your money or turn it into solid gold. request the gold and silver investors god. call today eight hundred two five seven gold. coming up this hour you heard it here r t uncovers the truth about a sophisticated surveillance program that can track your every move so smile for the camera because chances are big brother is watching parties and would like to break the story down for us. plus the latest details about the seemingly endless debate over the national defense authorization act better known simply as an d n a so we'll indefinite detentions become as american as apple pie we've got one of the plaintiffs in the case joining us to tell you what this means for civil liberties. and if you haven't heard who mitt romney's v.p. pick is by now well you've probably been living in a whole wisconsin tea party darling paul ryan has added a new flavor for

a verse of the republican campaign about his reputation isn't as squeaky clean as you might think i'll tell you what wiki leaks has dug up about. and the d.c. jail is going digital replacing face to face visits with video chat but is this a good idea it's a limited human interaction for inmates who haven't yet been convicted of a crime. it is monday august thirteenth ten pm in washington d.c. i'm christine and you're watching our team we are following some breaking news tonight we're awaiting that announcement from the president of ecuador rafael correia and whether he'll grant wiki leaks founder julian assange asylum in his country as you may remember assad has been staying inside the ecuadorian embassy in london for the last two months awaiting the decision. which korea said he would

make after the olympic games were finished caray is expected to speak any moment he may have started already and we just want to let you know that we will be keeping you posted on this decision just as a refresher as songes the founder of the whistle blowing web site wiki leaks which has been behind the releasing of thousands of classified documents as well as the collateral murder video he's currently wanted for questioning about allegations of rape and sexual assault in sweden the forty one year old the song she was originally from australia fears if he is extradited to sweden that he could then be extradited to the united states to stand trial for a spinning. due to those released documents on wiki leaks. has been staying on this story for quite a while now and this could be complicated because even if the president does decide to grant. political asylum it's questionable whether the british authorities would allow him to leave the country again but we'll keep you posted on any new

developments as they happen within this newscast. i want to tell you more about a previously top secret program used for the last several years in many major cities here in the united states there are a few different elements involved here we're talking highly technical facial recognition software close circuit cameras like the ones you may have seen you know in parks or on the sides of buildings and also former senior intelligence officials to collect information about people by recording them and then encrypting that information and instantaneously delivering it to a central database center to be aggregated with other intelligence and then mined for data by those former top officials people who used to work for the cia the f.b.i. and other organizations they were program is known as trap wire and was revealed by wiki leaks and a short time later the whistle blowing web site experience what's called distributed denial of service attacks that cut access to the site to

a large number of people now the hacktivist group anonymous put out a video about this and here's their take on this software is being used as a method by which to prevent terrorism which can of course also be used to provide precedented surveillance and data mining capabilities government. relations and other. uses technology. to do so. and it was our web right here at our team that has really been on this story getting the nuts and bolts out every day the story is called stratfor e-mails reveal secret widespread tromp wire surveillance program that story then referred to in plenty of other articles in publications like reason and salon and firedoglake and so we want to now break it down with web producer andrew blake himself he joins me now in studio hey there and

your i know this is henri it seems to have caught a lot of attention since you first reported on it last friday i guess just kind of break down some of the almost like too much attention like the way that this story has quickly spiraled out of control and just three days is almost a make believe but what's actually happening is science fiction so we kind of make sense so we have to back up to two thousand and four this company releases abraxas puts together this thing called trip wire and not a lot is known about it right now and it's still not the way it's been all week and we're people trying to dig up information we don't really know that much but we do know abraxas has this program called trap wire the vice president of intelligence there said it's more sophisticated than any facial recognition program out there and they can use these cameras to go in and track someone in brevard they're located in so far as the biggest myth politan cities across the united states so we're talking d.c. new york chicago los angeles las vegas and there's just the connections go so much

deeper than that too but so what they do is they monitor all these video streams they get sent to a database in center and they can go and they can zoom in on someone they can find out who they are and what they're doing and they can go back and they say they'll walk the katha back it go backwards go in time and they can start off with one suspicious activity report and go to see what this person's been doing and they can find out who these people are where they're going to go you know it's and these are not criminals or suspected terrorists i mean that's what that's why it was established they said this is here the abraxas started up. back in two thousand and four as a response to kind of like nine eleven but it's everywhere and what i see everywhere we're just starting to find out really how deep this goes because i'm abraxas kind of peculiar abraxas was acquired by another company based out of san diego called cubic cuba grab them a few years ago that was twenty ten one hundred twenty four million dollars which is nothing trefoil your system if you have it installed in certain cities certain

states they're spending hundreds of million dollars just just to have that going so cubic took a hold of a practice in turn getting trapped wire in turn being able to look at anyone anywhere in the city's places like d.c. where you can't swing a dead cat around without hitting something that's considered critical infrastructure sites whether it's like a part of energy satellite office or a d.h.s.s. a hotdog stand or something where anything around in d.c. is going to be considered critical infrastructure site and all these cameras in d.c. for instance are hooked up to the d.c. metropolitan police department who in turn feeds them to track lawyer and they have this massive intelligence database but that's one thing we really have to see how far back this goes because cubic also runs the transportation farecard systems in new york in d.c. in chicago and in los angeles so in a place like d.c.

or new york for example you have the same company where you give them your credit card and you bias their card and you get on the train can go anywhere within twenty miles you give that company your information and at the same time they have your face and they're watching you when you get off that train they can find you anywhere in the city and you're referring just a minute ago to the millions of dollars at this program cost where does this money come from from what i understand is often paid for by taxpayers i know l.a. mayor antonio goes it was talking about it recently and here's what he had to say. we all need to be vigilant and proactive in protecting our city from terrorist threats would los angeles consistently rank in the top the list of terrorist targets we need your help in keeping watch over our city i watch as a community program that partners you with law enforcement officials provides an easy way to report suspicious behavior and activities. so los angeles is believed to send about one point four million dollars for money on this talk

a little bit about the money and if taxpayers are even aware that i mean no one was really aware that this was happening until thursday friday and the thing is turbo has been around since two thousand and four and before last week you can go ahead and you can google and you can go to trap wired dot com or dot net rather and find out all about them you can find out about a breakfast but the reason that this is becoming so significant right now is last week we hit leaks released a new batch of the strafford files that anonymous were able to uncover from the future forecasting intelligence company last year and there's a bunch of communication in there from stratford kind of touting this program is kind of like the be all to end all of big brother like this was this is how we're going to be able to watch everyone and like there they're talking like internal communication and least in these e-mails that are allegedly part of the staff or attack there are same pretty much we can do anything at one point actually said in d.c. our capabilities are increasing every single day so

a lot really isn't known about it let alone where the money's coming from we do know that d h s and the d.o.d. have been having some sort of financial ties to them thrilly kind of have to go online and start going through this crazy like worm hole of information on traveler and you'll be doing it all the national with wiki leaks you know having this denial of service ok well also that's one thing that we can only speculate on right now we do leaks is being hit by d.d. o. s. attacks for roughly two weeks now and last week it was less wednesday someone from the week at least three recounts said we don't really know why we're getting hit we know we're getting hit with upwards of a bleep eighty gigabits per second worth of traffic attacks and they said one the reasons could be like a backlash for stratfor e-mails that are about to come out sure enough twenty four hours later that's when we start hearing this so is stress for who you know is always had something against wiki leaks and says hack was delivered from anonymous to them as you months ago. are they in orchestrating this infiltration together or

you know it's it's no secret that a lot of people are opposed to wiki leaks a lot of people are opposed to julian assad is how many different countries are fighting for him right now and how many different people are upset over the military doesn't that they've leaked so are they related we don't know but it also makes it much more difficult to find out about a trap or so right now people all over the internet are trying to find a trap or trying to find out about a breakfast trying to find out about q that there's all these companies but pretty much what you need to take away from this if anything is that right now across america there is a surveillance system that knows who you are and can watch you and it sounds really really really creepy but that's what's happening but as of now under the data systems across the country are not all connected it's not a few it's none of you know l.a. program sees your face that they can send it to d.c. right now well i mean l.a. might not be able to necessarily send it to d.c. but that's actually where it gets a little creepy are these cities there are specific citywide law enforcement agencies have contracts with the traveler and abraxas one really interesting thing

though is last year d.c. was putting together a proposal in order to acquire a couple thousand private business surveillance feeds that they would then have routed to the d.c. police department who in turn can then turn them over to trap water so in d.c. for example you have around three thousand cameras that are used in public schools you have cameras that are used as part of the department of transportation all those road cameras those red light cameras those are going to trust lawyers so you're not safe right now certainly a lot of ways in which the connections are even made and a lot of ways in which they're going to be made even more in the future are do you have particular injured like thanks for breaking this down for the early days story full of talk now about some updates regarding the national defense authorization act better known as and. why does attorneys have been in and out of court recently defending the provision in the n.b.a. regarding indefinite detention arguing. jailing americans indefinitely without trial in some instances is necessary for the safety and security of this country

back in may federal court judge katherine forrest ordered a temporary injunction injunction on this section ten twenty one of the n.d.a. questioning the constitutionality of indefinite detention but when white house attorneys were questioned monday on whether or not they have it here to judge forrest injunction they were less than cooperative in responding to help talk more about this we're joined now by activists and journalists tangerine bolen who's also a plaintive in the case against n.d.a. and tendering tell me a little bit more about this latest news with the white house attorneys sort of being reluctant to disclose you know about these questions on section twenty one. well so i don't attend the hearing last tuesday but i did have attorneys and several supporters who went to the hearing and a few incredible highlights came out about why it is they added a new term which was her actual detention as

a little bit more sinister conversation and definite attention which is about already today actually stated on public record that you think war correspondents could be indefinitely detained under the n d a which should send huge alarm bells after every journalist everywhere story they actually said they actually refused to have i and once again with us it was you could force it means even if you're in the presence or another terrorist group just walking by so or in the vicinity you could be detained and i mean most interestingly they actually came out when judge forrest asked and she was sure of the courtroom that the n.d.a. section twenty one had not been applied anywhere in the world as of the main junction and they refused to provide those assurances so well let's break this down because that's a lot of information you just get out there and i know ok so let's talk about i mean this is one of the most fascinating things to me when we talk about journalists war correspondents i know that the case is hedges the obama chris

hedges being a journalist who says he himself could be targeted because he's had meetings he's had dinners and lunches and coffee with people considered to be. part of terrorist groups or associating with terrorist groups and he was just doing his job we've got him on the show several times talk a little bit about this what this means. in terms of journalist trying to get information out there in the future. well it's actually quite distressing because it's criminalizing an aspect of journalism if war correspondents can't do their jobs or it's left to the united states government to determine whether they're independent enough or not and refusing to design but that means it's quite showing on first amendment. so when you talk about also what happened last week which is the obama administration sort of refusing to answer the question about whether or not they've actually been abiding by this injunction what are the implications here

. well judge for actually turn it around when that occurred and you do understand that the united states government will be held in contempt of court and unfortunately we can't prove. that what you want to apply or not so that maybe we don't want to get into but if we can through we certainly would. go that route and. lawlessness. as a government i mean if there are a federal judge's injunction that's lawlessness and it's no less than. i know a tender and you're a plaintiff in this case against the n.d.a. i guess tell us why you feel sort of in a bigger picture here this. bill this piece of legislation signed on new year's eve has such an immense potential to impact you know the future of where this country is headed. well i can only speak from my own experience that the moment was signed

into law i just felt this deep sense of dread. i had to kind of wiki leaks i really don't with them personally directly. the language of the law i think people like me and many other people directly in the crosshairs of the end which is absolutely unacceptable i'm exercising my first amendment rights and my rights to. first of all liberties so i think it just poses a grave threat to go out of our intact rights and liberties and i think that a lot of people who agree with this and are just as disturbed as we are and secondly i'm going to the last group that the government attorneys admit they've painted me in my. basically enemies of the united states or to bring this case forward and i mean i think. along the same lines i mean certainly here at r.t. we have been covering this case pretty exhaustively for some reason this continues

to get very minimal attention from the mainstream media and i know you know the national defense authorization act doesn't sound very sexy i know also that you know we're in election season and this is not an issue that will drive a wedge between the president and mitt romney they essentially from what i understand would have the same opinions about this i mean why though this is something that affects everyone in this country why do you think no one's talking about it. you know i think that's a great question i mean maybe it's just not a sexy enough issue i don't know it's not exciting or something. exciting and as if that incredible saga especially when you're able to view their records. you know mainstream media just really seems to be reporting on the issues and there are concerns are so large it is and i mean. at this point then there are critical news and so unfortunately i think it's a systemic issue and we really encourage me to get back to what matters yes

certainly one thing that those who are following this have even said is that this has the potential to to ruin the separation of powers by sort of moving this aspect of detention away from the judicial branch under the executive branch these these are huge things that are happening right now and we do appreciate you keeping us posted i know you tweet about this quite a bit tangerine boland founder and director of revolution truth in a portland oregon thanks so much let's talk now about a new program happening right here in washington d.c. the d.c. department of corrections is joining about one hundred other correctional institutions with what's called video visitation here's a little piece from the d.c. department of corrections explaining what this is all about the department of corrections video visitation center is housed within the d.c. general hospital complex adjacent to the d.c. jail in southeast washington d.c. those wishing to visit inmates housed at the jail are no longer required to stand in long lines undergo extensive security check or be subject to pat down searches

to enter the facility instead with video visitation with family members friends and other visitors simply set a visitation appointment by telephone or through the internet. so the deal for this technology was reached between the d.c. city council and a company called global tel link global telling installed it for free and according to the department of corrections the calls are also free and the purpose is to quote make the jail run more efficiently i guess now is ivy fake and stan a staff attorney with the d.c. prisoners project idea welcome to the show i know the prisoners d.c. prisoners project has spoken out against this technology what are your concerns i just want to say it's a d.c. prisoners project of the washington lawyers committee for civil rights and urban affairs ok and i'm proud that we have a fairly long title but we're speaking out about this primarily because it replace is all visitation in person at the jail rather than being a supplement to the existing visitation policy so instead of being able to go into

the same room with your loved one and see them through a partition you are separated by five hundred yards across the street in another building and then have to call in by videophone when you make of these arguments oh these are these are what does the department of corrections is saying that it's more comfortable for prisoners that it saves the g.o.c. four hundred twenty thousand dollars and it's generally a more efficient system well efficiency is yet to be tested it's shiny and new so we don't really know exactly what's going to happen if there is some sort of a breakdown in the technology or when staff gets overrun with the how many people may be coming in or the online registration system breaks down or something like that in terms of it's comfort for family and friends that it may be the case that it might have more air conditioning or in may alleviate having to stand in lines or

be searched however that doesn't really replace a child being able to go up to the window and speak to their father or their their loved one and to be able to do that in a really more private intimate way one thing that you meant. and was the cost it is actually not there the department of corrections has said there is no cost to the clients to the to the prisoners or the families however global telling can't really be doing this for free that's what i was going to ask you i mean of course a big communications company wants to make money somehow so is this something where it's going to be free just for the first year or i mean have you guys looked into this a prisoner to have been afraid that that's what's going to happen like it's going to be a bait and switch the department of corrections has gone on the record and said that's not the case we have discovered that global tel link actually runs a program that if you contract with them exclusively for your telephones not this

video visitation system they will basically give you this as a perk of using them as their exclusive contract what that means is that in the competitive business bidding process maybe families could have gotten lower rates on their regular telephone calls with their with their loved ones but instead they're getting a higher rate of telephone call in those regular phone calls and then the partner of corrections is getting this basically kickback now i think it's important what you mention that this is not a program where family members can choose either one of you to face to face or i don't want to wait in line so it is completely replacing the face to face as is and i know that the federal bureau of prisons has even said that face to face visits are important for prisoners and some of the prisons that are adopting this do have the option to talk a little bit about the significance that this is the only option here in d.c. because the district of columbia is unique among jurisdictions this is extremely

important for keeping family connections d.c. unlike maybe maryland right next door virginia sends all of its prisoners who have a felony conviction into the federal bureau of prisons the closest location where you can visit some. buddy who is in the b o p is in winton north carolina just south of the virginia border or in cumberland maryland if anyone's ever been out to see creek lake they know that that's a pretty hefty drive in of itself also these people are mostly in rural areas so even if you wanted to go visit your family member in west virginia it would be in a location that would be hard to travel too expensive to stay overnight so this means that this window of opportunity that they have while their loved one is local in the d.c. jail is exceptionally important for their family connections i guess you know i looked around a little bit to see why this policy change was necessary and i couldn't really find a substantive reason given for why the switch was made what do you see well now

that i know that global telling is involved i actually think it has a lot to do with the contracting with the telephones not just not the video phones but the telephones so that in the video in the bidding process to get a telephone contract the district has made this choice to get a basically a bonus from their contract instead of changing the cost to the families and lowering that cost are there also concerns though that with these video chats that these will be i mean when we talk about the d.c. prison these are people who have been arrested but not yet convicted as you say so i mean what if you know the prisoner says something to a loved one on a video chat cannot be used as evidence in a court in a court case it's very possible that these could be recorded one of the reasons that the department of corrections wanted to do this was or the stated reasons rather is that it would be more secure and the phone calls that people make from

the prison are monitored and it's possible that these video chats could also be recorded for later preservation very very interesting stuff as you say a lot of whole lot here yet to be determined but we appreciate you talking about what you guys know so far i do think instead staff attorney at the d.c.'s prisoner project thanks so much my pleasure. glowin to give you an update on some breaking news we've been following tonight the president of ecuador president rafael correia is speaking right now on a program called. which means loose words here's a live look at this interview he's being interviewed by a reporter named xavier lasso and a whole lot of people have been tuning in tonight because as you may recall president korea said he was going to make an announcement after the olympic games were completed on whether or not he would grant julian assange the founder of wiki leaks asylum in his country as you may know as we told you about at the beginning

of the show assad has been living in the ecuadorian embassy in london for about the last two months he is trying to avoid extradition to sweden where he's wanted for questioning related to a sexual assault he also fears that if he does go to sweden that he could then be extradited to the united states that he could stand trial under the espionage act for some of those classified documents that were released on wiki leaks so again this is a live feed of this interview happening on ecuadorian state t.v. a whole lot of people tuned in the majority of their conversation has been about the olympics the president saying he was sad he wasn't able to watch the majority of the olympics and there was one question and the question was asking the president president if he had made a decision about whether or not to grant a songe asylum and he simply said he was going to have more meetings this coming wednesday and that he'd make a quote informed decision by the end of this week we have been following this story

a whole lot of chatter on twitter tonight of course people wondering what the interview is about and because this has been so soon after the olympic games a lot of people speculating that he would in fact to give an answer tonight again he says he'll make quote and. informed decision on the fate of a songe on whether or not this will happen and back in two thousand and ten. actually offered. asylum and of course he didn't take it so again this is a live feed of that interview on the show. xavier lasso interviewing ecuadorian president rafael correia of course we will keep you posted on everything that happens as it unfolds later in this week we don't expect you know anything before wednesday but we did want to bring you that update this is a story of course that we've been following since day one and a whole lot of people it seems looking for answers this evening but for us here for

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