tv [untitled] July 9, 2012 12:30am-1:00am EDT
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welcome back you're watching r t live from moscow these are the top stories day of mourning in russia for more than one hundred seventy people who died after flash floods hit cross the dark it's the worst natural disaster in the southern resort region has seen. syria's leader accuses the u.s. of fueling deadly violence in the country by partnering with rebels that is army holds a military exercise in the town where palin attacked from the outside. and may be in the liberals lead in the country's first nationwide election and half
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a century according to unofficial results from saturday's poll that was marred by gunfire and violence. now we talk with a former national security agency executive in the u.s. a sec refines his career to blow the whistle on the wrongdoings inside the n.s.a. . my guest today is thomas andrews drake he was a senior executive of america's biggest intelligence agency at the beginning of the two thousands he was an expert on electronic eavesdropping someone with a top secret security clearance then mr drake essentially sekret feist his career to blow the whistle on his agency's wrongdoings as he saw them he was charged under the espionage act but only last year the charges were dropped this drake thank you very much for coming thanks for having me tell me about the program that you challenge the working with the national security agency the surveillance program
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what was its potential harm as you saw it there was the very large flagship program called trailblazer that was designed to catapult n.s.a. into the twenty first century to deal with the vast amounts of data being generated from the digital age given the massive fraud and abuse that and it n.s.a. had created with the trial was a program as well as a super secret surveillance program they completely violated the constitution and the fourth amendment and in particular in particular the statute called the foreign intelligence surveillance act which was the first commandment n.s.a. you did not violate americans privacy without a warrant under that statute in fact if you did they were criminal penalties for doing so and i found this out to my horror and and shock shortly after nine eleven . the n.s.a. had entered into a secret agreement with the white house in which n.s.a. would become the executive agent for this sort of secret surveillance program on
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the front end was designed to deal with the threat of the terrorist threat and that was for understandable but what it did is that actually essentially turned the united states into just a collection platform so you know vast reams of data were increasingly being collected or through other entities be made available to n.s.a. for analysis there's a lot of debate about this proposed legislation i'm sure you heard about it the system which will in the name of national security would allow web service providers to funnel private information of their users to the authorities to government agencies aren't they already doing that i mean many argue that providers you know google facebook and other companies they they need the legislation to protect themselves from being liable for what they're already doing and that's why those companies who lobby for the bill well that's i believe that's part of it the other part of it is the government just wants even more access to even more data
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and so i mean under the patriot act and section two fifteen there is a secret executive interpretation of that which essentially grants the government pretty much on federal access to subscriber information that's held by those companies. since that would take out and there's other variants of that would take that to the next level you know under under the label or the rubric of you know cyber threats and to provide so cyber security the government wants even more invasive access almost persistent access to networks that are not normally available to the public i understand the technology is so advanced now that it is probably so very tempting for intelligence agencies to siphon all that they get but what is the goal is it total thirty and i believe if you take what has been happening since in time there are post nine. eleven security world what you're seeing is the establishment of a server surveillance society years your senior stablish of
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a surveillance network and i keeps telling people people realize the extent to which we're already surveilled in many many different ways the extent to which vast amounts of our own transactional data in all forms all electronic forms and e-mails and your tweets and bank records everything else are all subject for or sauce suspect ok in terms of terms of of surveillance it raises the specter of kind of the rise of soft tyranny it raises the specter of you're automatically suspicious until you prove that you're not it raises the specter of a universal quality universal wiretap a persistent universal wiretap on every single person or if it not they can create one because what happens if they don't like you what happens you speak ill will against a government what happens if you say something they consider disloyal i mean that's not the country that i took an oath to defend four times in my government career
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and you also have the fear element fear in itself is control and what people will do when they're fearful is they were they will begin to censor themselves so much of what's happening now particular my case it sent it extraordinarily chilling message that anybody and i was a senior executive the government had a very high position and i say. it sends that extraordinarily chilling message that if you speak out if you speak up we're going to hammer you and we're going to hammer you hard because look what we did to mr drake nash security has effectively become the state religion you don't question it and if you question it then your loyalty is questioned i want to ask you about julian assange he's we can make cables expose the u.s. complicity in torture and other crimes how angry you think washington is that julian assange which i think they're extremely angry at the fact that there's apparently based on press reporting you know there's a secret grand jury there maybe even a secret indictment they want to get him and they want to put him away i mean there
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are those in this country very high levels of call for the death penalty. and sweden does not promise a they can't make a guarantee that if they did bring him back to sweep for questioning he would be extradited to the united states and believe me if the united states got its hands on him they're going to do everything they could to put him away as long as they can or worse this is a very long reach and far as is similar to what i went through i mean they it was a multi-year multi-million dollar criminal and nasty investigation that i got caught up inside of and they spent several years several years in my own particular case trying to figure out how to bring an indictment against me speaking truth to power is very dangerous in today's world power elites. those in charge they don't like dirty linen being aired they don't like the skeletons in the closet being seen. and they not only do they object to it they decide to turn it into criminal activity remember my will so baloney was criminalized by
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my own government. i know i had no protection although ostensibly they couldn't reprise against me retaliate they did but i also find striking is that there is there's basically a smear campaign against journalists too for example a report on civilian deaths in u.s. drone strikes i read a number of articles where u.s. administration officials basically accuse them of helping terrorists and that label terrorist helper it seems that it's becoming a convenient tool to brush off investigative journalism isn't it what it is you go after the messenger and because the last you want to do is deal with the message you're talking about all the activities the secret surveillance the warrantless wiretapping torture rendition drone strikes and a whole host of other measures that i would assert are extra constitutional not to do they violate our own law also violate a number of international laws go after the messenger not the message because the
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debris to actually discuss the message or to address the message becomes very uncomfortable. so essentially what's happened is that law which and we're a nation of laws the if we start to depart which you already have in a very significant moving away from that from being a nation of laws and simply leave it up to policy to substitute we're going down a very slippery slope and in the united states of america everybody's reporting on this feeling by race that the u.s. and its well allegedly developed to spy on iran and then there is the actual cyber weapon the stuxnet which created havoc in iran's nuclear facilities we hear u.s. officials condemn cyber attacks all the time but it turns out that the u.s. government itself is involved in cyber attacks how do you see it well based on what can only be authorized leaks which is an oxymoron coming from within the administration other senior officials they want people to know right believe that's the case i think that somebody is has not been reported actually wanted people to
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know i think some people say oh it's just war makes makes the administration look good you know sort of you know selling their oats and say hey we're we're the man here they want people to know they want to know what the united states is capable of doing it is a it is another form of warfare it is a you know it is a cyber weapon but it's a pandora's box because we're now in kind of uncharted territory as it's virtual war to say it that way it's a virtual conflict i mean the pentagon itself has been on record that if a nation conducts what is allegedly being conducted by this country against other countries using things like stuxnet that that's an act of war but apparently if we're doing it's not considered an act of war it's information operations or cyber operations so that goes it goes under a whole host of other labels to make it something different from what it really is . so where were the lines drawn i want to go back to you becoming a whistleblower you had a well paid job at
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a couple's ishani america's biggest intelligence agency you turned it all down you went to work to an apple store i wonder how do you decide to go for something like that you can't put a price on freedom and i took an oath i mean my oath was to the constitution that took primacy over everything else so what do you do you're faced realising your horror that your own government is an abject violation of the very oath that you took the very constitution that you took an oath to defend support defend against all enemies foreign domestic faithfully executing that law and you're finding out in secret that your own government is in violation of it and then you know that was never necessary you knew that the best of american inventiveness and ingenuity could of not only provide superior intelligence like the thin thread program but would have done so in complete compliance with the fourth amendment and they tossed
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it overboard because they didn't want those controls they didn't want that oversight most people don't stand up to power because power wields a lot of power and power can do you win or make life very difficult but i wasn't just standing up for myself i was standing up for you know the generations that follow me thank you thanks for having me. there are those who desperately need it to survive. the spoken visit and give money to one lookout to follow on goldman the fish out on the suppresses the prize the rights of the two for first new clothes and. those who don't get their share of the
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little day of mourning in russia for more than one hundred seventy people who died after flesh was hit the southern region of krasnodar at the worst natural disaster in the area has seen plenty serious leader accuses the u.s. so fueling deadly violence in a country by partnering with rebels as he's army holds military exercises on how to repel an attack from the outside. leg libya liberals lead in the country's first nationwide election. the century according to an official results from saturday's poll that was marred by gunfire and violence. so they had lines at a sports roger federer is the king of tennis once more after his trial at wimbledon
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and just four under farmers got the latest. hello there thanks for watching the sport here's what is coming up over the next few minutes grass master roger federer of the tandy murray in the wimbledon final to equal pete sampras is record of seven titles at the all england club. but making a mark red bulls webber wins the british grand prix to cut the gap and and along with the top of the formula one standings. and deliver world champions russia book a place in next year's be shocked the world cup. but first roger federer has won a record equalling seven wimbledon title fourteen andy murray's attempt to become the first brit to win the title in seventy six years murray had never won a set in his previous three grand slam finals and put that right on center court
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taking the first against federer six four with some aggressive tennis there but that was as much as he would get federal started to find his rhythm one the next seven five to level the match. all right hole to play in the third set in the pair were tied at three games all but when they returned it was federer who found a new gear under the center call roof winning the next three games to take it two sets to one lead and by the end the swiss was in cruise control seeing at the final set six four murray going wide on match point it's federer's seventh one with an title and his seventeenth grand slam title a tearful murray said he had given it is best while federer returns to the top of the world rankings for the first time in just over two years. and it was there was so much on the line to think of the world number one ranking or the servants and
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seventeen. so i think that's going to actually for a change it's going to take much longer to sort of you know understand what i was able to achieve today and. it was crazy how it all happened in under the circumstances played terrific. points or didn't vote you know. pretty good decisions for them or sports or. comfortable. before them or. prove. well also missing out was russia's you know vesnina archie and pan alley and it pays lost in the mixed doubles fun to my grind and lisa raymond it's the second grand slam final defeat the best in our pace after also missing out on the strain open title. to formula one now where mark webber has clinched his second victory of
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the season after overtaking pole sitter financial along they would just fall apps to go with the british grand prix so long as i lead the way for the majority of the race but harare spaniard will have to make do with the runner up spot as the twice former champion crossed the finish line three seconds behind webber however long as those still tops the driver standings is the astrarium winner at the gap to just thirteen point spread his red teammate and reigning champion sebastian vettel was third fastest on the dry silverstone track with another ferrari man felipe massa in fourth and along only two drivers to have won more than one race and nine races so far in this unpredictable season. never gave up kept pushing. and didn't really work out. the end which you know is very very close to him so we'll be capitalizing very special big three for the team just down the road of local team and the guys. who got
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a bill for them. and also foreknow again and i. here in the u.k. . where there was a dramatic finish to the german ground pray as reigning moto g.p. champion k.c. stone it crashed out on the last lap leaving his honda teammate dani pedrosa free to claim his first win of the season third straight in germany your girlfriends are with the scranton second place and the spaniard moves into the right lead in the overall standings he is fourteen points clear of stoner dropping to six point. zero zero from italy completed the podium on the day. he knew the end is going to be for the last lap. i had the braking so i was confident for the last lap but anyway you never know sure i was pushing my best in finally get there when the. staying on two wheels french cyclist the volcano has taken his maiden stage victory in
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a major race there as the twenty two year old broke away from the big guns to win the eighth stage of the tour de france pre-race favorite bradley wiggins retains the jersey after maintaining his ten second lead over defending champion condell evans russia's denis menchov also finished in the palace and just a fourth overall behind him chan's in the early. ninety's he had to show has been confirmed as the new manager of the france football team he takes over from rome blong who stepped down after a disappointing euro two thousand and twelve seans guided marsay to the french league one title last season and won three successively cups with the club the forty three year old also won the world cup as a player in one nine hundred ninety eight as well as the european championship trophy in two thousand jumps his first game in charge will be against south american champions europe wide an august fifteenth. meanwhile moscow has hosted the european qualify for the twenty thirteen soccer world cup there was good and bad news for the current title holders russia who managed to book their place in the
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finals but. also when the high level with law is troubling the danya with the euro twenty twelve still a painful memory for russian football fans here is il really the country's biggest soccer nation will team a current world cup holders and concert favorites at any event the european selection for the twenty thirteen world cup was held in the russian capital with only the top four out of twenty four teams privileged to represent the continent in tight in next year. russia fulfilled their task with confidence and made it to the final to take on spain however it was also important for the home side to win the event in front of the home crowd with spain feeling no pressure facing the world number one team it was the visitors who opened the scoring four minutes in skipper i mean i'm really needing to make it one nil. over the russians were quick to turn things upside down two goals by you and elul of putting the hosts ahead by the
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first intermission two one but it was far from decided in the second leg broke up for beth with three goals in a row each one better than the next. you get a chance keep guest in one more goal for russia to show the hosts would not give it up that easy although it was spain who proved to be the strongest side of the day claiming victory with a final score of five three i think they are the best team of all. with players some of them my friends. that i lost i love i love them i like the way that they play style the press the power the leg off of points of their game and then. i can do something for us and with evasion play against that obviously we want to play against them always. felt some extra pressure playing in front of our fans maybe that's why we felt to show our best game of anybody we're not trying to find
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any excuses through and it was always packed out on the ball. many thanks to our supporters who would like to apologize to us and welcome them to tahiti to the world cup finals. it was just a selection with no titles of stick and the main thing is that we have qualified for the world cup finals and you know what those are when qualifiers never succeeded the main events this is our beliefs our has it well one russian international. probably claimed victory of his life after proposing marriage to his girlfriend in here yes he replied. r t. and she couldn't say no could she now there's a new winner on golf's p.g.a. tour rookie ted potter jr claiming the greenbrier classic after a playoff porter had been in shocking for missing five cuts in a row prior to this tournament but the twenty eight year old finished his final round strongly and eagle here on the seventeenth was followed by a birdie putt on the eighteenth and that threw him level with fellow american floyd
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kelly so they went into a playoff and on the third extra hole that porter sunk another birdie with his patter for victory. and julies marshall cme has won the french open to end his eight year title track as the thirty one year old carded a final round of four under sixty seven to finish a single shot ahead of the super francesco molinari the italian recovered from a double bogey on the first hole to sink nine birdies and finished the final day seven hundred sixty four bit too little to late is victory for him also means he qualifies for the british open later this month. so that's all the sports i'm back a little later on with more.
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well this is true science technology innovation all the moves developments from around russia we've got the future covered. in the secret laboratory to mccurry was able to build a new most sophisticated robot which on fortunately doesn't give a darn about anything turns mission to teach music creation why it should care about humans and world this is why you should care only on the dog. nearly a billion people in the world are going hungry every day. in the united states even our trash cans are filled with food you just have to go get it all of these
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