when the documents to wiki leaks don't go so well in their. turn and some reason. he could use documents that other countries voted since the united don't was embarrassed he's going to become. speaking out for her son r t travels to ecuador to speak with julian assad his mother she talks about his asylum case and why he founded the website wiki leaks the exclusive interview coming up. when thousands of state department cables were released by wiki leaks online world leaders were outraged but did wiki leaks actually help some countries become more transparent arty questions more how can you go from one city to have so much money you know i mean in so many jobs available for people to almost nothing

left the question many people here in the u.s. are asking how can the world's leading superpower actually be so divided at r.t. shows you two sides of america where the haves and the have nots live in two entirely different worlds. it's thursday august second six pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching our team. we begin this hour with an update on wiki leaks whistleblower julian assange assad remains held up in the ecuadorian embassy in london awaiting ecuador's decision on his pleas for political asylum his mother is now in the country to discuss her son's fate with president rafael correa artie's eva golinger caught up with a saunders mother for an exclusive interview her first question to christina saunders how does she feel about the work her son has done. when he

told me that he was doing some. repressive regime to be. going to disagree to be able to. have the country and for you that's what happened. in. the. stroke books on america single change the reason it was all right to be to document the country for the united. is going to be kind. so i has to react one is another of course i wish she'd never done it and said nothing but as a citizen hasn't visited wiki leaks has done to the intense fear into the world that the the town the corruption kidnapping solution all seeing.

torture. and for involved big financial institutions is of course completely do you think that your stand life is in danger. from the beginning. from the u.s. from politicians and from. news coming. down with screaming at his new boss in the most brutal why is this going to be. built up at all and how they were feeling. calling out for crucial for this is no just inciting the game myself. and still in the last few weeks. has been his policies because in tightening its policies k.t. mcfarland who was screaming at the killings execution is somebody who is someone

who rules and has done nothing wrong and he couldn't. do to be true one is one very word where in ecuador i obviously advocating for your son are you here particularly to advocate for his political asylum request. to the foreign ministry invited me so that i could speak to him the bet was on you of the conditions in the strategy for example by the government and suspended him can you talk a little bit about that yes well unfortunately for strange. we have. a prime minister who is really can only really be described this as. subsidy u.s. approval ratings twenty seven percent of people who are not happy with the war and from the beginning the prime minister. condemned my son. in the media speaking ahead of the crisis which is unheard of in stride to speak about

a cause and commit judgment upon a persistent approach to a trial should give a does his right to to to the presumption of innocence by saying that what he did was here. she actually preceded the american government in the statement and. despite the fact that these tried in federal police. i'm too excited. decided that to him had broken no rules at all in this trial yet and the us changing it had refused to blacklist wiki leaks because they could find a crime that is being committed these stunning prime minister julia gillard. continued to sign the scum in the media do you think that the australian government would hand julian over to the united states if they had the possibility of doing so . this is a great concern given that the united states has been libeling its own citizens and

islamist terrorists. with the americans being within the top five countries executing their own citizens in the world and that actually is colliding synchronizing. from one idea to ninety i t. here. what do you think would happen to julian if he were actually added to the united states well i had to assist ten years emotionally like bush was lucky to have an impact from what they're doing to one of their own soldiers bradley manning . which the un report on torture says is cruel and inhumane treatment and very. i was on a panel. cambric capital city d.c. and one of the other speakers we try to include david hicks who has been sick she's in guantanamo. president obama came to office with a promise to close guantanamo. but it happened because the thirty to thirty million

dollars with the four group dicks going to do as we speak. and i was. told we were you. going to die and this is something that we could expect you to do with. those christine anna saunders a mother of julian assad you can see artie's entire exclusive interview online you can find it on our youtube page youtube dot com slash r t america well wiki leaks has certainly sparked outrage among government leaders for the secrets exposed some of them harsh in others just embarrassing from the detention of bradley manning to the attempted extradition of a cylinder we are seeing the fall out from it all but what's interesting about the different ways countries is the different ways that countries have reacted in latin america for example the secrets were spelled out in newspapers and mexico read or learn the country's true relationship with the united states so we want to discuss now of transparency can in fact strengthen democracy and empower the people earlier

i was joined by miguel taker's saul's professor of latin american history at the moana college i asked them how wiki leaks has influenced the people of latin america. i think it's been tremendous and i think it's opened up an entire new panorama in which citizens in mexico and brazil and venezuela can actually see how their governments have interacted on the world stage and in particular in the case of mexico with the drug war the information has been very revealing it has confirmed what many scholars have been saying for quite some time and the same thing in the case of brazil and u.s. relationships and the same thing in venezuela with efforts on the part of the u.s. to isolate countries like venezuela and ecuador in bolivia in the region and that cable gate as it's called led to the fourth departure or tell us ambassador as one to appledore and mexico some go i mean how has this impacted the debate in latin america country about when it comes to transparency and government accountability

but in the case of mexico in particular here we have a government of any pic of their own who in two thousand and six assumes office with a very small margin zero point five one margin in the electoral arena and the u.s. immediately attempts to buttress his administration they recognize it as a stagnant presidency they begin to recognize his government they begin to push and support him so that they and their friends in essence buttress his administration to ensure that they have an ally in the region the same thing we find out that u.s. military personnel in the in the embassy personnel are intentionally a power within mexico they are a second state within mexico they are directing the military they are overseeing the drug war they are funding they are ordering mexican generals to take action the federal police to take action this is very revealing for a country for its citizenship and has been very evident in the political discourse in the political debate in the case of mexico so i think that we see it we see very good examples very clear examples in the case of brazil we have another very clear

example in which the u.s. embassy was privileging its relationship with the military in brazil with the military and the secretary of the military and trying to isolate brazil's foreign policy so we see it we see exactly what. kind of efforts the u.s. had the destabilize to gain control to gain importance in the region and efforts of the stabilize bolivia ever to be stabilized ecuador so that's that's a very revealing sort citizenship and also in the case of all due to us here we have a country which the u.s. is saying that it did not have a coup and that it will not support a coup yet its own ambassador is saying there has been a coup in on good us and we must take action. in a way though he gala it's no secret that the u.s. works very close with latin american countries on this war on drugs. man is it all really that shocking it is to a certain extent it is the way the way the war on drugs was used to buttress a presidential administration so it's one thing for a social movement or scholars to say something and then to have it confirmed so yes

in many ways you're right is confirmation for a series of beliefs that is that is evident in the society and that itself is important because that shift the balance of power in the discourse to say in the case of mexico so that says in the same thing in the case of ennis way that women as well as saying that the u.s. is attempting to isolate venezuela from the rest of latin america to inoculate the continent from latin america is one thing for venezuela to say it is another thing for u.s. documents to confirm it and now we are seeing a growing number of countries passing these freedom of information laws so this shows that people want more access to government documents and government information to them that wiki leaks kind of fed this demand i think it revolutionized the process and i think in the case of brazil when the wiki leaks was thinking about how to release the information in brazil they recognize that it was a sense that a conglomerate that owned all the media so they had to find alternatives and the way that they use those alternatives in fact force the official media the

mainstream media then to adapt and to begin to open up so i think it had a dramatic impact in that in that arena and that was going to be my next question tammy gal on how wiki leaks has affected the way the public views traditional media and latin america do you think you know. the wake of these revelations that has led to this loss of trust our credibility among the people there i think it confirmed as i said earlier confirmed a belief of what what many had already been thinking but now they have the evidence with which to prove it and i think it's going to establish is a new anew margin a new a new bar against which political figures will be judged because in essence they will have alternatives to be able to confirm or disprove what they're saying so i think it is in that sense it continues to be a very important resource in latin america in terms of foreign policy and also internal policy here in the u.s. a songe is widely condemned for what he has done government leaders saying compromise national security by leaking the documents do you think that he is just as demonized in latin america or is he viewed differently if so why well there's

a whole different perspective i think there's a different perspective in the u.s. as well among other sectors i think that there is the government sector but other people also recognize that what what wiki leaks did as an organization and a son in particular was the open up an entire arena foreign policy and allowed citizenship to actually see what the u.s. did in supporting coups and trying to isolate governments and inciting a never ending drug war that is not that has produced over sixty thousand dead in mexico and still the supply of drugs into news north and stopped so i think in that sense it opened up the arena of public for public scrutiny in the u.s. as well and now a delay in us aand is now awaiting to hear back from the ecuadorian officials regarding his his bid to seek asylum there i think it makes sense then that julian assan just kind of turning to latin america for help now i think it does i think it makes perfect sense to turn to the countries that actually the material that he revealed in that his organization revealed. is the most obvious place to turn to countries like upload or countries like bolivia like venezuela like result and i

think that his image in the region is much much different than it is in the u.s. all right and last i just want to ask i guess the controversy surrounding us and as i have mentioned earlier is the fact that some people say yet you put our national security apparatus. by releasing some of these top secret documents whether or not that that's the case is up up for debate but is there any perception in latin america that assad may have compromised national security there no i don't think so i think that maybe somebody in the case of brazil for example in the case of the defense ministry who eventually was replaced by the rousseff the president may may have had. some concerns but i don't think the majority population would share those same concerns very interesting perspective there miguel thank you so much for coming on the show that was made solace he's professor of latin american history at pomona college. also had an r t we take you on a trip to find that it get an interstate highway of the dividing line between two different lifestyles the spotlight on the inequality playing out there next.

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to the capital and i'm lauren lyster. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to be prey. through it's already been made who can you trust no one who is in view with the global machinery see where we had a state controlled capitalism it's called session when nobody dares to ask we do our tea question more. argy is the state run english speaking russian channel it's kind of like. russia today has an extremely confrontational stance when it comes to us.

we just put a picture of me when i was like nine years old when she told the truth. i confess and i am going to get a friends that i was driving to and from. that it was kind of a yesterday. i'm very proud of the world with its place. well it's no secret that income inequality the income inequality gap is widening in the u.s. today and in some areas this reality is more glaring than others the state of

connecticut is one such example is just interstate ninety five was once the ribbon of hope for the promise of prosperity the highway once symbolized but it seems that has changed are the correspondent honest. takes a look at the economic divide and the constitution states. calvin is the master barber at a hair salon dubbed the home of the six dollar cut. service is being cheap business is steady in this town america definitely definitely industries and jobs have faded a lot there used to be about five hundred factories in bridgeport in the thirty's today it's largely a wasteland abuzz with the booming factories and its peak years bridgeport is now a town filled with sites like this one abandoned lots and buildings that were once the work place of a prospering middle class these days there is simply no work to find here the unemployment rate is ridiculous i've been looking for a job for about two years and i haven't been able to find anything. it's hard this

twenty three year old mother jobless and burdened by college debt keeps afloat by selling scrap metal that others throw out it's hard to drive around all day and find stuff on the side of the road gets tiring today taking her son along on the hunt brought her luck. joey and made sixty seven dollars and a few cents. for each board stands off the i ninety five highway in connecticut. i rode the ribbon of hope in the fifty's when industry flourished here. our drive from bridgeport. life is a ball in the picture perfect town of greenwich it's just a place that every by desire to live really it really is getting new worries forgotten i think you know the crandall a crumb of the financial world flock to this paradise where a wall street bedroom primarily i mean obviously we have lawyers and doctors and

retailers but a lot of wall street around here here restaurants overflow with clients with an extra buck to spend luxury cars or shiny homes state of the art it's the most affluent time in in the united states. it just it is it like not my fault but well greenwich and bridgeport are still tied together by the same small strip of asphalt the i ninety five of today is a ribbon of inequality rather than a. reflection of the transition to men today. from opportunity to lifestyle to backdrop reality is increasingly contrast in the u.s. . well production and manufacturing the sources of the american dream have all but vanished i don't know what happened you know i would think that. wall street continues to prosper increasingly hedge fund hubs like greenwich and industrial

ghost towns like bridgeport will live side by side but worlds apart as this is pretty kinetic. well here in arts he would like to cover stories that the mainstream media won't report or under report take this story for example. just. like maybe the only way. you can see that residents terrified as police unleashed dogs and fire projectiles into the crowd this was a response to protests that erupted in the community after police shot dead twenty five year old man while diaz who was apparently unarmed at the time. now while local news and anaheim couldn't ignore it there wasn't much coverage on the networks and when they did they seem to focus on the riots instead of digging deeper and asking why they broke out in the first place here's

a look at some of the headlines that may be online outlets from the l.a. times anaheim unrest twenty four arrested six injured in night of violence the victim post reported anaheim police protests another fire a clash between protesters and officers and this one only focused on the looters smashing windows steal items during anaheim protests and now another police crackdown they've seem to have missed this time on activists in west virginia protesting coal mining police say they arrested twenty protesters after the demonstration on saturday and happened at patriot cold hobbit strip mine in lincoln county the action included coordinated lockdown street sets and banner drops protesters are with the group ramps with sandwich stands for political action for mountain people survival they say the coal mining practices put the health and safety of the community in danger to talk more about this i was joined by dustin

sealant activists with the radical action for mountain people survival take a look. see. when you so good twenty two which is the largest active mountaintop removal permit in appalachian mountain well as the very destructive or of coal mining so instead of going underground and taking coal out that way they take explosives packed it in the top of the mountain and then blow blow them out in a way which since this crash. it is personally we've been. it's been a day. it's been the degradation of a lot of people within appalachian and their health and their environment and that ramps is made and then active effort to stop this destructive process of bonding

and that's and i understand that while you were out there protesting twenty people were arrested you are among those arrested what have you and others been charged with. i am personally and all twenty protestors have been charged with trespassing and obstruction of justice. with that charge they're both misdemeanor charges that should serve a lot sentences we were all charged with a twenty five thousand dollars bond which was completely ludicrous for our charges as of yet of our comrades are still in prison non of our comrades that you bought of seeing coming across the camera has just been released from jail so it's time of jubilation and here at the ranch camp but. for us at this point we're still trying to. move on look after

a really wonderful action of how to move forward and keep the pressure on this extract of industry who is robbing. taking away their wealth and destroying the environment for future generations i would do want to. read that there were some reports alleged beating the while in custody what do you know about that. there was a lot of cases of police brutality with the. experience during the action. one comrade was told. by an officer people were dragged across. personally i was dragged on my back. and. my head was slammed into a concrete wall. into an interview room at the process station where a group of west virginia state police officers. physically assaulted me with

punches and kicks. during the protests i mean did it get violent. any protesters provoking the police or turning to violence themselves or what do you think about the. only involvement that was. make the staunch. peaceful protest we are dedicated to the tenets of nonviolence the only ballance was the violence the police officers and the counter protesters they were completely unprovoked. and a lot of other made a choice of being non-compliant at no point where we fall and at no point were resisting but the west virginia state police still decided to brutalise most self and most of their friends and you decided to protest was struck to form the body now you had mentioned all these these health and environmental hazards earlier on

before and really we haven't heard much about the is this case and west virginia do you feel like you need to stage a protest like this in order to bring awareness to this issue. absolutely it's direct action is the only way that we can get our point across not only are we going to call the coal companies who are trying to destroy our mountains poison our water an area where awesome of dealing with a state police force who is compliant with the coal companies and during protests always cracks down hard on protesters and counter protesters who has been violent to. top removal activists or have we found no recourse within the state police as well as i or state legislators our governor or senator they are bought and paid or baba cold so we have no recourse through

legislative or executive manners either the only way that we can effect change in appalachian is if we take our entire own hands and resists and organize and planned lockdowns and actually. create an alternative to the communities and alternative economies because it's not going to be done by politicians it's not going to be supported by the police if change is going to happen it's going to be people who are willing to go to jail who are willing to be poor working in jobs that don't pay well because it's work that appalachia is the central appalachian are what is the second most diverse place in the world with the exception of the amazon rain forest every day more and more acres of this beautiful beautiful ecosystem that's been destroyed by mountaintop removal the further generations of tourism will no longer

be available because all of our tourism is based on their amazing singer and wallop which is being destroyed by the coal companies for short term profits for the future of our generation we're going to have to resist organize and bought back. all right dustin thank you so much for coming on the show and sharing your experience with us that was dustin steele an activist with the radical action for him out in people's survival that's going to do it for this hour for more on the stories we covered you can check out our you tube channel it's you tube dot com slash our team america we post all our interviews in full over there or you can also check out our web site that address is r t com slash usa our web producers are busy working on stories and we don't always have time to get to here on the air and you can also follow me on twitter at liz wall we'll be right back here at eight o'clock c.n.n. .