starts on t.v. dot com. live from moscow this is r t and breaking news for you this hour at least eighty seven people killed at thousands of homes that were stated as torrential rains triggered flash flooding in a popular southern russian resort area. libya's first election in half a century gets off to a turbulent start with cheers in the capital contrasting sharply with boycotts and attacks across the country. and the deadline set for julian assange is extradition to sweden expires on saturday the whistleblower remains in the safety of ecuador's london embassy still waiting for an answer to his asylum plea. all right next year in a dark secrets of america's most infamous prison camp as we talk to

a british lawyer who's been at the heart of some of the worst cases of abuse we're all of course talking about one ton of prison the whole the discussion now here on our team. today i'm joined by philip sounds professor international law at university college london and author of torture team an investigation into what's going on behind the closed doors of kuantan the mowbray mr sands thanks for speaking to r.t. so what torture techniques are interrogation techniques of actually being used at one time in my well it's pretty well established now. what emerged they adopted in the autumn of two thousand and two in the u.s. department of defense a series of eighteen techniques of interrogation arranged in three groups and the first group was. shouting and screaming. the second group

upped the ante so to speak and included sleep deprivation the use of dogs to induce fear. and then category three the worst of all included waterboarding and the use of water to induce misperceptions of suffocation that document emerged after the abu ghraib images emerged and i was interested to find out how a country which has turned its back against torture could have moved to adopt these techniques of interrogation so i began. rinser two thousand and five to begin to look more closely through a series of interviews of course united states on what had happened and what had been done by the ministration it was to spin a story which effectively said it started down at guantanamo there were a group of individuals down or in town imo and it did then work its way up the system what i stablish was that it's not accurate what had happened was that it had

started the top and then worked its way down with significant pressure from the pentagon in particular people around the white house so the tone was very different from the one which the administration had spahn how easy was it to uncover that truth i began by knowing that i had to speak to people who had not previously spoken down at guantanamo and i focused on the lawyers and i began to approach a number of lawyers and once i had found one lawyer who was willing to speak with me who was a staff judge advocate at one time who was involved at the time back in two thousand and two once she had given me an account of what had happened i could then go to the next person and say well publicly it says this but i've now been told by this person who works underneath you that this is in fact what happened would you care to comment on it and to do. or could then begin to open and what are the

implications of your findings meaning you are doing a book that some of these techniques equate to war crimes that well i mean i focused on the interrogation of one individual a detained number sixty three alleged to be the twentieth. september eleventh hijacker. mohamed al khatami the saudi national and i focused in particular on what had happened to him in the period november two thousand and two to january two thousand and three i reached the conclusion without any real difficulty that he had been subject to techniques that amount to torture torture is an international crime whether called a crime against humanity or a war crime it's prohibited under international more the united states a party to an international convention that outlaws it and the bottom line of it is if you engage in torture as a state you are responsible and you are responsible to do a number of things and one of the things you have to do is you have to investigate and you have to investigate what happened and that has never fully occurred. even

the administration of president obama has if you like turned its back on the possibility of a proper investigation to ascertain who authorized what when precisely it wasn't a few bad eggs it was people right up the top and in fact the namely where president bush ultimately said he signed off on waterboarding and the that that happened in the summer of two thousand and two we now know it's pretty well established by a group of individuals with the president at the top don rumsfeld. economies arise was involved in the process and various lawyers you know in the national security council and in the department of justice who signed off on waterboarding approved waterboarding gave their support to waterboarding and that to me was shocking so what i want to know was how could in particular lawyers who'd been to the finest

law school in the world you know to harvard to do you george carlin terrific law schools how had they got themselves into a state that they were willing to sign off on techniques that amounted to more their answer i think there was a sense of intense pressure that the united states was under an unparalleled her i don't think that's a justification or an excuse or a reason but there was a tremendous sense of pressure coupled with the fact that a number of the lawyers involved at very senior level had no real background in the subject of international or the protection of the right individual and were very ideological in their approach basically they saw their function as lawyers not as being to give independent legal advice but to give the president the tools to do what he want to do that's not the function of a lawyer in any society in any democratic society but surely waterboarding rings alarm bells with any lawyer it should have rung alarm bells and it did ring alarm

bells in many parts what i established was that two of the major organs of government in the united states were kept out of the process the military the upper echelons of the military were cut out of the process by don rumsfeld and general counsel jim haynes. and the state department was cut out of the process and the lawyers at the state department and the lawyers and the department of defense the military lawyers the career military lawyers know better than anyone that it's in the united states' interest not to engage in this kind of activity so they were caught over the process. and instead you got a group of ideologues brought in to give the president the tools to do what he wanted to do their respective of whether there was a reasonable argument that was all for them not which individual moment and the investigation would you say shocking most when i was speaking with the folks who were down at guantanamo i discovered and my book actually broke the story that

one of the influence that was in the autumn of two thousand and two was a television program called twenty four which is a t.v. program about the use of torture which promotes the idea really that torture works it produces results it's a sensible way to proceed and one of the people that are interviewed on beaver confirmed to me actually unexpectedly because i hadn't really asked a question. she just said that twenty four was a big influence and it created an environment and so you began to see that. the connection between popular cultural t.v. programs and what people do that was shocking so is there any chance those responsible for what went on at guantanamo bay well actually be held to account there's already some degree of accountability i mean there's a group who are known as the bush six the six main lawyers at the top of the bush administration the former attorney general alberto gonzales the former department

defense lawyer jim haynes some of the public justice lawyers john you jay bybee it's very difficult to know set foot outside the united states now there's every possibility that they could be subject to questioning if they were to set foot outside the united states and there's some degree of accountability but my position is this is a breach of law this is potentially a crime and you need a criminal investigation and that has not happened and there's no indication that it will but what about former president bush is there a chance he could actually be charged with war crimes i mean president bush has rather brazenly given the series of interviews in which you know he says waterboarding is right why did i do it again dick cheney said the same thing and has taken responsibility for it and that's had certain consequences in the sense that some of his international travel has been limited he was due to go last year to switzerland that didn't happen he said because there were questions there's been

big protests when he's gone to canada. who knows what will happen over time you know one of the things that i was involved with many years ago was the case of pinochet. that was of course different time a different scale but it took twenty five years for the wheels of justice to sort of creak into motion and one day visiting london he was arrested and so these things take time you don't know when these things are going to produce results what's going to happen and you know hangs a question of responsibility hangs in the hearing on the other. matters now saif gadhafi trial libya's recently announced that the trial will go ahead in libya under their laws but given what happened to his father surely there are concerns over libya's ability to actually hold a fair trial i mean i think there are concerns about. liberation of a country which over the past four decades has come to be associated with the high standards of criminal justice so i think it's reasonable to conclude that there are

problems saif gadhafi has been indicted internationally i think there are good arguments on trying him in libya or trying him at the international criminal court but if he's tried in libya the proceedings have to meet minimum international standards that can be done in a variety of ways but you can't have summary justice but since the arrest warrant was actually issued by the international criminal court then surely there isn't any actual legal framework for libya to hold the trial international criminal court works on a basis of a principle called complementarity. the i.c.c. the international court in the hague steps in if justice is not done locally so if justice is not done locally they'll build the has to be an international trial the libyans can demonstrate to the international criminal court that they can meet the new mishmash terms as they're free to try domestically but i think they're going to have to show to the international criminal court judges that they meet those

international standards and i suspect saif gadhafi himself would be rather happy of being tried in the hague where he knows he's going to get in a right and of course he's not going to get death penalty you've also written extensively about the iraq war and the legal issues surrounding that now do you see any similarities between the run up to what happened then and what's happening now in the standoff between iran and the west iraq went very wrong i think we know it went very wrong and there are very few people in this country in the united kingdom who now really want to stand up for iraq on policy grounds and. even fewer on legal grounds i focused on it as a legal matter it was not in my view authorized by the security council it did not meet international legal requirements and it was therefore i'm in the eagle. war but i think lessons have been learnt from that experience we saw some of that in relation to libya we saw that the security council did adopt a resolution russia and china did not return

a resolution permitting some use of force question as to whether they exceeded the mandate the backed up but there was a security council resolution there. is working its way through the security council. who knows which way it will but i suspect the lesson of iraq is such that it will be very difficult to imagine the kind of coordinated military response with a large number of countries involved a lot iraq in the case of iran in the absence of proper security council authorization for that sounds thank you thank you very much.

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thanks rory how long welcomed this is sport in our day with me room on cost for a plenty of news up ahead but first to the headlines. going from that's all. over common illness and inform sorry no williams to claim the number one ranking in the world. while ferarri flying most recent winner fernandez loans a prevails in the final practice for the british grand prix at the track dries up at silverstone. and terrible tiger woods missed wires in west virginia it's a mistake for the nine sign on the p.g.a. tour but let's start with tennis because. vaska could become the women's new world number one but to observe that helps fought she needs to overcome four time former champion serena williams in the wimbledon final round bonds can miss the pre-match conference because of a call but the number three seed has already created this street by becoming the first ever pole to reach a grand slam decider and the twenty three year old will rise to

a career high second in the w t a rankings regardless of the outcome of the match while serina is targeting a brace of titles that american his use of late in the doubles final with sister venus later on. and over in the men's game rose etc could also return to the top spot for the first time in over two years if he beats and jim murray in the men's final on sunday better be current world number one and defending champion jockey bitchin four sets the victory also keeps the swiss on course for a record equalling seventh wimbledon crown pete sampras the only man to have achieved that number better is using confidence. to go win the title so i will miss you go anywhere but the still of it's always nice. beating someone like novak was so well here last year and the last couple of years and we've never played on grass it was over said the big occasion. matches only help my confidence i hope

i can use them for the fine while murray admits facing federer it will be a huge challenge mary because first britain in seventy four years to reach the final after beating french michel wilford tsonga in four sets the local favorite got off to a lawyer taking the first set six three and the second six four however some got them started hitting three in the third and got a setback after that it was pretty even with murray eventually coming through seven five federer is next for the world number four was still after he made a major title and knows he's up against one of the best ever grass court players. yeah this is a great show and. you know one you know probably knows to expect to win the match but one that. you know if i play well i'm capable of winning. but i mean if you would he has his record here over the past ten years or so. it's been been incredible so you know you know the pressure you know

that i would be feeling if it was against somebody else i guess it would be different for me twenty good moments you know even in the last you know. i'm proud of what i did you know even if i did some mistake and i was not good every time you know fights and the end of. this month you know and i would say ok i don't. mean i want. i did my best and and maybe next time you know and i know the chance and then maybe i would go through. now in the formula one qualifying is underway for the british grand prix while it was standings leader fernando alonso who dominated the final practice session at silverstone the ferrari man won the race last year and edged a local favorite jenson button on the dry track in practice room on grows john of lotus clocked third fastest time with two time rating champion sebastian vettel in

fourth rushes vitaly petrov who rides for cater and finished in disappointing twenty eighth place while a long though is the only driver to have taken two victories in eight races so far this season and that's why former champion is twenty points clear of mark webber at that's all. while qualifying is also on for the german grand prix as moto g.p. champion and joint standings leader katie's stoner is aiming for his fourth pole position of the season co-leader jorge lorenzo is also out to prove points the spaniard crashed out early in the dutch grand prix last week however both opted to sit out the final three practice on saturday morning after it was hit by heavy rain . tyson gay has shown why he is one of the main contenders for the men's one hundred meters at this month's lympics american winning the diamond league meeting in paris the line up was missing jamaican duel with same bowls and yohan blake the two fastest men in the world this year but gave god a confidence boosting win nonetheless getting the better of fellow american justin

gatlin it's a finish in a time of nine point nine nine seconds france's christophe lemaitre hung on for third. meanwhile are russia's men's basketball team stay in the hunt for a place at the london games they beat angola eighty sixty five in a qualifying tournaments in venezuela bizarrely for example or for russia with eighteen points so when putting russia in the semifinals of the events where they must be to nigeria in order to secure a place at the olympics the african nations posted a shock win over greece eighty seven. now with less than three weeks left before the start of those london. pics preparations are in full swing for the showpiece events that's including the main gate wait to the games heathrow airport well the first thousand volunteers for the games have arrived at heathrow some of the men and women here responsible for meeting greeting and transporting athletes authors will be helping out behind the scenes to make the olympic viewing experience

hopefully pleasurable one for spectators seventy thousand people from the u.k. and the brolga age from eighteen all the way up to eighty will make up the volunteer corps. and in golf a couple of big names have suffered on the fairways in the west virginia tiger woods and phil mickelson both missing the cuts at the greenbrier classic would seem to have found form after victory at the congressional last weekend's but after his opening round of seventy one he hit sixty nine on friday and that saw him missed the cut by a single stroke phil mickelson also goes home early while the u.s. open winner webb simpson is the man to catch he came in with four under poor six to six and that gives him a one shot lead at halfway stage from jonathan bird although several players have still to finish their second round after stops play. rushes a world champion kickboxer but to hasek all has announced a rematch with a rival my exam be these the thirty two year old will once again defend his belt

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for all her story with a twist now please don't try what you're about to see at home you are watching the appian main tell it in the bunker sporting champions extravaganza household appliances are rarely make their way into history books but this one did jonathan mcfarlane throwing a washing machine four meters with you likely to even want to challenge that record lunging from an eleven meter barrier in suggest their defense meters of water is something that's earned fifty year old aaron taylor a place among the greats while mcfarland wasn't done tossing things either as he threw a live human being some four point eighty. seven meters not surprisingly that was the most popular event. hope you enjoyed that i certainly did but i will be back with another obviates in just a few hours meanwhile our youtube channel is available to you at any time at art's

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