corporations rule the day. and i don't r t when it comes to terrorism in the us most americans associate that word to dark skinned bad from some foreign country but coming up we'll show you why your neighbor just may be a bigger threat than extremists from other countries. and what organization is more popular than both presidential contenders and congress the answer will no doubt surprise you we'll tell you how the t.s.a. polled high approval ratings despite all the public lashings they've received. and speaking of groping stars from the adult film industry or inserting themselves into presidential politics lining up behind either mitt romney or barack obama this born power raise approval ratings we'll uncover the issue.

it's thursday august ninth eight pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching r.t. we begin this hour zeroing in on two mass shootings that have rocked u.s. community is the massacre at a colorado movie theater and just days later a gunman opens fire at a sikh temple and wisconsin both cases tragic unsuspected and unthinkable but for the most part they're seen as isolated incidents and both cases the suspects are young white males not the typical face of terror but someone may have seen this coming form or do you say analysts darryl johnson wrote a report titled right wing extremism current economic and political climate fueling resurgence and radicalization and recruitment many of the right criticize it as politically motivated fear mongering. wing extremists here.

this is a funny story and. this is what we. like to tell it oh my god. does that mean they're going to be spending spending spies to that. there are no timothy mcveigh's out there right now if they are going to issue these reports for this made up threat as posing a bigger threat to this country than terrorists naming veterans groups as possible extremist groups targeting veterans well his career was essentially over because the administration didn't support his finding so while homegrown terrorism is on the rise why isn't the media recognizing this dangerous trend earlier today i was joined by the man that wrote that report former d.j.'s analyst there'll johnson he's the owner of d.t. analytics i first asked him if home grown terrorism is a growing threat in the u.s.

but. basically why it doesn't get as much media publicity as an ok to attack is a lot of these attacks are small and scale meaning that they use firearms or small explosive devices and only injure or kill small amounts of people we're not looking at the mass casualty nine eleven type of attack from these extremists but i mean in the cases that we've seen recently it seems like they're treated as isolated incidents seems like people also have a hard time calling these. these incidents x. terror why isn't the media or you know why are they acknowledge this well in order for it to be an act of terrorism you have to have some sort of political or ideological component to it so the objective of the terrorists is to put forward their cause or their objective. ok in this league recent case over in wisconsin

it seems like that objective was very clear the motives seem to be clear that this was a hate crime he was a member in the military and his. his fellow soldiers there acknowledge that he was just racist so when he was let go for drinking they were surprised because they thought you know they they made another connection there. do you think daryl that you know the word terrorist evokes a specific image to americans and that they have a hard time associating that word it with white males that's true a lot of people because of the overemphasis on the global war on terrorism they're looking for people that have brown skin wearing turbans and having foreign sounding names maybe speaking a foreign accent and so people have been conditioned because of this war on terror to report suspicious activity on individuals that look for him but we also need to

be vigilant about those who are among those that look like me you can be related to your friends or next door neighbor because that they subscribe to any one of these extremist belief systems here they pose a threat as well and this is exactly what you brought attention to in your d.h. asked report i wanted to read a clip from that report if we could bring it up there it states quote threats from white supremacists and violent anti-government groups there in two thousand and nine have been largely rhetorical and have not indicated plans to carry out violent acts nevertheless the consequences of a pro law and economic downturn including real estate foreclosures unemployment and an inability to obtain credit could create a fertile recruiting and vironment for right wing extremists and even result in confrontations between such groups and government authorities similar to those in the past can you darrell a lab raid on on what you mean by that and also. so the media response that you got

to this report well basically what a right wing extremism is is we're talking about people that are motivated by hate white supremacist members of the ku klux klan neo nazis racist skinhead it also encompasses those who have extremist views towards the government including the militia extremists that are basically conducting paramilitary training and also sovereign citizens these are groups and individuals who basically renounce their citizenship and don't pay their taxes and don't register their vehicles and so that's what we meant by right wing extremism in that report and why do you see these forms of extremism as expanding in the u.s. well as we pointed out in the report there were basically a number of factors that fed into this kind of perfect storm where we had radicalization recruitment going on the first was the president of the election of an african-american president this is the thing that white supremacist have basically prepared for in this like their worst nightmare come true the other thing

is the downturn in the economy when you have people that are unemployed people tend to look for causes for why they don't have a job and sometimes they may blame foreign countries for that sometimes they may be blame politicians and so some of these types of people will seek out government groups as a result. with this most recent incident over an hour i suspect michael wade michael page in wisconsin do you think that this could be the tipping point or at what point will people realize that hey this is a legitimate concern this is a legitimate threat well the one thing i want to point out between the aurora incident in colorado and the one that happened at the sikh temple in wisconsin is the shooters had two different motivations behind their attacks and i'd like to kind of address that for a second. at the sikh temple we had an individual that was a member of

a white supremacist movement and had an ideology that basically fit a fear of muslims and i do believe you know in my professional opinion that this individual mistook the sikh temple as a gathering place for muslims in the colorado case it was more of a person that was mentally ill who had no ideology to further them towards violence and didn't really have a political objective behind their attack so it's important to differentiate between those two right glad that you brought attention to an important distinction there. do you think this kind of reflects this shift in attitude this is breeding islamophobia. apparently that. the suspect was mistaken because in this case they were actually muslim but i mean something bigger going on here and this post nine eleven country this world that we left it there right after nine eleven we saw a lot of anti muslim sentiment that spilled out into violent acts against muslims

and unfortunately there were several attacks against sikhs around that time and then more recently within the past year we've seen an uptick in the number of arson attacks and vandalism against mosques and so i think one thing that the government could have done given that track the pattern that we see with the mosque burnings is they could have some sort of warning some sort of threat assessment to the muslim and see communities saying hey we see this uptick and you need to be prepared for it and here are some preventive measures measures you can take to my knowledge no such intelligence warning was ever sent out and as a result you know we have people that are vulnerable and so what do you think both of these situations the suspect a white male what if we put a different face on this suspect what if the suspect was a muslim or from a differ. minority group do you think that the media would react differently or

that there would be a different sense of public outrage or how do you think that would change the dynamic when the parents we've seen this very fact happen that the media doesn't pay attention to attacks because they're white males or people of room citizenry and so i think there needs to be more awareness and congress definitely needs to devote believe an equal amount of time to both types of threats not solely focused on muslims what do you think there are i guess to wrap it up here what would it take to shift this change in perception. and what terrorism is to to bring attention to you know the full picture of all the threats that are facing our country today well i'm hoping that this attack is a wake up call for our decision makers and if they don't get action no unfortunately there may be a target has even more deadly consequences or another type of a turk that kills people in their you know church right daryl really appreciate you

coming on the show thank you so much that was a formal former v.h.s. analyst darryl johnson of the state of louisiana has been making headlines lately mostly for the controversy surrounding newly instated school policies there was first the banning of pregnant teenagers from attending charter schools that band was later reverse but crazier things have happened mother jones compiled a list of them and we wanted to give you a picture of what this education system might look like so we had our wonderful graphics artist with this little masterpiece. in the textbooks of their curriculum that dinosaurs and humans they probably hung out co-existed in harmony another lesson dragons were real we're talking fire breathing animals that acts hail fire and smoke the red scare it isn't over yet according to their taxing globalization

that's ultimately leading up to the rapture. and that's not all they're preaching in the classrooms here's a few more to make you wonder slave masters they say were actually nice guys yeah some of them were cruel but for the most part they treated their slaves well the k.k.k. also not so bad apparently they've actually served to fight the decline of morality and of course they have something to say about homosexuality they teach gay people have no more claims to special rights than child molesters or rapists. so does that sound frightening to you you have to wonder in some places are we just stepping back in time just questioning more. well still ahead here on our take a pair of airport security screenings can be annoying but hey apparently people would rather do that then listen to president obama or romney or all of congress by

find out why americans heart the t.s.a. next.

well the t.s.a. has become an acronym many americans have come to dread we've heard politicians and frustrated citizens complain about the transportation security administration from too close for comfort pat downs to virtually nude snapshots the agency has come under fire for possibly overstepping its boundaries here's a couple of. what we. just heard. she let me just say you're so much more going to the you know your thoughts. we will slowly do that here to test my dream if you read. just the pat down the agency is costly sixty billion dollars since nine eleven but despite the negative press it turns out most americans actually approve of the job that the agency is doing according to recent gallup poll the t.s.a.

has a fifty four percent approval rating that's higher than president obama's fifty three percent rating republican presidential candidate mitt romney's forty percent approval rating and congress's dismissal sixteen percent approval rating so why does the t.s.a. continue to have higher poll numbers in the presidential nominees and four times that of congress and based upon a vicious as it litigation counsel for epic joined me earlier take a listen. i think what we're getting out of this poll are two things the first one is people approve more of the t.s.a. and then this is a positive thing it means t.s.a. is being trained better people aren't having as many run ins there aren't as many of these egregious actions taking place that we had seen previously if that number's down that's good for airline travelers however i think the other thing that we're seeing is that a majority of people are finding the t.s.a. effective and since the documents prove that they are in fact not infective that the technology they are using is not effective that that just means the t.s.a.

is serving more money at p.r. and it's working and i think that's a problem and you know what people are going to say there's actually a couple statistics i want to bring up the t.s.a. and its many rules and equipment are referred to here as a security theater despite this only thirteen percent that think the t.s.a. screening procedures are either not too effective or not effective at all so that leaves eighty five percent of americans that think that these screenings are extremely very or somewhat effective and you know what these people are going to say is that we haven't had a terrorist attack come through at least in our airports so they're being like hey seems like it's working that's what they're saying the problem is we also really haven't had an attempt we haven't had somebody get up to the gate in an airport and try to go through t.s.a. try to go through airport security with a bomb or with something that could cause a terrorist attack this is all being handled in advance what we've always said is

that the number one way to prevent a terrorist attack is intelligence and smart intelligence and it seems like that's what we're doing finally and that's what's going to happen however terrorist attacks are rare. and the t.s.a. isn't stopping them they're not preventing anything from getting through security so you think people per projecting what seems to be a successful the wording of terrorism and crediting the t.s.a. for doing that when in fact it was other intelligence that led to the prevention of these things exactly the t.s.a. the machines that they use the magnetometers the body scanners the past downs none of these can detect powdered explosives this is the number one tool the terrorists use to make bombs this is what the christmas day bomber used they would not prevent a terrorist action from occurring the only way to prevent that is to stop them from getting to the gate in the first we should mention however there was that underwear bomber and the shoe bomber what about those serve what are the better that what about those scenarios well there's

a that's the powdered explosives i was just talking about the underwear bomber the christmas day bomber he was able to get through airport security because of so and i would have guessed i wasn't effective right because he was able to make it through it does say he got he got on a plane in amsterdam was coming to the united states had the powdered explosives in his underwear and almost you know and if not for the incredible difficulty of creating one of these bombs to begin with he could have caused a major incident to occur he ultimately thankfully was not successful however none of the t.s.a. actions would have prevented the exact same thing from happening. when you think these pat downs in these body scanners that epic your organization opposes and anyway actually serve to protect americans from don't terrorism you know they are actually security theater they make people feel a lot safer they make people think when they get on a plane ok everybody's going to security nobody's going to have a gun or a knife or a bomb but they do actually don't prevent

a lot of those things from getting through there's numerous cases of people getting on board air flights with things that should be prohibited and they're really just not making anyone safer really recently actually got as the. the survey that we're talking about had a thousand respondents we recently had over twenty two thousand people signed up to ask the t.s.a. to explain why it was implementing this billion dollar security system that didn't work. i think that's that's telling what we would hope that they're at least doing something because it's costing taxpayers it will it cost taxpayers sixty billion dollars since nine eleven and please sixty two thousand people across the country so i think the hope is there that they're doing something that the fact if the hope is there they're not explaining it of course that because a over one year long court order telling t.s.a. that they have to accept public comment provide certain rules and regulations for when they can use the scanning equipment they're not complying with that court

order we now have had to go back to the court and ask them to force the t.s.a. to comply with this court order because they're not doing it on their own so without the t.s.a. providing an explanation we can't really even know why they think this this money is effective as we've said it's not needed as we said it's not effective so that it sliced this like this the t.s.a. i mean as we just pointed out they have a higher profile rating president obama than you know roles in presidential candidate mitt romney a much higher approval rating than congress so i mean with based on what you just said they're not actually that effective so what do you think is going on here if we look at these numbers are the american people missing something well i think again like i said to begin with the number one thing that is driving these numbers up is better training t.s.a. is actually something that travelers deal with on a day to day basis most most of the american public do not have one on one interactions with president obama or members of congress they do however get to go

to the airport and have a. face to face with members of the t.s.a. and as long as they're trained as long as they're not groping people or needlessly . harassing them we have stacks and stacks of complaints from people since the t.s.a. first instigated the screening technologies the screening procedures of people complaining as long as those numbers are down we can understand that t.s.a. supposedly thinks about who wants to go to the airport and being groped usually not a pleasant experience never happened but i would assume. every i know that you have a court case epic has a court case against d.h. as in the works can you tell us what is the latest on that well we have filed a petition with the d.c. circuit court of appeals asking for them to force the t.s.a. to act now to force them to comply with last year's court order to institue notice and noticing how that rule making to implement a rule that would guide security procedures they haven't done that the court has no

ass told t.s.a. told d.h. as they have to respond to our petition for amendments which is what would force them to act so we're moving forward strongly on that like i said we just had a petition at the white house that garnered over twenty two thousand signatures that asked the white house to ask t.s.a. to explain why they haven't acted yet so people are getting behind them right amy i really appreciate you coming on the show that was a misstep and a vast associate litigation counsel for apic we turn now to the porn industry in the united states an estimated ten to fifteen billion dollars a year industry porn is known to be recession proof having said that as the november elections near more and more adult film stars are growing vocal about who they would like to see take the white house next elections president obama has an entire entourage of porn star power a lot of these ladies we don't even need to name some of the main players in this

illusive industry meanwhile picking up quite a bit of attention by the mainstream media was adult film queen jenna jameson said who openly endorsed governor mitt romney a lot of poor. and having a dramatic impact on the u.s. economy it's no wonder so many folks within the adult film community have opinions on how it's regulated i was joined earlier by quoting blair director of public relations for pink visual and asked him what state did porn stars actually have in politics take a listen. well i think they have the same sort of stick that every american has and frankly there's no reason why they shouldn't express their opinion having said that i'm not sure that a porn star endorsement is the most sought after form of indorsement for a presidential candidate i don't know that the romney campaign is going to be touting the endorsement to have jenna jameson anytime soon but you know certainly they have a right to their opinion and our industry is fairly heavily regulated and those regulations tend to come from the government so we're going to be keenly interested

in what they're up to. is that something that you worry about i mean especially in terms of some of the attacks on porn that we've seen mostly coming from the right. it's in danger of becoming even more i get laid and. i'm not as concerned about that as i used to be in the primary reason for that is the general public's attitude towards porn is one of greater tolerance and acceptance over time and i think you have a harder time getting people too upset about it these days you know we're in that sort of post two girls one cup world you have people that don't even watch or intruding around a really gross clip for laughs convincing most people that you know depiction of consensual sex between two adults is going to ruin the world is probably going to be tough to do all right let's say republicans or democrats which party quinn would you say is more porn friendly. well i'm not sure either of them is farm friendly to

be honest certainly under the clinton administration when the adult internet sort of grew up so to speak we were largely ignored by the clinton administration and i think the industry is happy to be ignored frankly given the alternative we don't really get much in the way of a good vibe from the government they're either seeking a religious or prosecutors for obscenity or ignoring us so we're happy to be ignored if that's the option. i think it probably doesn't make much difference i know romney has talked about cracking down on porn but it's really not as easy as all that the first amendment is what it is and current case law says that it applies even to hardcore pornography that's something morality and very excuse me morality and media doesn't agree with but they tend to obscure the issue a bit and talk about it as though everything we do is illegal and it's just not the case. horn is a very profitable industry we had mentioned earlier that it's relatively recession

proof ten billion to fifteen billion dollar industry can you talk a little bit about that and you know that the fact that porn does make a significant contribution to the economy what it does i would argue that it's actually not recession proof though actually really we're the porn industry is going through a tough time right now and more than government regulation what's really hurting us is piracy of on adult content online we're trying to sell things that people can give for free quite easily that's a big threat to the industry the industry is hurting right now like like every businesses and it's partially the economy but it's largely the piracy too. so certainly on top of that we don't want a crackdown from the government that would just make it all the more difficult and give us legal bills on top of all our other headaches to handle but i think the idea that court is recession proof has turned out to be kind of false in the in the last four years mantra say. well i guess who wants to pay for porn when you can get

it for free right exactly and i guess you can get it for free i'm hearing that it's pretty easy to get it for free and so you do you can continue to see this as a challenge for your industry definitely and probably a bigger challenge than the regulation the government is likely to come up with. it should also mention that adult film actress says. a number of come out expressing a desire to see a president from a third party what do you think about that i think it would be outstanding actually i'm a big gary johnson supporters the libertarian candidate i'm not actually a registered libertarian i'm ridge to independent but i think it would be really nice if the media would pay some attention to this guy he's got a lot of good ideas he's really fairly centrist in a lot of ways he has ideas that appeal to the left in the right he's pro-choice he's pro gay marriage but he's also pro second amendment and he's of all the

candidates the only one who's come out with a strong statement about free speech and the importance of the first amendment's protections being maintained so if the porn industry were to back any one candidate the one that would make sense would be gary johnson all right interesting guests more libertarians make sense for more porn stars to be libertarians that right. legendary porn star ron jeremy recently told the boston herald he is voting for president obama i think this is a big endorsement for the president. not really rival runs a very good guy i know i'm a little bit i can't really call his friends but i you know he's a good guy had a smart guy i would be going to happy to have his indorsement a final obama but i don't think it's going to sway a lot of voters one way or the other. i would certainly was put this way i'd rather have runs indorsement than john as no offense to joe but in the end i don't think it's going to make much difference in the election. i guess we can all agree on

that that i guess said that the more support you can get the better and they really are going to help mention of those roots. and voyage he is director of public great relations for pink visual well that's going to do it for now for more on the stories we covered you can check out our you tube channel youtube dot com slash r t america you can also check out our website r t dot com slash usa and you can follow me on twitter outlets well we'll be back here at ten pm. r t is the state run english speaking russian channel it's kind of like al-jazeera. russia today has an extremely confrontational stance when it comes to us.