tv [untitled] July 19, 2012 4:00pm-4:30pm EDT
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the fighting and bombings continue to rip syria and it seems president bashar al assad thinks of power as opposition forces hit close to home meanwhile the international community is desperate to end the fighting our team is one of the only networks to have a reporter on the ground in syria and bring you an exclusive report from the battle lines. if i'm not successful will be extradited to sweden imprisoned immediately without being charged. plus one month after drilling a song she took refuge in the ecuadorian embassy the wiki leaks founder is still awaiting a verdict in the balance of songes extradition to sweden and possibly the u.s. to face some bloodthirsty justice system we'll bring you an update on his case if
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the u.s. military officials cringe during the wiki leaks info drop they sure are going to like what's coming next the hacktivist group anonymous has set up its own file sharing site what can we expect from the web site paranoia. it's thursday july nineteenth four pm in washington d.c. i'm abbie martin and you're watching our team. the violence continues to rage on in syria this time hitting closer to home the assad regime than ever before a bomb was detonated inside the syrian national security building killing multiple top assad security chiefs including the president of sorrow brother in law who is often hailed as serious second president and the u.n. security council resolution that would have slapped new sanctions on the syrian
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regime has been vetoed by russia and china unlike many mainstream outlets that report on syria's civil war from the comfort of other countries newsrooms artie's been on the ground in syria covering the conflict firsthand or if an ocean has more from damascus. the news about blasts has come at a very tough time for the syrian capital in the last four days damascus has been seen for what the opposition and free syrian army have dubbed the final battle for damascus a decisive battle for the syrian capital shootings have been heard in very different parts of the syrian capital also seen black smoke drifting over the city's skyline and we've also been hearing helicopters not only flying over one of the oldest continuously inhabited capitals in the world but also firing we can see some smoke even now in actually many different neighborhoods of damascus many countries have closed their embassies here in syria and have withdrawn all personnel in this neighborhood alone turkish embassy over the saudi embassy this is the building of
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american embassy tallon embassies these embassies have all suspended their work overseas companies have also have a creator their stuff foreigners no longer feel safe here in the syrian capital and they have fled but ordinary syrians don't have the same choice the world has come to their door and they have nowhere to run and they're trying to organize their everyday life waiting for this nightmare to end one of the most important rule for these days in the syrian capital is not to go to the cities troubled areas where the clashes between the rebels and the army still continue and the names of these neighborhoods are very well known to everybody here might have be then. well know. it's too dangerous but damascus is a very big city with a population of around two million people maybe these days even more with old displaced families from homes and other at the center of the uprising from all across the country shelter now here in the capital and in some neighborhoods you can see pictures that you don't at all expect to see in the capital of the country
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and gulf war i like this family alone picnics really very peaceful pictures so one can flick has been raging for seventeen months already people say bit tired exhausted but they also say that life must go on my phone or should not be from damascus in syria now as i mentioned earlier the un security council failed to pass a resolution of threatened sanctions against syria's leadership for war and what happened at the u.n. i'm joined now by our correspondent. from our new york studio marina talk a little bit about what happened today. well abbie what happened essentially is that russia and china did what they said they would do if the u.k. brought this draft resolution to a vote they vetoed this draft resolution supported by western countries that would have pave the way for sanctions to be imposed on the syrian government this
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resolution essentially called on the syrian government to halt the use of heavy weapons and remove itself or remove the military from heavily heavily populated areas and it gave the syrian government ten days to do so if it did not comply western powers wanted sanctions imposed on damascus this is something that russia and china said they were not going to support for many reasons was the major one being that they believe that the resolution that was drafted supported by western countries put all the pressure and consequences on the syrian government and did not put much pressure on the armed opposition that are also participating in the escalating violence so instead of hammering out a resolution that all parties would have agreed on and adopted we saw this showdown the security council which at the end of the day also compromises the credibility of the security council when you know the western countries know that you members
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of the security council are going to veto and they still create a kind of the actress that's playing out in the media right now when there's only twenty four hours left for the u.n. supervision mission in syria to operate before the mandate expires and what will happen if the u.n. super supervision mission and marina what essentially would happen abbie is that the u.n. would be left without any type of observers in syria to verify what is taking place there to try to mediate mediate and witness what's happening and prevent any violence from escalating that's what would happen and without any kind of observers in the ground we could. only imagine how much more difficult it would be to play for the international community to play any type of role in syria now there is a plan in place or a draft i should say on the table a new one that was proposed by is being proposed by the u.k. that extends gives a technical extension to the u.n.
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supervision mission in syria for a final thirty days western countries wanted a vote to happen this afternoon but russia said that they have to thoroughly read through the text of the document document a lot of it is is contradictory and they all all the countries of the security council need to report back to their capital so this vote may happen on friday but again we should mention and remind our viewers that the u.n. supervision mission in syria has been suspended since mid june because of the violence there it's been too dangerous for the three hundred observers that are in the country to walk around because both sides in syria are participating in a violent front definitely a lot of violence on the ground there where we have one of our correspondents there report i understand that russia also did a proposal. you know about to the u.n. security council and what are the chances of them accepting that proposal. that's
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right russia also drafted a resolution extending the u.n. supervision in supervision mission in syria for another three months but russia to day said that they're not going to even bring that resolution to a vote because they don't have enough support for it because western countries said that they will not support any resolution that isn't tied to pressure and consequence against this syrian government and they are specifically referring to chapter seven of the un un charter which of paves the way for sanctions and ultimately it could be the way for military intervention into syria just as we saw unfold in libya you know about it you know about a year and a half ago a little less so russia said they're not going to bring their draft resolution for a vote because they don't want to create another circumstance where the media is saying how the security council has failed to help those in syria and said russia is trying to find a common ground it says where everybody all fifteen members of the security council
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can agree on some type of language that at the very least would extend this mission in syria because you can only imagine if the u.n. loses its observer force there what do you have left who do you have left you just have the opposition groups the armed opposition the syrian government and the civilians in the middle you don't have an observer or observer force how could that make the situation any better but the u.s. today said that it will not agree to an indefinite extension of that mission unless there are consequences and pressure against the syrian government tied to an extension of that mission and you mention just how one sided the security council resolution was which is why of course it was vetoed why do you think the u.s. and western powers are so dedicated to out the assad regime here. well you know it's interesting it was it was eleven months ago to the day from yesterday it was august eighteenth when u.s. president barack obama first said assad must go so this is not anything new western
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powers have been increasing their rhetoric and their pressure on the assad government many experts and analysts have their own you know their own opinions as to why but the russian ambassador to the united nations batali churkin today said frankly that you know this political pressure is not just about humanitarian reasons he believes the western countries are also trying to remove the assad government from power and move its way into iran to possibly destabilize iran to possibly have more influence in that area because syria and iran you know are our allies more you know more aligned those countries and they stand up and argue against western powers so if they if you remove one of the two key players then you know the battleground becomes that much more beneficial to those that are fighting against those two key players that's what some people believe if you speak to two
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officials from the western countries they say this is a humanitarian reasons the syrian people deserve safety they deserve to live in their own democratic country and decide the fate of their future but you know according to many many many reports you have fifty percent of syrians in syria supporting the assad government and the other side fighting and there's also members of al qaeda that are intertwined with the free syrian army that are helping them fight and remove the assad or fight up against the assad government in the military this is a very complicated situation but syria's located in a very fragile situation very fragile geographic area of the middle east and so if syria falls as kofi annan the joint special envoy said when addressing the media a few weeks ago it will be an explosion it will not be an implosion like what. the international community saw happen with libya and if you just have a free for all that all there and you're not handling the situation delicately it
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could have reverberating facts but clearly the western western powers that are pushing for assad to go are maybe not thinking about the consequences that may take place if you just remove a leader that has been in place for quite a long time very very interesting point arena and you know i do remember the rhetoric actually after nine eleven of bush saying that syria was one of the countries that they had their eyes on so it definitely has been a long time coming thanks for coming on even your take that was our to correspondent kareen important. still ahead on our team holed up in the ecuadorian embassy just steps away from british police with an arrest order and julian assange is desperately awaits an answer on his plea for political asylum well look at his case and current condition next. r t is the state run english speaking russian channel it's kind of like.
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russia today has an extremely confrontational stance when it comes to u.s. . pepper spray that just burns your eyes right right i mean it's like a derivative of actual pepper it's a food product essentially. a much stronger than anything you'd be by a lot of. thousands of times stronger than any kind of debris and it will put you know. with tensions raising by the day in syria much light has had put on the regime's dealings with the recent release of syria gate some two point five million e-mails in the newest wiki leaks communication dump the emails are said not to only
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highlight communications related to the assad regime but also to expose the hypocrisy of western rhetoric and actions against the region but the infamous leaks from the whistleblower organization may be coming to a halt that's because wiki leaks is nearly out of cash the group says its funds will run out in a couple of months unless donations drastically increase wiki leaks has had difficulties raising funds and visa master card and pay pal among others have caved to u.s. government pressure to pull its avenues to donate through which many have decried as an act of corporate censorship now to counteract this financial blockade wiki leaks is now saying that it can accept cash donations through a french nonprofit rerouting money through francis fund for the defense of net neutrality meanwhile for one month now wiki leaks founder julian assange has been held up in the ecuadorian embassy in london still awaiting on the decision to grant him asylum before he made the move to seek asylum he stated on our team that the
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u.s. was working on a secret indictment against him for extradition right now that is u.s. grand jury which is being investigated me for eighteen months and it appears that the secret indictment which will use to try to start states at the same time. i have a case of the supreme court here in great britain which used to be the house of lords. and if. if if if i'm not successful be extradited to sweden imprisoned immediately without charge i have not been charged . if indeed a songe is extradited to sweden chances are that it wouldn't be long before he ended up in u.s. custody facing the same charges that a private bradley manning who after nearly eight hundred days of sitting in military prison is finally having a pretrial hearing at fort meade but for now everything rests on ecuador's shoulders president rafael correa atta and his administration has said little about
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if and when asylum would be granted ecuador's foreign ministry says lawyers are studying the political and legal implications of this high profile case before making a decision may not when it comes to the fate of joining us songe patients is more than a virtue it's all we have as a global community when we await this decision. paranoia and might not sound like the name of a trusted source for government leaks otherwise known as a potentially alarming research anonymous intelligence agency paranoias in the new web face of anonymous with a look wiki leaks slowing down in the lack of impact from anonymous hacks and members of the lose hacktivist collective decided to launch a wiki leaks esque web site to host massive data leaks and a user friendly fashion so what will this mean for wiki leaks the internet and the future of transparency barrett brown founder of project pm joins us now to break it all down. thanks for coming on to. talk
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a little bit more about this web site and how it differs from wiki leaks well it's one of these things that come out of anonymous that. there are very heartening this is exactly what's needed what they do essentially sort of provide one more option go. have acquired information or whistleblowers or otherwise you know one simulate something. in which they know that that information will be. very liberally release to the public as opposed to some of. some of the decisions that we can exist made which have been controversial in the senate lead community slowly believe some portions of its differed. from time to vacation. what they've done so far and they're off to a pretty good start not only have the least large group of e-mails from a company called no data but have also gone through categorize them by you know by topic and. found some of the more important interesting leases or maybe made them
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into tension that's something that really needs to be done in the environment in which we have to work. and yeah as you just mentioned it does seem and in the past that the leaks have been done where it's just a massive amount of information that it's just almost impossible to sort through or takes a very long time so what they're doing is more kind of categorizing making it more user friendly for people to really access the data yeah and we'll exist on the same thing and some of the uses this is just you know this is you know not everyone is going to sin that leads to wiki leaks and this is by some other option but also sort of x. is in addition to leaking aspects they also do a couple of more technical background things that need to be done. very emails making sure those are available because you know someone has to do that and they've stepped forward and done that which is. very hard and also hosting of my b.m.r.
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which he. does so it's like very similar information on some past releases regarding intelligence. so what we've seen mostly with anonymous so far are these people who are claiming to be anonymous is these really high profile hacks takedowns this is different though this is this is where people are submitting information to then right. that's the stuff only one of the options they're supposedly us and so are they are they don't know if they are going to be hosting any sort of hacking that they do themselves or is this most economy within you know that legal parameters where it's just there they're the receivers of information that people get them i don't know i don't have any indication one way or the other if you know. if what their plans of the future i think they're playing that by ear there are still people and when you call anonymous who do most of them sends on
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quiet information of public that along. by whatever means they choose to do so and when that happens all this and there's a number of options they have and this would be one of those options paranoid and if they do so they would be you know generally assurance this would be released perhaps in a different way that i might. that my moniker of they're going to someone else or they dump themselves entirely you know one of the one of the important things here is that there is there's a lot of sort of monday dynamics to go into making sure that information not only gets dumped and just you know added to the great you know ocean of information already exists but it also receives attention from the journalists who are willing to make use of themselves. verite it seems like like a great idea if to supporters of wiki leaks who say you know that's that's great let's get another web site out there the more the merrier more options for people to submit to but it does seem like there is some members of anonymous who are at odds with the wiki leaks or at least their twitters that there was kind of some
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word spoken between the two people who are running the twitters or reckonings and saying it's irresponsible for you to be kind of doing this without really secure measures to do so why do you think that they're kind of at odds about this new site these incidents happen a lot it's you go and this goes you know one person who has access. to that interview should paranoia by moon but i don't it's hard for us to i was you know with paranoid people around the time and often they were kind of used so the fact is that there are always were expanding its options by which you know actions of bigger submitters will have huge you're right now anyone can use it. and you know use a dummy you know accounts and use whatever. so it's obvious we are all ears and oftentimes. discussion on these issues but sometimes these
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conflicts arise and someone responds and oh it's important if it happens. one hundred forty characters certainly isn't a good form for debate most of the times when barry i mean we just mentioned earlier that wiki leaks is losing a lot of funding with the you know the blocking of all these big one a visa master card pay pal of course and they're really seeking donations they're saying they might have to shut down eventually if they if they don't get donations in the near future do you think that this will be a problem with paranoia it doesn't seem like they're really asking for donations why do you think that is. like a lot of groups like this they do accept the coin donations but they have luckily a lot of people you know to mix and under tremendous i'm christian and not a pressure and sort of covert attacks for various measures. that we know of self are an assault is understandable they're having problems through that particularly in terms of fundraising as you mentioned they're opening up options
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for that that will hopefully help them to understand i'm so paranoia and a lot of other sort of the michael groupings of anonymous they tend to set things up such that i you know they don't have a lot of overhead so money won't open won't be an issue you know someone is out there spending his own money and giving up servers and there's a lot of great people involved in this and that's why you know it's important for them to get a fair hearing when it comes to use of the car on twitter what about you know having buildings and security around you know they're doing a very necessary job right now and it looks to me like. but aren't there still a massive amount of people working to sort that information and categorize it like you said they are kind of doing a similar things and we can examine is it really that last seven overhead or are manpower really going the operations to well. as it is now with this this first major release of the you know there's
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a great deal nation there and anyone found will be entire that for a while and you know themselves send in checks you know find something interesting or sort of get it back to the people by the. and then within paranoia they have a number of people who are themselves more formally doing that process and you know it's something that requires assistance looks like you know i mean obvious they can always use more people trusted people to come in the box and on the server and say you know i would like to know download these things and then look for information that's pretty easy process a lot of the other experience in the last couple of years so i don't i think it's something that's i think we're seeing is viable crowdsource research and assimilation is a viable. a strain of activism and i think more experimentation of the sort is needed so what about the people behind paranoia i mean we know in this high
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profile case of joining us on bradley manning i mean we're seeing his fate unfolding before our eyes now here in fort meade and then you know joining us songes now facing a lot of pretty serious things going on right now what do you think's going to happen i mean it's pretty easy to find out who is behind websites or who is really gaining access to information and the technology age that we live in barrett do you see anything happening with this web site of the people really facilitating this project. everyone who engages in this process. or should have it is some some risk because of the way that governments and certain companies post u.s. government these things it's even more dangerous for leakers when people with experience in the n.s.a. part of justice who have. been the ones to bring his information about things like you know so you know wiretap you know they they were found out about it and so it's
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. everyone is subject to a great degree of danger on that front that's why i guess it would be great for people sort of outside those who support these kind of things to. donate to bush river groups or the money. they attention to the information that comes out of the very least make sure that this risk doesn't doesn't go now but it is used that's the part that supporters and to the rest of us always up to the individuals involved in each. it does same with the war on whistleblowers only time will tell thanks so much for coming out and giving your opinion that was bare brown founder of project plan. capital account is up next on our two so let's check in with lauren lister to see what's on today's agenda what's going on lauren did you ever see the movie inside job the documentary it won best documentary out the oscar oh yes that's a great movie yeah right ok well wouldn't you want to know what the filmmaker charles ferguson thinks now because if you recall in his oscar speech he gave that
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kind of famous open where he said it's been three years since the financial crisis and no senior level executives have been convicted remember yeah well when you want to know what he thinks now you're on the scene even longer so you're going to find out on my show in just a couple minutes because we spoke with him we had a lengthy interview it's really interesting to hear what he thinks about all of the scandals going on now and also the price he's paid for taking on the establishment because he hasn't come out unscathed it was really interesting to hear his insights looking forward to it thanks so much lauren i was a dozen for now for more on the stories we covered go to youtube dot com slash our to america or check out our website or to dot com slash usa and also always follow me on twitter martin i'll see you right back here in a half hour and stay tune for capital account.
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