tv [untitled] July 27, 2012 9:30pm-10:00pm EDT
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he'd be a better president because he's a white guy anglo-saxon heritage all that the entire city of london is upset with him the merest stand in front of sixty thousand people just going off and and he's got a public dustup with the prime minister in fact here's how the london mayor and prime minister david cameron how they reacted to this because they were. talking during the world you don't yet know about all the preparations we've got to get not being ready even though seven years here is a guy who's a guy call me who only wants to know. whether we're ready he wants to know whether we're ready we will holding gave it one of the busiest bustling cities anywhere in the world because it's easier if you hold. to get up i saw like city. the press corps in britain is calling him worse than sarah palin so i've actually speculated a lot of this program in the past about mitt romney being a psychopath or at least
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a sociopath some of his policies that i think are genuinely destructive now i got it you know from this program he's not he's just a spoiled rich kid who has never operated outside the bubble this is the only explanation i can come up with mark here first of all he was a softball question the answer from brian williams this is a softball question he should've been able to get out of the park with his experience and bond with the people there in england i was with the city of atlanta police department during the one thousand nine hundred six olympics i saw the preparations people take it very personally a city invest itself in the olympics but i don't think you'll lose a lot of votes over this because the folks over there don't vote here but the bottom line here is going in the debates i think the debates are going to be crucial in this election and it shows he can't pick what the softballs are he does doesn't seem to be a good campaigner he's been surprisingly bad to me don't you think that probably what happened i mean if we want to try and get inside its head is that he had been the guy who ran the salt lake city olympics so when the question was asked of him he immediately kind of defaulted to his position of the guy running the olympics.
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and of course as the guy in charge he was offering a critique why is that but that's what i mean it's a softball question you know there are no real so questions for mitt romney more i mean i almost feel bad for the guy which is kind of crazy but i do here's someone who has taken every position both sides of the position because he's been told to by his advisors because he was a governor of massachusetts he had to act like a moderate now we try to appeal the tea party in the conservative movement conservative party has shifted so part of the right he's got appeal to them so he's got to change just change all of his positions so whenever a question comes at him he's always thinking like oh my god i don't know how to answer this what's going to happen to this and it produces these gaffes luckily you know the election is pretty far away so people probably won't remember this particular one but i guarantee there's going to be more to come it's going to be as you're sketched out well you know i mean the whole thing is just so silly i mean the fact that we're sitting here analyzing whether or not his analysis wondered whether or not that was the of police and army major on one of our major allies in the world heritage foundation all he said he was going to be better because of his
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anglo-saxon heritage. he didn't actually say that you're right so i'm not going to attribute that to him is. as bad as what we're alleging self but you know he it seems to me like he's tackling all these things as a businessman you know sits down all let me lay out all these reasons why i think the olympics will be good and i think they'll be bad or there might be foggy questions on the rise of the olympics things that one no one cares about except for boris johnson to get quite the speech to the town and then polled the two which i found odd hold the town on whether or not they were ready for the olympics which i'm a little if that's an accurate way to measure whether or not the town's ready for the olympics security he was i just it was grand scheme. so bottom line we'll see we'll see where this goes we've got those before us and israel. in the middle east . ok it's been one week since the massive. colorado and president obama
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gave some of his toughest remarks yet about this last night before forty seven's belong in the hands of soldiers not the hands of criminals. on the battlefield not on the streets of our cities. and senators of fact chuck schumer took to the floor of the senate today saying at some length you know back a decade decade and a half ago we the democrats in the senate didn't actually seem to know the difference and he kind of came out and said this didn't know the difference between respecting the second amendment and not and gun control was like about fuzzy borders and now it's time to have clear borders and define you know what's a military weapon and what's not and let's get the military weapons out here your former cop doesn't make sense yeah i mean you know i'm a former cop i'm a libertarian i am very wary of gun control i think the second amendment the right of the people means the same thing the second is the first or the fourth it's the people i think it's an individual right what i don't understand is how this has
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become just an all or nothing debate you know and in the constitutional sense i know you don't like to do judicial review but when you look at you to show review every right there's not that there's no absolute right so the question would be whether a gun law could pass strict scrutiny highlevel scrutiny for a compelling government interest i don't understand why we can't just have a conversation about it no rights absolute it's the second amendment you don't offend it by passing laws that might affect it but again i'm a libertarian i'm not for all gun laws but at the constitutional sense why are we having the discussion are there laws that could pass strict scrutiny show a compelling government need and preserve the fundamental underlying second amendment aren't there adam i mean is the first amendment arguably the greatest right the right to free speech is restricted in one hundred different ways i mean it is you know try to mean try taking bob jokes to somebody that he has say. i'll even though i would still run back to the constitution anymore at this point i mean at this. a lot of what we do as a governor i find you know if you are believe that the constitution says what it says the. interpret strictly while the laws contradict the constitution already but
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we're not we're not litigating a real litigation or deal litigating any of a lot of words we're talking specifically about gun control here yes do you not agree with the president that military style weapons should be in the hands of soldiers and police officers and that honey rifles and pistols for self-protection should be in the hands of fighters and people who want self-protection and that there should be a line between the two not i don't think there should be a line i mean i'm not out here advocating that you're just like seriously i'm not and you're in favor of shoulder fired missiles against always the other guy in maryland was just arrested today with twenty five guns forty boxes of ammunition. i don't know what the purposes of a k forty seven is what the purposes of twenty five guns what the purpose is of r.p.g. or anything like that i don't think that's a slippery slope argument either i mean you know republicans want to say well i have a right to self-defense well twenty five guns are you who are you defend yourself
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the government while you have no chance against the government the government is cruise missiles the government has drones if you the cops well that's you know you're not going to get a shoot out with cops and when it's a false argument and i think people have have this die hard commitment to the second amendment or to guns and they're losing sight of the grave damage it's causing to the nation really where we already have defined boundaries but we do we do have to find boundaries but we can sit here and say let's ban this let's ban that we ban things all the time in these bands don't work what we're talking they don't do actually you don't know because you you will not go buy in here gas and this guy deployed tear gas and call in the indy in the movie theater and that was illegal that's already illegal so why in the in the movie theater result would he use that i mean it was not to handicap these people and then shoot them so we're going to even people as illegal to yes at the point so you can ban shooting people and guess what people still get shot but make the. and those things unavailable you
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know i mean the fact that they were there in the favorable areas of the active market in the united states right now on air fifteen's is not an active market in the united states and shoulder fired missiles your gas i don't even know where to go you can buy tear gas legally in the united states it's illegal to use it where do you go to where do you go if you do supply stores acme the acme tear gas on the web i mean you know it's and i think you can buy tear gas yeah i've been in police supply stores in different places it may not be easy and maybe some regulation but i think you can get it you can buy cheerios you buy say as good as your base that we don't know where this stuff is it's not readily available out there you also we can talk about you know there's a difference between a being criminally available and not criminally avail but there is also everything that he acquired that this shooter and including the teargas he acquired legally shouldn't there be a deadline where we say that's just as illegal as a shoulder fired single stair missile but he still does he still pulled the trigger it was weapons and kill people which was an illegal activity so we're still talking about is whether or not people are going to get hurt this guy's already proven or not he should have had
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a weapon like that he would have got the weapon regardless you can't even compare our nation to other nations when it comes to gun violence so either you i mean i guess you're making the argument is there something in our culture that just makes us far more violent than every other another in what i'm arguing is that which i would agree no there is not in our country last time you said the thing about canada canadians have more guns so obviously access alone isn't the problem with canadians have more guns it follows that they have more access they have more guns but they have less crime there is something it's a mental health issue you can't any assault weapons ok i understand there's a living but there's a lot of access to weapons that can a high powered rifles and all but they have a very low gun crime and it may be because the difference on handguns i'm just not sure but the bottom line is there's something about this culture and the we also have to i'm not blaming the entire culture is i don't think most people are violent but we've got to take a look at there are other places with the same access this is also a mental health issue and we cannot lose track of that and why why use it and use it every time this is brought up for debate people say well i need to protect myself why is it that we feel like we have to protect ourselves from each other by arming ourselves to the teeth but other news. you don't see the same i need
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a gun to protect my so i call you do in those countries that are the most unstable oddly enough in the in the in the greatest dictatorship that saddam hussein's iraq everybody had in a cabin in the bedroom you know you outlaw guns and only outlaws you know a gun is i mean you know it's the same like no you saddam's they were yeah but i mean they were they were everybody had a k forty seven it was legal bore as in sweden nobody has a god. really. i think i think there's a great kernel of truth in all of these arguments earlier this week moving along to two capital one bank they are having a major bad week right now earlier this week the elizabeth warren's new she birth is the consumer financial protection bureau busted them they were ordered to pay one hundred sixty five million dollars in refunds. now the d.o.j. has ordered the bank to pay twelve million dollars to members of the military that they were ripping off in this doesn't go over well four thousand troops illegally for foreclosed on by this bank you know back in the old days when corporations committed crimes against the people we had this thing called the corporate death
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penalty in the as late as the eight hundred eighty s. on average two thousand companies a year in the united states were dissolved their assets were sold off at auction and in many cases their stockholders were screwed isn't it time to bring back the corporate death penalty out of no. you don't ever want to see corporation i would rather see corporations fail or you know save the human death penalty no i'm not favor of any sort of human death penalty right do you think that do you think that the shooter in colorado should be subject to the been able to ok so you're not part of the death penalty or get death but you know what a corporation dies it's. as if they have a trouble get my head around this. you're oppose ok so i'm opposed to humans being killed by the government ok ok but you're not. but you know when you talk about do you make it out of the company now ok companies should be put out of business by consumers willingly leaving that company and we have we have just a little less than just a. because i want to we have we have corporations that are killing people i mean
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let's face it lots of if you look at chemical companies or oil companies that are polluting rivers whole towns getting plants or i subscribe to the belief that's been put forward by people like chris hedges that we have corporate capitalism that's going to kill us all and the way we prevent that is we put in place penalties and we put consequences for businesses that aren't operating the public interest anymore and that's one way to do it well of dodd frank got a lot of credit this week but also frank was one of those things good for some big business bad for somebody business is good for some target and wal-mart love it they lobby dick durbin to get it because the way that the banks would be restricted on retail as far as that no i don't think we should have the corporate death penalty i think that the laws will take care of the can but it will make it so not profitable to be in business if that's the case but you got to remember too if you're talking about i'd very much against a federal law doing this because they're still there chartered state so you know i was saying everybody you just have to if it's a state law i don't agree with the jolly rockefeller definitely not as a federal law and he's ok more rubble after the break.
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well imagine the big picture rumble on the panels and i marc harrold sam sax adam bitly let's get back to it chick fil a these comments over the hateful speech coming out of the family that owns that are the you know one of the patriarchs of the family it's been revealed now that the kathy family which owns chick fil a has donated over three million dollars to anti-gay groups like the family research council both the cities of chicago and boston and chick fil a you're not welcome in our city. sam you got a problem this. time but yeah i do. you know i don't necessarily agree with the comments that. owner made or what he believes but to suggest that a company which is a franchise you know we're talking about jewish people most of the people that own these companies can't do business because of what some guy atlanta believes so
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that's a stark if the if the head of chick fil a had said something about jews or muslims would it be appropriate for a city to say no we don't want you here well i don't you know the politicians in the city can say that they're not welcome here they don't agree as far as them actually taking you know steps like zoning or trying to keep them out i disagree with that i don't agree with these comments either i am for gay marriage i don't agree with these comments i think they have the right to make them and i don't think the city should shut them out but again i think this is what i know one time somebody said you know what boycott is work and i couldn't come up with one i think this is one of the ways i've been saying that i've been saying that speech the way you spend money where you don't spend money can be expressive and i think that's what we're talking about here and i'm all for people not going or going because they disagree or agree with these comments i think we have to say he's taking a principled stand mark's right there's a difference between saying something actually denying permits i think once that starts happening you could go down a road in which something is something you know on the other hand if you're denying
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permits. based on people discriminating against people in ways that are against if not because it was acted are protected from discrimination. as of this moment right but against either the law or the spirit of the law there are categories of people who are protected and if we were to blow up the defense of marriage act doma it's possible that well and we need to get there i think as a country the olympics kicked off tonight in the romneys have a personal interest in this year's event as they're running their tax deductible course refuse rafalca rafalca felt whatever anybody. in the goober elitist sport of dressage simple question does anyone know what is. that we're spelling it's worth because we looked and we did we googled it in the backroom before we came i didn't know what it was you know this is to me another one of those things where what we're trying to do and they have a right to do this i understand it helps his wife's health condition but this is thanks and look out of touch this is like john kerry in the wind sailing this is
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one of those things that he doesn't you know i don't win anything for he just doesn't seem to understand that he's a candidate and people draw a lot of conclusions with the things he does i don't think you do anything wrong but politically i don't think it's smart it's i think it's a sport that wealthy people engage in to get seventy seven thousand dollar tax breaks on their horses that they can write off or just something that the wrong to do it for that reason i think. on a low is hope that was his plan to fix the economy. that's what it's going to be like it is for spell so low because i don't know it's almost going to steelers are going to. say i'm at it thanks last year i think years. we all know the republicans around the country are passing voter suppression id
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laws to kick million. ns of democrats off the rolls before november a slot reporter alex cites fall broke today former republican chairman republican party chairman in florida jim greer now admits that officials in his party are engaging in voter suppression efforts to quote keep blacks from voting and quote but since republicans can't come out and say that they're instead justifying their efforts by arguing that voter fraud is rampant in fact i had a guest on my show argue the voter fraud is so our ages that even pets like dogs and cats and maybe goldfish are walking into voting booths and casting ballots. we've got pets that are voting how many people have seriously you've had a you've had a pet show up in the polls in pennsylvania. that's correct who haven't had it why are they not in jail. why i don't really know who owned the pet and why they're not in jail they probably said b. c. the reason they're not in jail is because it didn't happen voter fraud is virtually
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non existant it happens less often than people dying because their t.v.'s fell on top of them but in those few cases where voter fraud actually does happen seems like it's mostly republicans committed meet john and right republican candidate for supervisor in an all county arizona and rogers dropped out of the race after accusations surfaced that his companion whom he had lived with for. her death in two thousand and seven has been voting from the grave for the five years since her death. and wright claims he's dropping out of the race for other reasons and denies any role in illegally voting on behalf of his former companion seems fishy though and then there's an coulter one of the most shrill hateful conservative voices on television as reported by brad log in both two thousand and two and two thousand and four coulter illegally cast absentee ballots in connecticut despite her actually being a resident of and living in new york that's voter fraud just like it was voter
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fraud when former republican presidential candidate jon huntsman voted in two thousand and ten claiming his governor's mansion in utah as his fish as his official address even though he was no longer governor and no longer lived in the mansion just like it was voter fraud when indiana's republican secretary of state charlie white the top election fish official in the state was found guilty of several felony charges like lying on voter registration forms voting in the wrong precincts and submitting false balance. the one i'm most interested in hearing is the explanation from none other than republican mitt romney who likely committed voter fraud back in two thousand and ten when he voted for scott brown in massachusetts by claiming he lived in son's unfinished basement so either quarter billionaire mitt romney who owned mansions in california new hampshire but not in massachusetts was sleeping in his son's unfinished basement without his butler maid or chauffeur all pretty unlikely or he committed voter fraud and should face five
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years in jail and a ten thousand dollars fine so which is admit yes voter fraud rarely happens but when it does republicans seem to always be behind it so instead of punishing millions of minorities students seniors and low income americans with voter suppression id laws people who don't actually commit voter fraud we should go after the people who do commit voter fraud from now on let's make prominent republicans present three forms of i.d. plus proof of an address and a d.n.a. sample just prove who they really are and that they are who they say they are how else can we protect the integrity of our elections right. that's it for tonight's show but before we go let me introduce you to david a singer songwriter and activist based in chapel hill north carolina and author of the children's book white flower which deals with the issue of racism david thanks for joining us and. why have you been.
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in the south lamb little late in the night sky. the fire from the church burning down. when the sun comes up again wade in black men stand and stare at the soot on the ground. the result of their weapons in this some in their street and they could add the word with this so on. but there's strength in their blows against hatred. keep thinking. man. see. it's just. a message for. future. you. got
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level. of me. and. get an energy. out of. the camera and away. get it. done let. again and. that's great david thanks so much for being with us tonight on three great songs great to have you with us and that's it for the big picture tonight for more information on the stories we've covered visit our website to tom hartman dot com free speech dot org and. check out our two you tube channels there are links at tom
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