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scott. and welcome to our team comes the hour these are your headlines the turkish prime minister a visit small scale for syria prices russia and turkey and the posing views on how to bring peace to the war torn country and if there's very much reflected in the you want to watch votes later on today on just what to do. with the olympics a private security firm proving incompetent u.s. agents are now being floated to man the posts at british airports while the u.k. is forced to draft in thousands of troops to make up the numbers. from the largest party in parliament withdrawals from israel's ruling coalition prime minister
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weekend starts at a time of the split comes over conscripting religious jews the army. for now on the recent election in libya the results of the foreign intervention into the country's uprising that's in our special interview. as libya continues its long march towards democracy militant rivalry talk session and continued outbreaks of violence opposing major challenges we're joined now by spikes magazine journalist patrick case even extensively about libya and about what's been going on historic moments really all we going to see any concrete changes i think it should have been the story moments i mean what we what we've seen with the elections is the first time the libyan people have been able to express their voice and talk about who they want to be elected for the first time
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in fifty years since nine hundred sixty five should have been the story moment should have been the outcome of the struggle with the logical outcome of the arab spring in libya last year unfortunately what we see with these elections is that this struggle for democracy this march towards democracy is here to talk about it has effectively been walked by western intervention over the past year or so the election itself is being administered by the national transitional council which was effectively cherry picked by the west of the then actually selected by the libyan people it's an unelected body and there have been a lot of disagreements has been a lot of protests over the past nine ten months by the libyan people who are unhappy with the lack of transparency from this government there are unhappy with the fact that the transitional council does not represent their views or the people they want to be in power and they're also unhappy with the way in which the
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election has been planned and the seats for the national council have been allocated a large proportion of them being allocated to tripoli and the west of libya i would touch on the problems that that's causing in a moment you said in your latest article titled a libyan election on. what did you . work for nato intervention last year i think these elections should really have been something to celebrate the libyan people taking the democratic initiative overthrowing the tyrant gadhafi who was in charge for forty two years and they were starting to do that last year were it not for a haphazard intervention led by nicolas sarkozy in france and david cameron the u.k. prime minister who decided to step in and in the name of humanitarian justice intervene in the in the in the way in which a sovereign country was being administered by gadhafi and to really kind of forge
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a wedge between the people fighting the civil war and. cronies that cause real problems because it meant this starts with the transitional council that was set up last february in two thousand and eleven the whole time that the war in libya took place they were all into it towards getting western approval for their actions the national transitional council in libya broadly during the uprising the uprising there in qatar there in the united arab emirates there in chile this year they were flying around the world making deals with western. governments that might make sense in some ways but the thing that they forgot to do and this was the real issue and you see this happening in syria now is to get the mandates of the libyan people to engage with them and to be oriented towards offering leadership to them rather than convincing the west in particular that they are the right people to lead so what you happens following the fall of the. transitional council who are affected
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we helicoptered in later actually because the rebels took tripoli bye bye bye store much faster than expected you had a vacuum in libya with a transitional council that did not represent the will or the kind of the ideas and feel. as of the libyan people in general and there has been this really strange moment since there have been any other way of avoiding that. i think the way that power vacuum could have been avoided would have been to not have had a western intervention in march last you know the real had been a western intervention libya wouldn't be this point right now they wouldn't be having that. election we're just seeing democratic elections in egypt we've seen elections in june this year there's no reason why the libyan people couldn't have also brought about change by themselves in fact i think it takes a very paternalistic mindset in the west that they have to step in and intervene
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and do this on behalf of the libyan people seen massive swathes of the army starting to defect from gadhafi and they're. sure a ragtag bunch of resistance kind of starting to step up and to challenge khadafi in different strongholds. particularly in benghazi it wasn't necessarily the case in the west needed to intervene the tools to intervene in this is. the democratic initiative from the libyan people they interfered with the struggle for leadership that struggle for the future battle of ideas for the future of libyan society which is necessary in a civil war to really unify and get here individuals so that they can so that they can bring about change which actually reflects their will rather than what the west what nato in particular thinks is the best way to a society the west has now moved on to other things i think. there's been
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a lot of turmoil in libya over the last few months and we've heard very little from . people who were very vocal last year so david cameron after the death of gadhafi said this is the opportunity for the libyan people to forge a strong democratic future and i'm very proud of the way that britain has played a role in this but now there is silence. from david cameron from obama from hillary clinton from william hague the foreign secretary in the day people don't want to talk about anymore partly because there's a lot of talk about using a little in stone in syria and they don't want to acknowledge the fact that what we have seen is effectively a very fragmented libya in the past six seven months is that a realistic possibility do you think i mean would a division of power in that way work or is it going to cause a struggle for where there is talk in benghazi and ceasar in a coup which is in the eastern region i think it's very telling that the libyan people have started to reassure these kind of tribal role and also go back to these
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old boundaries and divisions because rather than actually having to struggle for democracy that unifying sense of comradeship that i idea that they've really put everything on the line to get rid of gadhafi and to bring about a new society the west effectively the country into democracy you saw this a lot over the you know in the past year where you know the west would effectively bomb the rebels then when it was safe to come in go in and take that town and then they would move forward that was the kind of strategy so effectively the west handed this revolution and i say revolution in kind of almost scare quotes to the libyan people on a plane and so it wasn't fair for them the democratic initiative from them it's also it really was snapped process of proper leadership and a proper sense of how the country can be governing teacher the you mentioned the rebels there i mean militarily they weren't anywhere near the point where they
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would have been able to topple the regime. so in terms of that you know sort of with hindsight it's easy to criticize but again we come back to where we are now what's not and what we did with barack go in egypt. bring about democracy there's no reason why. things couldn't have happened very very quickly and that was the remarkable thing about the arab spring no one story coming within a short periods of just a couple of months people took the initiative and brought down regimes that were just seen for generations and generations of people in the middle east as being immoveable for the vast majority of people in libya they've never seen elections and anyone under the age of about sixty really probably going to remember life without having years ago and that was the same with them about and it was the same with ben ali. so i mean things could have been very very quickly western intervention i think pretty much puts the struggle for democracy on ice in libya in a way that hasn't happened in egypt and tunisia you know i think there would have
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been a risk then you'd end up with a serious situation sort of a stalemate between the two sides and the death toll just keeps mounting i think there is a tendency of course from people and you saw this in benghazi as well when gadhafi troops were getting ever closer to benghazi and the death toll was rising the people of course do look for for anyone to help them they are desperate search at various points but the problem is when you continually have the idea of a cross when you can call for effectively a guardian angels come in and help he does want that situation and things the west didn't necessarily make it better the death toll increased considerably after nato bombs started to fill in libya and the thirty thousand people died in the in past years during the uprising a lot of that was due to western intervention. bloodless time once the west in actually intensified and internationalize the conflict in a way that wouldn't have been the voice. for. one western intervention
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intensifies internationalize this is often brings about kind of greater bloodshed if you leave the struggle to the people the democratic struggle to the people of the country so yes i think we also need to think in terms of what comes next now there was never you know there were. never a plan for what happened in the post death here in libya by by david cameron by obama it was very much you know obama reluctantly got involved and after less than a week really started to kind of go on the back foot the western leaders didn't have an idea of how they were going to restructure libya they didn't even want to talk about regime change when they started. bombing libya so i think what. i think we can learn from from the libyan situation is that western countries coming in and intervening to try and intervene even good heartedly in a humanitarian situation can really warp a country struggle for democracy educates thank you very much for joining us.
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the turkish prime minister visits moscow for syria crisis talks about russia and turkey have opposing views on how to bring peace to the war torn country this is very much reflected in the u.n. which votes later today on just what to do. with the olympics project security firm proving incompetent u.s. agents are now being flown in to man the posts of british airports from the u.k. it is forced to drop in the thousands of troops to make up the numbers. from the largest party in parliament withdrawals from israel's ruling coalition leaving the prime minister a weekend at a sensitive time a split comes over conscripting the ultra religious jews to be on the. up next it's all the latest from the world of sports with banter.
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hello there thanks for joining me darby company and these are the headlines scandal rocks the tour de france is big name scientist crime by all the drugs. cars are footballers but the appointment of fabio capello is then you coach. gold and gold brazil's paul paul is arriving in london claim to win the big title for the very first time. but first one of the big names at the tour de france has failed to doping test frank schleck has pulled out of this year's race after testing positive for a ban directing the thirty two year old from luxembourg quarter is drawn from the race by his radio shack team she was in twelfth place and finished third overall last year is the second day from scandal to hit this year's tour call for the tried to good record deal france was arrested on july the tenth as part of a mass
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a drugs prize well we're just five days to go until the finish the race heads into the pyrenees today and bradley wiggins will be looking to protect his two minute lead at the top of the standings his sky teammate chris froome is second while italy's been chan's in the barley a further twenty three seconds behind wiggins though as cool as ever during yesterday's arrest age even though he's likely to be attacked by his rivals today. i think we proved that every race we've gone through this year across the board even when there's been other line ups and things like that this team prides itself on racing as a team going out with a game plan and sticking to that game plan and working for each other really in every environment not just on the bike but off the bike is where we support each other and i think i think that's one thing we've got over a lot of other teams deployed with them up around a bit of use in a way that it was it will be very difficult to win by the next two days is the mountains if there is a little crisis for rider it is more likely that they will lose big time in the
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third week then in the first two weeks. should be an exciting day now in other news russian footballers have given their backing to fabio capello who set to become the new coach of the national side in the next few days the former england boss is expected to sign a two year deal with the russian football union and will take charge in time for russia's friendly against ivory coast next month before world cup qualifiers against northern ireland and israel in september russia stars including didier but he let you know of the appointment. or i think this is the correct decision and he's a great coach and one of the best around he's been in charge of england and top clubs around europe he's very experienced it will be create work with him thank you for sharing it with i don't really know what to think of moments so many names were linked with the job like capello is going to learn we'll just have to see what he's able to bring to the team and hopefully he'll help take russian football forward for the week but elsewhere in football barcelona is new coach tito villanova says
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he will be relying heavily on their star man in the messi in the upcoming season villanova is getting the squad ready for their clash with rivals real madrid next month spanish super cup reale won the league last year but villanova believes he has the talent to claim the spanish title this time round. missy has a very special role in this team i mean last season hugh scored a lot of goals but hopefully he will score at least as many this season has progressed a lot of people had said he couldn't score with his left leg or his head but this is exactly what he does know he's more complete now he understands the game and he's the first to take on extra responsibility. with spain brazil's football team are the favorites to claim a limb pick go with this and have arrived in london to prepare for the tournament many brazilian fans were at heathrow airport to welcome their heroes despite the
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nation's glorious history they've never won olympic gold but they have sent a seriously strong squad to the games which does include a santa strike in neymar twenty years old is one of the hottest talents in world football and ac milan front man alexander patio there will play the great britain side in a friendly on friday before starting next week see campaign against egypt bettering a new zealand. elsewhere america's basketball players are about to kick start the european leg of their prelim picked all the gold medal holders the jews who played host to great britain a man just there on thursday before moving on to barcelona the two more exhibition matches but before leaving home they beat brazil eight hundred sixty nine in a friendly to send out a signal to their rivals at the london games however coach mike. doesn't write off the south american side adding that other opponents could also cause an upset i think brazil has a great chance to be in contention for a gold medal. we're going to play in a couple other teams in exhibitions. also will be there and tina and spain and one
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team we will not face and we cross cross over to france you know france was tony parker waving them and all the n.b.a. players they have will be will be really good. now in the meantime the first double amputee to compete at the olympics oscar pistorius has been playing down his medal chances nicknamed the blade runner the south african will run in the four hundred meters and take part in the four by four hundred relay the twenty five year old won a silver medal in the relay event at last year's world championships in south korea however he failed to qualify for the individual four hundred meters vineland day and pistorius reckons it will be a tall order for him to go solo in london. to make the finals going to be extremely tough. there's a big difference in qualifying for the games and being at the top of the gods or running at the top or running already you know forty four seconds which is
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a second quicker than our very own on the four hundred and then probably two when going to syria the two thousand and. you know sub forty fourth time that show america with two more than earth beats different are going to be some phenomenal performances so he faces a tough challenge and so do the athletes from war torn somalia some of whom have literally risked their lives to be at the games. represent their country in middle and long distance running but their path lympics has been a struggle to somalia as a limp it president was blown up by a suicide bomber and with no real training facilities the athletes have had to train on the war torn streets. well imagine when you live in a country that hasn't got a sports team and we had norah to run and train except on the streets of mogadishu at a time when a friday was at its worst we still had to train in iran did not fear early in the morning running past rude x. men and great armor and militias sometimes the soldier on guard would mistake rice
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for beans so he said bombers or attackers and order us to start where they would shoot sometimes the soldiers would stop ice and then detain ask wrong period which really affected our training schedule. in an amazing story now all the athletes are dreaming of getting their hands on a medal but there's little chance of that happening before the games start because they are being kept in a very safe place at the tower of london in fact it's being used for over six hundred years the high is the prime jewels and seemed like the perfect place to put the three hundred teeth sets of medals before the olympics begin in just nine days time. is the safest house in london it's iconic it's looked after precious jewels in the crown jewels for many many years and of course it's one of our host barros as well so it was an obvious choice. well go thought her golfer tiger woods has said he would love to represent his
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country when the gulf makes its return to the lympics and twenty sixteen but for the moment he's got the more pressing issue of getting ready for this week's open for the world number four has won the open three times before but it is this year's course at royal lytham and st annes will not allow any room for error and warns the players will have to be on their game from the very first tee when the opening round gets underway on thursday. it is different there's no doubt because we have to be precise rather gate. and had a ball a specific number normally it's an iron hybrid for i want our driver off the first team you can hit it basically distance you want and you're setting yourself up for the second shot but this is totally different and. psychologically it is different because you have to be on your game right away and you can't just you know hit a ball in the fairway any dissent she want you had to have tapped at the ball a precise number and that is different than what we experience from you know week
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