and our life here is just a gunshot and just women and children are screaming and you know and he had a gas mask on so i can see is to be anything like. a massacre at a colorado movie theater leaves twelve dead dozens more wounded even more questions about what exactly happened and what the shooter's motives were and the nation surrounded by surveillance r t questions of all the security really makes americans any safer. plus we've talked a lot here on r.t. about ways your cyber privacy have been breached by the government but coming up we'll tell you five ways you can take a proactive approach to protecting your freedoms.

and mexico gears up for another round of protests after this month's presidential elections abuse voter fraud and bribes demonstrators are accusing president elect and pena nieto of all these things for you the latest from the so-called mexican spring. it's friday july twentieth five pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wahl and you're watching r t. well one of the deadliest mass shootings and recent u.s. history today a gunman opened fire inside a movie theater in denver killing twelve people and wounding more than fifty others the gunman the alleged gunman you see here twenty four year old james holmes a former medical student before the shooting he threw a gas canister into the packed crowd of moviegoers law enforcement say he had an assault rifle a shotgun and two pistols holmes is now in custody the f.b.i.

trying to investigate the suspects home booked. found it to be booby traps with explosives now we talk a lot about surveillance here and how it affects people's right to privacy and the justification for surveillance whether it's cameras or online the justification is that it's all for safety so in this high end in this day of heightened security and vast resources spent in the name of protecting our safety how does something like this happen to discuss a tragedy earlier i was joined by brian doherty senior editor for reason magazine he's also the author of this book gun control on trial well by reading the stories correctly and have a look at one. in the back or came in with some guarded shooting at people why it escapes me a little bit what sort of surveillance or even what sort of gun laws short of the

magical ability to make everything disappear which we all know can't happen could have prevented this it's a shame almost that we have to talk about the policy of this on a day when this tragedy is resonating in the minds and hearts of the people that that there's no i understand why we do but it is worth remembering that these events and gun murders in general are rare and getting a rarer every year is no matter how much we hear about them in the media and that there isn't any meaningful policy response that can guarantee stopping one from doing something it's awful would do you think a tragic incident like this that was going to feed the demand for stricter gun laws . you know it's good you're going to hear a lot about it in the next forty eight hours but i think the history of the recent major national news gun tragedies including the one at the school in west virginia a few years back in the one that wounded representative giffords last year you hear

a lot of talk but it is not going to lead to actual legislative offerings what's happened with the whole gun control issue in america since the mid ninety's that a nearly every state has severely least in its laws regarding the ability to legally carry weapons and so you have many more americans carrying weapons four million a year in new american buying weapons and yet you're seeing the gun violence rates plummet nearly by over the last twenty years so most americans have learned that there is that this correlation between access it guns and crime and such that more gun control is going to actually solve any social problem so i think you'll hear chatter but i don't think you'll see any actual musical action so you're saying that this and said it won't be enough to prompt to prompt changes in policy brian i mean at what point that how many tragedies need to occur how many stories of mass gun violence do we need to see before we do reach that threshold and people say something does need to change what what people think needs to change as i said the

number of guns in america and it grows enormously every year the number of americans with the legal ability to carry them has grown enormously and yet the number of gun murders is plummeting there simply is no apologies for leash and not going to stop the very rare in when one decides to commit a horrible crime i mean i know when these things happen people want to reach for an answer or they think something can be done there should be done but i'm not sure what can or should be done i mean the world you know is going to say fall and that's wrong the world is not full of these sorts of people the world has a very tiny amount of them and they think. happen very rarely in that line you're using the word rare there and i think it's kind of arguable how you can use that word i mean this just this tragic incident resulted in a dozen lives lost dozens more were shot we had the incident with gabrielle giffords not too too long ago we saw the string of shootings in high schools and to

somebody watching television it doesn't seem like it is that rare i know it doesn't but there must be a good that's the problem with those trying to make policy decisions or come to a conclusion based on the dramatic stories you need to look at this because there are also good for the third time the number of guns circulating in america and the number of americans. increased enormously four million new year nearly every state now has pretty liberal in it for a second amendment laws regarding terri in the last two decades not on the side that won but it's like you're really it's simply not the case that these things are happening more frequently and again i ask what always you solution do you think actually put have prevented it all right i may use the word dramatic our way and as if it's being blown out of proportion but i don't think words can even express the that the horror of what happened yesterday they absolutely cannot and i started off

saying it's unfortunate that we even have a policy discussion on the day when what should really be important would reach in . with people who were victimized and their families but unfortunately that's what the media does we talk about policy and what i'm here to say is there's not really a good reason to be talking about all of the associated with you going to get because there is not a policy solution now and i do understand the second the second amendment rights i mean it's a fundamental right here in the u.s. and you know advocates like yourself are very you know really want to make sure that that right is upheld but i mean in this scenario this gun ban he allegedly he was our. with an assault rifle a shotgun and two pistols i mean and doesn't something need to be done to make sure that these weapons don't get into the hands of mad men well how did we know this man was a madman till he committed with that ak again i ask people who are looking for

a pulse information to come up with one other than waving a hand and having everything disappear from the face of the earth which we know is not going to happen there is no solution to this as far as we understand had no criminal record there with no we don't know or at least i don't in the last hour we don't know how we don't know. which is possible or really which is also very possible. in many cases it doesn't really matter what there was or at any rate we do know that given what we understand by this record there was no reason for anyone to applaud this guy shouldn't be able to be put out there with the now we're with there's a lot of details that are still being sorted out a lot of questions a lot that we don't know and he didn't the to our knowledge he doesn't have a criminal history but i mean he had this arsenal of weapons apparently there's reports that the f.b.i. when they were trying to investigate his home that his house was a booby traps i mean this is pretty sophisticated planning and the alarm bells

somewhere along the way somebody must have seen something to raise these alarm bells i have no idea if that's true and neither do you i don't really want to join the ridiculous game of speculation that's happened with blaming everything from occupy wall with the. video games the lack of christianity the one the insane. decision and again it's a little tricky for me to see how a policy solution or us presuming that someone should have been able to thought this from happening it doesn't seem reasonable to say right so i mean. so you don't think that there needs to be any change in policy whatsoever i mean yes obviously something he was he wasn't mentally there he obviously wasn't you know in a sound state of mind but i mean that he is a madman but he did have the tools to carry out this horrific act well he was evil

you know he was evil he seemed to have a goal he seemed out of the goal of killing a lot of people probably making a lot of news going to do in a very colorful place shows do apparently booby trap his own apartment in a new police would be going through it so this is an evil god i don't think we should really be looking for the mentally ill explanation and shooting guns and gun being knocked out of the hands of evil people you know what are you talking about again no one had any reason to suspect that there was anything wrong with this guy that should have prevented him from legally buy a gun even though also i don't know if he did legally buy the gun i honestly don't know what people who talk about all these solutions are talking about i mean i i'm going to lay this out to you if you're saying that what what do you think could have happened legally to stop this from happening. i mean that's a the the details are still being worked out but me and people that are critics of the say that something needs to be done to make sure that whether it's regulation

you know at the same time protecting the right to bear arms for citizens like yourself that will use the you know for nonviolent methods but also to do something to make sure that people that are that are evil are not able to use these as tools to correct to commit the owner in fact there's not really any way to do that it's we're standard background checks which only work on people who have already committed a criminal if your very first moment in your life on the earth is going to be a mass slaughter with guns i honestly can't imagine what. can stop that but it is worth remembering for those who who just sort of have this sense of sorrow and there are about what happened today. it's how loud it rings in all of our hearts were good reason on the day happened it's not an every day being there early every year in the overall gun murder rate the woman. around. that was dry and

already he's the senior editor for reason magazine and author of the book gun control on trial. well it seems like a struggle to keep our online activities private these days especially after a series of legislation in congress and regulating the internet in one way or another but if there were tools to keep your cyber life private turns out there are plenty of them in the internet privacy trade and they can help protect your privacy and these five areas e-mail file voice chat and traffic now the creator of the software that can help you chat in private joins us now on the depot basically either an idiom. so it's no secret that pretty much everything we do mind can be tracked but people don't have to be powerless to do that. due to the privacy of policies adopted by most of the most popular social networks

and services out there such a space can twitter google it's true that a lot of what we do a lot of destruct and can easily fall into the wrong hands or into the hands of governments that don't necessarily have the right oversight over this kind of information so yeah i think you're right and i think that we're actually done on changing those policies and preserving the privacy of people all such work is done by the electronic frontier foundation and also by programmers projects such as the tor project and this is work that all of us should be supporting now the you are the creator of crypto cat and that is software that you can use so when people chat online that those those chat conversations in fact stay private tell us how that works exactly all it took out is with up location that offers a similar kind of instant messaging like google talk or facebook chat it works inside your browser on your phone but the difference is that crypto cat encrypts all the messages that you send and receive transparently so that when you're

chatting with someone it's just as easy to use but the difference is that the messages are encrypted in such a way that your boss your internet service provider or even critic at itself can see what you're discussing the only person that can read your messages is the person on the other end of the line that you're sending the messages to and we use a transparent open development platform or our software is free open software so that you can know for sure that we're not monitoring your data that was given to us it's impossible to read your messages and so it's an open. court a collaborative community you know funded project and develop a project to combat. the monitoring of conversations online now is this currently available yes of course cryptic has been under development for about a year and three months now critical persian one has been available for the time. reasons you know the poll that was released some more than a year ago and we're now working on caprica version two which will integrate with

other chat and services that you're good sisters google talk and we'll have a whole feature is like for example up on your list and just you know then we're completely done and we're working on that now on hoping to have it done or at least have a public build up really well before the end of the summer now what about an app is that in the works so that people can chat on their phones in private it already works on your phones you can i severely your phones browser but we didn't opt equal the thing is be already have been up in beta for to get a version one but then we started working on version two and we decided to do releasing the oxygen version two was done and we pointless to release them with only a few months until we came up with such a major you know revision that changed a lot of what cryptic out is and how it works ok so the software that you develop crypto cad enables you to chat online in private now what about these other areas of you know things that you can do in the cyber world whether it's you know email your for keeping your traffic on line private voicemail things like that

can you talk more about what is available in those areas that people can use in order to keep their their activities private well of course it's very important for all the software to fit together i mean it's nice to be able to work on something like that to cut the only provides the conversation doesn't provide for example and automated which is why it's important for code to come to be interoperable with things like the tor project and tor available in the tor project or has a piece of software that anonymous has your internet connections makes it's also good makes you also capable to circumvent internet censorship and access websites that with other ways be censored and protects you from traffic analysis and monitoring by governments or other agencies that would have a control over your connections so tor is one very interesting project there is also you can use p.g.p. which is not particularly user. friendly but a very tried and true way to secure your e-mail and send receive encrypted e-mail

messages and there's also been cryptic is not the only solution it's probably the newest encrypted message and solution but there's also been the solutions to just what you are which is going to be a boy in for about ten years now which also integrates with the existing internet messaging clients and so that's another way to have. a group of instant messaging conversations that i think about how fail proof is this technology i mean people that use it are using at primarily because they want to make sure that they are everything that they're doing is private i mean is it fail proof so i've gotten the privilege of calling myself a scientist at age twenty one and i'm going to do so i'm going to accept the responsibility to. know technology is ever feel safe and every single project that seems to. say that the use terms such as you know unbreakable or military grade security all those projects that use those terms are in projects that have

been able to take seriously so respectable projects like the tor project for example and critic out. the goal of my research is to be able to contact people in no no no matter what kind of dangerous situation they're in using an easy and accessible instant messaging platform that's that anyone can use no matter if they're if you're a scientist or you know actor or not so you don't need to be computer savvy and harder to use these types of that's so the question isn't a magic pill you also need to teach those people who aren't incredibly computer savvy about the limitations of the software and about where it is right now and just people sometimes when you give them something to give people software that says encrypted on it they just assume that it's magically protect against any type of cyber attack and i mean there are some governments and some agencies out there who are incredibly. full of resources and people who teach you crack a lot of you know security and so and also i'm targeting software worldwide and so we have to accept that in north america there's

a community of people who produce encryption software but that community is much smaller in say countries like the middle east or other parts of asia so you when developing this kind of software and releasing it there around the world you have to make sure people understand how to use it because it's being developed in the community that's on another continent. and so yeah ok i just want to ask you kind of on the other side of that. do you think that there is this danger that you could be a facilitator for developing this software that would enable shady people to operate and complete secrecy. yes so shady people have been operating under complete secrecy ever since before the advent of government and our government has seemed to believe that the only way that it can. mitigate the risks posed by those people is to invade the privacy of everyone. in one car while being

of privacy invasion and so that's not really worked at all the only thing that is puts. chrissy's in. situations in positions where there is nothing appreciations have been tarnished by this sort of behavior so if you want to. deal with people who are committing dangerous isis terrorists for example and these are legitimately dangerous people then perhaps we should perhaps we should look into as to why society produces people like this and address the problem at the root so such as with education programs or with trying to see trying to address the motivations of those people instead of trying to catch them and lead in stage and thus know not only failing but also implementing the security theater that really just makes everyone feel safe by invading the privacy of everyone and the d m i know that you are is say you created this and we just last year but thank you very

much a very interesting interview there with that a very young computer scientist his name in the name kobe c. has a computer security researcher for crypto cat. well we've all heard about the military industrial complex there but what about the security and dust trail complex turned out taxpayers are spending billions to keep the government secrets artie's abeam are and has more. have you guys ever heard of the information security oversight office well i hadn't either until i came across its two thousand and eleven report outlining just how much u.s. taxpayers are paying to classified government documents a whopping eleven point three six billion dollars stake a look at this graph from one thousand nine hundred five into two thousand government spending on classification was pretty stable starting from three billion dollars to about four and a half billion dollars and in the five years after nine eleven the money spent on

classification rose steadily every year to double that eight billion dollars in the most recent two year period from two thousand and nine until two thousand and eleven the price of classification has skyrocketed from eight a half billion dollars to almost twelve billion dollars that's a twelve percent jump in costs just from two thousand and ten and let's think about this for one second about how much money the federal government has spent on other services in two thousand and eleven just nine point eight billion dollars on child care and early childhood education despite there being a huge job crisis in this country only nine point one billion dollars has been spent on training and employment education for adults and you're probably thinking well yes agencies like the cia and n.s.a. need their documents to be classified to protect america's national security but this classification spending is working entirely outside of the agencies that you would think even need it is because the central intelligence agency the defense intelligence agency the national security agency the national reconnaissance office the national geospatial intelligence agency and the office of the director of

national intelligence are not even included in the eleven point three six billion dollars but you know the part that really puts this on a perspective is the director's statement that accompanies the report about why these costs are so essential he says increasing investment in classification and security measures is both necessary to maintaining the classification system and fundamental to the principles of transparency participation and collaboration so. classifying for transparency ha well george orwell would be proud abby martin r.t. washington mexico's very sing for another round of protest against president elect and pena nieto protesters mainly from these student group yo soy dados believe pena nieto bought the election and the media tens of thousands of demonstrators are expected to take to the streets in cities across mexico this sunday and a protest called mega march among the targets televisa one of one of the t.v.

stations accused of censoring the student protest of lattimer charney is a proud member of that student movement and he joined me earlier to talk about sunday's march take a listen. we've been organizing this march along. the moment we started with the protest this march date for the twenty second of this month is intended to be our march that includes also the states of the north and the south this is an intent for a national march against the imposition of opinion at all and as a candidate of the of the revolutionary institutional party in here in mexico we also have a these demands against the media in specific this. system

of television of television has taken because we consider that the democratic logic of the media here in mexico is not accomplished by these two televisions i mean the system is corrupted by this group polic power and the only power favored this candidate and that is why we fight against these hours in specific and are you saying the media you know that these protests have erupted earlier this month have they covered them at all. no well we have a like a differentiated situation with the media we have one. of these media that do cover us and say what we decide in our lives and we have this other part of the media that fight again and that to

elaborate or establishes some. things that are not true because obviously our interests are different there's so the problem here with the media is that they do not show the five they are they obviously. diminish things that have a harpooning and they obviously attack are saying that we are getting right to call or that we are getting violent or that we are linking to on their movements that have protests that are violent or something that's obviously being used to target the legitimacy of the movement you seem to lack of information that a bunch of people in the contrie. know that another thing that you are protesting is that there's alleged voter fraud to what extent do you think that happened and what proof do you have of that. yes this is

a very interesting question we were working in a commission that is called the revision or vigilance commission in the day of the electoral. and date the this journal and we were working also in this room that was called room in which we were making coverage of all the regularities we were. happened we have among all the regular it is something like one thousand and one hundred irregularities that contains violence in the whole station as we have disappearance of electoral materiel we have even two persons that died that day is related obviously with the election we have

a boat. selling a boat or buying a boat from from the parties and we are also another and democratic candidates celebrated that day we have all these reports that is going to be delivered to the electoral institutions in particular this institution that is the prosecution institution for electoral crimes and to the electoral tribunal we can see there that these facts country beauty the idea that this election was not clean that this was a violent election and that these irregularities are tantamount to consider that. the solution was not democratic as the institutions say these was established by the beatles commission jester. it is going to look through the

electoral institutions. and that was a lot of mere charney he was a member of yo soy ten day you dos movement that's going to do it for this hour of the news but stick around the alona show is coming up at the top of the hour tonight all and i will sit down with one of the founding members of the bradley manning support network and talk about the battle for greater transparency in the private first class his case as well as the setbacks manning's defense team face for earlier this week and dad in this week's edition of the financial checkup capital account host lauren lyster will break down top economic stories around the world including one about the fact that only thirty percent of the dot rules have gone into effect two years after the law was passed that is all new at the top of the hour but that's going to do it for now from one of the stories we covered check out our you tube channel you tube dot com slash.