her chin well well here is the place of birth or any other criteria to suppose that one of the protection hat bands when they state that grants asylum. can see there's that there is a risk and of course i fear for that person to be a big theme of political persecution with death or whatever other kind of got a punishment of a seal you guys were they so they still we that they the country that receives the first ones should ask sas on their request and based on that make up the siege and asylum is a fundamental right and it belongs not unless you better to the sacks of rules that should be recognised at an international level so that you soon the rules to follow which pushes you know that i need to learn because of the simple overrides any other local regulations that opposed to these are not the legal know poignantly that lead long to put a local government or no local lol can be used to the night the right to asylum to

any person etc can see there are some signs of that in these case but you see below the must be asylum of the main chute the follow on is constant you did by all of the french principles that we have mentioned and that are stated in a law that the different tools for the respect of human rights it protects their right to the possibility to look forward to receive and enjoy asylum to learn the right to asylum and the rights of refugees should be recognised and there's a right not to be extradited that was before expelled from any country is really good and to the conditions that regulate the right to extradition explains all one of them and they protection to not be extradited to sweden only committed all of them are there in the middle so they will have to mentally and emotionally it's it's something surprising that there are all of these many tools. means protecting

this kind of situation the political junkies the cells would be the people who stood still who would have been in the situation have expressed their desire to state up are these that we'll want to put together and i mean to sit down for the name and we'll be as we were connected into the will and that will give single on impredicative the fundamental law of sense to these rights or to these regulations to use clippings a lady to hold her man to some of these tools are the following we listen to what and they see the bill of humor a of today a united nations they believe human rights and the end mary kensi bill of the rights of many women when they listen to what in the english lesson is still sort of the two brothers held in their convention the only refugees thank you fifty one one day live near your protocol in six to seven the convention of this on

diplomatic asylum in one thousand and sixty four the year that the convention on the territory list of these there europeans is a dream and being gone next for the show to the a living goes into facilities did the commision here know sort of the day the vienna convention on this in the one the treaty c nineteen sixty nine or the must even see below the regulations and principles of international right including the single who will build a gentleman political in bengal see the one of those that hold her right in need of the ruler treaty is the sooner we know that a post says this that he will corrected all of the balances then the every treaty that exists that school is conflicted with these will be overridden that what he says another thing by article sixty four little missouri police alone and the convention alice arise says the stay still aboard the international because d.c. to comply. to the international in the heart of justice them and out of the

bungalow he filmed accepting losing his work due to the situation of the court. usually the commissioner many got to sort of the also the american convention on human rights in one thousand sixty nine one of the say european common then it's unsafe for fighting terrorism he said that says because he's with this day telling unless these terms you can't deny extra they shun because when that person they set the risk of being pursued or punished because of their political opinions they still live in those into which in the us another we cannot do that nobody is perfectly at african be alone the rights of here the human beings in the country living on another bill and fundamental rights to them by european union in the year two thousand and eight and the government of the end of it what are the bills once to highlight that the rule is that the rules stated in these tools such as the

meanings so what is eventually are added above would be to any internal local regulations. and i'll proceed to do what he listed while sitting on your bed till monday based on tangible of the right some values to do this against on the lateral attitudes by of the state of the international it while it might be as it is for this that i'm sure the strength in the middle is single so you will see on the internationals who that did any good politics or modeling on the other hand so does the us in the mr assange shelter requested asylum to edward or to me and he has a list of the five which is a country that has kept my very good as a dialogue on relationship with stephen and with that you kate neil as well up until now he does when he was honest different distinguished absolutely geezer who are in peace for a stand she's. after the trial on the legal process that is starting to sway then

some of these guarantees have been one says he's telling the local that he's not extradited to a third country again this is they weren t. that a leg to stand up to get us not figure of a special people not to be a fly on the deck for elaine hill any woman get hold of the kid in about the u.k. when he calls me down to set a neighbor continually to communities showed a willingness to reach an agreement that is the one who does this we can they have requested to this to a dish cover a man with a good will that is illegal but i hope that nobody is showing us who to trust and whether made it clear first we'd then badly wanted to have an interview with them and we didn't want to be an obstacle in the legal process that is started there we don't want to interfere in whatever is happening there and we're not going to hope to hear the phrase so this you know as it should then be the next sept our

proposal will be a little cynical if the listener dealers cut their request it is someone who aren't used from sweden so that he wouldn't be extradited to the united states recently this is. and they rejected any a commitment team vs in the sense to still sort of brushless ours will form the sort of deal i'll see in. season if it's really there would be a legal process if there is a little crosses the bell a ping or your listeners deal with against julian assange and the founders of we can lease leases to you in the case and this is true what kind of collaboration and in what can be shows this would these people be subject to children the supreme and for if there is any intention of requesting extradition to the united states the answer of the united states is with us the wise that they cannot hear any information about the astonished. they are saying that this is sad bill lateral

with each shoe and between the weather and the u.s. on the ecuadorian government by listening to the told you what is defending its political right to protect the signage especially and we have decided to grant political asylum to him. on a letter. to city saying julian assange based on the request that was presented to the president of the republic through a written document from london with the interest in june two thousand and twelve because of the well it will be in the will to be handled through which they equipped orient governmental the rest of the field has assessed us assign each side of the situation assistance of the what is already planned in these youth committee meetings we a week on the state that there is a risk that he can be persecuted politically and that he fears if he

is fearing a nobody down the course of an order we have here with a reason for it so. the u.k. government should respect the decision of the government and we trust that the u.k. will offer the necessary war and peace and this government a strong enough good americans who will be in the show that both cover man it's a living hell eventually you're going to join interest you can't act on adequately and properly respecting zang international rights on the rights of asylum we also trust that's the last indians got there excellent relationship that we have between the two countries will continue to be so and will remain intact because you can do a lot of people based on the same principle some values that we have shared. about democracy and the peace because of the simple seamless life quality. that are only

possible if we respect the fundamental rights of everybody. by that we have a live on the one question and also we are waiting to hear now since the middle of june and that was the ecuadorian the minister of foreign affairs had a kind of open to know regarding it regarding julie massages a request for asylum in ecuador a vast asylum request has been granted with the study by france right outside the ecuadorian embassy it's big news laura do tell us what is the reaction where you are now with all the demonstrators and protesters in attendance. gets very noisy and is go even noisier since this decision has been made actually you've just missed the protesters old walking past behind me and they're shouting hands off ecuador amongst other things of course in relation to the proposed filming of the ecuadorian embassy by the brazil thora seas and if we can just pan over there a little bit you can see that bit more of them that there's a quite

a large actually ecuadorian contingent that has the rights quite recently and days processed is. standing there with banners obviously this is what these people have been waiting for some of them i recognize from when we first started covering this case eighteen months to two years ago and they've been coming to the embassy intermittently over the last two months to see how julian assange is getting on camping outside so this is the moment that everybody's been waiting for but still as you heard from the from the ecuadorian foreign minister's statement this isn't over and there's still the question of how do the innocents will get at the door that was obviously a very hard school statement that we just heard particularly in the first part to these people the old asking themselves how is today in a sounds good to get out of the embassy and get to the door where he has finally been granted asylum yes i mean that really is the big question now people are saying well he's he's been granted asylum with ecuador but he's not out of the woods yet how does he get. out indeed will have to dell further into that here want

to see laura lorson with her life for us outside the ecuadorian embassy in london many many thanks indeed. let's get some more details on this now as you've been announcing the breaking news here on r.t. julian sancerre is asylum requests in ecuador has now been granted let's get some more details on this with a law professor spence joining us live here on the program thanks for coming on r t today do you think is it possible for assad to get out of the ecuadorian embassy in london without any trouble from the u.k. officials. i don't think anybody knows the answer to that question you know going to. move to. the extradition of mr and so. clearly. truthful or even. the supreme court to be extradited. the matter is being here it could be ecuador in government's decision to grant him asylum. but the matter is clearly.

as you say as you say the matter is clearly not if i may i do apologize for interrupting you but as we were listening to the ecuadorian foreign minister ricardo patino he was saying that ecuador is a sovereign state it is fully within its rights to make a clear decision on a songe it said that nowhere in the world can threats blackmail or aggression be used in diplomatic channels that there's been no apology from the u.k. and the u.k. has overstepped its bounds what legal basis does the u.k. have for storming the embassy if indeed it does to go and arrest assigns. well one hopes that it won't take a course of action. the u.k. is relying on the diplomatic and consular premises act of one thousand nine hundred seventy and that act says that the minister for foreign affairs of the u.k. withdrew the authorization for the continuation of the diplomatic mission. there are only certain grounds on which it can do that it can do it if the mission is

being used for some purpose that is inconsistent with the normal purposes of which is a diplomatic mission or if there is something occurring you know within the mission of that constitutes a threat to national security or if there is something occurring within the mission that is a threat to public safety now the question is does this situation fit any of those three criteria. well certainly and whether it comes to the issues of of does it match the criteria i think many people are now asking ok so assad has been granted asylum to ecuador what's next for the water boy let's say for example he does actually somehow get out of the ecuadorian embassy in london he makes sick to ecuador can he continue his work do you think all do you think he might just shrug his shoulders and say enough of this i want a normal life. i think from i'm going to meet mr rose on. what i can only take. an ounce of from the observation that i make of him now over

a considerable period of time he seems to be a very determined individual it wouldn't surprise me at all if we wish to continue his work in ecuador now whether he would be able to do that and comply with fairly strict restrictions on freedom of speech and it could be or is yet another question that now remains to be answered well now we're now getting just now part of the press here from the british foreign office quote it is regrettable that ecuador has taken this decision the best way forward is to seek a negotiated settlement and then and yet here we are. with the u.k. act of aggression towards the ecuadorian embassy being condemned by ecuadorian officials saying that the way the u.k. has behaved is in violation of the nine hundred seventy six council all diplomatic relations we all know that america has been very very proactive in trying to get their hands on a songe some some politicians on capitol hill even calling for julian or songe to

be shot what do you think is the reaction behind closed doors on capitol hill right now. it is very difficult to say because the united states government has in effect made no statement whatsoever about whether or not legal proceedings will be issued against mr are sort of reasonable grounds to suspect. grand jury in virginia has been considering the matter actually no one knows. what the legal process of the united states has been and. whether or not the u.s. authorities that finally made any decision to take legal action against him that's another matter remains for further consideration without without also getting a comment here from from president caray of ecuador tweeting regarding the standoff with the u.k. quote no one is going to terrorize us at the end of the day there are some people that say that all of this debacle and all of that all of this drama around you in

a solid actually is much bigger than the impact of the wiki leaks releases that were put out on the internet would you agree with that. well yes i do agree with that particularly in the current circumstance because now what we have. is a major disruption true diplomatic relations between two sovereign countries the united kingdom and ecuador and no doubt are through the major disruption of diplomatic relations between ecuador and sweden so the matter becomes a bigger more complex and more uncertain by the minute all right a law professor spence checker thank you very much indeed for joining us from melbourne live on our team today thank you thank you. our author and journalist who recently spoke to julian assange and he also featured actually in one of the whistleblowers our final interview shows of course that was an exclusive r.t. program it's where they centered on one of main issue that of activism is something

that our lead now believes is under siege like never before i think we have now in different parts of the world including the western world clamp down on just sent to a culture in which we live in the way of steam world today the official culture is deeply hostile to whistleblowers to hackers where in the public interest and democracy everywhere is being hollowed out just think if a similar situation was going on in beijing all moscow or some other capital and a dissident in moscow or between had taken refuge in the british embassy. be it russian government or the chinese government or some other government not regarded in the pockets of the west said we can actually read your embassy and take this guy out you can just imagine the response there would have been in the media.

well a bit earlier at our two we spoke to an activist author on the political consultant out of a naomi wolf who actually signed a petition to support julian assange in her interview she said the wiki leaks case shows how solid seeing the truth had been a priority for both the bush and obama administrations in washington the bush administration begins trajectory. seventy years ago by saying ok we're going to start to reactivate the espionage act but what's so dangerous we have been warning people about for years is that a journalist's job is to publish classified information journalists like first of all this is a white house now to a house is obama's and bush's which is systematically overclassifying everything especially wrong doing it specially anything related to what whistleblowers want to release specially you know torture that they've engaged in methods of torture fraud corruption they're classifying it it's not national security information it's the

government using classification as a way of protecting its own corruption and frauds like mafia tactics can't believe it's come to this the government is same to journalists everywhere in america we're going to do you and we're going to threaten you and we're we're threatening you with with serious legal penalties like prison time if you do your job. live from moscow this is our brewery sushi welcome to the program we are covering now the breaking news story here on r.t. the news just in that the wiki leaks leader that of a julian assange in mid june he put his request for asylum to the ecuadorian embassy in london and we now know from moments ago from what a cut of the open teano the ecuadorian foreign minister the julian assad his asylum request has been granted but the does not mean that he is out of the woods by any stretch of the imagination the british foreign office has threatened to storm the

ecuadorian embassy in london and take by force the foreign minister for ecuador speaking live from quito the capital of ecuador saying that ecuador is a sovereign state that no country particularly the u.k. has any right to blackmail threaten or act in an aggressive way in diplomatic channels saying that up until now ecuador and the u.k. had enjoyed a diplomatic friendship but now sees clouds looming on the horizon of course it was in just two months ago now the julian assange put in his or his request for asylum in ecuador now the question is can he get safe passage from the ecuadorian embassy in london to an airport to get himself on a plane to go to ecuador well addressing threats now from the u.k. that it was prepared to storm the ecuadorian embassy to get its hands on a songe foreign minister pitino to make sure those threats do not go unpunished.

national law can be used in this way in an interesting way in any diplomatic facilities in any place of the world it shouldn't be used to threaten or blackmail the sovereignty of any other country and they called a summit to try to deal with this threat and cordon made it at a regional level and so that these fact does not go unpunished. i just to quickly remind you of our breaking news top story here on our t.v. the world's number one a wiki leaks whistleblower julian assange has moments ago been granted asylum in ecuador more details to come we'll see you in just a few minutes. please tell. me i'm.

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