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protests turned violent when police forces took matters into their own hands and then tried to cover up their tracks by reportedly offering to buy the incriminating cell phone video from witnesses coming up an update on the protests in anaheim. silence is golden and that may just be about the only thing journalists have these days the war on whistleblowers now targets reporters will explore the implications of a muzzled media. and then later if you're planning on catching a flight in the near future don't forget to remove your shoes and belts and secure your bank account information on your smartphone why because the t.s.a. may go through your most private information when you travel we'll tell you how.
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it's tuesday july eighth july eighth at eight pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching artsy. topping this hour a community in california outraged and calling for an f.b.i. investigation into police this after an unarmed man was shot dead by police later neighbors started to protest the police violence and authorities fired back we showed you this disturbing video yesterday but we're playing it again because the powerful pictures speak for themselves. well you can see here they're shooting rubber bullets and unleashed
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a dog which ran directly at a woman holding her baby among other bystanders witnesses seem to be afraid for their lives now the community is demanding answers and calling for the officers responsible to be held accountable for an update joanne sosa an activist with take back anaheim joined me just a little earlier. let me see. evelyn that's one of the great mysteries as an act of mr graham if you're awful mainly in the back then he asked me where she should work which she just missed americans murdered by that was to partners she described all nameless running down the streets right pasture with her and some other people that also took some chairs and at least had shot him and he went down in the late so i guess you went down there and they came up to him and shot them in the back of the heart and spirit i am off. to the most they actually were told to get behind the trees that are going to have asked several people to
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get how much they wanted to sell or. what the kitchen is for and most of their nonsense and i know we can. i was sorry to interrupt you there seems like there is i am hearing a lot of action behind you there i know that anaheim there's a lot of people that are outraged about the way things have gone down over there can you talk about some of the protests that are going on absolutely there are several protests here i mean a couple of them i don't know the protests against the killings you have folks here from time to organizations americans here are right to occupy two r s three it used to communicate with americans live better than you have alone so meet those here too many organizations who also have a teamsters squirrel or our strike will form a protest because they're protesting because they want jobs for one hundred fifty million dollars that was given away taxes they're going to run the residents of and that's where all are against we believe that government should have been served for
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the areas there are distance aren't sheryl's with the folks. programs with cheers that we've been trying to do in. the midst of this gravity series on the gender to vote for but we've been trying to drowned out by three year old construction that are blocked no way to get in right now but the point is another forty four million dollars given these. when we're out those the industry folks are outraged we need an independent investigation so i'm very happy that mayor to alter that old galleries or to go out and our chief of police is also very open top and since we do not want to say that all police are back that's not true problems in this area yes with gangs yes we do we have been feeding and we have talked about them since we do like a member that this is years and years and layers of those areas being ignored by the sort of council and by the this is swords and sorcery of our every sort of disney factor to all move the big businesses and to the sorting ariel's the money
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that's needed for serious if it comes and it do and what do we know about the police officers that are accused in this case. right now we don't know too much if there's a force assembled best of a sure thing out there for us this want to let out there what we know is it's a stupid american wants turns bills it does want it or they don't care take care to force it once the internet in the first edition to go charge is to turn instead of helping him and this problem of police brutality a lot of it now captured because of this recent incident is this something that you say is a long running problem is that it's a myth systematic problem to what extent is this an issue over there in anaheim i have to tell you that several killings from the beginning of the year that needed to be addressed with issues but we've also buried a lot of innocent people which you know to do gang violence also or fortune is
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something ordered i was in for most. going to most voted so we actually want for use with those presidents to try and bring change to the system right now it's not graphic you know in the law another thing that protesters are trying to bring to the forefront of this is the fact that this happened in a community that is predominantly consists of menorah minorities are you saying you know beyond police brutality that racial profiling has also been a long running problem in anaheim care what i'm going to tell you is that our current chief of police well sure absolutely does not believe in your looks that you carry your not so he looks at actions so he it's not him. you cannot be responsible we don't know what you saw officers did we only know from the witnesses so those officers at the three committed their crime they need to be held accountable to the extent of the law like anybody else in their part is what i'm
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saying and lastly quickly just want to ask you what exactly are your demands what do you hope to happen next. as these protests carry out. their. vision of them on or at the buildings with the exactions want to change the system and so they want to just do you suppose you are screaming for it and you know you hear that it's four percent spanish. visitation plenty of people here and we also are asking for the vote right now we are staring to vote for the. people at all or in quota these issues in voter i mean hundred billion dollar deals that are done in the dark. it's a lot more armine. joanne thanks so much for coming on the show that was your when sosa and activist with take it back anaheim. well it's like the case is moving
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forward for a former cia official turned whistleblower a judge has ruled in the prosecution's favor in the case against john kerry aku he is the man that made the practice of waterboarding in secret prisons public he's now accused of leaking the names of covert operatives to journalists meanwhile congress is on a mission to silence journalists from ever publishing classified information they want to make doing so a crime under the espionage act so what does this all mean about the freedom of the press in the u.s. to discuss this earlier i was joined by jeff flynn radek director for national security and human rights and the government accountability project does one is also the author of the book you see there the whistleblower and the american taliban i first asked her about john kerry aka and if this is an attempt by the government to retaliate against him for embarrassing the agency. yes i think the defense is right because he was the first cia agent to reveal that that
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torture was occurring and the cia was conducting it and that it was an actual program not mere and proposition and that waterboarding is torture so i think that's what's really behind this and he didn't we lose all three motions basically on the bill of particulars to get more information about the indictment they told him it was without prejudice and he could come back if he didn't get enough information and discovery and the motion for a selective and didn't victim prosecution was denied but i think it serves a purpose of the judge said she found it provocative and informative and the motion to dismiss about the unconstitutionality of the statute she didn't rule on yet in fact she said she kind of telegraphed that she would be denying it but said she wanted to write an opinion which is really significant because the seminal of the
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already on the espionage act comes from the eastern district of virginia where kiriakou is being tried and carry aco really is just one of many little blowers that are kind have been kind of coming under fire recently and i guess members of congress are kind of taking notice because recently they have decided that or at least some of some lawmakers are on this mission to prosecute journalists that publish classified information on this is the wake of the leak of an article in the new york times where they publish that kill list a lot of information getting out about u.s. attacks against iran and so now they're saying all this there it's becoming public and they are not liking it they want to silence these journalists that make these things public i mean what do you make about this i mean aren't journalists protected under the first amendment to publish seven. really i mean there is a freedom of the press it's
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a fundamental part of the first amendment and i've been saying for years that the war on whistleblowers which most of these people charged with espionage under the espionage act with mishandling classified information are whistleblowers this is really a war on journalists and no one seemed to believe that until the last couple of days congress about a month ago kind of caught on to the fact that there's a huge hypocrisy between the government leaking to the top level high level classified information including sources and methods with abandon while cracking down on people like thomas drake and john kiriakou who were trying to expose fraud waste abuse or it like galaxy now some in congress are taking that next step on the slippery slope that i keep morning about of saying we should go after the
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journalists to do under the espionage act and they've suggested that for everyone from julian asuncion to the new york times and yes the the first amendment supposedly protects freedom of the press that would be the defense to raise but using the espionage act has been a very heavy handed. tool in the government's arsenal against whistleblowers and. to wrap the press up and that is just taking an even further crazy step that we should mention that congress has said that they want to prosecute journalists that release information that would compromise national security and on the surface there i mean that seems like something that makes sense because you know why would anyone want to put information out there that would you know compromise national security or would people what people would put people's lives. and danger but i mean could this i mean you had mentioned
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a slippery slope earlier on i mean what how how is that even defined and could ultimately be used as an excuse to go after journalists i think i think well part of the problem is that everything these days is defined as interger old to national security and they made that accusation against drake that his disclosures had harmed soldiers in the field when it turned out that he had disclosed nothing classified at all. so that's a danger and then another again i mean really journalists if anything give a lot of deference to the government including veto power over a number of their articles if they really think that there is some national security interest in danger and only this week as far as i know mcclatchy i believe . only a couple of papers came out and said they're not going to get pre-approval or veto authority to the government anymore. but they've given a lot of deference i mean they sat on the warrantless wiretapping story for year
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and a half which was one of the biggest scandals of the bush administration. so i find this all to be a lot of a lot of hype and photo worry and false worries and fear mongering and again such a broad you could argue anything is going to be detrimental to national security but if it can it contributes to the public debate and public discourse in our country in the public's right to know in conversations we have about drones. or we have about. actions we're taking in other countries that most people would be completely appalled about. we should be having that conversation and we should also mention that we tried to obtain a statement from kerry aku but unfortunately we were told that he is not allowed to speak because he is under the gag order. so that's there's no gag order so
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much as the fact that when you're a criminal defendant anything you say could inadvertently create impeachable information were being used against you basically and so most criminal defendants are well advised not to talk while they're proceeding is underway all right i do want to turn now to another whistleblower an update to what julian is on he is still held in lockdown over there at the ecuadorian embassy in london trying to hear back from the authorities over there in ecuador as to whether or not he has asylum will be granted but we did get an exclusive response from a spokesperson of julian assange and today wanted to read that response states quote in the meantime evidence of an imminent extradition demand from the united states are mounting it is known that the f.b.i. has gathered more than forty two thousand documents and in attempt to prosecute
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julian and others associated the wiki leaks and subpoenas issued by the secret grand jury there are references to the espionage act of one hundred seventeen which carries the death penalty there are more indications that the obama administration has the intention to continue to persecute persecution of wiki leaks for its journalistic activities it is all in line with the overall attempt by the administration to silence and punish severely all whistleblowers so i mean this kind of goes along with a saunders for years the entire time i mean he doesn't want to be extra extradited to sweden he's facing questions not even charges but at this point this question about the sexual allegations about his ultimate fear is that is being sent here to the u.s. . and it seems like that seems to be the case i think there's a well founded fear. or that he has he has a well under asylum criteria he has
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a well founded fear of political persecution number one for political opinions he has number two and that third party governments are unwilling or unable to stop that and in fact he has said he would be glad to go to sweden in answer questions if he could get as sharon says that he would not be extradited to the u.s. and neither sweden nor the u.s. has been willing to provide those insurances assurances and as you mentioned there have been persistent rumors that not only are there a grand jury's out on songe but maybe a secret indictment as well. and that that's the first thing that would happen and so i think it's good that the ecuadorian embassy is taking this seriously and the fact that they didn't rule immediately and say oh we're not going to hear it we're not going to entertain this is can only be a good sign for
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a songe that they are taking it seriously right you know and the thing with us on his own have been kind of demonize for what he's done for making all these cables and documents public our air publishing base that publishing these documents basically but i mean how is that different from the new york times who had published this kill list and these other leaks that we've come out i mean they're also playing the role as a journalist doing their job trying to expose the truth i mean what is the difference in both situations they are publishing classified information that came from from leaks from whistleblowers there's not a significant difference the difference is of degree not kind wiki leaks released more information and they're going to say that they the new york times and other newspapers have carefully cold cold. through what they published but if we get
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leaks goes down or it's prosecuted under the espionage act the new york times is next the l.a. times is next that's why you had the l.a. times do an op ed total editorial flip flop yesterday where is before they were they were against the crackdown on alleges leakers and now they're like oh let that proceed but don't go after journalists because they're finally realizing that if we get leaks is vulnerable under the espionage act they're next than ever been to a free pre or to times every one of those reprinted anything that wiki leaks released would be equally as vulnerable yeah and evelyn lastly i just want to ask you you know big leaks are big big leak small leaks that this has been a recurring thing throughout previous administrations why are we seeing this attempt to to silence them or or to crack down. leaks now well i think after nine eleven there was this secrecy as secrecy regime that was
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quite in place by president bush and normally everyone thinks the pendulum will swing back. after a national security crisis like nine eleven but instead obama despite pledges of transparency has expanded the secrecy regime and that includes a huge clamp down on information and i think this is part of it i think it's a backdoor way to create an official secrets act ultimately which we've lived without in this country for more than two hundred years a very interesting javelin thank you so much for coming on the show that was you doesn't radek she is the director for national security and human rights and director of the government accountability project well you better watch what you tweet because big brother could be watching it turns out that most are class for user data made to the social media giant are from the government so just what does
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this mean for your online privacy are the correspondent reena pour in iowa has a story. in the land of social media users tweet tag friend upload and share information at any given moment in the land of the free what americans post online can and will be used against them. according to twitter of the nearly twelve hundred government requests for user data filed in the first half of this year nearly eighty percent came from the u.s. government the michael message company says it complied with seventy five percent of user data washington requested social media in general twitter and facebook being prime examples of that are a part of an ever increasingly invasive police state in the united states it's not just about surveillance and about tracking and monitoring this is the way in which they're consolidating control in the past year u.s. judges have forced twitter to turn over private or deleted data on users as part of
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investigations related to wiki leaks war occupy wall street. the ruling according to reports allows prosecutors access to tweets and additional information stored by twitter including the e-mail and i p address of a user it's more about more than just invasion of privacy it's about destroying the concept of privacy online at a recent conference called how girls on planet earth former national security agent william binney detailed the demise of u.s. privacy protection which he says had been carried out by washington for more than a decade it must have been right for. more than a week after. they decided to begin to spy on you with this company binney spent thirty seven years working for the n.s.a. before resigning to blow the whistle on what he calls the creation of an orwellian
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state your vote for kerry. that was the reason. he. at the height of his career when he served as technical director for n.s.a.'s group a branch that was reportedly responsible for eavesdropping on the world today he estimates that the n.s.a. has secretly compiled and stored more than twenty trillion files of e-mails phone calls and other data belonging to u.s. citizens when it comes to social media he says even users with the strictest security settings are not protected the reality of that is that that's not private at all if the companies don't have the government doesn't have it so either of them have it or they share with the unobstructed sharing of information is what's made half a billion people flock to social media sites like twitter but missing from the terms of agreement is the monitoring that can be taking place as citizens are bursting
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their short messages into the virtual world. new york let's hear say has come under fire lately for hands on searches that some say just go too far and beyond body searches homeland security now says they have a right to search your smartphone so where should the t.s.a. draw the law and i asked our two web producer and your blake. yes and no it really depends on which way you want to look at it and which way you want to look at which way the government wants to look at it because we all know in the end if the t.s.a. says something that means department homeland security thing something and that needs to be really hard to fight it a lot of people like mr chorley just mentioned are trying to fight it but the way breaks down is like this if you are crossing through a t.s.a. checkpoint for a domestic flight t.s.a. cannot explicitly take your phone and check through your phone what they can do though what they are supposed to do is just a check you for any sort of like terrorism related memorabilia you can go through
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there or paraphernalia that i'm sorry they can go through and try to find anywhere devices or explosives noting that they can do in the reason that they're trying to dismiss mr corbett's lawsuit is they say that they can look for things that prove that you're trying to be someone else different ways of presenting yourself false identification fall for his license passport the stuff like that so if they can do that yes they can use the argument that they will go ahead and they will check your phone to see oh is this really you who are these e-mails you're sending to or these addresses from yourself is this your e-mail address linked in there are these your contacts he could give you that is that's what's being brought up right now the legality or for that now however if you're flying in or out of the united states and you go through a checkpoint at a port of entry not just the t.s.a. but the department of homeland security they can and they will take anything that you have any sort of electronic device they can take it with them without asking for your consent before fourth amendment does not apply here they can take it they can search it they can scan it they can keep it to they can transfer all the files
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they can give it to someone else and they can do that for as long as they deem necessary and also they won't even let you if they feel like it's a threat to national security you don't even get to watch them do that but yeah they can do a hell of a lot of stuff right now and this is particularly of and gave because i mean with smartphones i mean you have like your whole life on there your e-mail your app you know where you. everything and this wealth of information so in this modern day of our gadgets i mean this has wider implications you know if we were just hearing today they are going to go earlier today governor romney was saying that today these terrible leaks coming out all these whistleblowers they're all leaks that are coming out of the white house and he's blaming the obama administration what's stopping someone from the executive branch of flying out having their phones scanned and then the t.s.a. leaking out that that information i'm not saying that's the case it seems even farfetched for me however that it's entirely possible like they can go through
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there and they can take all of your stuff there is actually a really serious part of this is that they don't need to have necessarily a suspicion that you're doing anything wrong there was a case they started passing this two thousand and nine they said that they don't need a suspicion do this two thousand and ten mr david house of the bradley manning support network he was flying back from mexico and he was stopped by the t.s.a. they let him go crofton spoke with v.h.s. on the part of homeland security said hold on a second we would ask you some questions they didn't ask him anything about terrorism or blowing up bombs in buildings and stuff like that they wanted to know about the bradley manning support network and they want to know about wiki leaks nothing to do with you know what you would expect would endanger an entire airplane full of people they took him and they took his phone they took his u.s.b. drives they went through his computer they did all that and they did not need to have any suspicion if you're going into a port of entry from an international crossing they can do that all right and i
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mean especially in the wake of all these incidents with the p.s.a. i mean that guy that basically stripped down live you know to show its freedom of speech and fight against which was what is what or not the terrorism law has i guess there is a glimmer of hope there apparently if that's legal well then you know he's kind of paving the way for him for a change at least as real that bill clinton. got. is chang to do but i mean for those that don't really want to go that route so i mean where does it end i mean if you don't want to you know strip down naked and in response in opposition i mean do you just comply and let these things stand back and happen or where does it end ali it was just to take the bus that's what i do most of my travelling that's more relaxed and just. a great deal of if you want to travel across the no no no one thing that you should do the love you if you actually nervous about not nervous but if you're concerned about someone that you don't want to going through here personal information you can encrypt it you can go and you can put
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a password in every major offering system let you encrypt the information you have on a computer or a phone encrypted you are forced to give them a password does it mean you're not going to get your stuff back maybe but it's a safe way of going about it but i mean really the big thing here is i mean i don't want to be banned from traveling i love travelling area especially on the bus but it's it's always best to just just play it safe if they're already t.s.a. is already putting their hands god knows where you know you don't really want to take your computer to that was ours he loved producer andrew blake and that is going to do it for tonight but for more of the stories we cover check out our you tube channel it's youtube dot com slash r c america will post all of our interviews in fall you can also check out our web site at our teeth dot com slash usa and you can also follow me on twitter at liz wall for now have a great night.

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