year in the meantime the thirty two year old has been giving a few tips on how to keep fit and side the ring off as the story. is fast becoming one of the best boxers the sport has to offer the must go i made headlines last year by defeating two words i'll bet. it is he now holds six different titles including the prestigious q one w five world

championship belt and now has a go if he's preparing for each with a man whose job he broke my. it was a great bow with zambia to seoul for those who enjoyed it i have some good news the story continues and will have another go either in october or december but we're both really looking forward to the fight i'm as motivated as i ever was when you mention my meanwhile has been working with the social projects which kicked off in moscow's famed gorky park last week were known to russian athletes will hold training sessions to try and encourage more people to get involved with sport it doesn't promise belts or silverware of course simply exercise and a good day out the cross kids program is used by police academies special military units champion martial artists and thousands of father swirled white for the most

until i've been training my whole life and it can get repetitive but with cross fit i can change my way of exercising easily this technique is designed for everyone regardless of experience you can combine all different aspects of three year old plan to get the string training alongside famous champions is a great opportunity not only from a sporting according to you but also behaving you still the owner of the tools that you feel in my thoughts and respecting your training is a good job as a true champion always. concerned about our team. i'm funny too i can use world records story with a twist so please don't try the following at home you're watching the aptly named totally bonkers sporting champions extravaganza household appliances wearing make their way into history books but this one day jonathan mcfarlane frying a washing machine for me to sit with you like and to want to challenge that record i'm playing from the eleven me to barry into just thirty centimeters

a forty something this and fifty year old aaron taylor a place among the greats while mcfarlane wasn't done tossing things as he threw a live human being some four point eight seven minutes is not surprisingly that most popular event. well there not for the people that were being thrown i imagine that all the sports i've got the weather so. well. science technology innovation all the latest developments from around russia we've got the future covered.

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