don't call me. today and artsy just because they report it doesn't mean it's true american viewers are taking the head and straying away from network news outlets blast the host of the young turks where viewers are returning to to get their daily dose of headlines. plus it's happening in vegas but libertarians sure hope it won't stay there the largest national gathering of freedom loving thinkers is meeting in sin city celebrating innovation and open mindedness will find out what new ideas are coming out of freedom fast. it's thursday july twelfth five pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching our team. oh losing faith in the media americans

confidence in television news has hit a new low that's according to a recent gallup poll these days only twenty one percent of americans have confidence in the news that's a forty six percent drop since one thousand nine hundred three and confidence in newspapers now much better or you can see that it's dropped to twenty five percent that's a twelve percent drop since two thousand so where are people turning to instead it looks like citizen journalists could be getting the mass news networks are run for their money r.t. correspondent arena part in iowa has the story running good a statics round the clock operations a product always being exported america's mainstream news industry generates power and profits but it seems partisan reporting and frequent gaffes may have made many americans turn away from the big broadcasters a recent gallup poll shows an all time low of only twenty percent of the public trusting the news many say this means

citizen journalism is becoming a big game changer and the amazing thing about training citizens to be really good pundits is that they they have a wealth of information that journalists just don't have when you help them connect what they know are exposed to their experience with a big picture. political event it's very powerful on what that journalist and best selling author and i only wolf not only supports citizen journalism she and business partner lisa thomas have built a nonpartisan training ground for it it's called daily klout dot com we're not just teaching people to vent we're training people to write rigorous shapely opinion pieces which are eight hundred words long and also to source their assertions we also teach them how to link what they are exposing are calling for with

a. action steps. daily clout also features a legislative search engine that monitors and explains bills making their way to capitol hill a tool allowing everyday people to hold federal state and corporate leaders accountable when america's fourth estate fails to i think the mainstream media has become about entertainment. and also concerned who holds the purse strings if the mainstream media is controlled by large corporate interests they're going they're beholden to them but this website is independently financed giving tens of thousands of citizens the freedom to report on topics many news networks are accused of suppressing i think one of the best ways you can judge a state of democracy is in how it's new. and i think if you have a situation where the citizens of the country are actually bypassing the mainstream media i think that says a lot of the stage of democracy critics however argue that only properly educated

and experienced journalists should be intrusted with understanding the rigors and ethics involved in news reporting but even then. there is no guarantee the public will receive facts this is a dream court justices have struck down the individual mandate for the unconstitutional the direct blow to the president i would say it's a direct blow to his democratic party the individual mandate has been struck down it has been struck down no it has not. stopped i knew. there was mass media still maintains a stronger and wider reach that citizen journalism but it no longer holds the power to determine what the public is good baby doing or even reporting about very important party new york. and i want to look a bit further into this issue of why americans are losing confidence. in network

news outlets you know when it comes to fair and accurate reporting the journalist tap into sources to help tell the story but what happens when you don't accurately disclose who your sources are well that's exactly what happened when the news outlets reported on obamacare and the lawsuit to stop it they wanted to get the take of a small business owner you know just any run of a mill small business owner and they all happened to find the same guy. because of the increasing health care legislation coming down the line in things like regulatory burdens is really making us it making it that much more difficult for me to make a decision to increase and expand my business without a doubt it's something that we're ready to expand and at this point would all do is either hold off or i'm a higher part time employees and in form of instead of full time employees we've seen increased regulation of the health care we don't know where it stands where it's going to lead to was supposed to help small businesses but it's so narrowly

targeted it's not going to be of any help to my company well as the blog balloon juice first pointed out throughout his various appearances joe all of what's called a small business owner what they didn't tell you was that this man also happens to be a part of the national federation of independent business says it's a right wing pro corporate lobbying group they were also a plaintiffs in the supreme court challenge to obamacare but in all these reports no mention of his lobbying ties so it turns out he's not so random but in fact using the media as a platform to further the lobbying groups interests. we say if you want to interview him that's fine just let the audience know who he is exactly so all this could provide clues as to why americans are losing faith in the fourth estate to talk about this and more to talk more about this decline viewership in the mainstream networks i'm joined now by jan gore he is the host of the young turks who joins me now from our hi there jank so you've kind of seen it all firsthand and

your opinion why are americans losing confidence in television news i mean twenty percent it's a pretty low number now. first of all i was going to say i love that story you guys did on that fake lobbyist guy small business owner all right now why they're losing faith in news because the news sucks they're fake no one believes them and they're right so places like c.n.n. will have their fake balance as they will romney said this and obama said all right who cares what are they what's the truth i don't need you to be there i need you to tell me what the facts are but they're deathly afraid of telling the american audience what the facts are because it might hurt the government they might be called biased by one side or another so people are turning out because they're saying well obviously these guys aren't real and they're not going to be straight

but i actually took to the streets of washington d.c. to ask viewers why exactly they are turning out here's a look oh well folks have to say i feel like it's a lot of misinformation and they're just trying to and things like tom cruise. is in the news. do you believe everything you see on the news for the most part it's factual i think it's just a matter of how much time do you have to go and give the story immediate supposed to be the fourth estate kind of a watchdog of sorts do you think that maybe they're abandoning that responsibility . i think they're more working. with their goals in mind instead of just being like here the public hears the facts figure it out they've got an agenda and they're using their own agenda because they want days it's biased one of the other you can't get an objective report anywhere which on you go to use going to swing one end or the other channel you're just listening to another and if you're going to tell the truth tell what you want everybody to know what everybody's doing wrong just don't decide to pick on one group of people that

don't make it if not t.v. where do you turn to for the news instead. on mine definitely where do you go to instead i go to the web and then look for the news that i need to find. those funny done when i was out there trying to talk to people trying to ask them why they're tuning out i didn't run into one person that said yes i'm completely happy with the media the way that it is today so i mean it is seems like people are getting fed up . to give their. we'll i lost you for a second but but i did see the package and let me just say the one thing i think they're absolutely right about is that they already read it you know my my dad also says that now that just goes to unfortunately good news on television being laid by the nature of our technology these days you know my dad used to watch prime time news every single night i noticed that he had been doing that for

a long time i said why i said why do i need brian williams it's on me something i read three hours ago so that's a huge problem for television news and then the other problem is they don't point out obvious facts like if we asked americans hey do you think there's too much influence of money in politics eighty four percent say yes the overwhelming majority now how many times do you see in the mainstream news where they say oh these politicians they just do whatever their campaign contributors tell him to do that's what you four percent of americans believe and that is what the reality is that people are right how often do they say it on the news almost never i do you know it was interesting you had mentioned your father there and there was there was once upon a time where people did trust in the news but we're seeing we saw the graph there it's kind of declining gradually what is it about the news today. is it about the climate or the pressure are what is it today that is causing people to to lose confidence in the news honestly the news has been systematically bought and it's

very logical if you think about it who pays for the news well that her ties are to do so now do you think they're going to do incredibly hard hitting on corporations and the things they're doing wrong that's the hand that feeds them you want to buy that and then the corporations have also systematically bought our government through campaign contributions ninety three percent of the time in congressional races the guy with more money wins so it doesn't matter if you're a democrat or republican liberal or conservative doesn't matter what your point of view is on the issues the only thing that matters is who's got more money now the corporations are giving that money and they're buying the politicians and they've also bought. all the advertising has paid for the news you think the news is going to report to you that the corporations have bought our government of course they're not going to report that so as say it seems like they're the media's first loyalty is to advertisers instead of their viewers absolutely and i can tell you from my time in the mainstream media i mean there's a lot of things that they freaked out about the thing they forgot about the most is

if you touch the advertisers and then that then red flags wave everywhere sounds like there's a little bit of a conflict of interest there and you know this gallup poll was actually taken before the whole health care debacle and the major networks came out and actually broke the wrong story so could we expect these numbers to actually be much lower you know i hear you on that i actually didn't think it was that big a deal to be honest i know i'm in the minority here that c.n.n. and fox news got it wrong and it's they're probably jumpy because they're so used to online news kicking their ass and beating them to the story that they'll get we we got it we got to rewrite the first that is go on to right away we're going to be like for the birds so but you know overall it's a honestly if you ask me a minor mistake i think the structural problems the news where they don't actually report the real motivations of our government is a much much bigger deal so yes because of image problems it will erode people's

view of news a little bit more t.v. news at least but but i think that that's the wrong element that we're talking about fair enough there so you had my social media when i was out there they say oh a lot of them are turning to social media and to these online outlets do you think people are now finding these sources to be more trustworthy. well i have to confess with audience that i'm enormously biased. we have a. show that happens to be the top news show in the world and here disclosing now you're putting it out there like that you know the businessman right but look in terms of why we had that success and we have seven hundred fifty million views on you tube alone a million a day etc and i think it's because we're real with the audience we don't use a prompter so that they know that i'm having a conversation with them it's not something a producer wrote i'm not reading it like a robot and they know that i'm going to be honest with them and tell them hey look

this democrat is doing something wrong this republican is taking money from that oil company etc so when they see it they go oh my god that sounds true that's why we've got an audience that we did that's why c.n.n. is losing their ratings and t.v. news reducing their ratings and they're coming to online outlets like us and i want to talk more about that small business owner where you know all these outlets were turning to him as the voice of the typical small business owner and he turned out to actually be part of this pro lobbying organization i mean how does that even happen i mean i know you've kind of seen the inner workings of this how does that happen i mean is it intentional is it lazy i mean what is it. it's both it starts out as intentional so there will be lobbying groups who will make such a person vailable to their allies so someone like fox news and fox news knows that he's actually a lobbyist and they are perfectly happy to pretend he's a small business owner there have a symbiotic relationship with the republican party in fact they donate millions of

dollars to the republican party and then they have republican party officials on as spokespeople not just officially in their roles but then they'll pay them like they'll pay sarah palin newt gingrich rick santorum who want up running for president cetera so it starts on purpose as a propaganda campaign and then the other networks because they're lazy will go ok great you know well if he loses a small business owner it must be a small business owner what am i going to do go to find actual small business owner that would take a lot of work so i'll just take their word for it and then it spreads and it spreads and fox news knows this phenomenon that's why they have such a powerful voice here in america because they need the other news networks to amplify their voice for them kind of sounds like it turns into this vicious cycle but it doesn't really seem ethical. it's gross it's horribly on a go that's absolutely right look i've been inside the mainstream machine where i

see the cable stations flipping as we watch so fox news keeps covering the story over and over and over again because they have an agenda to push c.n.n. doesn't have an agenda they don't know what the hell's going on day and they're trying to keep up with what was on lot of i don't know that seem to be a story that's and then every once in all their executives will look at fox news be like well they've been covering them for so long i guess everybody must be talking about it so let's switch over and cover and then when c.n.n. switches over then m s n b c panics and goes oh my god a fox news and c.n.n. are covering it we've got a switchover and then boom wall to wall coverage and that's how our cable news gets hijacked by fox is actually brilliant now i have to say again i'm biased here but i work for current television and that's cable news that is not hijacked by that process by the way one of the reasons this is in its independent so it's not reliant on the same you know mega corporations that they own their ego and i also want to point out this is actually a very good thing for us here at r t another shift where people are turning to the

news these days over in canada r t has risen to be one of the most popular international news networks we now surpassed sky news over there. i mean what do you think that means are people kind of just getting tired of the mainstream and they want something different. so there's another side i think yes it is and i'll tell you why you know i have friends who sometimes travel abroad and when they do and they see other news outlets like b.b.c. becoming like oh my god do you know the rest of the world gets real news because here our media instead of challenging the government which was their original role that's what the press is supposed to do there be supposed be a check on the government they do the exact opposite they cover for the government in every way imaginable that's part of the reason that they despise julian assange but like oh my god michael johns appropriately government secrets that's so embarrassing for us because we're lapdogs and so that's why when people travel

abroad like oh my god look at people criticizing the u.s. government and factual grounds and other governments the syrian government the russian government whoever it might be and i think that you know when you see both side by side for the audience it's an easy decision which when you go with the fake news or the real news jank when i really appreciate you coming on the show that was django there and be sure to watch the young turks on line from three to five pm eastern monday through friday and nightly on current t.v. at seven pm eastern and i should mention that the young turks has a new show the point on the town square which you can find on their you tube channel thanks jack thank you so much. well one area where the mass media has dropped the ball is the libertarian movement freedom fast is underway in las vegas as the events of the year for libertarians thousands are in the city for the event which features freedom loving speakers debates forums and activities here are some

of the issues that are on the agenda wall street on trial the twenty top presidential elections of course the u.s. health care debate and the economic the global economic recovery the occupy wall street movement all topics we cover here in death our. freedom fest it seems to be more than just a protest against big government it comes at a time when many americans think our fundamental freedoms are under attack and i want to put an end to this erosion of liberty to talk about the movement the event and the libertarian movement i was joined by matt welch he is the editor in chief for reason magazine take a look this is a funny kind of crazy. event and a lot of free market libertarian organizations and a lot of financial investment. go to put your money to believe that things are all rode together in a room. and it goes on then the interesting and. now

this event comes at a time where a lot of libertarians and a lot of people think that. certain freedoms are under attack i mean this is after the end i was signed into law we're seeing a number of internet bills pieces of legislation that aim to to crack down on internet privacy and freedoms on the internet maybe talk about the significance of the timing of this event. well they've been having it every year for a while but this noticeable kind of jumps in and activity and then human juice in it here precisely because of how you laid it out i mean what libertarians frequently say and i think that we're right is that yes the two major parties in this country are different in this wouldn't sell themselves differently but once they're in power and exercising power there's a commonality and that commonality is almost always opposite in the direction that

libertarians want libertarians want to shrink the size and scope of government in all aspects where allies of ours are and and people who are in power now george w. bush certainly did not increase in size governed by sixty percent of the promise certainly have not and their ability to to get into areas drone strikes against american citizens for crying out loud you know once they're in power their supporters forget whatever principle that they had before and they kind of look the other way so libertarians have a pretty consistent critique against that world and so rally together and indeed the climate and i think becoming a more attractive the slow minority message but it's a more attractive message in america where now we have to be like forty percent of americans don't have a natural sense of identity with either the democratic or republican parties so they're out looking for something that's different and i think the ideas behind that are tearing at them maybe more than the party let's say offer that kind of

different way of looking at the world that resonates more strongly than where they're headed when do you think it's fair to say that the libertarian movement as a as a growing movement in the last oh certainly the end of the two sharable thrust of two surveys every four years they came out of the political type ology here the five five or six or seven and a category of americans for the first time in spring of this year they identified a category as libertarian which they said were on nine percent of the topic. lation different studies that it would seem others have done to canada you know between ten and fourteen fifteen percent something like that but it's on the grow it's a label that really hasn't been same by you know the responsibility of governments we're not pissed off but libertarians for what they've done that was because you really haven't done all that much to anybody and in general on the issues that people are frustrated with because they don't seem to be getting any headway stuff like opposing the war in the war on drugs opposing bailouts and bailout economics

that come with it. are the libertarians have been talking about this book for decades of so that stuff tends to become more and more popular as americans do something creasing the frustrated the logjam. so you think the reason part of the reason for this growing libertarian movement is that people think they need to sack of all things government whether it's a government bailout or increased government regulation. and also the way we talk about governments i mean the two parties are really kind of. distressingly but now in the way we talk about politics over the weekend democrats want to spend the whole on talking about how mitt romney had a swiss bank account won and that's relevant to something you know and republicans two months ago were seriously wasting an entire news cycle talking about how once upon a time brock obama needed dog in indonesia you know really we have some problems in

this country and all the sort of the turnout when politicians and when people talk about politics. railing on these really trivial matters in terms people often so they're looking for people who talk about it in a different way even if they might not themselves be totally anti-government but the the the number of people in america who say the government is trying to do too much and is trying to impose itself on our culture too much that number is growing and growing at a very rapid now ron paul of course has become has been talking about all these things and has get into a huge following a very loyal passionate following a lot of his followers are young and so i mean do you think it's kind of become cool to be a libertarian bandstands sure i mean a lot of a lot of more republican oid people was speak about that that early jonah goldberg from the national review was a libertarian just a way to look cool when you're in college. certainly you know republicans not always who i think in any setting my own biases coming through but you know young

people speech you libertarian were put forget that people under a certain age they just grew up under the internet which is basically one of the greatest libertarian experiments and what you hear you are day after day participating in this thing where ninety nine point nine something nine percent of the activity is untouched by government really it's just people communicating with one another and talking and buying stuff we're not buying stuff or. rick rolling one another i mean it's life and active place where people exercise their freedom there's demonstration projects that people the marinating their whole life is an intuitive understanding that in that sense markets and freedom works and so even if you know young people voted for obama huge numbers in the seat for democrats office it's not alarming but young people skew much more libertarian and much more independent than the rest of the population so i think there's

a generation of them brought up in this pretty libertarian by the universe that we have the question is how do we foist those insights into the public discussion and the problem. and you know a lot of libertarians a lot of them are young a lot of them are also frustrated especially with the way that they don't think ron paul got as fair share of media coverage and now they're frustrated over the libertarian presidential candidate candidate gary johnson and and they're planning to stage a protest outside of they had corridors at the c.n.n. headquarters because they're saying it why are you not even mentioning him that that they're frustrated that he is not getting any coverage at all i mean what do you think do you think libertarians get a fair share and news mainstream news that we have i think in particular has gotten a bad deal he ran for the republican party nomination before he dropped. and there

were a couple of specific incidences where c.n.n. was organizing the state and he pretty much qualified under any condition was when they didn't have to go on and there's something kind of unseemly of you news organizations making these arbitrary decisions you know that you have to cross with fifteen percent threshold to get on with the base so yeah good on them i think libertarian is probably more libertarian in and certainly in part of the blogosphere neal sort of your thought about your show is probably over represented by. live experience people are aware of us but in terms of of where they exist in the application of politics for sure they are not taken seriously as seriously as on the left or right just when i ask you one more question there matter so we see that this movement is growing where do you expect it to go in the future. libertarianism you know i think as it applies to politics i would guess that it goes towards more single issue rather than single politicians single candidate or

single party it's not about twenty twelve election for say it's about legalizing marijuana which is something that's going to get on the ballot in washington a lot of which could be the first step finally on doing the program this in the ground just like probation was ended by a statewide revolt so i think people will gravitate towards individual actions of a troll more than let's have this thing called libertarianism but grow and they have enough political members there i think it's you know if it's a philosophy that people find some bits that they like and from bits that they're a little bit freaked out by on a ad hoc basis using these insights to attack the worst problem in the public sphere i think that's where we see things. very interesting that thanks so much for coming on the show that was not well to be editor in chief for reason magazine so that's going to do it for the news but the alona show is coming up in just a half an hour let's check in with the law to see us on today's agenda loan us what

you working on over there hail as well tonight we're going to speak with lynn paramour's who is currently doing a series about job insecurity so often we talk about unemployment those people have no work in this country but there are millions of people that might have a job but they just don't know how long it might be and till they're fired you know what happens if they do get fired and that paycheck is their last and so when break down the figures there they actually tell you the job insecurity can be more. detrimental to your health more dangerous for the country then unemployment might even be alone a thanks for that update that's all coming up in a half hour but that's going to do it for the news in the book for more of the stories we covered you can check out our you tube channel it's youtube dot com slash artsy america we post all our interviews in fall over there and you can also check out our website our producers are busy working on stories that we don't always have time to get to on the air that is our t. dot com slash usa and you can.