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top stories from our teacher to national observers in syria have arrived in hama province to investigate a massacre in which over two hundred reported dead as the u.s. rushes to condemn the syrian regime for the attack without the. packers versus big brother whistle blowers and computer experts gathering new york to highlight what they see is intensifying u.s. government spying on its own people. u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton goes to egypt to personally ensure the military council hands over power to the by the islamist president in what she calls a democratic transition. and the next international space station crew shares its feelings about the upcoming blastoff less than twenty four hours before flying to. moscow tonight up in the news in full for you in half an hour but first part two from washington d.c.
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tonight alone to show just that. with the. technology innovation all the developments around russia we've got the future covered. well there have been some battles waged on several international fronts when it comes to the freedoms we have when we use the internet just last week the anti counterfeiting trade agreement was voted down by a large margin i should mention by the european parliament quite a few people though who wanted tougher restrictions on harsher penalties on those who break certain internet rules were upset by this and they are not giving up they're using a tactic frankly we're seeing used here in the u.s. as well they're trying to get other more willing countries to pass a very similar provisions and then get their own countries have been adopt those provisions under the guise of harmonizing and getting everyone on the same team
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university of ottawa law professor michael guys writes the european commission strategy appears to use sita the candidate you trade agreement as the new act of marrying its provisions in a broader canadian trade agreement with the hope that the european parliament accepts the same provisions it just rejected with the act a framework if successful it would likely then argue that active poses no new concerns since the same rules were approved within the canadian trade deal dr guised is also an international syndicated columnist and joins us now to talk more about how this all is playing out as a doctor i just guess is want to lay this out for me the european union is trying to sort of sneak this in to the seat of agreement and then it could in turn become law even though these lawmakers are devoted to down. well that's the concern so as you noted the any counterfeiting trade agreement was overwhelmingly rejected within the parliament and i think most people thought that that's the end of the story but of course there are other trade agreements that are ongoing there's the trans-pacific partnership that the united states canada and
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a lot of other countries are involved with there was also a smaller agreement that's been the subject of negotiation for several years between canada and the european union i recently obtained a leaked document of the intellectual property chapter and while it dates from february of this year so it's several months old i was stunned to find that as you went provision by provision it was literally taking x. in a near word for word manner and inserting it into the sea to agreement. it seems to me they're also trying to get the courts involved here on asking the european court of justice to rule on act in hopes that the european parliament will then perhaps reconsider the issue well certainly that's what they're doing so well the parliament has rejected this and that of course is you know in a sense the democratic vehicle representing the views of so many europe the european commission which negotiates these trade deals where the canadian trade deal that they're negotiating now or the any counterfeiting trade agreement clearly
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isn't giving up in fact there commissioner gusts. fought for this literally so the very end of the day that the parliamentarians were going to vote he made one final plea to support it so they've got it seems like a number of strategies in an effort to try to revive this one is as you mentioned to go to the european court of justice for a determination as to whether or not act is consistent with european fundamental rights and freedoms that frankly it's not clear why that's all but that's particularly relevant i think most people would expect that you're not going to sign an agreement if it is inconsistent with basic fundamental rights and freedoms but that alone certainly isn't a good enough reason for approval of a treaty and in fact there are some that believe that the court of justice may say that given the parliament's decision there really isn't much left for them to judge at this point but one strategy is to go to the court another strategy would seem is to try to bring those seen kinds of provisions put them into different trade agreements bring those back to the parliament and then down the road be in
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a position to say listen you've largely approved the same kinds of provisions in act in these other deals why not go ahead and approve back to sounds mildly familiar trying to you know have these unelected officials play different branches of government against one another let's focus in on one of the reasons at least that this has garnered so much attention it's been because of the e.u. pharmaceutical patent demands. and these from what i understand could add billions to the provincial health care system i guess talk a little bit about this relationship and about what people are concerned about your area and it's a good point because interestingly we're seeing opposition to the canada e.u. trade agreement in both canada and the european union but we see it for different reasons so that in all the both connected to this intellectual property chapter so in canada there's been a great deal of concern with the patent provisions that european large pharmaceutical companies have been pushing for and there been a number of studies done in canada that was that suggests that it could add
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billions of dollars to our health care costs if these if these reforms are put into place so you've seen big concern in canada for the province's for many who pay for much of this health care as well as many others who say listen we simply can't afford this kind of agreement if it's going to add billions to our health care costs now in europe we're starting to see objections to see that as well and in their instance i don't think there is focused on the prime provisions they're focused more on the copyright issues and because those are the provisions that were found in acts and are now being replicated once again within sita and i'm surprised i should mention i mean i know you're in canada but we should say you know a very similar thing is starting to sort of blossom here in the united states texas republican congressman lamar smith despite the overwhelming voting down of so by the stop online piracy act has come up with a bill he is calling the intellectual property attache act and he has inserted
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several provisions that sound identical to what was in sopa and he you know it's just sort of been introduced very quietly i should add but what do you think i mean is this a method that works is that why you know internationally this is happening you know democratic leaders vote something down and then other people sort of try to sneak it in another way well certainly it does seem to be straight out of the playbook when it comes to some of these intellectual property issues you see it in the trans-pacific. or ship his wealth were some of the kinds of provisions that the united states was pushing for within actor and was unsuccessful in convincing other countries to include they're now going back and trying to get those same kinds of provisions inserted into the c.p.p. so you're right we do see multiple attempts to try to bring these laws into effect in fact we could go back to the one nine hundred ninety s. when there were attempts to bring effect to what later became the d.m.c.a. the digital millennium copyright act that created rules around digital locks in the united states congress actually rejected it in the early ninety's and what happened
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was they went to geneva work towards obtaining a treaty the world electoral property organizations internet treaties and then brought that treaty back to the united states and argued it was necessary to implement the exact same provisions that had been rejected by congress only a couple years earlier now under the guise that they were international obligations for doing so it really does feel a bit like almost the traditional whack a mole game where every time you manage to target a particular issue and you know clear popular uprising and concern around some of these issues those that are looking for this kind of legislative change look for other avenues and methods sometimes very secret ones in order to achieve their goals it really really is interesting stuff and i've got to say i think a lot of people in both of our countries know very well about what's going on we appreciate you weighing in dr michael guy's law professor at the university of ottawa also a syndicated international harness thanks so much thank you. well time for a last break of the evening but sit tight david brooks is turning tricks for the
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one percent once again find out what he said on tonight's all time then jim hansen andriano saddo will be joining me for a dose of half the hour find out what we think about the fat fried movement. there hasn't been anything yet on t.v. . it is to get the maximum political impact. before source material is what helps keep journalism honest.
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those who are behind bars good freedom of self-expression. it's one person i've told on a ward and we're giving it to repeat offender new york times columnist david brooks perhaps that's the way he writes but brooks who really knows how to defend the wrong people at the wrong time just last month the r. and r. award when he suggested that america doesn't have a leadership problem but a follower separate one. it is the in his world it's not the world to crap if you have our leaders as the issues but it's you and yes i'm serious about that take a look at what he wrote he said i don't know if america has a leadership problem it certainly has a followership problem that's majorities of americans don't trust their
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institutions that's not mostly because our institutions perform much worse than they did in one thousand nine hundred five in one nine hundred fifty five when they were widely trusted it's mostly because more people are cynical and like to pretend that they are better than everything else around that vanity has more to do with rising distrust than anything else. so his article left people genuinely wondering how his neck isn't sore from so much elitist ass kissing but now he's out with a new column it's called why are elites stink but if you think he's come around to see the light i'm going to kill your excitement right now because he hasn't this time brooks blasted chris hayes latest book twilight of the elites alone to talk to his last month about what he sees as the failures in our system we also have created a society with accelerating in extreme inequality and more importantly in some senses but less covered declining social mobility so if the bedrock promise of the meritocracy is precisely that you can start at any station and go as far as your
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talents and will will take you we are actually seeing over time the odds of you starting of the bottom in the top are growing longer and longer which suggests to me that the model of meritocracy is not delivering on its foundational promise. now the part of his theory that brooks objects to is what hayes sees as the reason that upward mobility has become so difficult has believed that in order to keep their status elitist elites engage in corruption and a cartel like behavior which prevents anyone else from ever reaching their level but drugs disagrees with his theory the argues that elites keep their status because they're quote ambitious and disciplined he goes on to say quote they raise their kids in organized families they spend enormous amounts of money and time on enrichment they work much longer hours than people down the income scale driving their kids to piano lessons and then taking part in conference calls from the waiting room well david your argument just isn't very convincing its logic is tortured and manipulated kind of like our financial system to brooks that providing
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private music lessons for children is a sign of ambition but i guess working your fingers to the bone at two jobs to pay the bills so that maybe your kids can eat a couple meals a day that's not ambitious at all the same effort is there they just don't have the opportunity to reap the same better benefits as say a banking executive and speaking of the devils maybe it's just me but it sure seems like the financial sector has some discipline issues. last week diamond disclosed the bank lost two billion dollars on trading losses so far several news reports today also revealed that the f.b.i. and the justice department are beginning their own investigation buckley's chief executive bob diamond has announced his resignation this morning with immediate effect the move comes less than a week after the find was find a record amount by regulators in the u.k. in the u.s. john kors on is in the midst of a spectacular fall from grace his latest job as head of financial brokerage firm
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m.f. global came to an end the day the firm failed four days ago over six hundred million dollars in customer funds is missing and the whole enterprise is now under investigation goldman sachs has had preliminary discussions with the justice department over its investigation which was essentially an investigation launched after a referral by the by the f.c.c. on that complex deal the c.d.o. that was sold whether they properly disclosed everything to investors they beat the justice department has launched a criminal investigation of that initially there were a bun no of course they aren't amassing huge fortunes through corruption and rigging the system in their favor it's all due to their unique ambition and discipline right david brooks and i just want to take a second to remind everyone of a well known quote from sir acton who said quote power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely as a historian who wrote on political issues back in the eight hundred i'd say his arguments still hold some weight but i guess not to people like rocks he has a clear history of sucking up to the elites we've seen it before in the last month
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alone so i think the team here on the lawn or so has something to say about david brooks. don't just so told so told you so told you so. we don't as you before when there's clear evidence of the leads abusing their powers to stay at the top and keep everyone else down brooks ignores it and choose instead to slander everyone else for being inferior somehow so for once again defending the producers practices to the one of the one percent we're giving the new york times writer tonight's tool time award. joining me on tonight's happy hour is our view producer adriano seto and jim hansen a retired special operations master sergeant and military blogger for black five dot that what a good team tonight and write it writing. thinking it was my girlfriend oh
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i don't know that i learned this it's a really big bill and i'm so we've been talking a lot everyone has been talking a lot about some of the cuts that department of defense is needing to make and one of them i think a whole lot of people agree on and that is a poll and i know where they pulled eighty million dollars in funding from their sponsorship nascar take a look. it's an honor for us to be able to represent the men and women in the forces who like in that you know when we won the race it was the army calling just like you know. like us. racetrack children. so two congressmen have actually proposed an amendment that would prohibit military sponsorship of sports congresswoman betty mccollum of minnesota congressman jack kingston of georgia what do you guys think i mean on one hand the military says you know we like to promote ourselves we like to make ourselves know exactly and this is
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a crowd that listens absolutely but i mean it's just thrifty is it not i mean we are living in times of austerity as all our lawmakers like to remind us of so if everyone else is sort of tied to their belts like yes the pentagon can as well and it's not even this is not even about defense right here this is just about getting the word out recruitment and i understand there's sort of like a get out get out the vote but you know get out in the list sort of thing but jimbo you're laughing. right i can actually see this one if you want to talk about one crowd that knows about the military it's a nascar crowd because they're the ones those are going through the military and it may be a little bonser coxon harvard and yale or something like that. tend to avoid the military like the play there you go a little cheaper than putting their information on are they going to maybe have one you know. it's friday so i guess we have to talk about sex i feel like we think that is usually how it is known here a lot so apparently unmarried evangelical christians actually have the same amount
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of sex as unmarried not evangelical christian shocking however there's a new study that shows that apparently you know because they're not being taught about birth control this is causing some problems the national campaign to prevent teen and unplanned pregnancy eighty percent of the. even jellicoe holes are having sex and thirty percent of those who accidentally get pregnant get abortions no no really really i'm shocked completely shocked i mean this is this is what happens these are kids with hormones that is if you don't give them to the tools to survive this is what's going to happen plus if you guilt them about what is a natural urge and you know. what it was eighty percent still feel that sex criminal sex is a sin i'm not saying i'm not making any sort of moral judgment i'm just saying that this is there is a cause and there is an effect but i mean if it's a religious thing though that they say they teach abstinence only education but
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it's not. i mean let's protect we're pretending they don't know about birth control well i mean the you know there's no use a lot of people in you know in public school i went to public school and you get you know a pretty in-depth you know information a whole week of sex education and you get to know about it but a lot of these private schools a lot of them are homeschooled their parents opt out they don't think their kids should know about it because they went to catholic school no i was no no no no i went to catholic school and you know what the sex ed was it was don't and that was senior year and that was it and it was it it's done in your vote of money from your friends they got to do is you're out there influence. all my friends went to school . and was a nation it was different well but then again there's a different code of conduct for girls and boys all the violence. should teach their kids a little more broadly when they when they talk to them about so you go to fix one of the two you got to have contraception convince them god told them not to have
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sex or tell them abortions are bad to do all three why do you want another option putting an aspirin between your knees. no it is interesting i think religious belief you know that's fine teach your kids the importance of abstinence but also teach them you know some other things that this maybe a lot of people just a. me. so this is a really awesome story i love happy stories so we're going to talk about it one man in kentucky his dying wish was to be able to give a local waitress a five hundred dollar tip take a look. at. it . the. oh you
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think you didn't see it but she gets all teary eyed and you can start spending ourselves guys amazing. yes so i mean i guess you know he said in his life he was never able to take care of the servers that he wanted to and so his family raised money on amazing story i think there should be more people like that in the world more people like that should exist honestly if you're dying which is to make someone else happy someone that you've never known that says a lot that's a lot about you says a lot of things. but i'm just saying i'm just saying call it come on i'm not going to block it it's awesome bravo well done especially at a piece well done i actually had from that as a former waitress i don't know if i ever got a five hundred dollars have but you know i could certainly i hope she put it to good use and she seemed very happy and i know there is she let's just leave it at that how she paid her birth control. things or think about well what are you doing
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now to bring the mood down. you know a lot of people are proud to be who they are they're proud to be americans there's a lot of people who celebrate black pride there's a lot of people who celebrate gay pride but there's a new group that's at least outwardly celebrating who they are take a look. everyone. our audience why were you so much there are those issues so you don't want. to see them what would you rather see. ok so this is a new show about people who are overweight and they're kind of changing the way they see themselves or changing their language instead of saying i'm fat they're saying i'm curvy you know different sort of labels are going themselves healthy you can be whatever it is that you want to be like as long as you're healthy you're not putting yourself at risk. there's nothing wrong with that not go for
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a fat pride parade ride the krispy kreme float drink in seventy two slurpee is up in. new york city new york i mean i know that's where they should do it sends a little sarcasm there i know why why do i care here's the thing people say they're going to be unhealthy we're going to pay for no they're not going to heart attacks at a young age and we're not going to it's those rice cake you know good doing left wing bloodgood so i'm worried about living to ninety we need a syntax for people who don't sin. and the right skate and well now you're going to be. tripled up hospital person i'm going to be on your bill first and i'm going to be awesome and i say it's all right i mean i don't i think you raise a good point i think that you say as long as they're healthy i think it would be really important for everyone in our society no matter what they look like exactly to feel a sense of self confidence however you shouldn't make light of the fact that a lot of people are extremely unhealthy and that is that is a huge problem and jim boy is right i hate to serve you said i just get on so many
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had the bears with those guys will have a heart attack in the middle. which one is the notion that i'm going to be a. dozen doctors all right so guess who's shedding tears once again i don't know who your friends are bigger of the house john boehner he got teary eyed again this week there's a picture here look at least. during a ceremony honoring the late it's highly an artist's constantino brumidi according to the having to post the post he was they received a congressional gold medal for his artwork displayed in the capitol and speaker boehner seemed particularly tough by and he has a soft touch that one soft touch and he was crying because he had to sit next and that's the pollution that was crying because it was laid on our children the loss of our credit reno know how we've gotten about this earlier and there are some theories out there i'm not going to say who have these theories but but i want to get your reaction to them and you already finished your drink i mean frank thank you don't think that john boehner even though i will say for the record he does
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deny going tanning but some think it came to me that i got to know so similar things and think that i might be telling the truth those are right there he might not be telling the truth and in fact all the tanning has hurt his you know i soloed maynor has made no secret about the fact that he likes to drink wine so some people think maybe he's you know just coming on emotional ups and downs. no i think it's actually it's only really emotional person i think that it's more than his tear ducts i think that you actually see him getting emotional i cried as the ending of brady will or with the little princess got reunited with her mother so i don't see anything wrong think with a grown man and you know what do you do when i'm going to watch now speaking of which we do want to show one more picture of a man who cries and this is andy murray and here is after his defeat by roger federer in the window at wimbledon final. you want about even big football players
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but you're tired that's just like exhaustion that's just how your body like your compensating for putting it all out there that also come so far so good so short and doesn't make you just tear up just thinking about that that's come on all right we've got one more story almost out of time but let me show you commercial vote vets commercial about oil dependence and national security for. back in two thousand and ten. every congress doesn't pass a clean energy claim but plenty already gets stronger every day a real gets one hundred billion dollars richer selling oil around the world. all right so a bunch of you retired u.s. military officers are sort of banding together to try to reduce this country's reliance on foreign oil you're shaking your head vote that's a rank yours and second of all i mean biofuels don't make sense economically going to have navy seals raiding long john silver's and stealing their fryer oil to run destroyers all right that is going to do it for tonight. and thank you for tuning
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