freeboard video for your media project free media gogarty dot com. and here is this gun show the gun shot just women and children are screaming and you know and he had a gas mask on so i can see is to be anything like that. a massacre at a colorado movie theater leaves twelve dead dozens more wounded and even more questions over what exactly happened and what the shooter of the shooter his motives were and the nation surrounded by surveillance are two questions of all the security really makes americans any safer. plus we've talked a lot here on r.t. about ways that your cyber privacy has been breached by the government coming up we'll tell you five ways you can take a proactive approach to protecting your online rights. and it's no question that certain information needs to remain classified for the sake of national security

but you'll never believe how much it costs to keep those secret states coming up i'll tell you how much it costs to protect u.s. interests. it's friday july twentieth seven pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching our t.v. . one of the deadliest mass shootings in recent u.s. history today a gunman opened fire inside a movie theater in denver killing twelve people and wounding more than fifty others the gunman you see here twenty four year old james holmes a former medical student before shooting he threw a gas canister into the packed crowded movie go it go as law enforcement say he had assault rifle a shotgun and two pistols holmes is now in custody of the f.b.i. trying to investigate the suspects home but found it to be booby trapped with

explosives now we talk a lot about surveillance here and how it affects people's rights to privacy and the justification for surveillance whether it's cameras or online is for safety so in this day of heightened security in the vast resources spent in the name of protecting our secure safety how does something like this happen to discuss this tragedy earlier i was joined by brian doherty he's the senior editor for reason magazine he's also the author of this book gun control on trial. well by her hitting the stories correctly it happened because one lunatic kicked in the back door but it or came in with some guns started shooting at people why it escapes me a little bit what sort of surveillance or even what sort of gun laws short of the magical ability to make every gun disappear which we all know can't happen could have prevented this it's a shame almost that we have to talk about the policy of this on the day when this

tragedy is resonating in the minds and hearts of the people the fact is now i understand why we do but it is worth remembering that these events and gun murders in general are rare and getting a rarer every year is no matter how much we hear about them in the media and that there isn't any meaningful policy response that can guarantee stopping one evil being the chick from doing something it's awful what do you think a tragic incident like this that was going to feed the demand for stricter gun laws . you know what you're going to hear a lot about it in the next forty eight hours but i think the history of the recent major national news gun tragedies including the one at the school in west virginia a few years back in the one that that wounded representative giffords last year you hear a lot of talk but it is not going to lead to actual legislative offerings what's happened with the whole gun control issue in america since the mid ninety's that a nearly every state has severely least in its laws regarding the ability to

legally carry weapons so you have many more americans carrying weapons four million a year in new american buying weapons and yet you're seeing that the gun violence rates plummet nearly by over the last twenty years so most americans have learned that there is that correlation between access it guns and crime and such that more gun control is going to actually solve any social problem so i think you'll hear chatter but i don't think you'll see any actual musical action so you're saying that this and that it won't be enough to prompt to prompt changes in policy brian i mean at what point that how many tragedies need to occur how many stories of mass gun violence do we need to see before we do reach that threshold and people say something does need to change what what people think needs to change as i said the number of guns in america and it grows enormously every year the number of americans with the legal ability to carry them has grown enormously and yet the

number of gun murders is plummeting there simply is no apologies the reaction not going to stop very rare and when one decides it made a horrible crime i mean i know when these things happen people want to reach for an answer or they think something can be done there should be done but i'm not sure what can or should be done i mean the world you know is going to say fall and that's wrong the world is not full of these sorts of people the world has a very tiny amount of them and the thing. happen very rarely is that why you're using the word rare there and i think it's kind of arguable how you can use that word i mean this just this tragic incident resulted in a dozen lives lost dozens more were shot we had the incident with gabrielle giffords not too too long ago we saw the string of shootings in high schools and to somebody watching television it doesn't seem like it is that rare i know it doesn't but there must be a good that's the problem with those trying to make policy decisions or come to

a terrible conclusion based on the dramatic stories that you need to look at this is just say that's where the third time the number of guns circulating in america and the number of americans. increased enormously four million new year nearly every state now has a pretty liberal for a second amendment laws regarding terri in the last two decades on the side as well but it's like you're really it's simply not the case that these things are happening more frequently and again i ask what always you solution you think actually put have prevented it all right i may use the word dramatic our way and as if it's being blown out of proportion but i don't think words can even express the that the horror of what happened yesterday they absolutely cannot and i started off saying it's unfortunate that we even have a policy discussion on the day when what should really be important to reach in.

with people who are victimized in their families but unfortunately that's what the media does we talk about policy what i'm here to say is there's not really a good reason to be talking about all of the associated with you going to get because there is not a policy solution now and i do understand second the second amendment rights i mean it's a fundamental right here in the u.s. and you know advocates like yourself are very you know really want to make sure that that right is upheld but i mean in this scenario this gun ban he allegedly he was our. and with an assault rifle a shotgun and two pistols i mean it doesn't something need to be done to make sure that these weapons don't get into the hands of mad men well how did we know this man was a madman till he committed with that ak again i ask people who are looking for a false information to come up with one other than waving a hand and having every bomb disappear from the face of the earth which we know it's not going to happen there is no solution that. as far as we understand has no

criminal record there with no we don't know or at least i don't in the last hour we don't know how we don't know if people were leave which is possible or illegally which is also very possible. in many cases it doesn't really matter what the laws or at any rate we do know that given what we understand by the record there was no reason for anyone to applaud this guy shouldn't be able to prove that there was no way with there's a lot of details that are still being sorted out a lot of questions a lot that we don't know and he didn't to our knowledge he doesn't have a criminal history but i mean he had this arsenal of weapons apparently there's reports that the f.b.i. when they were trying to investigate his home that his house with booby traps i mean this is pretty sophisticated planning and the alarm bells somewhere along the way somebody must have seen something to raise these alarm bells i have no idea if

that's true and neither do you i don't really want to join the ridiculous game of speculation that's happened but they got blamed everything from occupy wall that they already against the lack of christianity one the insane. decision and again it's a little tricky for me to see how a policy solution or us presuming that someone should have been able to stop this from happening it doesn't seem reasonable to say right so i mean. so you don't think that there needs to be any change in policy whatsoever i mean yes obviously something he was he wasn't mentally there he obviously wasn't you know in this sound state of mind but i mean that he he is a madman but he did have the tools to carry out this horrific act well he was evil you know he was evil he seemed to have a goal it seemed out of a goal of killing a lot of people probably making a lot of news going to do it in a very colorful place shows do apparently booby trap his own apartment in the new

police would be going through it so this is an evil god i don't think we should really be looking for the mentally ill and shooting guns and gun being knocked out of the hands of evil people you know what are you talking about again no one had any reason to suspect that there was anything wrong with this guy that should have prevented him from legally buy a gun even though also i don't know if he did legally buy the gun i honestly don't know what people who talk about all these solutions are talking about i mean i i mean the latest out to you if you're saying that what what do you think could have happened legally to stop this from happening. i mean that's the details are still being worked out but i mean that people that are critics of say that something needs to be done to make sure that whether it's regulation you know at the same time protecting the right to bear arms for citizens like yourself that will use the you know for nonviolent methods but also to do something to make sure that people

that are that are evil are not able to use these as tools to correct to commit the honorific act there's not really any way to do that it's standard background checks which only work on people who have already committed a criminal act if your very first moment in your life on the earth is going to be a mass slaughter with guns i honestly can't imagine what. can stop that but it is worth remembering for those who who just sort of have this deep sense of sorrow and there are about what happened today the fight how loud it rains in all of our hearts for good reason on the day i happen not and every day being there early every year in the overall gun murder rate the woman. around. all right you know we spend a lot of i don't want to ask you we spend a lot of billions of dollars overseas you know on these wars overseas and it when something like this happens it kind of begs this question are we falling short of

investing here at home protecting our citizens here at home. well we surely should not be wasting all the money we're wasting on all these there were a few words but again i'm not sure what sort of policing or security but we could have stopped it maybe you know a better law. way through i mean we're pretty well but we let me and i. really i think a medical error with there is some sort of security so we should not stop every single. given to people and i think believing that that's the case. you've got right right brian a very interesting take there thank you so much for coming on the show that was brian dorothy he's the senior editor for reason magazine and author of the book gun control on trial. also ahead on our team from monitoring your e-mails to secretly

turning on your computer it seems another threat to your on line privacy comes out on a daily basis up next we'll tell you how to keep your conversations away from those trying. to climb out of american power continues. things are so bad. might actually be time revolution. and it turns out that a popular drinker starbucks has a surprising him radio. welcome

to the capital account mr. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through it's already been made who can you trust no one. is you know view with the global machinery which is where we had a state controlled capitalism it's called sasha's when nobody dares to ask we do r t question more. r t is the state run english speaking russian channel it's kind of like.

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well seems like a struggle to keep our online activities private these days especially after a series of legislation in congress and that regulating. the internet in one way or another but what if there were tools to keep your cyber life private turns out there are plenty of them in the internet privacy trade and they can help protect your privacy in these five areas their e-mail file voice chat and traffic of the creator of the software that can help you chat in private nadeem kobe say join me a little earlier today and he told me why people don't have to be powerless and protecting their cyber privacy. due to the privacy of policies adopted by most of the most popular social networks and services out there such a space can twitter google it's true that a lot of what we do a lot of mistrust and can easily fall into the wrong hands or into the hands of governments that don't necessarily have the right oversight over this kind of

information so yeah i think you're right and i think that were should be done on changing those policies and preserving the privacy of people online such work is done by the electronic frontier foundation and also by programmers projects such as the tor project and this is work that all of us should be supporting now the you are the creator of crypto cat and that is software that you can use so when people chat online that those those chat conversations in fact stay private tell us how that works exactly all it took out is with up location that offers a similar kind of instant messaging like google talk or facebook chat it works inside your browser on your phone but the difference is that crypto cat encrypts all the messages that you send and receive transparency so that when you're chatting with someone it's just as easy to use but the difference is that the messages are encrypted in such a way that your boss your internet service provider or you can critic out itself can see what you're discussing the only person that can read your messages is the

person on the other end of the line that you're sending the messages to and we use a transparent open development platform or our software is free open software so that you can know for sure that we're not monitoring your data that was given to us it's impossible to read your messages and so it's an open. kind of collaborative community you know funded project and develop a project to combat. the monitoring of conversations online now is this currently available yes of course you have to get has been under development for about a year and three months now version one has been available for the time. you know the other was released some more than a year ago and we're now working on caprica version two which will integrate with other child and services that your sister's google talk and lot of cool features like for example up on your list and just you know then we're completely working on that now on hoping to have it done or at least some of only

a bit of it will be for the end of the summer now what about an app is that in the works so that people can chat on their phones in private it already works on your phones you can i said your phone's browser but we didn't up with equal the thing is we already had an investor for to get a version one and then we started working on version two and we decided to do releasing the os the bridging two was done and we pointless to release them with only a few months until we came up with such a major you know revision that changed a lot of what cryptic out is and how it works ok it so the software that you develop crypto cat enables you to chat on line in private now what about these other areas of you know things that you can do in the cyber world whether it's you know email your keeping your traffic on line private voicemail things like that can you talk more about what is available in those areas that people can use in order to keep their their activities private well of course

it's very important for all the software to fit together i mean it's nice to be able to work on something like that to cut the only provides you could the conversation doesn't provide for example and automated which is why it's important for her to come to be interoperable with things like the tor project and and tor available to tor project or has a piece of software that anonymous is your internet connections this is also good makes you also capable to circumvent internet censorship and access web sites that with other ways be censored and protects you from traffic analysis and monitoring by governments or other agencies that would have a control over your connections so tor is one very interesting product there is also you can use p.g.p. which is not particularly user. friendly but a very tried and true way to secure your e-mail and send receive encrypted e-mail messages and there's also been cryptic is not the only solution it's probably the newest encrypted message solution but there's also been the solutions to just what you are which is going to be a boy in for about ten years now which also integrates with the existing internet

messaging clients and so that's another way to. encrypt the instant messaging convolutions editing about how fail proof is this technology i mean people that use it are using it primarily because they want to make sure that they are everything that they're doing is private i mean is it fail proof so i've gotten the privilege of calling myself a scientist at age twenty one and i'm going to do so i'm going to accept the responsibility to. know technology is ever feel safe and every single project that seems to. say that the use terms such as you know unbreakable or military grade security all those projects that use those terms aren't projects that have been able to take seriously so respectable projects like the tor project for example and cryptic out. the goal of my research is to be able to contact people know no matter what kind of dangerous situation they're in using an easy and

accessible instant messaging platform that's the anyone can use no matter if they're if you're a scientist or you know her or not so you don't need to be computer savvy and harder to use the types that's so in question isn't a magic pill you also need to teach those people who aren't incredibly computer savvy about the limitations of the software and about where it is right now and just people sometimes when you give them something to give people software that says encrypted on it they just assume that it's magically protect against any type of cyber attack and i mean there are some governments and some agencies out there who are incredibly. full of resources and people who teach you crack a lot of you know security and so and also i'm targeting the software world wide and so we have to accept in north america there's a community of people who produce encryption software but that community is much smaller in countries like the middle east or other parts of asia so you when developing this kind of software and releasing it there around the world you have

to make sure people understand how to use it because it's developed in the community that's on another continent. and so. ok i just want to ask you kind of on the other side of that. do you think that there is this danger that you could be a facilitator for developing this software that would enable shady people to operate and complete secrecy. yes so will she people have been operating under complete secrecy ever since before the advent of government and the government has seemed to believe that the in the way that it can. mitigate the risks posed by those people is to invade the privacy of everyone. in in one car one being of privacy invasion and so that's not really worked at all the only thing that is puts the proceeds in. a situations in positions where there is an awful

appreciations have been tarnished by this sort of behavior so if we want to. deal with people who are committing dangerous isis terrorists for example and these are legitimately dangerous people then perhaps we should we perhaps we should look into as to why society produces people like this and address the problem at the root so such as education programs or we're. trying to see trying to address the motivations of those people instead of trying to catch them and lead in stage and thus know not only failing but also implementing the security theater that really just makes everyone feel safe by invading the privacy of everyone. that wasn't even kobe say his a computer security researcher for crypto cat. i have all heard about the military industrial complex but what about the security and s.q.l. complex turns out taxpayers are spending billions to keep government secret safe

r.t.s. abby martin has more. have you guys ever heard of the information security oversight office well i hadn't either until i came across its two thousand and eleven report outlining just how much u.s. taxpayers are paying to classified government documents a whopping eleven point three six billion dollars stake a look at this graph from one thousand nine hundred five until two thousand government spending on classification was pretty stable starting from three billion dollars to about four and a half billion dollars and in the five years after nine eleven the money spent on classification rose steadily every year to double that eight billion dollars for the most recent two year period from two thousand and nine until two thousand and eleven the price of classification has skyrocketed from eight a half billion dollars to almost twelve billion dollars that's a twelve percent jump in costs just from two thousand and ten and let's think about this for one second about how much money the federal government has spent on other services in two thousand and eleven just nine point eight billion dollars on child

care and early childhood education despite there being a huge job crisis in this country only nine point one billion dollars has been spent on training and employment education for adults and you're probably thinking well yes agencies like the cia and n.s.a. need their documents to be classified to protect america's national security but this classification spending is working entirely outside of the agencies that you would think even need it is because the central intelligence agency the defense intelligence agency the national security agency the national reconnaissance office the national geospatial intelligence agency and the office of the director of national intelligence are not even included in the eleven point three six billion dollars but you know the part that really puts this on a perspective is the director's statement that accompanies the report about why these costs are so essential he says increasing investment in classification and security measures is both necessary to maintaining the classification system and fundamental to the principles of transparency participation and collaboration so.

classifying for transparency ha well george orwell would be proud abby martin are to washington. puzzle action season is in full swing negative attack ads are heating up so how do voters feel about this campaign tactic laurie harford has take that question to the streets of the big apple. this is the year of important elections the world around and many of them involve dirty negative campaigning are you ok with that this week let's talk about that john of kennywood never got to look the. today with his lifestyle a womanising enormous yes absolutely i've still is that a good thing that politicians go there or is it better we just don't know it's very don't know because it's going to do with being a politician i don't think we have to mix politics with personal. life yet but if

it helps someone get elected is that ok. i don't think so if one one candidate is doing towards another i think that's a little unfair but if both are going back and forth out of which they normally are i think it's completely fair it's all a part of the game in politics and i think that it's a fair fair where point is that like that and now and. now this is crazy. they are all racists more calm or do they stick to the issues yes so do you feel like more gets done that way yeah i think so it's not all about the personal lives and who's left with whom a lot of crap is the public so dumb that we don't recognise it's all spin and fluff why are we demanding more i don't think we're dumb we're just complacent we want to be taken care of we don't really care we think it's going to be ok we really don't feel like we have. a voice how is it in denmark well not us bad and.

well yes tendency. they lost ideas and tried to get power as many of the political parties and i think yeah when power is on the table anything goes right how does it change. take our money take out power but i mean it's it's it's something that's just kind of just part of how it works unfortunately so i don't think there's a fairy tale way that i would rather hear about their policies and their records as politicians and public servants if one politician stuck to that. while the other one was throwing mud who do you think would win. i like to think that the guy that stuck to his record of the woman who stuck to her record when i'm voting for her. whether or not you think it's ok for polity.