for your media. tonight and artsy when it comes to terrorism in the u.s. most americans associate that word to dark skinned men from some foreign country but coming up we'll show you why your neighbor just may be a bigger threat than extremists from other countries. and what organization is more popular than both presidential contenders and congress the answer will no doubt surprise you we'll tell you how the t.s.a. pulled higher approval ratings despite the all the public lashing they've received . stars from the adult film industry or inserting themselves into presidential politics lining up behind other mitt romney or barack obama all this porn power raise approval ratings will uncover the issue.

we begin this hour to mass shootings that have rocked u.s. community is the massacre at a colorado movie theater and just days later a gunman opens fire at a sikh temple in wisconsin both cases tragic and suspected and then goble well for the most part they're seen as isolated incidents and both cases the suspects are young white males not the typical face of terror but someone may have seen this coming a former d.a. has analyst darryl johnson wrote a report titled a right wing extremism occurred economic and political climate fueling resurgence and radicalization and recruitment many on the right criticize it as politically motivated fear mongering. and wing extremists. for the story that. this is all well look we like

to tell it oh my god. does that mean they're going to be spending spending spies to the g. boards there are no timothy mcveigh's out there right now if they're going to issue these reports for this made up threat serbians as posing a bigger threat to this country than all kind of terrorists naming veterans groups as possible extremist groups targeting veterans. well his career was essentially over because the administration did not support its findings so while homegrown terrorism the peers to be on the rise why isn't the media recognizing this dangerous trend to discuss this as brian's already senior editor of reason magazine he's also the author of the book you see there gun control on trial brian welcome so right wing extremism does in fact appear to be on the rise why are people

acknowledging that. i'm not sure exactly what you mean by right wing extremism and the problem. with that just report we were talking about is that it combined what we call it groups the kind of groups that h. it was conscience you would appear to be of member of and people who merely had political opinions that the government didn't like and quoting from the report itself i think like we're just being federal authority in favor of state or local authority or rejecting government authority parlayed it was just a myth especially for law enforcement to mix together a set of ideas and label it as terroristic or criminal and i question whether one incident one guy would leap to the group killing people on it justifies you saying that there is a dangerous trend that there's some need for the government to combat i don't want to read you brian a quality from that report that states quote threats from white supremacy s. and violent anti-government groups during two thousand and nine have been largely

rhetorical and have not indicated plans to carry out violent acts nevertheless the consequences of a prolonged economic downturn including real estate for closure is unemployment and an inability to obtain credit could create a fertile recruiting environment for right wing extremists and even result and confrontations between such groups and government authorities similar to those in the past. what do you make what you make of that brian. i think the first part is the most important part is that there is not actually a lot of evidence and there's certainly no actual cases except for this one that just happened people connected to what they're calling. them so again i think that's very dangerous to the political life with racial ideas but at any rate there is not one god that's finally reached out and built a bunch of people i don't actually see how that justifies

a policy that we shouldn't with. the thing that i was nothing about on r.t.f. with the aurora shooting i think people in their attempt to make sense of let senseless try to reach for the it's not your whole solution. it's our individual out lawyer problems i would say until we actually have evidence that people from these groups are actually committing crimes on a regular basis that looking for an f.b.i. so we should look out their terrorism solution is really just an attempt to sort of criminalize a bunch of ideas that people don't like i don't think this one makes enough of a trend that we can say anything about it and certainly not enough that we should be that government should act. but this incident did occur it did occur in wisconsin and it absolutely was it appears to be right wing extremism and this was a hate crime when we did a story a couple days ago in another state where two mosques were burned down one of them

was identified as arson the other one is being investigated but it's presumed that it was also a hate crime and i mean a danger be acknowledged and it's pretty clear that since nine eleven that there is this a growing. sentiment of islamophobia and therefore you know this could lead to more more hate. hate crime yes i will i will certainly acknowledge that the u.s. government has been urging a great deal of islamophobia since nine eleven and in fact practicing violence and cry against islam overseas do a huge degree which is something i think we should forget when they get the thing but i do want to say it's very dangerous that mix. racial hate of the sort that seem to motivate page under just the label right wing blog right we thought just needs a certain set of political beliefs that does not mean that you want to commit

a crime against anyone that certainly doesn't commit a crime against anyone and in a world where statutes and control and surveillance of people with government want to label terrorists is getting wider and wider and more and more dangerous make it very risky to start saying ok there are certain people who believe certain things we're going to call them terrorists we're going to sort of call them criminals even if they actually have that i think brian i think we should look at the same as just wrong they are wrong they are murderers you know these people we're talking about it just break from that and saying oh anyone who thinks the way this guy is or we're going to label him as something and so anyone who we think is like him deserves some kind of special scrutiny i think it's extremely dangerous to really believe and so but these aren't just any simple run of the mill crimes that we are talking about hate crimes here brian do you acknowledge that you know whether it's extremism on the right or extremism on the left. that extreme and whatever kind of extremism it is that that breeds hostility and violence is not

a good thing i'm going to say that any extremism that's merely a set of opinions that you don't like or i don't like or that government doesn't lifers that they think is weird we can't start pretending that we can criminalize thought i mean what i'm saying is what we need to what we need to worry about are crimes people who can criminal i don't start but you can criminalize and when that when that. becomes a hateful and dangerous and deadly action sure but then then what what extra benefit do you get from the concept of an extremist hate crime except just sort of point the finger at people who think the same thing as the person who committed the crime i think a crime is a crime murder is murder i think it's actually politically dangerous to start labeling them with this set of ideas because then that becomes an excuse to criminalize criminalize or sort of. the ideas and i think that's a very bad idea if you prosecute criminals to the greatest force in instances

like this you know the guy ended up fortunately being killed on the scene so there's not really much more we can talk about it as a policy matter i think except to point the finger at people with your beliefs and unfortunately in this country until you commit a crime it should be ok to have. do you think though that there is a danger i mean when it comes to the word terrorist this evokes a pretty specific image in the minds of americans do you think people have a hard time calling white males are terrorists. i think in the case of paige i've certainly heard people calling him a terrorist given his background given the truth i mean we can talk to him about why he did it but it's reasonable to assume that he did it with the intent of striking there are interesting store people but what we're doing the people that they're proposing to be the danger of the river around the word terrorism when i

think we should just be talking about crime is as i said that there's there's been increasing. you know regulation and surveillance techniques that are aimed at people who the government calls terrorists you know they try to do this with animal rights activists they probably do it with the people who are just you know give that money or given what the government will support any fruit they call it terrorism that's very dangerous they think the law should focus on actual crimes that are not what group they belong to or whether they've given aid to a proof that the government or if it's a very powerful dangerous label and i think it's safer to just call a criminal. right and we're going to have to leave it off their appreciation coming on the show that was dry and already a senior added are of reason magazine of the state of louisiana has been making headlines lately mostly for the controversy surrounding newly instated school policies there was first this banning of pregnant teenagers from and having charter schools and that ban was reversed but crazier things have happened mother jones

compiled a list of them and wanted to give you a picture of what this education system might look like so we had our wonderful graphics artist with up this little masterpiece you see there it's hot in the textbooks of their curriculum that dinosaurs and humans they probably out coexisted in harmony another lesson dragons were real we're talking fire breathing animals that exhale fire and smoke the red scare according to them isn't over yet and globalisation ultimately is leading up to the rapture does this sound frightening so you have to wonder in places are we stepping back and time questioning more. well as the us become too politically correct it seems like almost weekly some group is launching a boycott or calling for an organization to change their views it's happening and

the ad industry some commercials are campaigns are being polled because that they have upset some group or someone is on a saucy a church going to takes a look at some of these so-called offensive ads. provocation and risk appreciated by some offensive to others the pope kissing any mom the pope looks like a terrible kisser the u.s. president planting a wet one on china's leader this is like completely grosses me out it does yeah because here again sort of mixing the races like the advertisement and merchandise pushing the boundaries have been creating a storm of accusations of insensitivity intolerance and even bigotry and yeah you do these days it's the least little bit creative is likely to offend somebody in an age of over the top demands for political correctness attention grabbing headlines and images are increasingly popular like this ad displaying milk's favorite cookie deemed too shocking people need to see a more aggressive reading because everyone's done it on some level and on the

receiving end or done it and i wish you a baseball cap infuriating the irish community and even a t. shirt with a positive message creating outrage in the u.s. oh my god this is ridiculous transgendered activists were upset that a transgendered model wore a t. shirt that said gay is ok so do the offended have a point or are they just too sensitive to the vatican demanded the ad scrapped after denouncing it as quote an acceptable provocation benetton pulled back an ad showing for when in the sixteenth a single scene egyptian and mama can needs to chill out and it will it's no secret advertising companies who shock and create scandal profit the most if i were working on madison avenue i would definitely be working the controversy card as much as possible we know that edgy works the metrics show it on television they show it on line edgy always works the newfound respect for correctness is recent yet often hypocritical things went wrong in the one nine hundred eighty s.

and ninety's when it became not ok to use for example sexist language like you couldn't call a woman a more but you can still pay her seventy cents. dollar for every man for every dollar but i mean the list of those offended grows by the day if i wanted to i could probably organize a group today of colorblind middle aged balding guys who are offended at how we're portrayed in the media i've got better things to do that while passions over advertising peak real issues with shocking truth have a hard time getting traction if i were the vatican i'd be more upset about like real kissing going on in the church between priests and real life kids and i would be about you know some photoshop thing well companies created scandal when i did way by getting to milk the publicity they receive those getting upset are largely wasting time that could be better spent on campaigns more meaningful

that. this in turn are part. of the t.s.a. has become an acronym any americans have come to dread we've heard politicians and frustrated said a sense complained about the transportation security administration from too close for comfort pat downs to virtually nude snapshots the agency has come under fire for possibly overstepping its boundaries. her job. sure figures so much we're going to. change my job if you're ready. so sir in a lot of controversy there are many unhappy travelers at the airports but it's not just pat down the agency is costly sixty billion dollars since nine eleven but despite the negative press it turns out most americans actually approve of the

agency and the job it's doing according to a recent gallup poll the t.s.a. has a fifty four percent approval rating that's higher than president obama's fifty three percent rating republican presidential candidate mitt romney's forty percent approval rating and congress's decimal sixteen percent approval rating so why does the t.s.a. continue to have higher polling numbers than the presidential nominees in nearly four times the approval rating of congress to discuss this and more enemies to benefit associate litigation counsel for epic joins us now amy welcome so. were you surprised by this poll a little bit i think what we're getting out of this poll are two things the first one is people approve more of the t.s.a. i think this is a positive thing it means t.s.a. is being trained better people aren't having as many run ins there aren't as many of these egregious actions taking place that we had seen previously if that number's down that's good for airline travelers however i think the other thing

that we're seeing is that a majority of people are finding the t.s.a. effective and since the documents prove that they are in fact not infected that the technology they are using is not effective that that just means the t.s.a. is throwing more money at p.r. and it's working and i think that's a problem and you know what people are going to say there's actually a couple statistics i want to bring up the t.s.a. and its many rules and equipment are. furred to hear as the security theater despite this only thirteen percent that think the t.s.a. screening procedures are either not too effective or not effective at all so that leaves eighty five percent of americans that think that these screenings are extremely very or somewhat effective and you know what these people are going to say is that we haven't had a terrorist attack come through at least in our airports so they're being like a seems like it's working that's what they're saying the problem is we also really haven't had an attempt we haven't had somebody get up to the gate in an airport and

try to go through t.s.a. try to go through airport security with a bomb or with something that could cause a terrorist attack this is all being handled in advance what we've always said is that the number one way to prevent a terrorist attack is intelligence and smart intelligence and it seems like that's what we're doing finally and that's what's going to happen however terrorist attacks are rare. and the t.s.a. isn't stopping them they're not preventing anything from getting through security so you think people per projecting what seems to be a successful forwarding of terrorism and a coup crediting the t.s.a. for doing that when in fact it was other intelligence that led to the prevention of these things exactly the t.s.a. the machines that they use the magnetometers the body scanners the pass downs none of these can detect powdered explosives this is the number one tool the terrorists use to make bombs this is what the christmas day bomber used they would not prevent a terrorist action from occurring the only way to prevent that is to stop them from

getting to the gate in the first we should mention however there was that underwear bomber and the shoe bomber what about those serve what are the butt of that what about those scenarios well those is that's the powdered explosives i was just talking about the underwear bomber the christmas day bomber he was able to get through airport security because of so in that way he has a wasn't effective right because he was able to make it through would die say he got he got on a plane in amsterdam was coming to the united states had the powdered explosives in his underwear and almost you know. if not for the incredible difficulty of creating one of these bombs to begin with he could have caused a major incident to occur he ultimately thankfully was not successful however none of the t.s.a. actions would have prevented the exact same thing from happening. do you think these pat downs in these body scanners that epic your organization opposes and anyway actually serve to protect americans from don't terrorism you know they are

actually security theater they make people feel a lot safer they make people think when they get on a plane ok everybody's going to security nobody's going to have a gun or a knife or a bomb but they do actually don't prevent a lot of those things from getting through there's numerous cases of people getting on board air flights with things that should be prohibited and they're really just not making anyone safer really recently actually got as the. the survey that we're talking about had a thousand respondents we recently had over twenty two thousand people signed up to ask the t.s.a. to explain why it was implementing this billion dollar security system that didn't work. i think that's that's telling what we would hope that they're at least doing something because it's costing taxpayers they will it cost taxpayers sixty billion dollars since nine eleven a ploy is sixty two thousand people across the country so i think the hope is there that they're doing something that the fact if the hope is there they're not

explaining it of course that because a over one year long court order telling t.s.a. that they have to accept public comment provide certain rules and regulations for when they can use the scanning equipment they're not complying with that court order we now have had to go back to the court and ask them to force the t.s.a. to comply with this court order because they're not doing it on their own so without the t.s.a. providing an explanation we can't really even know why they think this this money is effective as we've said it's not needed as we said it's not effective so that it sliced this like this the t.s.a. i mean as we just pointed out they have a higher approval rating president obama than you know roles in presidential candidate mitt romney a much higher approval rating than congress so i mean with based on what you just said they're not actually that effective so what do you think is going on here if we look at these numbers are the american people missing something well i think again like i said to begin with the number one thing that is driving these numbers

up is better training t.s.a. is actually something that travelers deal with on a day to day basis most most of the american public do not have one on one interactions with president obama or members of congress they do however get to go to the airport and have a. face to face with members of the t.s.a. and as long as they're trained as long as they're not groping people or needlessly . harassing them we have stacks and stacks of complaints from people since the t.s.a. first instigated these screening technologies the screening procedures of people complaining as long as those numbers are down we can understand that t.s.a. is a proto who wants to go to the airport and grow to keep really not a pleasant experience never happened but i would assume. every i know that you have a court case epic has a court case against d.h. as in the works can you tell us what is the latest on that well we have filed a petition with the d.c. circuit court of appeals asking for them to force the t.s.a.

to act now to force them to comply with last year's court order to institue notice and noticing that rule making to implement a rule that would guide security procedures they haven't done that the court has no told t.s.a. told d.h. as they have to respond to our petition for amendments which is what would force them to act so we are moving forward strongly on that like i said we just had a petition at the white house that garnered over twenty two thousand signatures that asked the white house to ask t.s.a. to explain why they haven't acted yet so people are getting behind the right amy really appreciate you coming on the show that was amy step out of it associate litigation counsel for apic. the porn industry in the united states an estimated ten to fifteen billion dollars a year industry porn is said to be recession proof and with its economic contribution as the november elections near more and more adult film stars are

growing vocal about who they would like to see take the white house in the next elections president obama has an entire entourage of porn stars a lot of these ladies we don't even need to name some of the main players in this elusive in this story meanwhile picking up quite a bit of attention by the mainstream media was adult film queen jenna jameson said openly endorse governor mitt romney. so with ford having a dramatic impact on the u.s. economy it's no wonder so many folks within the adult film community have opinions on how it's regulated help discuss this we're joined now by alex chance in adult film performer alex welcome. first want to ask you who you are indoors saying obama obama why is that. i just think is far is being more poor and friendly democrats have always been

a little more lenient. and i'm all for health care in the u.s. so because i know a lot of people don't have health care especially in my industry it's not like it's something that's exactly clued in or a plan they get to get to work that in there that's an important thing to have as part of your your work package but anyway is alex want to ask you why are porn stars concerned about politics i mean what stake do they have in it. well it does affect our jobs and how things happen where people just like everywhere and so we can have a political opinion and we do have fans so i guess he figured he might as well do whatever we can and influence and are you worried that. you had mentioned that porn there's always this attempt to regulate it you know we saw from some other republican presidential candidates their attempt to crack down

on it is there a fear that there will be more of an attempt to regulate this industry. i think there will be it's something that people have always tried to do. especially california nowadays so i can only imagine with the republican public and office what's going to happen they're already trying to make us wear condoms i mean what's next. for you who knows what's next i do think it's important alex to mention that the porn industry makes a pretty significant contribution economically at ten ten billion to fifteen billion dollar industry so porn is import and to the to the economy can you talk a little bit about that how maybe you're not getting the appreciation for the economic contribution that your industry does make. we really aren't like for instance in l.a.

with you know them trying to make the new condom ordinance they don't realize exactly how many jobs porn creates just here in the city because there's you know hundreds of production companies and then there's the d.v.d. distribution the people that do that the performers that are actors the crew people it's you know it really does affect the industry and the economy here and talk about it is that consumers that actually buy the d.v.d.'s absolutely talk about this latest i mean you had mentioned. being mandated to wear condoms why could that be disastrous for the porn industry. the porn industry people do not want to see condom porn vivid tried it before it didn't work out there's very few only companies there's a wicked in the rose and flora shoots condom only and there might be one or two i'm forgetting. but it's were tested every twenty eight thirty days.

sometimes even fourteen depending on the company it's up to us whether we would like to wear a condom or not we're the most tested population and where the porn industry is so it's our right to decide whether we want to or don't. you know they should have a right to choose it's not really necessarily about safety because we are safe. getting back to kind of the politics of that some adult film actresses have expressed a desire to see a president from a third party what do you think about that do you think maybe a third party candidate might be a little bit more porn friendly. i think it just depends on the third party candidate but anyone that's porn friendly is good in my book. there you go you know who just made a pretty high profile endorsement the legendary porn star ron jeremy recently told the boston herald he's voting for president obama what do you think about that is

that a big endorsement for the president i think it really is i love ron he's great i've known him since actually before i got in the industry and met him when i was working i convention for a friend back last august like literally the weekend before i got into porn and he's i think everyone knows who he is and i've been involved with him and everyone knows who ron jeremy is so i mean people have come up with worse reasons to vote for someone. very interesting good luck to you that was alex chance she's an adult film performer and we're going to leave it at that ford's tonight but for more on the stories we covered check out our you tube page you tube dot com slash r t america you can also check out our web site that is our dot com slash usa and you can also follow me on twitter liz wall for now have a great night we'll see about.