tv [untitled] August 9, 2012 10:30am-11:00am EDT
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global news live from moscow this is r.t. and these are your headlines children kept underground and in isolation for ten years by an islamic sect uncovered in russia's city of because. the battle intensifies for the strategic syrian city of aleppo between government forces and the opposition as a senior aide to president obama says a no fly zone over the country is under consideration. and a un report condemns israel after a forced palestinians from their land turning it into a military training ground. ok now we talked to phyllis bennis the director of the washington based institute of policy studies she explains why she thinks the arms
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flowing into syria are really coming from. thank you for joining us on r.t. the red cross and many other experts are saying that the situation in syria has descended into a civil war a full scale civil war. how does that how does that affect the positions of the positions of the west versus the position of other countries so far we have seen no indication that either the us or any of the outside actors are taking seriously the consequences of the determination by the international committee of the red cross that this is a full scale civil war what it means among other things is that the international laws of war what's known as international humanitarian law apply throughout the region and it applies to the opposition as well as to the regime they are obligated under the conditions of international law not to use certain kinds of weapons not
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to attack civilians not to hold prisoners without some kind of process all of those things are part of international humanitarian law and we have seen no evidence yet that any of the outside actors are taking any of that seriously what does that mean to the syrian conflict what it means for the syrian people is that the militarization of this conflict is escalating that can only be in my view dangerous more dangerous the notion that there can be a transition a regime that would not have the same kind of repression that we have seen from assad all these years is still possible the fact that hillary clinton is now reduced to acknowledging that that if assad himself arranges a transition safe haven whether it's in moscow whether it's in saudi arabia or somewhere else that's still possible then the question becomes who is going to be in control if the escalation continues if the militarization continues what we will
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then see is that the post assad. government will be led by the men with guns just like what we saw in libya just like what was so in somalia and many other i don't want to make comparisons libya is a very different country than syria somalia is a very different country but the notion that the victors of a political struggle because this is still a political struggle in syria when the victors are those with the guns that always bodes ill for women for children for civilians syria is not libya syria has a long history of of civil society mobilization and organizations they have many things that was not possible in libya it's not the same i don't want to equate them but the danger is that you will have certain parallels certain similarities such as unaccountable militias who will not put themselves under the accountability of a new government that is
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a very dangerous reality and as diplomats have already acknowledged if there is another bigger explosion in syria if the entire syrian body politic explodes it will be an explosion not an implosion as libya was there is the danger because it is becoming sectarian because of that sectarian character that is only now becoming dominant in syria in a country that was not traditionally a sectarian divided religiously divided country despite the use by the regime of the religious and sectarian divisions to maintain its power this was not a population that identified primarily by their religious affiliation as sunni or shia or alawite or whatever it was a possibility that if you were alawite you had a better shot at power but it wasn't the way people define themselves the danger of course is that with that growing the sectarianism growing there is the danger that
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it will spill over the borders and by some congress. and senators calls to arm the rebels for the u.s. to intervene don't you think that's just going to make it worse any further intervention by further militarization is going to make things worse the original militarization has made things far more difficult further militarization is going to kill more civilians the choice of the syrian opposition to take up arms was contested from the beginning by other parts of the syrian resistance who said that we have a better chance of changing our government of overthrowing the government by nonviolent methods so certainly more escalation whether it's by the u.s. or any other outside power is going to be very very dangerous experts now say that the rebels in syria are very much dominated by there is an interest in the united states for instance of downplaying the role of the islamists but it's become more
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apparent that there are islamist forces whether they are al-qaeda i think there is certainly not much evidence yet i think that it is a very dangerous for outside actors who are not on the ground who don't necessarily have good sources on the ground to assume that any islamist forces for instance are part of al qaeda that's a word that's designed to sow terror in the minds of anybody in the west anyone in europe in the united states it cetera i don't think we know yet what we do know is that the opposition in syria is very diverse there is a part of it that has an islamist framework the same is true of all of the the rebellions that have led to the arab spring we see the muslim brotherhood in power now in egypt that's not al-qaeda there were people claiming it then it was not true we don't know if it's true in syria diplomatically the efforts where do you think that's had given that the escalate the situation on the ground is escalating the
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fact that the u.n. has. allowed the the monitoring mission to remain on the ground for at least another thirty days is the one bit of hope that i see right now kofi annan team led by general mood the norwegian general has begun the political process in which they have been able to use in one town another town in small areas from the ground up to make possible a kind of diplomatic process of local commanders of the military and local commanders of the opposition forces of the resistance to create small scale ceasefires in three or four towns the town of dear dear a sore is one town in syria where it's apparently working if that could be expanded if that mandate could be shifted from simply monitoring a non-existent national ceasefire to facilitating small scale local ceasefires
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that could then spread and move up from the bottom bringing people with it rather than trying impose something from outside from the top down which certainly has not worked that might be the one hope for a diplomatic and less militarized solution but susan rice and other foreign diplomats at the u.n. said that they are willing or they will withdraw at the with through the monitors if this insulation on the ground is does not improve and so far it's not improving so is that is that is that them saying that this is the last time where expanding this mesh that they are saying this is the last time they said that the last time they will change based on political realities not based on the realities on the ground the realities on the ground are not what is determining u.s. positions russian positions qatar's positions saudi positions anybody's positions except for the people of syria what the outside powers are doing has virtually
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nothing to do with what actually is going on on the ground so what we're seeing play out of the united nations. is a power struggle between the united states and russia between nato and the gulf states on the one hand and other arab states on the other we're seeing a bunch of different battles playing out diplomatically almost none of which are taking into account the interests of the people of syria where do you think that's had you think there will be since susan rice clinton and other diplomats have talked about intervention on site they want to think that's going to happen do you think that's a possibility that the west is looking at there is already intervention underway the western countries have provided the military of saudi arabia the military of culture that's where they buy their weapons from they buy american weapons so it is already western weapons that are going in it's not coming directly from the us but it is weapons of the west the danger of that escalating is very serious the danger
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of further escalation involving other outside actors is very serious i don't think the us right now in an election cycle i don't think the obama administration wants to engage in a direct involvement in an air campaign for instance against syria of the kind they engaged in libya i don't think they want to whether what is known in the us as the c.n.n. factor the political pressure on a president in this case on a candidate in the election based on what people are seeing on their television sets becomes very important it's not impossible that even when the regime in power in any country and in this country when the obama administration doesn't want to engage directly if there is enough political pressure they may give in to that pressure that's happened before it could happen again mccain is trying to exercise that kind of pressure other congress and other senators there's a number of senators there's
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a number of members of congress there's calls from the punditry in the mainstream media it's. there's a lot of pressure on the obama administration not because any of them have a proposal of what would actually work but simply because they're using this as a stick to hit candidate obama in the context of the elections that's very dangerous for the rest of the world what are the solutions that you think are best for syria and he's saying there is still time for dialogue but when the government and the opposition i think there is still time i think the time is diminishing i think that the level of repression from the government has been so horrific and in response the opposition which i support as a principle of the right of people to rise up against a repressive regime the fact that they are using stronger and stronger military. strategies and military tactics makes that kind of discourse that kind of
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discussion that kind of negotiation more difficult but there is still time i think the question remains will the international community help to make that possible for example by small scale community by community village by village city by city negotiating process is at the grassroots bringing together local commanders with local officials of the of the military to work out a cease fire and then the political process the best thing the international community could do would be to allow the u.n. to play that role rather than as a fig leaf of international involvement a fig leaf of multilateralism to cover the unilateral decisions of several different governments.
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headlines on our t.v. children are kept underground and in isolation for ten years by an islamic sect uncovered in russia or city of. the battle intensifies for the strategic syrian city of aleppo between government and opposition forces as one senior aide to president obama says a no fly zone over the country is under consideration. by the u.n. report condemns israel for forced palestinians from their land turning it into a military training ground. part of the global sports on the london olympics news as well with kate.
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how well they do the sport in the headlines. eleven gold rushes not. america's national to d.m.'s to win the women's four hundred meter. while france boss russia successful judo team returned how and credit their inspiring coach for that three gold medal. family twenty sixteen double and then be told. by about talk to r.t. about her future finishing. up in a minute. and so let's get the latest from london where russia has won bronze in the men's one thousand meters in the canoe sprint at the olympic regatta the lexicon of asphalt lukin finished third in the final heat three seconds behind when it crashed and put a lot of germany's defending champions brothers day and alexander them down
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a bit from belarus took silver. or later well as the russians in the storm to have made an olympic gold with a hard fought victory in the women's four hundred meter hurdles as russia's medal tally went past the fifty mark so if you want your old one by the skin of her teeth and she was almost caught on the line by american world champion michigan d.m.'s but the russian did just enough to claim her second ever gold zuzana in the for two bronze. while russia's returning judo team credited their coach with their success at the london olympics after winning three gold one silver bronze medal under at russia emerge at the world judo powerhouse in twenty two arab if they do take any medals four years ago in beijing ason gulf breeze past a favorite hero aki hit out of japan in the men's sixty kilogram final to clinch an unexpected gold. while mansell is so i have also i won gold in the men's on the seventy three kilogram final by they think another japanese world champion they
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came north korea and have a lot of won the one hundred kilogram gold with one of them considering the new coach to be the main reason that claims. to come on because you can see the whole team has made significant progress six out of seven reached the semifinals these proofs and so is a phenomenal coach thanks to his efforts at the holes what has become very strong should come under so there's only paid attention to the whole team so our results didn't depend on the performance of just one person his goal was to have everyone bring back in a limping medal so he worked with all of us he turned our squad into a family we've been together for four years three hundred days a year he built a good team where people get along great and as he said if there's a team they'll be results because what else whereas swimming captain you're going to got to understand has called the game's a success after the team won four medals the skipper himself are second only to
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michael phelps in the one hundred meter butterfly after fighting to the middle of two previous occasions he added more russians who has reached the quarter and semifinals than four years ago and the rest of his own result that changed his future plans. i had plans to retire completely from swimming after the olympics but because of my success i have now had to radically rethink my future but i guess the next event i'll be focusing on will be the upcoming european championships. now this says saving you saying bolt is aiming for a little bit double as he tries to retain his two hundred meter title but what makes the jamaican start to kick on to follow caught up with one person who has the inside track on the world's fastest lap. now after it's been storming performance in the one hundred meters the same boat will go for gold again in the two hundred meters on thursday and to talk a bit more about that is a person who does know him very well i will bet for joins me she is the publicist the same boat thank you for your time tonight firstly after that one hundred he
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must be a change to get back on the track is neat absolutely and the two hundred meters is his favorite race and having you know come back from with this qualification in daegu and tram so much in one hundred he's going all out for the two hundred and the four by one because jamaica currently has the world record for the four by one hundred meters now you know him pretty well certainly for the last four years or so he always seems so relaxed isn't the. even for one hundred meters is the hundred meter final he's smiling he's joking is that a carrot to you know yes he's saying he's happy he's excited about doing his job he things that's the way to get people's heart and he said i was sad of his physical performance he's here to do a show and he likes keeping the proto happy and based on the response i mean it was overjoyed i mean after the race. how far the stadium if not more was shouting you saying you saying you saying he's always said he would like to break will record
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you think we'll get another one in the two hundred but if the weather is right and doesn't like the cold it's not bad actually. a little bit of rain here and there he's going after it he doesn't go for records he just wants to wait whatever comes after that so they are bored. i think in the form by one of them he would be his two you would want to challenge the world record and watch his preparation for a race i mean he wakes up on the morning of the final you know he sort of routine. depends on afternoon or morning race typical breakfast he has his beverages and so on that he takes no one to call in the names of anybody but you know he does is usually. eats quite a bit. but not too much probably will talk to somebody in this family's team obviously his coach and his best friend energy. robbery's watches television he's into sports big time and now with their live pictures when we went to visit him he
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was watching boxing and cycling and he gets into it see her checks is there he's now over a million fans wanted to say he's excited about that but he does want that typical twenty five year old does and he's happy once he wakes up he's ready to go looking ahead if we can the world championships athletics championships are in moscow next year is not something he's looking forward to after all he will be looking to get his crime back there when he gets certainly i think after the disappointment with the one hundred metres anything is possible he's the defending two hundred meter champion and obviously we'll want to go back after that and can we seem in russia before then do you think i'm sure if if the price is right ha ha ha you know what i think is a lot of children and i think if we can coordinate some kind of activity where you can interact with the people of russia he would be excited to come along ok with it carolyn. thank you for your time and we can hope that you same boat we
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can probably expect the same boat will get the gold medal in the two hundred fifty knows maybe a world record in the relay andry farmer. london. staying with track and field and it looks like the sky is the limit for pole vault legend seen by over the russian could only manage brawlers in london but that third place seems only to have fired up but henri. has got. to learn a song by arguably russia's most recognized food around the globe children pick gold from athens and beijing have something to do with your stardom but it was a case of third term unlucky for the pole in the british capital and show how true condition was gone with the london wind well i was happy i was hoping medal it was i was a risk to get any medals because of terrible weather conditions. couldn't make qualification height but physically there was ready to jump higher than for forty so i was also
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afraid that weather can. bother me. for them for the medal so i was away but. i did a part break for somebody but the bronze also did at least one good thing it gave the russian a reason to put a time and thirty she wants to start a family and give birth to the first child and this is by the hopes of having a baby will help her deliver the goods games in four years time for the moment the main objective is award championships in moscow two thousand and thirteen is going to be a historical event for russia we're going to house well tempered first time in history . and after that so i will have some great. i think i hopefully i will have. a new family will give an imitation the huge motivation for that is what is my mind that i don't know what's going to happen next. well whether she makes it to brazil or not sheba has already achieved everything that you dream of she's
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a double champion not to mention before the title holder got me to play also said a staggering twenty eight ball broke his career and she's the only woman to ever lead to more than. five meters the top four. i will hold this record from the. train so maybe more years five meters it's incredible it's not easy it seems easy it looks easy but it's so difficult and first of all. so it looks like if you buy this confidence to spare which would be enough to hurt even more scrutiny. watch the speech. who got killed are. now finally on to football and josie marino believes his round madrid side will be pushed hard by arch rivals barcelona next season despite the league champions thrashing ac milan five one in a friendly in new york christiane are now though bagged
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a second half price with setting up three against his former soviet future side who finished runners up in italy last season was fifty thousand fans watched at yankee stadium right now are due to play another exhibition match in america against scottish champions celtic before kicking off their new dress to campaign at home to balance here next sunday the spanish giants recorded an unprecedented one hundred points and scored a hundred twenty one goals last season but knowing you think a repeat is unlikely with competition in spain. i don't think the champions. we will reach that point again. i don't sing the champion we will score one hundred twenty goals saying these are numbers to stay inducer for a long time i don't i don't think. we can do it. but everybody knows we will be a close fight in between. my opinion but just my opinion the two best teams in the
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world. you know you were born and are good. while russian teams are an action this thursday evening among twenty nine second legs in the third qualifying round of the year right pretty good i'm also going to teach two away goals in there to change first they draw at scottish sides done to united to give them an advantage in the homelike want to see things and you take a to know first and they need to vitesse. that's all the sports news and.
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