get built because the paperwork and just the the level of evidence that will be required is absent if i go on the c.e.o. there eleven i got to wrap it up guys i want to thank you both for joining me tonight. thank you. it's time for another short break but when we come back andrew blake talks tech to me we'll be talking about anonymous his attempts to mimic wiki leaks and a little spat between the two then patrick leahy is closer to the entertainment industry than spandex on one nine hundred sixty s. batman that he was and i've told time lord after that. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so poorly you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm target market is a big issue. the

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or the. all right it's thursday so that means that it's time to talk tech now some of our stories are a little bit more complicated today anonymous announced that they're setting up their own wiki leaks style web site that's called paranoia last week what we really want to know is what the beef is between leaking leaks and not and that you tube is

rolling out a new facial blurring feature that could help protect dissidents want to post videos but i don't know i have a feeling it's going to be used for a lot more than just that and it turns out of the justice department love secrecy so much that they sued a telecom that legally challenged a national security letter so here to break it all down for us and talk tech to me is our producer and your break they are any way to do things as confusing stories now if you have a lot of pressure so i'm sorry but normally we get to play with like some fine new gadget talk about a fun new app known to be really boring today a little more complicated but i think it's interesting so first of all anon is launching this new web site ok and it's called paranoia which stands for potentially alarming research anonymous intelligence agencies. one thing they're saying it's getting better more usable than wiki leaks actually it's been out for a couple of months now but it's only starting to really pick up steam the last couple of weeks wired had a great thing last week on it so pretty much if you know anything about wiki leaks it's been kind of

a tough couple of months couple of years even for you know right now you have a i think actually one month today heidi you have the whole manning trial which is kind of really putting pressure on the whole operation so what a couple announced it is they teamed up they started trying to find now this really an alternative to wiki leaks but more of just a a different outlets where people are going to be able to publish their files like right now you can actually submit anything to wiki leaks they're not doing anything and they see that they're running out of money and who knows how long this operation is going to be going for so a couple of months teamed up with project which is another great web site that collects information and kind of this try to make a new database for people are going to be able to submit information that they might. i think is appropriate to go out to the world that they might also feel little nervous about putting out there but the thing is that haven't we already seen a few you know we inspired websites. you also had a lot of old members leave they were going to launch a new projects of everybody's launching new projects that maybe there should be

thinking they're actually trying to we're actually trying to do this right like a lot of activists whether the with anonymous or different groups what they will do often is that they will go ahead they'll get as much information they'll leak it to the web they'll publish like is it file in our final bill to go down there and see you know whatever they've collected here they're actually trying to structure it and actually make it so that everything makes sense they're actually building a database or allowing people to submit things anonymously they're trying to have you know proper encryption going so that it will be relatively safe which brings us actually back to this going to be so let's hear about the beef right because a lot of people look at this and say that well anonymous is basically saying that wiki leaks is totally failing and so they're going to do them they know there is a twitter battle and so there was a bitter battle that we just had bear brown from project on american news earlier today and he was saying that you know it's kind of hard to say that there is between the two of them a lot of people will argue otherwise that you know there really isn't one just because when you're arguing over twitter you only have one hundred forty characters to say something pretty much some person behind the weekly leaks account people

manage to argue over twitter all the time i mean i do it and i think it is a very valid point some people behind the weekly leaks account were attacking people behind the anonymous i.r.c. twitter account some were saying that this was on secure that was unsafe and the words were exchanged but you have to keep in mind that this is more than just a few people like the whole anonymous thing it's it's an idea you'll say this over and over and over again no one knows how many people are involved with we could leaks let alone anonymous thousands tens of thousands across the world so it doesn't matter who's involved with who right now is just a people are trying to sit down and say what we do is important and some day if it's not there you're going to need to be able to get information out. and it's by systematically putting it someplace like paranoia hosting it letting people to go through a database and people submit things made it easier for them to get i mean i think that's really important you know point of it is that sure wiki leaks is i guess you could say enemy number one of the u.s. government right now but they started something you know there was some kind of

spark of see and it's think we're going to see more people trying to mimic that more people trying to carry that through but let's move on to this. next story shout it one of the things we've seen obviously there's been a lot of upheaval in the world over the last year or more with the arab spring and we've obviously seen twitter play a large role in that we've seen you to play a large role of course when you have people posting videos online but then if you are someone in a country where you're a dissident and you feel like your life might be in danger there's a whole little problem of your face being all over you tube and then you become a target so they just rolled out this new face blurring technology i don't know what do you think that a good idea i mean it's a great idea in theory but i for one don't trust it whatsoever i mean keep in mind that you tube is google google also has a pen out right now they're getting ready to have video for you speculation software kind of like what you see on facebook right now where you upload a photo and it automatically goes oh we know her and you just click it google harm

i mean that's a scary going to google wants to take they are taking it they have a pen for it they're trying to finish it up right now we're going to able to upload a video to you tube and it's going to say hey that's one of the coffee should be great for the show because then you have self instantly however if you're if you're uploading videos to you tube it's still going to google server you're still giving google your information you're still giving them your face and pretty soon you can be giving them your identity just by giving them your face so until they come out and actually say oh by the way when you upload this you know we're going to delete that initial information in a reset from our servers entirely in less they say that it still really doesn't really matter in the end but so i mean let's say to you know what we found out a lot recently is that google released this transparency report they told us how many times the government comes to them for user information so if they want to and could the government just say hey we need to do that video right there and tell us is that i mean for i don't work for google i don't work for you tube and i have all that is how old are you the government absolutely could be blurring the. pretty

easily that's something you have to wonder are they actually going to keep that raw file are what are they going to do with it so i mean it's a cute idea it's going to be great if you do. something stupid at a party you want to upload a video of your friend and blur it just for the sake of having a couple of giggles yeah sure that's fine that's kind of where you see it going to or like people want to post things very kids that maybe they don't kids but if you're actually like a dissident ehrlich of political protest or who is doing something that other people might not want you to be doing more than just you know taking a sharpie to some pastel guy's face might be a whole other story i don't think it would happen let's just do this last one to national security letters the ice issued hundreds of thousands of these things since two thousand during this war on terror and usually come with a gag order so you're not allowed to talk about it and there's been a lot of critique out there at the you've been heavily abused and so we just found out that this one telecom actually decided to sue them and then the d.o.j. just said fine we're going to see you back what happened there somewhere. it's kind

of scary it's really really really scary things are just getting scarier i know i sound completely paranoid out of my mind right now i think it has a little bit to the whole conference last week i might have been brainwashed by police this would have been ruined when we start to embrace all these technologies they just start becoming more mature and kind of dangerous and it's doesn't help that this comes only days after we found out that there were one point three million wiretap requests to telecom companies in just the last year so yeah i mean you pretty much summed it up the f.b.i. could say i made it so they are not going to. go with me and send out these and the cells use these security letters and they can ask for information they don't need a warrant all they need is someone else from the f.b.i. to say yes this information is important it is relevant we need it and the telecoms just have to hand it over and this is bring up a huge first amendment issue they whether or not you can just if you're have information in front of you if you can just hand it over to the f.b.i.

without putting up a fight the f.b.i. seems to think that you can't so what apparently though i mean from what i understand this is the creep. part to me is that so hundreds of thousands of these these things have been issued right eric holder i think said that maybe only four challenges have ever been out there once apparently you have only legally you know this telecom obviously have the ability to challenge it and have the d.o.j. argue that the company was violating the law by challenging its. leg do not challenge of the author already is basically what the less i mean here you can't fight city hall and so if you really can't fight you know it's the trigger who for f.b.i. building that's an entire partyer different stuff scary stuff this is the national security state that you live and i get around you know people need to read about that it's very unfair as everybody you know ever to go read about our andrew thanks for joining us course that you. are guys it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight we're going to get to

a senator who really loves the magic of the big screen the senator patrick leahy he's the chairman of the senate judiciary committee he's also quite the movie star really order to fulfill his dreams as a lifelong fan of batman he's gone to cameos in the most recent movies one last summer and another and the dark knight rises which is due out this weekend but that's not his only tied to the movie industry he's truly one of hollywood's best friends he acts as a liaison to entertainment big wigs on the west coast like the n.p.a. and there are a specially when you take into account how he's pushed intellectual property legislation like sopa and pipa. if they existed in the physical world that is a store for doing this everyone agree go down raid him lock them up shut of the place but we have to do that. the same it is happening all over the internet. that's right levy was the one who actually authored the senate version the protect

ip act and despite the protests the wildly successful internet blackout that we saw in january of this year when he still stood by the bill actually not only did he stand by it he fearmonger it even more for the copyright trolls online infringement the sale counterfeit goods cost american creators producers businesses billions of dollars and results in the loss of hundreds of thousands of jobs this theft is unacceptable any time certain in this economic climate is damaging really to our security as a nation. however is a boogie man routine didn't work on us we've told you repeatedly on this show how studies prove the piracy isn't the reason for people losing their jobs we also dispel the myth that infringement hurts music in movies sales of anything the studies out there will show you that it actually helps them believe he doesn't care he does the bidding of hollywood so he keep stretching along and of course

hollywood thanks him royally for it through donations so you cordin to open secrets dot org vermont senator has received nine hundred and two thousand three hundred sixty six thousand dollars during his political career that's almost a million dollars from them alone so course is going to be doing what's best for the entertainment industry let's get back to batman right because here's the most recent example of just how chummy at least he is with the hollywood execs as i said the dark knight rises will be in theaters in just a matter of days everyone's really excited and i am and lee will just be in it he was also a special guest to a screening of the film by none other than warner brothers c.e.o. barry meyer surely you guys all know his hollywood production company. well i also know meyer as the head of the n.p.a. that's a lobbying group who are it's very hard hand in hand with lawmakers in washington to protect the interests of hollywood even if those interests are going against

progress and technology and sometimes logic so this all shows the vicious cycle that hollywood is in bed with washington elite he might as well be the dominate tricks whipping both sides into shape and everybody knows that we have to give demand progress a shout out today for their very clever comic that illustrates the corruption in true batman form if anything this type of relationship proves that sopa pipa they might not come back in their current form as we all know they'll be not so subtly regurgitated in a new form soon and with lee he being robin to hollywood's batman lobbyists and we know that his name will be all over these future efforts so for blatantly showing off how easily he can be bought through donations a cameo appearance at a glitzy premiere were flashing the tool time signal for senator patrick leahy. our guys it's time for a last break of the evening but when we come back we'll have another goes a happy hour for you or a lister and the reality sandal beyond was cast and they could test a protester and

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our guys it's time for happy hour and joining me this evening lauren lyster host of the capital account here on r.t. and comedian maria alexander ted kennedy thanks for coming back. ari let's start with this one story we did it originally what happened you know we've seen a lot of people make videos that don't touch my junk videos of the t.s.a. and then there is the one guy that just got completely naked which i love i told her i totally respect that yeah but then he actually took it to court and there's an update on that to look. really guy went to the airport and he was told decided

to go through the metal detector and had a pat down he said you know what enough is enough you want to make a political statement he was tired of the security it goes too far as you know one of oh boy did yes he got booked. for attempted political speech this is john brennan forty nine years old he was charged with charges though have been dropped. so basically what happened. the judge ruled that it's ok because he was he had indecent exposure charges and the judge said. you can do it that's your freedom of expression i love this judge i love that we have a glimmer of hope came till he got there totalitarian they got to carry on the show and really. we celebrate when somebody does something right in our judicial system and we should because it unfortunately is kind of rare exactly exactly and i think that this sets a great president me so i think if more people just are going naked through t.s.a.

and claiming freedom of speech it could actually be the kind of way they could know for some kind of. fast for her little bit i don't care it's worth it i know you get it could go down or no to the change in what t.s.a. already done like you're so you're like listen i don't care if some sneak in their frontal some people in line along you know you know now i think people get thrown out here like i dare you fondle me naked you're already going to write you're already going to be nagin and you know hero i really was very happy i completely my hero and they were there standing to. dismiss and it's in appeals now so hopefully this will serve as a similar case what i was doing i mean this could be big i think you're right i think of this guy in themselves as being with the first one to do it is the here and now other people joining in but now you just have like models doing that like playboy you know no way you should have the bat is a hard group. since he doesn't do any good anyway i activate some kind of change

because if a bunch of playboy bunnies are going through t.s.a. nay get everybody like yeah bring on this note that if he grows want to take part in the protest i don't know where they will here's self-conscious around the i do not know you're not going to want to go after the playboy bunny goes through t.s.a. naked all right farai. i think. like a vote you should do it yeah you should lee. i know. you know my father would never forgive my. dad do you defend freedom of speech yeah and there you go. ok i'm out of that so i might have a very light who. would be a little too happy about that shake. let's talk ok everybody's a sucker these days right and they will pay you for anything because everything's a fad and everything is spring water bottled somewhere from the himalayas and you

pay too much for it and so i love this because this is a gimmick that this story manhattan's east village is using take a look. at telling new york city tap water back if you present the water to pure. luck. we were taking up water. and were running it through a seven builder and result is watered down with pure molecules or this is one hundred percent pure water. the store by the way is called molecule and they have a twenty five thousand dollars filtering machine that does this and if you leave a treatments reverse osmosis in the seven states process treatment to create i just become a marketing scheme to be one hundred percent what you're supposed to be selling like he's probably taking a cue from whatever fast food company it was that for a while had been join. i remember getting yeah i was like what is it

a selling point to sell what you actually do you know and i am getting this country's all about just say put something on the label you're supposed to sell dreams no you're not supposed to be able to bank on just selling like you're a good woman i mean made by elves is a dream ok yeah these it is something real is unfortunately our dream. and our are products of just to be degraded to horrible level that real beef is a dream that you know really really care workers are actually made of pink slime as we recently learned yet not anymore because that went by the wayside when there was enough outrage so if you get enough outrage against this guy the poor guy's probably can be shut down he's not going to i don't know if there's like in manhattan if there's going to be related people i think they're going to you know sucker is similar to what he was going on but it's people they're never going to get tired of being special ever you know there's a t.s.a. made that it was more of a public thing that i get outraged about and anyway i think i have

a new theory on this just as we go back to story for a moment which is that you should do it like your dad would be probably do it so i wonder if you're going to do it to vote on that we're going to do it or promise no no who would need imo that is you know you should know i mean i both agree to do it and i'll do it. now. i don't know if you want to do it i'll do it with you if we all need to agree to do it and make it happen which airport whichever one we have a good book and i'm going to see a. close. second what they're doing in san francisco. take a look at the new story of the left that russians are going to. hit this tax goes into effect in the bay area it would mean that drivers would be taxed ten cents for each and every mile we drive whether it's to the store school work or wherever this is called the vehicle miles traveled road tax for short and the empty tax. so it's going to stick a g.p.s.

module on every residence car to track the total miles driven and i guess the whole point here is that they think that if they tax you then fewer people will drive it will reduce congestion because traffic is so bad but we both know alone in california after you have a right to drive they can i also drive change it or not if you're going to tag out drive you know then it creates a better bus system a better frankly that's like saying i'm going to tax you for every time you go out the door but i'm going to lock all the doors so you can't go out. and i mean i know i've heard of them should they you know the revenue they've collected the driving tax to better to improve the public transportation are you going to collect the tax in the first place when you have a g.p.s. we was going to have to have one of these g.p.s. things right but like at tax time are they just going to how are they going to basically collect that money while they're going to buy new it would you know yeah they're going to need that actors are getting maybe they'll i don't know but this is wrong on so many levels that is the reliability issue and it's this is

a tax that the burden is on the more the poor i just consider your time i don't know how you have to what i have to commute to work right i mean there was a time when i made very little money and had to commute very far to work that would be much more of a burden of a tax on me then you know in addition to the income tax and everything else i just said it backwards because they say that they're doing it to reduce congestion and promote mass transit and yet they're not actually making the promise is that they will create more systems no one really gets this passes right there's no way i don't know san francisco in front of us pretty early so really we'll see about that they'll. ok would you guys go to a town in texas just because it's called the cavies i wouldn't go to texas i wouldn't but i think if they were going that created this is pretty brilliant it's pretty great i think that we have a clip of him let's take a look duller the founder of bikini's bar and grill says he wants to preserve this little town he plans to retrofit this bus into a bar fix up this old outhouse and preserve this house in state. right so i

apparently. have this guy's appoint themselves the mayor of banker smith texas if when he bought it he tried to walk a lot of it but it's a one horse two acre ghost town yes and yes i know and vote on credit and you've obviously got some serious work to do because you see this building it's going to be hosted crippen place ever needs a bikini so that people will go he said it's going to bring a world class destination and he said he's thrilled to expand the bikini's brand to include town ownership because he has a restaurant chain called he sports for. well under stink about this say what's next for hooters state yeah well i don't know but i think that this is the next like girls gone wild. you know restaurant i think that's been hurt anyone who brand . is going to call themselves a breast run chain restaurant i don't know if i do girls it he does call it a buster on i don't know i don't know that is clever but good for here's the thing

who really goes to texas as a destination for anything i have heard i thought there was a great jericho austin you go there kind of by accident if you're there you look. nice but well i guess we won't be going to banker smith slash katie is that you time soon. i got to wrap it up guys but thanks for joining me tonight that's it for tonight's show thanks for tuning in and make sure they have to make sure that you come back tomorrow you have another financial checkup for you with the lovely lord lister as usual in the meantime don't forget to like the last. on facebook or follow us on twitter at skype or you tube channel and also don't forget the you can now take us on a cool little as well coming up next if this. mission is. going to take three months for charges free. range

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