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for the work. you put through. life from our new center here in moscow this is r.t. top stories now children kept on the ground and in isolation for ten years by an islamic sect uncovered in russia's city of gaza. the battle intensifies for the strategic syrian city of aleppo between government and opposition forces as a senior aide to president obama says a no fly zone over the country is under consideration. and a un report condemns israel off of force palestinians from their land turning it into a military training ground. what next r.t. talks to fit a spanish director of the washington based institute of policy studies she explains where she thinks the arms flowing into syria are really coming from our in-depth
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interview is next. thank you for joining us on r.t. the red cross and many other experts are saying that the situation in syria has descended into a civil war a full scale civil war. how does that how does that affect the positions of the u.s. the positions of the west versus the position of other countries so far we have seen no indication that either the u.s. or any of the outside actors are taking seriously the consequences of the determination by the international committee of the red cross that this is a full scale civil war what it means among other things is that the international laws of war what's known as international humanitarian law apply throughout the region and it applies to the opposition as well as to the regime they are obligated under the conditions of international law not to use certain kinds of weapons not
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to attack civilians not to hold prisoners without some kind of process all of those things are part of international humanitarian law and we have seen no evidence yet that any of the outside actors are taking any of that seriously what does that mean to the syrian conflict what it means for the syrian people is that the militarization of this conflict is escalating that can only be in my view dangerous more dangerous the notion that there can be a transition a regime that would not have the same kind of repression that we have seen from assad all these years is still possible the fact that hillary clinton is now reduced to acknowledging that that if assad himself arranges a transition safe haven whether it's in moscow whether it's and saudi arabia or somewhere else that's still possible then the question becomes who is going to be in control if the escalation continues if the militarization continues what we will
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then see is that. the post assad government will be led by the men with guns just like what we saw in libya just like what was so in somalia and many other i don't want to make comparisons libya is a very different country than syria somalia is a very different country but the notion that the victors of a political struggle because this is still a political struggle in syria when the victors are those with the guns that always bodes ill for women for children for civilians syria is not libya syria has a long history of of civil society mobilization and organizations they have many things that was not possible in libya it's not the same i don't want to equate them but the danger is that you will have certain parallels certain similarities such as unaccountable militias who will not put themselves under the accountability of a new government that is a very dangerous reality and as diplomats have already acknowledged if there is
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another bigger explosion in syria if the entire syrian body politic explodes it will be an explosion not an implosion as libya was there is the danger because it is becoming sectarian because of that sectarian character that is only now becoming dominant in syria in a country that was not traditionally a sectarian divided religiously divided country despite the use by the regime of the religious and sectarian divisions to maintain its power this was not a population that identified primarily by their religious affiliation as sunni or shia or alawite or whatever it was a possibility that if you were alawite you had a better shot at power but it wasn't the way people define themselves the danger of course is that with that growing the sectarianism growing there is the danger that it will spill over the borders and. some congressman and senators calls to arm the
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rebels for the us to intervene don't you think that's just going to make it worse any further intervention by further militarization is going to make things worse the original militarization has made things far more difficult further militarization is going to kill more civilians the choice of the syrian opposition to take up arms was contested from the beginning by other parts of the syrian resistance who said that we have a better chance of changing our government of overthrowing the government by nonviolent methods so certainly more escalation whether it's by the u.s. or any other outside power is going to be very very dangerous experts now say that the rebels in syria are very much dominated by there is an interest in the united states for instance of downplaying the role of the islamists but it's become more
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apparent that there are islamist forces whether they are al-qaeda i think there is certainly not much evidence yet i think that it is a very dangerous for outside actors who are not on the ground who don't necessarily have good sources on the ground to assume that any islamist forces for instance are part of al qaeda that's a word that's designed to sow terror in the minds of anybody in the west anyone in europe in the united states it cetera i don't think we know yet what we do know is that the opposition in syria is very diverse there is a part of it that has an islamist framework the same is true of all of the the rebellions that have led to the arab spring we see the muslim brotherhood in power now in egypt that's not al-qaeda there were people claiming it then it was not true we don't know if it's true in syria diplomatically the efforts where do you think that's had given that the escalate the situation on the ground is escalating the.
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that the u.n. has allowed the the monitoring mission to remain on the ground for at least another thirty days is the one bit of hope that i see right now kofi annan team led by general mood the norwegian general has begun a political process in which they have been able to use in one town another town in small areas from the ground up to make possible a kind of diplomatic process of local commanders of the military and local commanders of the opposition forces of the resistance to create small scale ceasefires in three or four towns the town of dear dearest or is one town in syria where it's apparently working if that could be expanded if that mandate could be shifted from simply monitoring a non-existent national ceasefire to facilitating small scale local ceasefires that could then spread and move up from the bottom bringing people with it rather
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than trying impose something from outside from the top down which certainly has not worked that might be the one hope for a diplomatic and less militarized solution susan rice and other foreign diplomats at the u.n. said that they are willing or they will withdraw at the withdraw the monitors if this insulation on the ground is does not improve and so far it's not improving so is that is that is that them saying that this is the last time where expanding this pressure they are saying this is the last time they said that the last time they will change based on political realities not based on the realities on the ground the realities on the ground are not what is determining u.s. positions russian positions qatar's positions saudi positions anybody's positions except for the people of syria what the outside powers are doing has virtually nothing to do with what actually is going on on the ground so what we're seeing.
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layout of the united nations is a power struggle between the united states and russia between nato and the gulf states on the one hand and other arab states on the other we're seeing a bunch of different battles playing out diplomatically almost none of which are taking into account the interests of the people of syria where do you think that's had you think there will be since susan rice clinton and other diplomats have talked about intervention on site they want to think that's going to happen do you think that's a possibility that the west is looking at there is already intervention underway the western countries have provided the military of saudi arabia the military of culture that's where they buy their weapons from they buy american weapons so it is already western weapons that are going in it's not coming directly from the us but it is weapons of the west the danger of that escalating is very serious the danger of further escalation involving other outside actors is very serious i don't think
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the us right now in an election cycle i don't think the obama administration wants to engage in a direct involvement in an air campaign for instance against syria of the kind they engaged in libya i don't think they want to whether what is known in the us as the c.n.n. factor the political pressure on a president in this case on a candidate in the election based on what people are seeing on their television sets becomes very important it's not impossible that even when the regime in power in any country and in this country when the obama administration doesn't want to engage directly if there is enough political pressure they may give in to that pressure that's happened before it could happen again mccain is trying to exercise that kind of pressure on their congressmen and other senators there's a number of senators there's a number of members of congress there's calls from the punditry in the. the media
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there's a lot of pressure on the obama administration not because any of them have a proposal of what would actually work but simply because they're using this as a stick to hit candidate obama in the context of the elections that's very dangerous for the rest of the world what are the solutions that you think are best for syria and he's saying there is still time for dialogue but when the government and the opposition i think there is still time i think the time is diminishing i think that the level of repression from the government has been so horrific and in response the opposition which i support as a principle of the right of people to rise up against a repressive regime the fact that they are using stronger and stronger military. strategies and military tactics makes that kind of discourse that kind of discussion that kind of negotiation more difficult but there is still time i think
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the question remains will the international community help to make that possible for example by small scale community by community village by village city by city negotiating processes at the grassroots bringing together local commanders with local officials of the of the military to work out a cease fire and then the political process the best thing the international community could do would be to allow the u.n. to play that role rather than as a fig leaf of international involvement a fig leaf of multilateralism to cover the unilateral decisions of several different governments.
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for transportation electricity and manufacturing this is all for problems with before we didn't run and. you know our flaws are not toxic and we did a lot of it there's a lot of mis understanding of what exactly in the fluids. said you can load here unless you come out here and live in my house for a week. i have no rights. more news today violence has once again flared up. and these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. trying for asians to rule the day.
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children kept underground and in isolation for ten years by an islamic sect uncovered in russia city of concern. the battle intensifies for the strategic syrian city of aleppo between government and opposition forces as a senior aide to president obama says a new fly zone over the country is under consideration. and the u.n. report condemns israel after it forced upon the students from their land turning it into a military training ground. public with a news team with more on these stories for in fifteen minutes from now in the meantime sports news with kate. and i welcome to the latest polls there's the top stories making history russians
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talking about uganda takes over in the first ever women's and in pickpocketing lightweight final champion katie tell you that takes a little. while also russia's successful judo team returned home credit their inspiring coach today freed gold medal haul in a. plane twenty sixteen a double olympic gold bowl champion united he survived i talked to r.t. about the future after finishing flood in on the. but first let's get the latest from london where russian boxer sophia go about has taken a silver in the first ever women's and the big lightweight final while that final followed great britain's boxer nickel adams who made history by winning the flyweight off a stunning five time world champion run can kind of china sixteen seven to claim the first ever with his title while world champion taylor won ireland's first gold
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medal by beating actually go back in the women's lightweight finals a repeat of the pedophile world championship bout while earlier i had a bronze in the men's one thousand meters in the canoe sprint at the end of the regatta if you are kind of ashcroft who can finish third in the final heat three seconds behind when it's peter. and kurt shell out of germany defending champions brothers and ray and alexander of down a bit from paris took so over. his returning judo team credited their coach with their success at the london olympics after winning three gold one sober and a bronze medal under russia emerged as the world you know powerhouse in twenty twelve after failing to take any battles four years ago in beijing got the young read to pass by you know walking out of japan in the men's sixty kilogram final to clinch an unexpected gold oh man so it is so i have also won gold in the men's seventy three kilogram final by beating another japanese world champion. and five
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years of elia one of the one hundred kilogram goals with all three of those winners considering their new coach to be the main reason for that trying. to come on because you can see the whole team has made significant progress six out of seven reached the semifinals these proofs and so is a phenomenal coach thanks to his effort that we want as we can bury strong should come understood was only paid attention to the whole team so our results didn't depend on the performance of just one person his goal was to have everyone bring bread. and i won big medal so he worked with all of us he turned our squad into a family we've been together for four years three hundred days a year he built a good team where people get along great and as he said if there's a team you'll be results it was quite else where russia swimming camping i've been to get a fish can house call the games a success after the team won four medals they should get to himself in a second only to michael phelps in the one hundred meter butterfly after failing to
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claim a medal on two previous occasions he added that more russians were has reached the quarter our seventy finals than four years ago and admitted his own result that changed his concrete plans and. i had plans to retire completely from swimming after the olympics but because of my success i've now had to radically rethink my future i guess the next event i'll be focusing on will be the upcoming european championships. well meanwhile this thursday evening you same bolt is aiming for and then pick double has he tries to retain his two hundred meter title but what makes the jamaican star take far more caught up with one person who has the inside track on the world's fastest man. now after he's been storming performance in the one hundred meters you saying bolt will go for gold again in the two hundred meters on thursday and to talk a bit more about that is a person who does know him very well carol back to joins me she is the publicist for you same boat thank you for your time firstly after that one hundred he must be
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reaching to get back on the track isn't he absolutely and the two hundred meters is his favorite race and having you know come back from the disqualification day go and tramp so much in one hundred he's going all out for the two hundred four by one because jamaica currently has the world record for the four by one hundred meters now you know him pretty well certainly for the last four years just so he always seems so relaxed is in the. evening for one hundred maces is the hundred meter final he's smiling he's joking is that a carrot to you know yes he's saying he's happy he's excited about the. in his job he things that's the way to get people's heart and he said i was sad of his physical performance he's here to do a show and he likes keeping a proto happy and based on the response i mean it was overjoyed i mean after the race. half of the stadium if not more was shouting you say and you say and you saying he's always said he would like to. get another one in the two hundred well
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if the weather is right the sand doesn't like the cold it's not bad actually. a little bit of rain here and there he's going after it he doesn't go for records he just wants to wait and whatever comes after that's will be a bonus i think in the form i wanted though he would be his would want to challenge the world record and watch his preparation for a race i mean he wakes up on the morning of the final you know he sort of routine. it depends on afternoon or morning race typical breakfast he has his beverages and so on that he takes no one to call it in names of anybody but you know he does his usually eats quite a bit. but not too much probably will talk to somebody in his family his team obviously his coach and his best friend energy. poverty's watches television he's into sports big time and now with their live pictures when we went to visit him he
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was watching boxing and cycling and he gets into it see the check says joy there he's now over a million fans on twitter so he's excited about that but he does want that typical twenty five year old does at these happy one see wakes up he's ready to go looking ahead so if we can the world championships athletics championships are in moscow next year is not something he's looking forward to after all he will be looking to get his crime back there when he gets certainly i think after the disappointment when the one hundred meters or anything is possible he's defending two hundred meter champion and obviously will want to go. after that and can we see him in russia before then do you think i'm sure if the price is right. now but i think it's a lot of children and i think if we can coordinate some kind of activity where you can interact with the people of russia he would be excited to come along ok with it carolyn. thank you for your time and we can hope that you same boat we
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can probably expect the same boat will get that gold medal in the two hundred fifty knows maybe a world record in the relay andry farmer far to london. well meanwhile staying with track and field and it looks like the sky is the limit for pole vault legend yelena isinbayeva the russian could only manage a bronze in london but that third place seems only to have fired up a thirst for glory as. you learn arguably russia's most recognized athlete to around the globe to limpid gold from athens and b.g. have something to do with your stardom but it was a case of unlucky for the pole vault in the british capital as to how true condition was gone with the london wind well i was hoping i was hoping. it was i was a risk to get any medals because of terrible weather conditions. couldn't make qualification height but physically there was ready to jump higher than for fourteen so i was
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also afraid that rather than. me to do. it for them for the medal so i was. a bit of heartbreak person but that bronze also did at least one good thing it gave the russian a reason to put a full retirement at thirty she wants to start a family and give birth to her first child and it isn't by the hopes of having a baby will help her deliver the goods through games in four years time for the moment the main objective is of all championships in moscow this other thirteen is going to be a historical event for russia we're going to have. so i would have some great. i think i hope for. my new family gives you motivation the huge motivation for that is what is my mind that i don't know we're going to have been through digs. well whether she makes it to brazil or not isn't burger has already achieved everything and the third could dream of she's
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a double champ and not to mention before titles the vulgar good natured has also set a staggering twenty eight drek is due in part career and she's the only woman to have another clear at heart of more than five metres a tough act to follow. this record from the. train so maybe more years five metres it's incredible it's not easy it seems easy it looks easy but it's so difficult and first of all. so it looks like it's and by that his confidence to spare which would be enough to earn her even more sporting glory watch this space. are. finally on to football and joe is a marine who believes his royal madrid side will be pushed hard by arch rivals bosler next season despite the league champions trashing ac milan five one in a friendly in new york christiane are now though back to
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a second half price with qatar setting up three against his former and probably future side he finished runners up in italy last season fifty thousand fans watched at yankee stadium right now are due to play another exhibition match in america against scottish champions celtic before kicking off their new domestic campaign attended by n.p.r. next sunday the spanish giants recorded an unprecedented one hundred points and scored one hundred twenty one goals last season but marino thinks a repeat is unlikely the competition in spain being tough. i don't think the champion. we reach the point. i don't think the champion will score one hundred twenty balls saying these are numbers. for a long time i don't i don't think. we can do it. but everybody knows we're close what. my opinion but just my opinion the two best teams in the world.
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he really were the other opponents are good. well meanwhile two russian teams are anxious the same thing among twenty nine second legs in the third qualifying round of the europa league drive i was going at it to away goals in their two two first leg draw at scottish five done the united to give them an advantage in their home like in the doing pretty well that sutil up at hop time while good things and take a tune out first leg meat. that's all sports news i had. a. good lover a tour to mccurry was. going to need most sophisticated robot which on fortunately doesn't do the door in about anything mission to teach creation why it should care about humans. this is why you should care what your only job.
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