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guys it is time for tonight's tool time a war that's going to a loud mouth blog with a few skeletons in their closet the average heard of the washington free beacon we're not alone and the web site is the laughing stock of the d.c. media scene it does little else patrol founded by republicans the beacon was created in january to counter thing progresses trenchant analysis the thing is it does it just offers ridiculous stories top dog was sensational as headlines take a look at some other news today here they are blasting new jersey's democratic congressman bill pascrell they're claiming that he has ties to mohammad kodnani and a mom allegedly tied to hamas allegedly is a key word however that's missing in this headline by the way but the way the
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reports i guess that it sounds scary and so therefore it is beyond doubt is an example of a democratic congressman teaming up with a terrorist is newt gingrich's theory about secular atheist islam isn't actually coming to fruition no not even close denies the allegations he once even told his parishioners to help the f.b.i. after nine eleven he's got rabbis priests prosecutors defending him so it's not surprising that chris christie himself defended the mom just yesterday but the beacon include that there article that a rising star republican presidential hopeful has ties to a hamas terrorist nope because that would interfere with their smear democrats at all costs editorial policy now just take a look at other kinds of journalism that they put out there here's one of their shrill reporters trolling democrats at an obama fundraiser. do you think she's real . i would say that kid has
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a lot of nerve but really he's just embarrassing himself the beacon is actually proud of that crap so it's no surprise that they've attacked us but of course it's not on substance it's just calling our show a propaganda they denounced you in a songe calling him a gorilla denouncing his nasir la interview oh yeah right nothing more gorilla like than interviewing actually newsworthy international figure they also denounced lorne wilkerson lawrence wilkerson for appearing on this show and pointing out the violence committed by both sides in syria and here they're attacking lawrence korb for arguing the intervention in syria really probably isn't the best idea let's just take a look at what pissed them off so much shall we. not quite sure who the rebels are who we would be would be be protecting. you know what you are it's one thing to say ok let's and they are probably you willing to you know ground troops to follow up at all unlikely should we be the ones that are sending airpower if there were no i said it's your duty you have actual community i mean and this is not an american
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problem it's a problem that impacts the arab league and other countries in europe. well actually mulling through military and diplomatic consequences what shameless propaganda thanks for pointing that out for you beacon as if anyone actually wanted hard core republican thoughts on intervention because they're pretty damn obvious so that's why this joke of a blog attacks our credibility because they have not they don't focus on content they cherry pick phrases they use buzz words they portray people they don't agree with his big scary foreigners well i guess they must've been frothing at the mouth when they saw this exposé according to frequent guest of the show they themselves have been shilling for the taiwanese military the leader reported yesterday the blogs founder former g.o.p. staffer michael goldfarb also works for a lobbying group paid one hundred eighty thousand dollars to provide advice and consulting services to the government of taiwan now the beacon also just happens to denounce anti lawmakers who oppose military aid to taiwan and they slander them as
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pro china activists delicious irony their right makes me wonder what other connections they might have but the point is it doesn't even matter really matter the content of their website is just so awful so poorly researched so misleading it's borderline libel really nobody needs to dig up ties to discredit the beacon they do a marvelous job of doing it themselves so it's just funny to me that all their fear mongering their name calling could very easily be applied to them as well i mean c'mon freebie can take a little look in the mirror so first screaming about alleged ties of people they disagree with while failing to disclose their own financial links to ensures that they cheer for the washington free beacon wins tonight's two time award. our guide time for our last break of the evening but when we come back and the gratian of this week's fireside friday topic will have another dose of happy hour for you one group solution to bullying we have the picked up came from israel and take her away
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on the discuss that and more. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for like you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know what i'm charging welcome to the big picture. those stores in here before going global that's not exactly my role.
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to tonight's fireside. one of the things we've seen over the last two years is a spate of strict immigration laws being cross to cross the country from arizona to alabama and beyond and the effects far have been negative for the state's not only of immigrants fled out of fear but the local economies have suffered as well think about the state of georgia who have bad money went down the drain because there was nobody there to do the agricultural labor so there's a fairly new initiative that's being employed in certain cities that's taking a completely opposite approach baltimore for example they are welcoming immigrant
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populations with open arms a mere stephanie rawlings blake she issued an order this march prohibiting police and social agencies from asking anybody about their immigration status and according to the washington post she told latinos in particular that she's counting on them to help the city gain ten thousand more residents and baltimore isn't the only places doing it either philadelphia is trying to attract more immigrants are called go detroit they're all doing some of the same now some of these initiatives include special language programs programs to help immigrants start small businesses help them get driver's licenses talk about a difference right from states that encourage policies to open the doors towards racism with papers please dial laws now the thing is that we do have to take this with a grain of salt if not these cities are welcoming immigrants with open arms because they simply have good hearts and are so accepting unfortunate things don't work that way they are getting something out of it a lot of cities across the country have dwindling populations the cities that used to be major manufacturing centers specifically and so these cities they need people
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so that they can continue to grow so they can become attractive destinations for businesses and for workers and of course so they can get federal funding but would you rather provide incentives create programs to help people. play a role contribute to the city's economy instead of just drive them away and it's really hard to tell at this moment how much of the immigrant populations that are being lobbied to come are documented or undocumented and i think there's a danger of the more undocumented labor you bring in the more opportunity there will be for businesses to take advantage of getting away with paying lower wages and again some say any job can be better than no job the point here is of these types of initiatives by no means solve our need for comprehensive immigration reform there shouldn't be this gray area we shouldn't have a population of some fourteen to fifteen million people living as second class human beings i do think that initiatives like this can be a good start cities can benefit families can benefit and we can start moving down the right path of solving the immigration problem of adapting to the new realities
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of the largest growing demographics of hispanics and asians because we should stop resisting change and instead embrace it. hi guys it is time for happy hour and joining me this evening our team producer jenny ciro and jake brewer keep strategy officer at business strategy hey guys here's your seem like a really lively happy meal and we get started early i'm sorry to say you're already without me i've already been away out here no i know but just been a long one very long with just give me a second and a lot of the issues right here ok. all right
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a lympics right opening ceremonies were pretty high is it actually on as we speak i guess we're getting like are delayed version they won't get the layover ok so we'll see it in a few hours but as always there are a lot of olympic stories to do and well one of the things that we see unfortunately every year and i think we've seen a lot of it especially now. this time around in london is of course there's always the people have to go home because they get caught with doping to look. in sports of advances in detection drug use remains a constant factor in the sport to time tour de france winner alberto contador perhaps the most high profile athlete to be hit recently with a bomb for doping pulling him out of this summer's games. all right so here's kind of a different perspective and. this is comes for oxford a bioethicist julian savulescu and so he basically he was speaking with spiegel spiegel online and he thinks that it's you know we shouldn't have being in sports
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of course but that it's unrealistic to think that the way the system works now is actually going to work because then you have teams competing you have the richer teams maybe can get their hands on different kinds of medications but i would whatever the drug czar is it easier to shield and so he says we have to go for the second best option which is having an open market for doping so you know it's transparency it's you know there's going to be money flowing through anyway as long as it's disclosed and there isn't exactly i mean already we're i mean i hate i hate to say because i'm a very big sports fan but we're already working within a system that is very unequal i mean we all love the stories of the underdogs i know i do but it's getting inherently difficult for those athletes to really thrive so if you think about it if they had any. if they had an opportunity to really just you know to succeed and no matter what the cost that they take it and they do take it and those monetary gains are very i mean they're big so let's be honest this is
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going to happen anyway so why not i don't i don't mean i can we disagree with you guys on this and because it's not just a matter. of course you have the agreed with you know you have to be there when all it is that arise yes obviously but i think the first of these are people's lives that you're playing with right i mean the you know certainly these are certain experimental new drugs that they're coming up with and i don't think if you just create this kind of free for all market i mean look at what happened on wall street when you say there. you know i have that are just going to sell correct so i don't think they. go ahead do whatever you want. whatever i don't mind is not saying do whatever you want he's actually. we advocating for a very systematic approach to it so a safe systematic approach let's see the limits that you can carry he that it's going to be safe if you just make whenever you see anybody actually arguing is that you're holding back like the evolution of human beings you know if you think about you know the idea of
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a prosthetic limb one direction i'm going to stronger than actually write that we're getting pretty close to that what he's actually saying is that medicine is advancing fast enough that by not allowing us to make human beings better with drugs you're actually stopping us from moving forward as a society the resources of the disease are you going to have better we make them live longer with drugs all the time but i guess maybe i'm just you know he'll. be able to fix i just want to believe that if it were really like your for the goal or another goal for the goal i you know i have a personal attachment to. the end so like i supporting just going on about it was. you know yeah that's not a very big so still most of your what actually makes me very sad as a cyclist is that contador now with him plus lance plus pretty much every one of the last fourteen years all but one have basically turns in a sham you don't even get me started. so lisa olympics are kicking about that's
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really i mean that's really that is pressing it even if it's holding us back as the human race to put you to back your idea of the olympics that's right for them pure ok will actually live on to our other olympic story real quick is that you know it costs a lot of money to be in a lot. either way and so here to be one that is going to continue in the story and there is nothing good about it except for like the forty you spend swimming and then when that's you know if you way you win i had well so they were it's great to get a live in anybody these days because you get so many stories to me and whatnot sponsorships and you can make a whole lot of money now back in the day didn't used to be that way but so this little clip looking. why do this for an olympic swimmer so in lessons twenty dollars a class this is just regular not competitive swim club membership fifteen hundred three thousand dollars a year food fifty bucks a day equipment five hundred dollars travel all competitions four thousand dollars a trip. that's three to four per year personal trainers fifty dollars
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a session sports psychologist one hundred dollars enough money to get to the olympic games hundred dollars not to mention five million other things to driving to and to get it and that's it and think about it that's if you are in a high profile sports and that is if you have any good chances then yes you might make a profit on one but if not you are pretty much i mean that's just going for broke essential you know parents that are going for broke and so often i don't know i grew you know i spent a lot of time at the figure skating rink when i was younger brother used to coach and at that point i just remember i felt like there were a lot of parents out there that were trying to you know they were there with their own unfulfilled dreams and so you could just tell that some of these kids they hated going to figure skating every single day and the parents were sat there and. threw their money away and so you know you have to be if you pass the genovese of
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the summer olympics because you actually in track and field of ticket more than any other place you look at most of the other sports even swimming which is it doesn't cost actually that much money comparisons on linux skiing or figure skating in some cases where there's ring time and you actually have to have a very high bar for what allows you to do the sport but track and field is one of the few sports we can actually see folks who are not affluent whose parents were not able to help them become an olympian along the way succeed and that's one of my favorite parts of what's coming up is that you know you do have this tremendous sacrifices not just the athletes their families their communities everybody else and being able to kind of watch that come to fruition in the summer games is pretty sweet and i just got so excited about i want to be eliminated oh my god. starting. let's move on to something else. figure skating that's where we got it was never figured out you were on if you want to go and then because i don't see any. figure skating you know ok moving on yeah i'm with you. on
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that worst of the olympics are not being shown on this year. c.n.n. they've been doing it really really poorly lately they're like yeah it's unfortunate worst ratings in more than twenty years and i think you know it's bad when when this guy calls you out on it. many people do not think it was authentic his mother was not him but there were many other things that came out and frankly if you would report it accurately i think you'd probably get better ratings than you're getting which are pretty small. out while by the donald yeah yeah so today. jim walton president of c.n.n. or i think the last ten years or so now say he's going to be leaving the company at the end of the year so the company new the new leader who brings a different perspective different experiences and a new plan. i'll just say red eye which is
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a show on fox has higher ratings than c.n.n. primetime that is well read i must say though is also entertaining but you know writing that i really want to show whatever but it's out at three am on a three am and it's beating the seven and eight pm shows on c.n.n. i do think c.n.n. made the grave mistake in today's media market of trying to genuinely report fair and balanced objective facts are the best they could i disagree because there's actually a market for that now you can if you do it well but they're not and that's what you do like when you're going to internet because you want real news and not just i'm sorry but you know we we have the t.v.'s on all over often you know because you have to monitor what's going on everywhere. you go c.n.n. just does so much of the like celebrity stuff every morning. so it just i don't understand why i don't yes i mean i was a national disaster though you are yet right i agree i completely agree that is the
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first line but i really do hate then you turn to seattle and i'm going to watch this so i don't actually national national national natural disaster anderson cooper is going to be there i'm going to getting through the right i'm going to do taking up children children. with this case is going to. be a photo so i don't know how he does that. because he's a ten. that's why that's what that's why do you think he got pushed out i mean it this way of kind of like do you gotta go i mean leave it there going yeah yes they're going to have you know that at the end of the year but that's my guess but i think it's very they're looking for some new management i mean you can see it's. a change and ari i'm curious to see what you think about this story nothing good comes out of it here already at o'hare do organization and it's called the little baby face the nation and take a look at this clip. the nonprofit organization offers free plastic surgery for
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children like nadia were bullied because of their physical appearance and can't afford an operation. this is terrible ok i really mixed emotions about this because on one hand if you have something that is just ruining your life and you find it so debilitating it's nice that there's a charity that could help but then you're totally teaching these kids the wrong values because you're saying if you're getting bullied just have plastic on you know you go away i saw this plays this morning and i had a meeting like you know that i saw this play out this morning and i was with the other producers and we all i was watching this is terrible are you why is this this girl is fine she looks like her ears and her little big fat teenager and she's still awkward as well and also you're so i don't really want her to say i want to know my god i wish you hadn't see it because you're a me everyone. exactly i think it's terrible i generally think it's terrible i think children need to learn to adjust no matter what their what they've got going
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on now there are certain things if you have like a you know like there's the operation smile which i think is a good time to get reconstructive plastic surgery essentially but it's because of real deformities that you know a child can have that effect many many things just get in your ears or a little nose curve or whatever else it's just it's so ridiculous it actually does teach the exact wrong thing and it's the kind of thing that really is looked at a lot of people start to get on board with and i don't know that you know this is a charity by the way was a everyone we cared for doing this and already happened because you always have like the rich kids and the high school and the parents will pay for them to get no yobs and boob jobs you know there's your answer saying all your friends all of you can fix that now yeah the other charity it's and i can write it off of my taxes but i do it. all right this is i don't have a clip for. copyright. but this comes from like the. you know it's really. actually you know
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this is actually it is you know. it is done from a computer analysis of nearly half a million songs recorded between one nine hundred fifty five and two thousand and ten and so it was reported in the nature scientific report that pop music has gotten louder and less original by now but we need to just got it yeah exactly a study no i mean i don't listen to the radio anymore because of that i just put it that way it is terrible there's a great graphic that went around probably a week and a half ago is one of those things that you know everyone is posting on facebook and i had. lyrics to one of her currently very popular songs and is literally six words repeated over and over and over again to the whole song next to me and rhapsody which was one of the most popular songs about thirty years ago and it's got the same time just as catching the pretty but i mean that very much like you're upset really talking about truly brilliant i mean this is practically opera for. at least
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the talented but yes i totally agree with that language i mean the production. has to write those six words that's the other piece one writer freddie mercury to six writers for producers for six words repeated over and over but you know much money so much money right around to make so much money for the lyrics these days just they they i mean you call me maybe right oh my god just now all of you all of you know now i dare you not to have that in your head buried with right now i think i've been right now as things have right now which is you just have to go right now as you speak you're seeing i you know it. just you know i'm just like that i can't stop now and i guess you know. if you would have the number we ought to got all confused and my heart would fear cantor eric cantor if you think you know. the money it's off this bachmann story just will not go away but it's because people keep defending her like newt gingrich and now eric cantor take
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a look. at this woman bachmann was out alive. you know again it does not square with this well you know i think that if you if you read some of the reports. i have covered the story i think that her concern was about the security of the country. the security of the country i think has ties to the muslim brotherhood yeah of course i have no words i think if you care about is education. i mean what ok fine i'm not in the case of you know i mean it's horrible and it's a i think the country would be more secure if michele bachmann wasn't an elected official agreed agreed and on that note i had actually been on a solid six weeks of my life without hearing the name mashal bachmann and it was a happier six there was a heavy users because she was rightly i don't know use a car the gift that keeps on giving here and then you know it was on the air and rick santorum well she was getting what they were looking to find her multiple gifts and now we're stuck with mitt romney the boring guy who actually did face and
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it was going to be buried you know i'm just waiting for it if you put it on with those two i think you have like a value of gifts that he's going to get three i just thought of three if that is the internet gift little faces that you imagine. i got out of it i'm going to thank you for joining me tonight yes thank you guys that is it for tonight's show make sure you come back on monday for our last show ever and greenwald and firedoglake jane hamsher will be joining us and meantime don't forget to like the show on facebook on twitter you tube you can watch it on hulu and coming up next is the news. emission and free accreditation free transport charges free. range month free. free. to tide free.
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