coming up this hour you heard it here artie uncovers the truth about a sophisticated surveillance system that can track your every movement so smile for the camera because chances are big brother is watching coming up artie's andrew blake will break the story down for us. plus the latest details about the seemingly endless debate over the national defense authorization act better known as andy a well indefinite detentions become as american as apple pie we've got one of the plaintiffs in the case joining us to tell you what this means for your civil liberties. and when it comes to foreclosure fraud that can a single person achieve what president obama and all of congress have not been able to buy one woman who's running to be

a clerk of court sure willing to try and we'll ask her how. it is monday august thirteenth at four pm in washington d.c. i'm christine and you're watching our t.v. . i want to tell you more about a previously top secret program used for the last several years in many major cities here in the united states and there are a few different elements involved here we're talking highly technical facial recognition software close circuit cameras like the ones you may have seen you know in parks or on the sides of buildings and also former senior intelligence officials to collect information about people by recording them and then encrypting that information and instantaneously delivering it to a central database center to be aggregated with other intelligence and then mined for data by those former top officials people who used to work for the cia the

f.b.i. and other organizations the secret program is known as trap wire and was revealed by wiki leaks and a short time later the whistle blowing web site experience what's called distributed denial of service attacks that cut access to the site to a large number of people now the hacktivist group anonymous put out a video about this and here's their take the software is being billed as a method by which to prevent terrorism but it can of course also be used to provide precedented surveillance and data mining people. governments corporations and others. use technology like. this in. and it was our web right here at our team that has really been on this story getting the nuts and bolts out every day the story is called stratfor e-mails reveal secret widespread tromp wire

surveillance program that story then referred to in plenty of other articles in publications like reason and salon and firedoglake and so we want to now break it down with web producer andrew blake himself he joins me now in syria hey there and your i know this is henri it seems to have caught a lot of attention since you first reported on it last friday i guess just kind of break down some the almost like too much attention like the way that this story has quickly spiraled out of control in just three days is almost a make believe but what's actually happening is science fiction so we kind of make sense so we have to back up to two thousand and four this company releases abraxas puts together this thing called trip wire and not a lot is known about it right now and it's still not the way it's been all week and we're people trying to dig up information we don't really know that much but we do know abraxas has this program called trap wire the vice president of intelligence there said it's more sophisticated than any facial recognition program out there

and they can use these cameras to go in and track someone in whoever they're located in so far as the biggest myth politan cities across the united states so we're talking d.c. new york chicago los angeles las vegas and there's just the connections goes so much deeper than that too but so what they do is they monitor all these video streams they get sent to a database. center and they can go and they can zoom in on someone they can find out who they are and what they're doing and they can go back and they say they'll walk that path to back it go backwards go in time and they can start off with one suspicious activity report and go to see what this person's been doing and they can find out who these people are where they're going to go you know it's kind these are not criminals or suspected terrorists i mean that's what that's why it was established they said this is here. to start a trap. back in two thousand and four as a response to kind of like nine eleven but it's everywhere and what i see everywhere we're just starting to find out really how deep this goes because i'm

a breath this is kind of peculiar abraxas was acquired by another company based out of san diego called cubic in cuba got them a few years ago that was two thousand and ten one hundred twenty four million dollars which is nothing trap wire system if you have it installed in certain cities certain states they're spending hundreds of million dollars just just to have that going so cubic took a hold of a practice in turn getting trapped wire in turn being able to look at anyone anywhere in the cities places like d.c. where you can't swing a dead cat around without hitting something that's considered critical infrastructure site whether it's like a department of energy satellite office or a d.h.s.s. hotdog stand or something where anything around in d.c. is going to be considered critical infrastructure site and all of these cameras in d.c. for instance are hooked up to the d.c. metropolitan police department who in turn feeds them to trip wire and they have this massive intelligence database but that's one thing we really have to see how

far back this goes because cubic also runs the transportation farecard systems in new york in d.c. in chicago and in los angeles so in a place like d.c. or new york for example you have the same company where you give them your credit card and you buy a fare card and you get on the train you can go anywhere within twenty miles you give that company your information and at the same time they have your face and they're watching you when you get off that train they can find you anywhere in the city and you were referring just a minute ago to the millions of dollars that this program cost us where does this money come from i'm from what i understand it's often paid for by taxpayers i know l.a. mayor antonio that was talking about it recently and here's what he had to say. we all need to be vigilant and proactive in protecting our city from terrorist threats would los angeles consistently rank in the top the list of terrorist targets we need your help in keeping watch over our city i watch as

a community program that partners you with law enforcement officials provides an easy way to report suspicious behavior and activities. so los angeles is believed to have spent about one point four million dollars. on this talk a little bit about the money and of taxpayers are even aware that i mean no one was really aware that this was happening until thursday friday and the thing is temper has been around since two thousand and four and before last week you can go ahead you can google and you can go to trap wired dot com or dot net rather and find out all about them you can find out about abraxas but the reason that this is becoming so significant right now is last week we get leaks released a new batch of the strafford files that anonymous were able to uncover from the future forecasting intelligence company last year and there's a bunch of communication in there from stratford kind of touting this program is kind of like the be all to end all of big brother like this was this is how we're going to be able to watch everyone in the lake there they're talking like internal

communication and least in these e-mails that are allegedly part of the staff or attack there is same pretty much we can do anything at one point actually said in d.c. our capabilities are increasing every single day so a lot really isn't known about it let alone where the money's coming from we do know that d.h.s.s. and the d o d have been having some sort of financial ties to them it's really kind of have to go online and start going through this crazy like wormhole of information on trip wire and you'll be doing it and i should know with wiki leaks you know having this denial of service ok well also that's one thing that we can only speculate on right now with the leaks is being hit by d.d. o. s. attacks for roughly two weeks now and lest we could be less wednesday someone from the wiki leaks twitter account said we don't really know why we're getting hit we know we're getting hit with upwards of a bleep gigabits per second worth of traffic attacks and they said one of the reasons could be like a backlash for staff or e-mails that are about to come out sure enough twenty four

hours later that's when we start hearing this so is stratfor who you know is always had something against wiki leaks and says hack was delivered from anonymous to them few months ago. are they in orchestrating this infiltration together or you know it's no secret that a lot of people are opposed to wiki leaks a lot of people are opposed to julian assad which is how many different countries are fighting for him right now and how many different people are upset over the military documents that they've leaked so are they related we don't know but it also makes it that much more difficult to find out about trap wire so right now people all over the internet are trying to find a scrap way of trying to find out about abraxas trying to find out about kubrick there's all these companies but pretty much what you need to take away from this if anything is that right now across america there is a surveillance system that knows who you are in can watch you and it's sounds really really really creepy but that's what's happening but as of now under the data systems across the country are not all connected it's not

a few it's none of you know l.a. program sees your face that they can send it to d.c. right well i mean l.a. might not be able to necessarily send it to d.c. but that's actually where it gets a little creepy are these cities there are specific citywide law enforcement agencies have contracts with trip wire and abraxas one really interesting thing though is last year d.c. was putting together a proposal in order to acquire a couple thousand private business surveillance speeds that they would then have routed to the d.c. police department who in turn can then turn them over to trap where so in d.c. for example you have around three thousand cameras that are used in public schools you have cameras that are used as part of the department of transportation all those road cameras those like you know red light cameras those are going to trip wires so you're not safe right now certainly a lot of ways in which the connections of already been made and a lot of ways in which they're going to be made even more in the future are do you have produced or injured like thanks for breaking this down for the early days story. well let's talk now about some updates regarding the national defense

authorization act better known as and da why does attorneys have been in and out of court recently defending the provision in the n.d.a. regarding indefinite detention arguing that jailing americans indefinitely without trial in some instances is necessary for the safety and security of this country back in may federal court judge catherine forrest ordered a temporary injunction injunction on this section ten twenty one of the n.d.a. questioning the constitutionality of indefinite detention but when white house attorneys were questioned monday on whether or not they have a here to judge force injunction they were less than cooperative in responding to help talk more about this we're joined now by activists and journalists tangerine bolen who's also a plaintive in the case against n.d.a. and tendering tell me a little bit more about this latest news with the white house attorneys sort of being reluctant to disclose you know about these questions on section ten twenty one. well so i don't attend the hearing last tuesday but i did have

attorneys and several supporters who went to the hearing and a few incredible highlights came out about. why it is they added a new term which was her actual detention as a little bit more sinister conversation and definite attention which is about an already today actually stated on public record that you think war correspondents could be indefinitely detained and the n.d.a. should send huge alarm bells to every journalist everywhere story they actually said they actually refused to have i and once again with associated forces meetings and said that even if you're in the presence or another terrorist group just walking by so or in the vicinity you could be indefinitely detained and i mean most interestingly they actually came out when drunk forest asked and she was sure the courtroom that the n.c.a.a. section two hundred twenty one had not apply anywhere in the world as of the main

junction and they refused to provide those assurances so well let's break this down because as a lot of information you just get out there and i know ok so let's talk about i mean this is one of the most fascinating things to me when we talk about journalists war correspondents i know that the case is hedges the obama chris hedges being a journalist who says he himself could be targeted because he's had meetings he's had dinners and lunches and coffee with people considered to be. part of terrorist groups or associating with terrorist groups and he was just doing his job we've got him on the show several times talk a little bit about this what this means. in terms of journalist trying to get information out there in the future. well it's actually quite distressing because it's criminalizing an aspect of journalism if war correspondents can't do their jobs or it's left to the united states government to determine whether they're independent enough or not and refusing to design but that means it's quite showing

on first amendment speech so when you talk about also what happened last week which is the obama administration sort of refusing to answer the question about whether or not they've actually been abiding by this injunction what are the implications here. well the judge first actually turned around when that occurred and you do understand that the united states government will be held in contempt of court and unfortunately we can't prove whether the actions are what you want to apply or not so that maybe we don't want to get into but if we come through we certainly would. go that route and the implications of lawlessness. and so governments i mean if there are a federal judge's injunction that's lawlessness and it's no less than. i know a tender and you're a plaintiff in this case against the n.d.a. i guess tell us why you feel sort of in

a bigger picture here this. bill this piece of legislation signed on new year's eve has such an immense potential to impact you know the future of where this country is headed. well i can only speak from my own experience that the moment about was signed into law i just felt this deep sense of dread. i had to kind of wiki leaks i don't with them personally directly. the language of the law i think people like me and many other people directly in the crosshairs of the n.d.a. which is absolutely unacceptable i'm exercising my first amendment rights and my rights to be. first of all liberties so i think it just poses a grave threat to go our our intact rights and liberties and i think that a lot of people who agree with us and are just as disturbed as we are and secondly i'm going to the last group that the government attorneys admitted they painted me

in my. basically enemies of the united states for having dared to bring this case forward and i mean i think. along the same lines i mean certainly here at r.t. we have been covering this case pretty exhaustively for some reason this continues to get very minimal attention from the mainstream media and i know you know the national defense authorization act doesn't sound very sexy i know also that you know we're in election season and this is not an issue that will drive a wedge between the president and mitt romney they essentially from what i understand would have the same opinions about this i mean why though this is something that affects everyone in this country why do you think no one's talking about it. you know i think that's a great question i mean maybe it's just not a sexy enough issue i don't know it's not exciting or something obviously it's us it's exciting and it's an incredible song especially when you're able to view their records. you know i mean stream media just really seems to be reporting on

frivolous issues and there are concerns of so liberties and i mean. at this point then they are critical news and so unfortunately i think it's a systemic issue and we really need to obviously encourage mainstream you know to get back to what matters yes certainly one thing that those who are following this have even said is that this has the potential to to ruin and separation of powers by sort of moving this aspect of detention away from the judicial branch under the executive branch these these are huge things that are happening right now and we do appreciate you keeping us posted i know are you tweet about this quite a bit tangerine bowl and founder and director of revolution truth in a portland oregon thanks so much thank you. so at r.t. she's finding the system from within or attempting to anyway coming up we'll talk to the woman who's trying to end the foreclosure fraud by getting to the core of the issue.

well one of the battleground states in the upcoming presidential election will always be the state of florida and in addition to having a large number of seniors who vote and care deeply about issues like medicare and taxes florida also has one of the highest percentages of home foreclosures coming in second place with ninety one thousand falling only after california florida in many ways is a microcosm of what of what is going on across the country about to a larger degree and it turns out many foreclosures have taken place and have been deemed to be fraudulent so this means that the financial institutions in charge of monthly payment collection and to go shopping loan refinancing and modification they've been charged with what's called robo signing meaning they engaged in a large number of faulty practices forging signatures a switching dates and otherwise just messing up the paperwork to make it so that it justifies a foreclosure lease epstein is running for court clerk of courts in palm beach county florida and knows about some of these problems firsthand she joins us now to

talk about some of the issues here hey there lisa thanks for joining us from what i understand it you're not a typical politician by any means i know you were a nurse you lost your job and soon after you faced a foreclosure in your own home give me a few details about your story and how it's influence your decision to run for office. well my story starts with watching most nations or a medical or cold war of cancer battle or unconditionally mortgagor and you're willing to work with mike me in on their family he can more simple change can keep out level then when i see my herb situation i notice that i couldn't get anywhere and always hate all my bills on time with very savvy and then you continue to change very serious on started any way. so you know let's put some numbers out from where you're from where you are specifically palm beach county

things are pretty dire there in the first quarter of this year forty three percent of homes were considered to be underwater which means homeowners actually owe more on their mortgages than the homes are worth across the united states that number is thirty one point four percent so fifteen point million borrowers fifteen point seven million borrowers this is according to zillow says talk to me about some of the fundamental problems with what you found to be going on i think a lot of people thought that these problems would be fixed right there there is no solution in the help more formal for a more serious then a few minor typo we got last week the austin american property rights crossed all right that our founding fathers put in the founding of our car and without the americans. from the ground the ending up and saying this is wrong this was where are all this would be considered

a crime by the laws and a and by federal law you know we have that we're really not going to be much help for the marking family because our proportionally are going to ration almost elected officials. protecting the financial service. more important. i mean and i think that's a really really good point i mean we're talking about large corporations with large power we're talking about a problem that a whole lot of people have said they plan to deal with and and yet have and so let me ask you i mean as county clerk if elected and by the way we should tell our viewers the election is tomorrow. how much power would you actually have if you are in fact elected. well the clerk of the circuit court is a constitutional office in florida and i do not set policy but what i can do is number one with my class form citizens whom me to represent form open the

defense so for us that affects all of us it affects our property values in our county runs on property tax revenues property taxes are set on the value of a property owning a massive overlearning all the property we have one that is value is your specific shows we also have county elected officials across the nation starting to understand and up with people who are less than once awful so while there is not much one county official can do together county officials across the nation we can so ok we're not going to see much resolution or solution from the federal level we're not all see from the state level but there are people that really care enough step out of their comfort zone and run for office we have just big deal for the

north carolina john o'brien now the massachusetts bill meaning. register be out in california. there's a sheriff running sheriff elect me to serve in carroll county. north new hampshire christopher congress there are clerks in louisiana elected officials across the nation of ending up in within the duty function of their role dealing with aig but the bottom line leave it is as you say i mean individually some of these county officials don't have the power but let's let's be honest here this is an issue the president obama has spoken about times and time and time again and i want to play really quick him talking about a deal struck to help borrowers this is him back in february. we have reached a landmark settlement with the nation's largest banks that will speed relief to the hardest hit homeowners and some of the most abusive practices of the mortgage industry and begin to turn the page on an era of recklessness that has left so much

damage in its wake so we're talking about the settlement that was reached with banks like bank of america and what was supposed to come out of that it was supposed to reduce the amount people owe on their mortgage it was supposed to bree bring about lower interest rates and even pay restitution to homeowners who suffered at mortgage related abuses i guess i want to know to what extent you know since this settlement happened how have they have things changed where you are i'd like. your i've heard of what you're. getting from offer from the bank for help. provide balance he were in. a more. back. but every way you know your credit or not all. i i do want to play

something that your opponent you're running against sharon box she's the incumbent i want to play something she said really quick. as your elected chief financial officer and fiscal watchdog my highest priority is protecting your tax dollars in this economic environment those tax dollars must be stretch further than ever so it's important for you to know that i'm diligent in my efforts to increase efficiencies and reduce costs within my own organization. so she has in the past called herself its fiscal watchdog but is apparently receive donations from a company called lender processing services which has been sued for fraud on multiple occasions i guess i'm wondering first about your opponent sharon bach and also on a larger scale about other people in this position why they haven't taken on these big issues do you think that having to do with a well he lives on in credit he did receive a donation a contribution and i believe he returned that i was worried about the group he well

that's in fact need institution and lender processing services whether. it has the power and the regulatory capture over many of our prosecutorial. regolith we were to turn a general who fired to forty two we're investigating longer process. ongoing. that we're all looking into what what has to happen people have to be brave enough and are even. to put their own. you do your political future at risk because at the end we elect people to represent all right not just sorry lisa we're out of time but we sure do appreciate you coming on the show today lisa abstain candidate for the pond beach county clerk of courts on primary election is tomorrow and for us here that's going

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