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operations are over. i was we've been telling you bradley manning's pretrial hearings progressing this
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week today and yesterday for some really interesting arguments that were made to say the least now the prosecution seems like it's doing everything that it can to stack the deck against manik and this goes way beyond tough legal arguments here today government lawyers said the overclassification shouldn't be an issue yesterday they contended that they shouldn't have to prove that leaked information was even classified so basically manning is being charged with leaking classified information under the espionage act yet the prosecution doesn't think that it's necessary to prove that the information should have been or even is or was classified as not only charging somebody with theft without having to prove that something was stolen and this could actually have very serious consequences on the trial the defense lawyers pointed out of the collateral murder video well that was actually unclassified so that all sort of goes to show the labyrinth the mannings team has to navigate through to defend their client and the odds of it all against the alleged wiki leaks source from the very start which is another point the manning lawyers brought up yesterday lead counsel david coombs said in jury
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selection outside civilian pressures should be taken into account so what do you mean by that all top military and civilian officials called manning a criminal before the trial even started. united states strongly condemns the illegal disclosure of classified information it puts people's lives in danger threatens our national security mr science can say whatever he likes about the greater good he thinks he and his sure are doing but the truth is they might already have on their hands the blood to show me on the shoulder where they're going to afghan family. we don't give a good. lawyer. now as it was disturbing enough that manning was thrown into solitary for months on
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end his bosses the boss of the jurors well they were intent on judging him without due process meanwhile manning's lawyers are still trying to bring up the blood on his hands argument now that it's been completely debunked prosecutors seem pretty keen to let it die defense lawyers brought up the issue to show that the enemy wasn't aided by wiki leaks a crime in new york times would have committed if you use that same logic there but prosecutors call the matter irrelevant and comes countered saying that it's important when discussing criminal intent and harm assessments are generally important in criminal cases now or to keep your points posted on that crucial point but meanwhile with the leaks itself is also back in the news he joined us on jermaine's of the ecuadorian embassy in london but the website announced plans to bypass the credit card blockade on donations they plan on using a french system called cart blue and it's contractually tied to visa and master card around the world and a french nonprofit called the fund for the defense of net neutrality has also set up a fund for wiki leaks so this comes a week after the website won
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a lawsuit in iceland for v.z. affiliate was forced to unlock wiki leaks donations by july two thousand and six but the website expects the move to be challenged in court and join the sun has urged owners simply quickly he said we beat them of ice. and and by god i'll beat them in france as well let them shut it down let them demonstrate to the world that once again they're corrupt pandering to washington we're waiting our lawyers are waiting the whole world is waiting do it now the website says the blockade is deprive them of some twenty million dollars in funds so the government i think can try to stop it all it wants organizations like we are winning battles here and there but as we've noted to you before there are already similar sites that have popped up out there and i think the battle for transparency is not one that people are going to give up easily. well there's never a dull moment in economic news these days federal reserve chairman ben bernanke he testified on the hill this week let's just say he wasn't exactly positive about the economy he didn't single signal that any new stimulus was in the works and while claiming that he remained apolitical he gave congress
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a very stern warning not to let the country go off the fiscal cliff next january now we've spoken about before on the program but let me just refresh you on just what the so-called fiscal cliff is the biggest factors are the expiring bush tax cuts which would happen on january first and the expiration of the payroll tax in december that combines with budget cuts that were agreed upon by congress last year so that would be twenty seven billion in cuts each for defense and non-defense spending and twelve billion in cuts to medicare so we've heard from the i.m.f. we've heard from the cvo but of all of these factors combined come january the u.s. could enter a second recession but as usual it's also a lot of politics involved so how do we really think this thing's going to turn out well here to discuss it with me is dean baker co-director of the center for economic and policy research and author of the end of loser liberalism making markets progressive. back on the show tonight. ok let's start with bernanke he before we get into what's really going on with congress but so here is once again
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gloomy outlook on the economy. we know and and bummed about it and suffering from it but then he gives this very certain warning to congress about the fiscal cliff and do you think that he actually is getting. political i mean like he's claiming that he's not really getting involved but that's kind of a policy decision that you know what i think the guy is totally political i don't mean this and i mean the feds always political you can't help but to be and if you just look at the immediate situation if you saw what was going on there it is very very interesting because the republicans were beating up on bernanke you saying you better not do anything to help the economy and the democrats being as they usually are just saying oh well thank you very much mr bernanke you know you've done a great job well mr or not he should be doing a lot more to help the economy right now the twin mandate is to prevent inflation and to have full employment we don't have any inflation so you should be doing more to cause them plumber to try to drop but i feel like it's becoming a bit of a finger pointing thing right is that congress will sit around and say well you know what congress is just so gridlocked right now there's so much partisanship
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that we can't get anything done and so the federal reserve should act then you have ben bernanke saying that will congress really has to act about this fiscal cliff and we're just going to sit back and if we need to then we'll do something if he wants congress to act so bad why doesn't the bernanke you just come out and say we will take no further action period well i don't think that's going to force congress to act it's hard for me to see that there would affect congress's actions one way or the other on the fiscal cliff but i mean the point is right now bernanke could be doing more to try and stimulate the economy could say for example target a long term interest rate he could target the five year interest here and say he's going to hold that zero point seven percent for the next year or next two years he could do something he had suggested back then as a professor at princeton a reference japan you could say i'm going to target a higher inflation rate we're going to throw as much money out there as it takes to get inflation get wage growth up to three four percent a year so he's not doing that he should be feeling pressure on that but getting to the fiscal cliff point understands not really quite a cliff it's not that we fall or if this was right here is i want to have you actually buy into you know the the paramedic that we're hearing you know it's
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a little silly and it's very clear because what's going on is let's say we do congress's absolutely nothing we get to january first we're going to be spending at a lower rate we're going to be paying taxes at a higher rate they're. actually we'll have an impact it doesn't have any impact january first it has a little bit january second and it goes on you know as we go through time so it's not a cliff it's sort of a steep hill if we actually get out into two thousand and thirteen and it's you know march april may and we haven't done anything we're paid all paying higher taxes and we've had these big cuts the budget i don't doubt that's going through the economy into a recession but actually i have ways over and i know what about the payroll tax right mean if anything does go into effect and actually hurt american workers immediately wouldn't be the payroll tax well that would be one things because even even with apart from the payroll tax we're going to see the income tax would go back to the to the clinton levels which hits mostly hiring people but people earning fifty sixty thousand a year they're going to be paying a thousand fifteen hundred a year more in taxes they'll feel that to no more people at the more moderate and
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people twenty thirty thousand pretty much on affected so how do you really think this is going to play out because now we're hearing all of this politicking and i do think that it's kind of interesting now democrats have a plan that they're you know if people want to compare it to the debt ceiling debate. if it's not really that big of a cliff and it's more of just the hill that we're going down and maybe it's not a good comparison but democrats are saying ok we'll let all the tax cuts expire and then after that happens we'll hold a vote just on tax cuts for the middle class and then what are republicans opposed to because they have this pledge that so many of them have signed on to not to raise taxes on anyone so will it you know who would end up being worst for well i think nothing happens till the election so the democrats are going to say here's you know we want to tax cuts for everyone but the richest two percent republicans are going to say no no no so republicans are going to say it has to be everyone democrats or the richest two percent nothing happens to after the election then we see who wins and then and then if it looks let's imagine if i had to take
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a bet you know president obama gets back in the white house republicans will control least the house and they control both you know my guess their point the cards are president obama's hands because he could let the tax cuts expire january first then he comes there. with his bill he says here it is you know everyone gets a tax cut except the richest two percent where asking to vote for a tax cut and asking vote for a tax increase you're prepared to vote for a tax cut for ninety eight percent of the american people how long the realistically can we keep going with giving tax cuts to ninety eight percent if not well there's no problem right now i mean you can be part of our deficit is not a problem today and frankly we need a bigger one because we need more demand in the economy and the deficit creates demand in the economy it's pretty basic economics you're putting money in people's pockets that's going to create demand in the economy somewhere down the road we definitely are going to have to talk about reducing the deficit but for better or worse that's not this year not next year probably not two thousand and fourteen that somewhere down the road you could put into law today you have all these people
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running around saying oh we have to deal with the long term and what i try to remind those people is we can find people in two thousand and twenty that what we think is a good idea we could put it down but that doesn't mean it's going to happen but so then when i when you when the i.m.f. gets involved when you start having these international bodies that are putting their two cents in on the matter what do you say that well for better or worse no one ever takes them seriously the united states i mean the rest of the world they do they often have to but the i.m.f. and the united states you know ninety nine percent of people will say who. ok ok so my last question i mean maybe you i'm assuming maybe you agree with me on this but i just can't understand so last year obviously we had to deal with this debt ceiling debacle that almost took us to the brink of a default and it was stressful and painful for everybody to have to watch all of this happen but so then we had this committee that was supposed to come up with cuts they couldn't do it and so now we have the trigger effects of the sequester ation which is part of you know what will eventually have to have that these cuts are going to kick in congress agreed to these cuts themselves they made this deal
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and so why is it even an option that in january they won't go into effect well you know everything is always up for negotiation and the new congress you know and the new congress isn't bound by what the old congress decided so you know that's what you're going to hold congress to still in power right now they're even i mean there's a little well i mean they can say whatever they want but the end of the day the new congress are going to side with their goes into effect i mean that the old timers could say ok we want to change that but the new congress is actually going to make that decision and you know that's the way democracy works people go back to november going to so i would happens come january that's true that's true i mean i guess trust is already low you know when it comes to congress but things like that just baffle me because you know this is the deal you made and now you're spending all of our time going to be where it is it is not doing anything else not passing jobs legislation but just thinking of how you can walk back your actions steve thanks so much for joining us and i think there really. are guys it's time for our last break of the evening when we come back house republicans are abstaining from sensible policy and they win tonight still time award and would you describe the
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bush presidency as awesome he did that is the my church will be discussing that and more on happy hour. down the official. told time from the. life on the go. video and among all keys mind costs an r.s.s. feeds now in the palm of your. question on the. wealthy british silence on. the.
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to. choose your place to take your stand. to. make your statement. spread the word. coupon stream from low. hi guys it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight we're giving it to house republicans because they just can't seem to keep their promise to stop wasteful government spending and their priorities are way off let me explain here you see the house appropriations committee they released a proposal to cut spending for programs that were underperforming for the two thousand and thirteen fiscal year and those cuts would affect programs like american or n.p.r. public television planned parenthood and some education programs honestly not that
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shot the house g.o.p. members are against those programs but then education that's want to commie little bit off guard they'd like to cut obama administration programs like the school improvement grant program and the investing in innovation grant program however other programs will give more money things like title one teacher incentive fund and abstinence only sex education yes that's right the part of the budget hawks would give abstinence only education a fifteen million dollar increase making its two thousand and thirteen budget four times larger around twenty million dollars they want else out there think that it's ridiculous that investing innovation and innovation is on the chopping block but abstinence only education actually needs more money and basically what i guess we have to do here is bring out the chalkboard for a minute because it looks like we need to give house republicans a lesson for starters do you guys know how bad our education system is right now
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according to the organization for economic cooperation and development the u.s. ranks seventeenth overall in education coming from a country is supposed to be the best i find it hard to equate the best as being in seventeenth place we're not on this list now are reading levels are about average our math and science levels are very poor. the national assessment of educational programs recently found only thirty three percent of eighth graders are profession or advanced in math this country will not be competitive in a global economy if we continue to fall behind how are we not going to invest in making sure our kids have the best skills possible. yep everybody from the president to major take in business feels they know that our science and math programs need to prove it so why was it difficult for lawmakers to understand that and speaking of science why doesn't anybody use science or these are the little things called facts to determine the promoting abstinence only education is
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a waste of taxpayer dollars in fact there's been several studies that have shown that abstinence only education is a failure time and time again what about the study from the guttmacher institute back in may which proved that a better understanding of contraceptives directly correlates with a decline in risky sexual behavior among teens or what about the government report from back in april which shows how states who don't require sex ed or only teach abstinence only have the highest teen pregnancy rates then of course you can take a look at a state like mrs syfy they are the state with the highest teen birth rates and it also happens to have an abstinence only education policy meanwhile new hampshire they boast the lowest birth rate among teens and they teach all types of sex education including contraception information but all that aside republicans are still saying no dice again they are totally overlooking fact data to cigs all the stuff that clearly they are worried about now to top it off they're all about
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funneling more money into a program that is proven not to work kids are going to have sex there is no way around it so let's just all agree to teach them safe practices rather than pretend that sex doesn't exist it's all about politics not your children's safety or their education for the g.o.p. it's about keeping your religious right your tea partiers happy throwing your country's future aka the children under the bus so for promoting an educational program that doesn't work well howling about government spending like a coyote in heat we're giving house republicans tonight's tool time award. our guide it is time for happy hour and joining me this evening is alone a show senior producer jenny churchill and medicine money roll calls her on the hill reporter hello they days ago and. this person we don't have
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a clip for but you know i think most people out there i don't know one hundred. i don't know anybody who's a i am many more people like g. chat but then some people also skype instant message i hope someone still uses am and i would like to meet that was like yeah because they're locking themselves clearly because no one else that you know you know you have their own battery we grew up with that i had to throw it out there. but if you're using skype it's devising then turns out you're going to screw it so they've acknowledge they have a bug that's affecting their users and the instant messages sent over skype are being sent to run random to random contacts even contacts that you have never ever connected with before and so they're rolling out to try to fix up the issue but really ok no seriously one i'm so glad i never figured out how to use sky two what if this happens to teach at my entire life what day it was like crumble around
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. my house for me it's like my only contacts and skype or like my parents so we were just immediately be horrible because i never actually you know like chat with anybody on skype it's just like like the people that i call the right yeah that that who was on there do see for me really i think this is awesome because i don't know i just feel like things are boring lately there's no yeah there's just not enough going on i mean the world so wonderful and i really think that we need some spice in our lives so yeah. i sent my friend talking crap about my other friends to that front i know. do it do it please don't do you don't leave anything to anyone because already hilarious of people make mistakes you know they're all very but it really takes that are made out if you have too many windows you really want to say a word out you know like i want to say something about jenny and then instead of sending it to sam i send it to jenny and jenny to do you know back in the regular i
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don't know how that actually had an article i know but actually one of our guests told me this horrific story where his phone did that it sent like a text to the wrong person it was a text about his girlfriend and it went to it was a it was a disaster and i went to his girlfriend and basically nothing nothing to say nothing of a technology let's go george we just wish them a happy what was the sixty sixth birthday i believe the other week so he just recently did an interview and just take a look at the clip. yours was awesome and you know i was famous and i was powerful and. but i have to have no desire for framing anymore. and i don't love that he actually like can fade that we're never going to see obama be like yeah that was awesome what only george bush would ever say so but it sounds also like the worst job on the planet not to mention it's hard for you because
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you're always in the in. iraq afghanistan there are all these wars and death under this watch and i was farm so yeah it was really a daring about george bush equally really had no idea what was going on when he was president he had a twenty two percent approval rating when he left office but it was awesome that he was famous and very wonderful he was famous i could see was no more on the mind of that also being a because he was president i don't know but also listen he has a fancy plane yeah lots of cars people they cared what he thought you could motor people and cared. also it mattered what you thought now it's over less is less of the hard. words all that there was some for the people in the media that's for sure because they had a gem to work with every single day. but i know by we're going back to say the bush administration was high time for the media and i'm sure i consider it was a boss of the biggest lie of all time sorry it was awesome for jon stewart also
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being the downer here and stop talking about a modern war. let's just move on to some real roles apparently i think this girl's going to explained why why you should be a girl or what russia is all about. russia russia is usually seven to ten days the beginning of every single semester and it has to do with you meaning all of the stories are recognized on your college campus you will meet during the day life events the school hosts or night parties the sorority and a host actually want to party is during last week it's a five story together used to meet people you mangle you see if you connect. i'm going to pass on that one i don't want her in my sorority oh i would love that when we were down here norrie i didn't get to explain very well. she was rushing i don't know i never went through this because i didn't i wasn't in a sorority like way to you know where that was not a big thing or that none of them are there any more i have no server to answer i
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recall though. apparently i barely had so competitive days that you actually need a consultant to tell you how to rush there's a woman samantha on sperling for example she's the image consultant in new york and she charges eight thousand dollars for a friday to sunday intensive whatever class with we want to call it on on how to russian giving you advice and what kind of photo taken and all that stuff but but but. it like i'm sorry but i expect if you're not cool eight thousand dollars in a weekend isn't going to make you cool and if you're all of popularity paying money for already paid ridiculous getting about oh and then i don't care because you also pay for me to learn how i mean i can but already have fees first. and you know that piece yeah exactly the same you have to buy a new t. shirt every week so you can go to the bar in the same two shirts are all the other girls so many t.
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shirts apparently none of us understand it but i know you don't really know what you say out of this but apparently there are a lot of people out there that are total suckers or maybe we don't understand because they don't know how important i think that's true i think we just don't get it and i'm saying that honestly because there are so many of my friends at the office who are sorority have been in sorority stars i know they did it all themselves they didn't have to hire consultants they're all pretty girls but well it's a tough world out there and i don't like that anymore and she was wearing the same necklace that you know legally blonde girl was wearing in legally blonde girl in our in our how to read yeah reese witherspoon yes same same necklace. i don't want to. say we're running out of. time but really quickly we just throw this out there because we're talking about olympic stories all the time but really nobody wants the soccer at the olympics the one deal that led to the olympics had to withdraw five hundred thousand soccer tickets due to a lack of interest c m how was a ballot like in england i think what's happening is they're marketing it as soccer
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and everyone of my doesn't know what that is what and you know you begin to. grow them sport but it isn't soccer the most like poppy i mean hello the world cup football is the most yeah billers sport not only in the world but also in england is just good also could be because you just made david beckham got on the british team i don't know oh right answers. he does not well doubt about i hope that it's not i mean everything in my life i mean you know i'm like what's going on with becks here i don't know what is it because of the brain that's the only thing i can think of like i do people. in this story yeah anyway. but thanks for joining me today that is it for tonight's show thanks for tuning in as make sure that you come back tomorrow and in the meantime don't forget to like the lower show on facebook don't forget to follow us on twitter subscribe to our you tube channel and forget the you now can check us out on who is well coming up next in the.
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