were. there the images that made a movement infamous new york's finest squaring off with occupy wall street protesters and the violence that ensued coming up we'll tell you about a new report that says the n.y.p.d. violated of basic human rights in its crackdown against those protesters. will be. the outrage in anaheim spills into a ninth day hundreds of protesters rally against police brutality all this in retaliation to a string of officer involved shooting at our latest poll fornia our survey. was

nearly ten years and trillions of dollars later the war in iraq is still graining the u.s. economy as well as the patience of the iraqi people but with the amount of money taxpayers spend they expect results have we'll find out what results have come out of our reconstruction efforts in the country. good evening it's monday july thirtieth seven pm in washington d.c. i'm christine you're watching our city. well it's been more than ten months since the occupy wall street movement began and for the last eight months or so a couple of top law schools in the country have been looking in depth of one aspect of that movement the police response we'll talk about some of their findings in a moment but luckily back ourselves some of those t.v. pictures that came out in those first weeks video like this.

this was the reaction by the new york police department back in those early weeks of occupy wall street it seems strange for many people seeing that this behavior was not warranted was legal was happening well it turns out it wasn't as legal as some of the police officers wanted us to believe a new study out by researchers at n.y.u. and fordham law schools have found there was in fact a systemic effort by police to suppress those protests even when the protestors were following the laws and being peaceful peaceful the report states that in many instances the police have responded aggressively to nonviolent protests and escalated situations through arbitrary or misapplications of the law and excessive police presence or the use of unwarranted force the police response has in some cases and considered cumulatively undermined basic assembly and expression freedoms now in total there were about one hundred thirty incidents of excessive or

unwarranted force so how can this happen well john duffel is the co-host of radio dispatch he's in our new york studio and john when the people are who are sworn to protect and serve are the ones causing danger to the community what's the takeaway here. well i think that the main takeaway here like you said is the one hundred thirty instances of excessive or unprovoked use of force i mean the report comes in at just under two hundred pages it's a massive mess of study and it really when you when you read through it you are left with a very clear impression of a police force. incapable of policing itself and that is not bound by any sort of traditional understanding of the laws in america or international laws i know some of the images that first brought attention to occupy

wall street were pictures like this we have seen pictures of women being pepper sprayed and i think we have that video and now the officer behind this who actually pepper sprayed some of these women here they are. you know they're getting knocked to the ground really and they're just standing there and one of the officers behind is actually did face some disciplinary action you might remember his name is anthony alone but there have been more as we said than one hundred incidents of this unwarranted force by police and no disciplinary action i guess i just want to get your take in terms of why you think this it. well i think that it's it's just very clearly the case that mayor bloomberg and police commissioner ray kelly have praised the n.y.p.d. and we have a media that is all too often willing to look the other way or to only sort of

highlight some of the more you know you tube were the events such as the anthony bologna incident but you know when you look at i think the table that lists all of the hundred thirty instances of excessive force i think it's thirty eight pages you look over it and it's instances of you know relatively minor things like shoving or you know being pushed with the baton but then you also get to much more significant cases of an officer applying pressure to an activist who had a broken clavicle and when they screamed out in pain the officer continued to put more pressure on that person there's instances of officers kicking protesters in the face when they're on the ground and you know you you can look at all these together and it's essentially ten months of condensed violence that's just sort of right in front of your face in

a way that no single you tube video can really capture and the fact that there has been no significant disciplinary action and that that bloomberg and kelly show no signs of really having an interest in independence inspector general i think there's just tacit approval of these tactics yeah and it's so interesting i mean i think you said it best that in some cases you know the police force is on able to police itself i think there is cause for a little bit of optimism here because we are in the day and age that we are of course police violence against innocent people against people not really causing that harm is nothing. all right but here we are in two thousand and twelve everyone's cell phone just about has a video camera on it but let me ask you this i mean we see these pictures and it's very clear what's happening because we see the videos and we see the photographs but then when we read sometimes in the newspaper the official statement by the

police department is you know that they were being you know had items thrown at them that they were being provoked and this was their reaction talk a little bit about the discrepancy between the message that you still get from those officials with the police department and what we actually see unfolding before our eyes. right i mean i think that in a lot of media. reporting on events like this there's a real false equivalency where you get a kind of balance of violence from the protesters and from the police and that's just patently false i mean anyone who's been to to any of these events knows that that's just not the case i mean the violence really is very clearly one way from police towards protesters which is not to say that nobody has thrown a water bottle or something like that i mean that stuff does happen but i think

that many times. something that you know somebody throwing a water bottle is used to then justify really overwhelming and disproportionate responses and a lot of the way that the n.y.p.d. does its policing is a sort of powell doctrine ask idea of having so many sort of troops on the ground that it's is it just creates an amazing advantage for them i mean i've been in situations where myself and a couple of activists have been. virtually surrounded by thirty or forty riot police and. they hold their betimes out and chant move together in a sort of creepy military ask way and and that's really what you see a lot of in new york and it keeps it keeps a lot of those kinds of instances off the out of the papers and off you

tube but the idea that there is any sort of balance in violence is just absurd and we you know we should mention of course occupy wall street started back in september in new york near wall street but these movements have taken place all of. around the world and and what we saw in new york is a little bit different in terms of what happened with other movements around the country i want to talk for a moment about oakland it was of course there that an occupy protester veteran actually scott olsen was critically wounded due to police but once that happened they made an effort to not only apologize but to try to change take a listen this is oakland mayor jean kwon from back in october. but i want to say to you tonight is how i am about the outcome and. it's not what anyone hoped for. it was my responsibility and i want to apologize to everyone about what happened.

so here we have an apology from the mayor of oakland i don't recall at least ever hearing anything like that from mayor michael bloomberg i don't want to and later days also called for change and called for things to be investigated talk a little bit about the difference between new york and some of the other cities well i think that closes that we've seen. in new york to anything like that is when after the fiction sort of paramilitary style of fiction november fifteenth in which the press was kept from being able to witness what was going on ray kelly released a memo that said that that was inappropriate and that in the future reporters should be allowed to do their job.

twenty five year old. they said the police targeted them because of their race

and where they lived and have been calling for systemic change ever since nine people were arrested in those demonstrations yesterday and to talk more about this i was joined earlier by community organizer ron go chess. yeah we've been in the streets of anaheim and what this is about this is not just about the killing of these two men this is about generations of repression and violence on behalf of the anaheim police department against the people of anaheim and in particular. in anaheim so i think the frustration finally it blew over people came out and you see that anger against what's happened you get the treatment that our community is facing so i'm not surprised by this and i think that if we offer if we don't have some real justice for the cops who killed these two men in the last week you know i think this violence may continue in anaheim we're not calling for violence but we understand the community is outraged at what's happening and sometimes it just cannot be contained and i know that this protest took place it was a march to disneyland talk

a little bit about why disneyland and what the significance of that is or just yesterday there was three different protests all over anaheim at the city hall in front of and police department and i'm sorry and disneyland the reason why they wanted this in there because obviously design is an internationally recognized place brings in you know millions of dollars to the city and a lot of people believe it really runs the politics in the police department of anaheim so people want to go so that all of the tourist all the people coming from all over the world to anaheim to disneyland can see that just outside of the doors it is in that you know the people do not think it's the happiest place on earth there's a lot of violence against poor people in anaheim and there needs to be called out so i think that's where some of the organizations decided to do go to disney that just expose everyone so the realities of anaheim and i know our correspondent ramon girl window was actually at the protest as well this weekend and spoke to a few of the people there i want to hear from one of those protesters. after i know this is hitting and just shooting literally a couple days after. finally contacted my mom and she basically said there's no

video surveillance there never was a video surveillance you know we have witnesses saying that they actually the police went on the roof and they got the camera. and that was one of the most interesting things ron i mean we heard from from witnesses here who say police were actually coming to their doors trying to purchase a cell phone video from them talk a little bit about these specific shootings here the local media here in los and it's reported that at least four different people were offered cash on the spot by officers of the anaheim police department because obviously they didn't want the split is to go viral so these shooters like i said you know that they're part of a systematic problem in anaheim just this year alone there's been eight killings by the police department most of those of people who are unarmed like what just happened this last week so the people are tired this is not something this is not one one case this is really a systematic problem that's been happening for generations in anaheim in

a city where more than half of the population there is latino fifty three percent of the population is latino they don't have any political representation and they feel that the police department really use you know racial profiling and would challenge against them so that's why we that soon saw the community i mean mothers were you know what stroller there's all kinds of people from the community coming out these aren't even activists they're just people who are completely fed up with the treatment they receive from the police and in response we now see the famous video where the police you know sick dogs on people they shot them with rubber bullets these are women and children who were not activists they weren't anarchists they want people trying to cause problems they were simply just denouncing the brutality that the police use against their people in their community and run as you say and as so many protesters have said to us this is a systemic problem and a lot of them blamed racism and they blame you know flaws in the system i guess i'm curious what specifically people are calling for and also you know if as you say

this has been a problem for so long why they think things will change now. i think most immediately that we need to see justice we need to see that the man who shot these young mexicans here in anaheim they need to be brought to justice they need to be charged with murder and that's why here locally in los angeles today there was a big press conference to demand that come along harris which is attorney general california that should bring about an investigation into these murders not only that obviously it's paying for this pain for the obvious that the officers of the anaheim police department need some sense training so that they don't you know shoot first and ask questions later this is some that's been gone for way too long so those are the things that need to happen so that there can be some change in the community how can the community feel protected and go to the police for help if they feel that they're going to get one more victim of the police department so it's not you know just one that's just one case but we see this happening all over the country that's why even though we're in los angeles we're going to anaheim to

support our brothers and sisters there who are trying to organize themselves to defend themselves unfortunately from the police wrong when you read about these incidents in much of the mainstream media you read about people provoking police before they were shot you read that they were gang members that they were not cooperating but witnesses tell what you know when the witnesses do talk they tell a very different story they say well at least one of the victims might have been running he wasn't provoking anything i guess what i'm suggesting here is there seem to be some major discrepancies between what witnesses are saying and what police are telling some of the media. that this is it's always happened throughout history we see that when you know when someone gets killed particularly a person of color you know the police says that they were either or they were they felt threatened in some way but like you said the community is a very different story you know in the case of mentally as there was absolutely no crime reported in the area it was simply a case of three young men who saw a police officer and given the relationship that we have with the police in our

communities they felt fear so they ran away and now we know that there's all kinds of evidence that he was shot in the back of the head meaning he was running away from the police officers he he did not pose any kind of a threat so the officers but yet you still receive the bullet in the back of his head i mean that speaks to how much they care about safety or community and then afterwards when the people came out to protest they shot rubber bullets they say are non-lethal but if one of those rubber bullets would have hit a child in the head that child would have you know with a sick dog in our community they say it was a mistake but it was a mistake these dogs are extremely train well we're showing that video order to stop they won't we're showing that video right now while you're speaking run video of that dog that was accidentally released as police say that that attack that man we heard from the woman who had you know was holding her baby when those dogs were released they came at her first. the video aspect i think will help in the future police can deny all they want or paint the picture that they want to paint but the

fact is when you have stuff on camera the media are going to be forced to have to look into what actually happened here appreciate you weighing in with us ron i know you're always out there on the scene whatever seems to be happening there and you have a good perspective to give us a community organizer run go check as well when it comes to our financial woes in this country there's a common perception that just a few things are to blame. reason why we have the national debt at the level we have is because of spending and also the dramatic expansion of entitlement programs without paying for me this is a budget busting health care bill that i think is going to bankrupt our country bottom line if we can't protect these entitlements. and also the national defense we need to protect us in a dangerous world well very rarely do we hear anyone saying defense spending needs to be cut in fact most people lawmakers especially are constantly saying we need more and more well here's something to think about the u.s.

inspector general for iraq reconstruction now says that u.s. taxpayers have been funding a two hundred million dollars program to train iraqi police that is either wanted or needed by them it's called the police development program and it's actually the largest state department program in the world so deadly begs the question what are we getting for our money there earlier i was joined by john glaser with antiwar dot com i asked him about the wastefulness of u.s. funds take a look. well the waste is practically built into the system of how things work i mean this is just one report about one program if we go back a few months i think it was in october two thousand and eleven the wartime commission on wartime spending on iraq and afghanistan sixty billion with a b. of u.s. war funds were lost due to waste fraud and abuse and criminal activity in corruption and so forth. later on the commission said we won't release our final details because there's sensitive information sensitive apparently meaning

uncovering government waste praful could see criminality and so forth so it just seems to me if i want to go and join a gym not only do i have to fill out a bunch of forms i have to commit for a year i have to sign something that says if i get hurt it's nobody's fault but mine this is the largest state department program and yet there is no there's nothing even in writing from the iraqi people saying they want to or willing to take part yeah dear i have been very hands off they've wanted. washington's hands off of their government and their security forces for a long time but we need to think about it as well and not none only is this being wasted on a population that doesn't want to intervening but it's also going to what has happened already is that we've propped up this security apparatus in iraq which is has no respect for human rights at all it's basically an armed force for the prime minister maliki who's crowded out sunni's in

a shias and kurds. and is creeping towards dictatorship so i mean this kind of waste is inherent in the fact that we're even giving any money to iraq at all and i know and not only are we giving it and how we given it there continues to be a cry for more and more and i know that recently assistant secretary of state carol pereira's you know told the auditors the people looking into this. that you know this commitment actually was a shirt and it was assured by the principal deputy interior minister i've done now all authority saying that iraq is committed to this program but apparently that same man told those same auditors and this is a direct quote that the program is useless. again she asked for more funding so i mean this is something simple why can't we get our facts straight here yeah it's a good question this is the way government operates i mean even the there's a woman that now works for the center for strategic international studies that used

to be at the embassy in iraq from the beginning that this was a bottomless pit for the u.s. . result things work and you're right people keep arguing for more and more spending and the amount that we've wasted on war and defense in the past ten years is just exorbitant i mean maybe four trillion dollars next time you know as well as i do there are so many people especially in the last two years in washington those who call themselves you know members of the tea party who say that government spending especially on unnecessary programs should be cut should be questioned why can't it be questioned when it falls under the umbrella of defense as well clearly most people involved here would say that this was a wasteful program yeah i think there's two things first of all the nationalism that exists in the american ideology props up so much fervor for government spending on defense and war and sort of flag waving and stuff the other thing is

that there are entrenched interests interests involved in the defense sector that really prevent much of the dialogue that you might hear about health care or transfer payments or taxes. the we spend currently. about as much as the rest of the world combined on our military six times more than china next up so so much of what we do is wasteful but it puts money in the pockets of really rich military industrial complex or organization.

longer. account for what they mean well the insurgency is really ongoing in iraq and that's the sort of that's the quiet little secret in washington we've spent we've spent almost a decade trillions of dollars thousands of our men and women in uniform died hundreds of thousands probably five hundred thousand or six hundred thousand iraqis

dead and the bombings on a mass scale coordinated bombings in numerous cities on the same day occur that's a regular occurrence so the inability to have true security in that country is a direct result of our interventions and the process there now with the contractors and the reconstruction efforts and all this there are no better at doing it in the u.s. military was so it just seems for a country that's so focused on trying to get its fiscal house in order and wants to point fingers at you know what needs to be cut that at least you know the more money you spend on defense doesn't mean the more secure you are i think it's important for people to realize that sometimes there are smart places to cut too that are going to put anyone's help harm or safety in jeopardy and a lot of times you just don't hear that appreciate you being on the show john glaser assistant editor of antiwar dot com well last week we went into depth a bit into the history of doping scandals in the olympics and ask this question

should perhaps some for performance enhancing drugs simply be allowed so they could be better monitored by doctors after all they may not only be safer we might be able to see the extent to which the human body could actually go i know it's a controversial idea but we had some interesting perspectives and now well we just found this on a lympics expired beer it's called never mind the end of all x. so this was created by scottish brewery brew dog and a warning a lump athletes should think twice about drinking at apparently this i.p.a. is filled to the brim with banned ingredients. here we go where before we leave my cargo to sit. on the porch still be. legal that's the beauty of it. don't get so excited though the first batch is the only backs that contains steroids the ones being sold to the public well not that they do still contain those other banned substance.