think you. really think. that one day after being granted political asylum wiki leaks co-founder julian a song trapped in the ecuadorian embassy in london belated details on this developing story straight ahead and. the space x. falcon nine rocket as nasa turns to the private sector to resupply the space. plus get ready for the next great space race this fight for the final frontier in the between countries but company it's one small step first space exploration one giant leap towards privatization and is it possible to hack the mars rover from websites to spacecraft there's a buzz over a possible out of this world cyber attack and here on earth

a hacktivist group val's to take down a massive global surveillance system. and it's friday august seventeenth four pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wahl and you're watching r t we begin today with the latest in the case of wiki leaks whistleblower julian a sausage assad remains inside the ecuadorian embassy in london where he's been seeking refuge for two months this is a day after ecuador announced it would grant asylum to a songe but getting from the embassy to the airport is proving to be a challenge if not impossible for a songe the u.k. ballasts to arrest him the moment he steps foot outside of the embassy this has outraged a songes supporters think you are wrong. me

there are some of the sights and sounds unfolding today outside of the embassy more protests and more arrests while ecuador and the u.k. remain in a diplomatic impasse where does the united states stand in all this r.t. white house correspondent christine for south has the details. liz once again no word from the white house regarding julian assange and or the decision by the president of ecuador to grant him political asylum we did however here yesterday from the state department officials there insisting the u.s. government is in no way involved this is an issue between the ecuadorian the brits we've got it on have anything particular to do with regard to the charge that the u.s. was intent on persecuting him i reject that completely but it's not just a lack of information about julian a song reporters both covering the white house in washington and both the president and governor romney on the campaign trail have been extremely frustrated in trying to get serious questions answered really in terms of getting any access at all now

you may remember the incident just a few weeks ago when governor romney was in israel and reporters were asking him questions you know doing their job really and they were scolded by romney's aides are having their last. longer for governor just a bit for the. way. you feel. trapped right now as far as president obama he's been seen in recent days on entertainment tonight he's spoken to people magazine but it has been quite a while since he's taken questions from the white house press corps and as someone who attends these briefings on a regular basis i can tell you firsthand a lot of reporters here are getting very frustrated we've heard from the president terms of the full scope of the words and what. the topics of access and transparency list are certain to become bigger issues as we move ahead here just recently aides for by. president biden tried at it what were in poor

ports poor reports of course written by reporters for reporters to sort of help share the duties so again a lot of frustration here when it comes to reporters trying to do their jobs i think jonathan martin with politico said it best when he said that this twenty twelve campaign is starting to be embodied by the consuming effort by operatives to stamp the spontaneity and life out of modern politics. in washington i'm christine for r.t. . r t under attack our international web site r t dot com went down today after a massive video last attack a hacker group calling itself anti leaks is taking responsibility on twitter the attack disrupted our team's coverage of the pussy riot trial trial the now notorious punk rock band that stage a protest at russia's christ the savior cathedral those of our lads a wiki leaks tweeted quote wiki leaks condemns the attempt to censor r t r t is an

important alternative voice in the west archies town bar and has the story if you tried to go to auntie's website today you may well see this message instead of the actual website that's the result of a d.d. o. s. cyber attack which struck many hours ago and has made r.t. dot com on available around the world on twitter the group calling itself until leaks is claiming responsibility for the attack they linked in their tweets to the topics june songe and wiki leaks they also made a joke about the show hosted on r.t. saying that they wanted to see him smoking cigars and drinking whiskey but that they weren't able to because of this attack those and other tweets indicate that they wanted to stop artie's coverage of the granting of diplomatic asylum to the wiki leaks founder by ecuador's embassy in london a d.d. o. s. or distributed denial of service attack is where attackers use remotely controlled computers around the world to flood a website with too much traffic for it to handle until leaks has previously

attacked wiki leaks his site itself would didio us as well but they say that their primary target is julian assange himself describing him as a new breed of terrorist the group says they're based in the usa there's much speculation as to who until leaks actually are. and update their arts he is back up and running after that hack attack that was our tease tom barton. well looks like the space race is taking on a whole new meaning once a symbolic of a country's political proud west the space race seems to be becoming a commercial race and sasa retired its space shuttle program last year about a dozen companies have stepped up to develop space shuttles to explore the front final frontier most notably space x. which launched its spacecraft into the international space station last spring so what are the pros and cons of opening up space to private companies to discuss this joining me now is jonathan card executive director for the space frontier

foundation jonathan welcome so what are the benefits of bringing the private sector into the space race one of the major pieces that the private sector can bring to this is a specialty in systematizing and streamlining the way that we. conduct operations. one of the problems that nasa is facing is that in developing their new s.l.s. launcher they're taking budget away from all of the science and engineering research that nasa does that moves the. technology frontier forward now i know that your foundation the space frontier foundation the goal is to transform space from this government own bureaucratic program and to you know one that is more inclusive an open up this frontier to more people what is out there for humans what is space

frontier what do you open a find. what's out there there are asteroids near earth that have more platinum and platinum group metals than have ever been mined on earth. many of the most valuable metals that we have here are only accessible because of asteroids that have crashed into earth we're going to where those valuable resources live so a lot of our problems in energy and in mineral resources can be solved by going out into space and bringing them back. we can also we've also already benefited from things like. you know telecommunications and things like x x m and sirius radio that allow information to get around the earth much better all right so it seems like there is a lot of possibilities out there what are the values and commercializing space exploration and making space travel available for regular people do you think it

will make this mission more feasible i think a lot of the question needs to be i think part of your question needs to be turned on its head. if we're not doing this to the people what's the point. if we're not going into space so that most people can go so that this becomes a place that humanity can expand to. what is the purpose. of any of this. stephen hawking has made the point that if we're in so much danger of hurting ourselves here on earth we need more than just the earth in order to live on something serious happens to the earth from global warming to nuclear war we need to we need humanity to be more than in just one basket. but all in one basket so is certainly setting your sights high there what kind of a timeframe are we looking at when people can start making flight our bets.

my thought on that is these things always happen later than you think and when they happen they happen faster than you expect. we have a there's a company called planetary resources that expects to start. traveling to near earth asteroids to mind. and start collecting these resources within a few years. there have been planned for space stations and prototype space stations there's actually a prototype private space station already up in space now. when things start to come together they're going to come together very quickly and i expect it to be soon just as you say that and how soon are we talking. there are some companies that expect to be on the moon by two thousand and twelve moon express does planetary resources expects to be up there in the next three to five.

i'm personally going to be surprised bigelow aerospace is space stations don't have regular customers if not permanent settlers in the next ten years speaking of customers jonathan how badly do you say the market is for commercial space exploration. the company space adventures which sells access to the space station through. the russian space program has sold just about every seat they've been able to get ahold of from the space from the russian space program. there are a lot of people with a lot of money who want to go now and the more people that go now. the more people without a lot of money can go soon. and i think there is a large market from biotech research. tourists and settlers that. want to go because they just want to go well when we say that we're opening it up

to more people i mean what do we do need by that exactly how much would it cost how accessible are you seeing space becoming. right now we are dropping the cost of space access by about it to about a tenth of what it's been on the space shuttle space x.'s advertising rates of two to three thousand dollars a pound when on the shuttle it was about ten thousand dollars a ton. so it's dropping very quickly there are. flights to go suborbital e for two to three minutes of weightlessness. that are going for about one hundred thousand to two hundred thousand dollars a ticket. when previously that wasn't even on the market it wasn't available to people so getting to space in various ways getting to space for longer and longer

duration the prices are coming down dramatically and opening up to more and more people now to have a thousand dollars sounds like a lot but that really opens it up to a lot more people compared to infinity it's much slower compared to infinity fair enough so what types of tech innovations are we seeing from existing private companies for example like space x. or virgin galactic. we're seeing some really great advances in the technology new kinds of engines new kinds of guidance. there's a company called master narrows mass and space systems for instance that has a completely ai control vertical takeoff vertical landing rocket that. had a very successful flight earlier this week part of what's exciting about space x. inversion is not their. technology advances but bringing in new manufacturing techniques that the rest of the commercial sector has already adopted

but the space sector hasn't. and bringing virgin's ability to communicate with the public has been very excited but right leslie donovan just want to ask you because you know typically the space race when you think of the space race you think of you know some of the world leaders aiming to make their mark in space you know we saw the pride associated with landing on the moon you know with space becoming or space travel becoming privatized how does that change that dynamic. i'm sorry changes the dynamics i mean in terms of like what the space race what it means to be part of this space race. i think we have every right. to continue to be proud of what we've done with the apollo program. but what's important here is not to try to inspire people to the point here is to do great things that are

inspirational. and the more we get used to doing something the farther of the more spectacular things we can accomplish there saying i'm not a competition this is for the good this for the good of mankind exactly and the easier it is to get the low earth orbit the easier it is to put a man on the mars or on titan or some other great remarkable achievement that's going to be the new apollo program right hopefully that's that's where it does them jonathan thank you so much for coming on the show that was jonathan cardia executive director for the space frontier foundation. also had an r t you'd have to be a well funded state sponsored genius to pull it off but it happening and to and taking control of the mars rover the impossible without question or that.

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might actually be time revolution. and it turns out that a killer drink at starbucks has a surprising. margy is the state run english speaking russian channel it's kind of like al-jazeera. russia today has an extremely confrontational stance when it comes to us. we just put a picture of me when i was like nine years old so if you told the truth.

i am a total get a friend that i would grab because he is a one trick. i think is kind of yesterday. i'm very proud of the world with its place. from hacking websites to hacking spacecraft the hacker group anonymous has reportedly threatened to hack nasa mars rover curiosity curiosity now on the red planet trying to find out if conditions there ever allowed for life but many groups believe the hacking threat is fake this after anonymous vows to shut down trap wire a massive global surveillance network to talk more about the latest in the

hacktivist world r.t. web producer and you're blake joins us now hi andrew is that still could hack that this really hack into a spacecraft on mars i mean anyone can do anything i mean if you reverse engineer anything you don't like if you have the technology to put it there you have the technology to take it down it's that simple we can essential we do anything i don't see why not but the way in the reason this all started developing was back around a week or two ago someone at p.c. mag. light edition they wrote that oh if you really wanted to happen. curiosity out of curiosity this is how you would do it and they kind of pinpointed step by step well if you know you can get three hundred if you can send a signal with four hundred thousand kilowatts to three hundred fifty miles away and you know how to do that i mean essentially rocket science because that's really what it is so they publish the saying that well if you really have all the means to

take down this billion dollar craft you probably already know how to do it but they leave it out for everyone and allegedly someone with this security consulting firm called flashpoint cost a regular anonymous person in a chat room talking about it and kind of sent thousand a.p.b. thing oh hackers are going to do it they're going to do it it's out there and it's going to happen and which is pretty much just unfounded they're just reported on you know a paragraph that someone typed in a chat room about lego hey let's let's let's let's say ok rovers rumors of anonymous actually doing the hacking you're not buying into that no no not at all i mean we know that there's the possibility that someone will be able to do over the possibility that you know someone do anything i could easily just flip over this well maybe not easily but i could flip over the state i don't want to do that but so does this say that someone could do it absolutely why not and someone explained how it just takes the kind of resources and money and know how that you would

really have to have like anybody can just hack into the mars rover you know not just a run of the mill should know this is if you ask any this is kind of like another attempt to label anyone that's being considered a hacker not even just a hacktivist that just anyone is you know just another terrorist of the country who is has this crazy ability to do anything that they want in they're going to use it to take down the space program so that you know traditionally. anonymous usually has some kind of a motive in terms of which who they plan to attack and you know government agency or somebody basically it pissed them off and i was really. no it isn't actually there are no or anonymous to hack there over the service and if you ask me i mean i don't speak on behalf of anyone other than myself but when you go out there and look at the facts why would this loose knit international collective of hacktivists go all men we hate science lots of room in science so it doesn't make any sense so like i said the technology is there or the know how is there but to say that this

endeavor is actually likely i think is absolutely ridiculous and kind of just fear mongering on the part of the mainstream media who wants the world to be weary of hackers and activists and i mean might very well be just another ploy in this whole step to trying to introduce cybersecurity legislation because they're worried that people are going to get insider information and actually actually take this into their own hands. want to move on because there's something else i want to talk about speaking of hacking and cyber security something you have been keeping a close eye on trap why or what is the latest on that front. that's a good question a lot of people still don't know about trump lawyer and that's kind of almost as terrifying as trip wire itself for those watching at home who don't know about it it's been seven or eight days now since we discovered by going through e-mails allegedly obtained by anonymous hackers that there is

a global surveillance system that was licensed to the white house to canadian authorities to scotland yard to to local law enforcement law enforcement agencies across the country and this trap wire surveillance system uses technology and egrets it with publicly available data in kind of track to anyone anywhere at any time for any reason so that exists according to these e-mails and according to publicly available information and it's been eight days now and no one really seems too scared but it sounds scary it does. scary but luckily i shouldn't say no one sounds too scared because there is a campaign right now to revolt against this whole thing a lot of have to this have taken to the web and kind of put out a call for our missis say that this trip wire thing this thing that no one is reporting on seems kind of scary we should do something about it so for instance right here in washington d.c.

documents that we found through these e-mails that were hacked from the strategic forecasting or stratfor they were then distributed to wiki leaks who published them recently and if you go through there we can see that the metropolitan police department in washington d.c. they bought into this trap where program which means that the d.c. surveillance cameras can use this face recognition software and can use these data mines to find anyone deemed suspicious and you know profile them and they're saying you know there's these cameras everywhere in places like d.c. new york l.a. chicago london all across canada across texas. what are we going to do about all these cameras if we don't know that much about the system is there something that we can do so right now there is an active campaign on the internet to go out there and find these cameras and to render them useless i'm not encouraging anyone to do that pretty sure that's illegal i don't think i can see that but there is a active campaign people and anonymous is calling for this crack well let's let's

say the let's say a member of anonymous because keep in mind we're talking about this huge international global entity made up of anonymous persons so people who say that they are involved in the act of this collective anonymous are calling for a campaign and actually they're saying starting this saturday tomorrow actually they want people to go out there and they're calling it a splash cam saturday because a lot of these surveillance cameras you know if this technology is correct they can use it to find out exactly who you are just by picking up a glance of you you know walking by however they also have a very substantial. weakness and that's if you put any sort of lubricant or viscous liquid on the lens it's you're essentially ruining it so if you want to go out there and spray silly string at these cameras for a water balloon at them or minutes put a box over them you're shutting down one node of the system at least temporarily that is connected to this huge international global. cameras are

connected to the whole trap wire me just on my top bass of yes i don't and a lot of people are still trying to figure that out what we know based off of the e-mails that were allegedly taken from the strip for servers is that places like washington d.c. and new york police department and the new jersey transit all at least one time or another according to these e-mails had contracts with trip wire and we know that like right here in d.c. the d.c. police department their cameras are linked to hundreds if not thousands of private businesses are also linked to the department of transportation they're also linked to thousands of cameras in the public schools so all of those cameras you know this isn't a technology on the camera and this is this huge global system it's all being sent into one place that is being sent to others and so people are saying just be suspicious and if you feel like taking out a camera through this weekend why the hell not. sound scary it'll be interesting to

see how this plays out this weekend. pleasure to have in the studio that was all artsy web producer andrew blake thanks well coming up next hour it's he is the capital account with lauren lyster chat let's check in with learnt to see what is on today's agenda lauren what have gone on over there hi liz i know that it's friday it's summer friday it may feel like we're in the peak of summer but i'm going to break down for you why we are in the middle of winter at least according to our gas. winter which may explain the economic situation where and when this economy's going to hit rock bottom and when we're going to bounce back to prosper. you will not want to miss that right doesn't sound like you want to miss that and that is coming up next on the capital account with lauren list server that is going to do it for the news for more on the stories we cover check out our you tube channel you tube dot com slash r t america or check out our web site r t dot com slash usa you can also follow me on twitter at liz wall we'll be back here in a half hour see that.

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