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leap forward privatization. it's friday august seventeenth five pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching our t.v. well occupy oakland has a new target president obama protesters decided to occupy his campaign office on thursday about one hundred protesters calling for the release of u.s. army soldier private first class bradley manning invaded the campaign offices they stayed inside for three hours bringing business to a halt where they were later forced out by police are to correspond to ramon glenda joins us now live from l.a. with more hiram own so what exactly were these people protesting. that's right liz we saw several arrests happen there in oakland there were actually

several arrests in portland as well as a group of manning supporters conducted several protests up and down the west coast now in oakland where dozens of people showed up the supporters of manning there were trying to deliver a couple of demands to president obama first of all they want president obama to apologize to bradley manning we remember last year president obama during a fundraiser said that. manning one had committed a crime now in the eyes of many of his supporters this really creates an environment where bradley manning won't be able to get a fair trial given the fact that the commander in chief has already pretty much rendered him guilty in this trial saying that he has committed a crime and second of all the supporters of bradley manning also want president obama to step in and to him to guarantee that many another u.s. soldiers are not punished before they go to trial now there's been a lot of world right worldwide criticism over the treatment of bradley manning

while incarceration by the u.s. government in fact the u.n. torture chief called his treatment degrading even you know former spokesperson of this the state department p.j. crowley said that it was stupid and counterproductive what they were doing to manning so definitely still a lot of anger over the way that manning is being treated so far in these protests that we saw yesterday are a new sign that bradley manning supporters are really stepping up their pressure on the obama administration now how would you describe the protests are mounting did they remain mostly peaceful or did things turn violent. right from the demonstrations that we saw yesterday everything was peaceful there did seem to be video of scuffles that happened between the obama campaign workers there at the office in oakland and the demonstrators not completely sure what led to that but for the most part the demonstrators displayed peaceful disobedience decided to stay

locked in that obama campaign office and really taking their message directly to the president they were assured that the letter that the address of the president was going to be sent to the national campaign so the definitely hoping that their message to give bradley manning a fair trial does get to the white house and bradley manning has been behind bars for quite some time now is there any significance or amount to the timing of this protest i mean we've been covering extensively the new twist in julian assange. you know his saga now being stuck in that embassy is there any significance to the timing no definitely this coincides with the asylum requests or the granted to julian assange now a lot of the supporters are bradley manning believe that the work of weiqi leaks and even even though there is no proof so far that bradley manning was in fact the

person who leaked these documents to wiki leaks they know that the principle of free speech and the fact that all these secrets were exposed about the iraq war about the afghanistan war i mean they definitely think that there is a coordinated attack about against both leagues and again in the prosecution of bradley manning that this is an assault on free speech and really an assault on peace so ultimately what were their protesters trying to achieve. i was you mentioned earlier there's still a lot of fear because many of bradley manning supporters really really think that not only has president obama. prematurely convicted and tried bradley manning but many in the media have also tried him and convicted him as well if you look at. a lot of recent mainstream media corporate media reports there are reports that bradley manning is for sure the leaker yet he still has not gone to trial there are

some pretrial hearings still to be done later on this month and and what they want to change the conditions out there has been pressure before from the u.n. and other human rights groups over the way that he was treated at quantico yes since been moved but they still believe that the treatment that he has been receiving is completely unfair considering that he is a war veteran and of course occupy oakland was kind of a hot bath where a lot of the where we saw these images of police brutality during the occupy wall street protests this protest. in relation to bradley manning at how does that compare to some of the other protests occupy wall street protester occupy oakland protests rather that we've seen in the past in terms of police response. that's right this police response was definitely not as aggressive as the ones that we have seen before now we we have to remember that following the response of

oakland police to the occupiers there have been several bessie geisha ins several watchdog groups and even government groups have condemned the oakland police department for their response to the occupy protests so we have definitely seen a very heavy police response to previous level of new protests occupy protests in the weeks previous to last night some inspiration we deceive a much more subdued police force here even trying to negotiate with some of the demonstrators who threw out stayed peaceful and in and the police assured them that they were going to try to do their best to get their demands sent to the national campaign office of the obama administration and we should also mention their amount because during occupy oakland we we kind of highlighted scott olsen the iraq war veteran who kind of became his household name when he was seriously injured by police he was also in attendance right. that's absolutely right he was one of

several activists and military veterans who conducted the sit in there at the obama campaign office now he was allowed to leave however six others were arrested he was able to come out and speak to the media and really give their side of the story i mean they're very concerned about the wars that we are fighting abroad and they know that and they point to the importance of weak leaks which pointed out that the administration and many in the government wanted to remain in iraq even longer than we did so they feel that it's very important the work that joining the songe in weekly says and of bradley manning was is to be proven to be the leaker then what he did was heroic. not treasonous like many people have painted him to be right thanks so much for staying on top of this story that was our t. correspondent ramon going down cop a blocking story we reported

a short time ago a new hampshire man was sentenced to almost three months behind bars for secretly recording police conversations thirty year old adam mueller posted the video on a blog connected to the web site cop block dot org the claims to this site claims to hold police accountable. here is where the story started you can see a police officer slamming a teen to the ground this looks like police brutality directed at a new hampshire high school student and while gathering more information on the alleged police brutality of the recorded he mueller recorded at the police conversations and for that he was charged with three counts of wiretapping joining me now is peter air from cop block dot org pete welcome so your reaction to the conviction was disappointed to see the way it went dale made

a strong case for himself he stood on his principles he didn't act in the wrong on the day on october fourth when he followed up on the incident that happened at west high school and in fact he did something good he tried to hold a public official accountable for hurting a student but you know regardless of what the verdict was on his case he undoubtedly shared ideas about cell phone or ship and about. personal responsibility and about copland and some other good outlets with a lot of people so there was a lot of good that came from this and it will still continue to come from this do you think that justice was served in this case certainly not i think you know if anybody anybody who looks at this incidents with for more than five minutes will realize that a damn way to do the wrong and that his efforts should be held up and that derren murphy and his colleagues michael valentine the d.a. who tried them and then other colleagues of theirs who's essentially remained silent and allowed for a day more to be brought in front of to court was not

a good use of resources and it was does not lead us in the direction that we should be wanted to go if we want to live in a free prosperous society altimetry what do you think this will do do you think this will scare people away from recording police conversations and making that public as your question and honestly i don't i think you take the pulse of any average person today and most everybody acknowledges the fact that the that you have the right to record. public official who at the end of the day claims to work for you their salary is paid for by money stolen from you so you have every right to document their actions and tell us more about your website and see your hat they're advertising at cop block dot org what do you hope to achieve through this website what is the purpose of it a couple of doors as a decentralized website we have we accept submissions from a lot of people around the states around the world now that have had negative interactions with police and individuals and also positive interactions we don't hate police officers by any means it's just trying to share ideas and ideas about

cellphone or shit that individuals at the are responsible for their actions no matter where they happen to work so it's not that we want to be in a sense get away we want to create a lawless society anything but we want to we believe that the goods and services provided by police could better be done through consensual interactions so would you say that website kind of serves to police the police exactly we seek to police the police we have a sister site cop reports dot com where people can share their interactions we encourage people document their interactions police we try to support each other when we're negatively impacted and also going to my goal for the site is for it to not to exist we don't know that we live in a society where it's not needed were people are responsible for their actions or is today sometimes folks a badge get away with things wrong for you and i now mr miller here is just one example what kinds of things have you captured and posted on your web site what

kinds of instances of police brutality are on the flipside police doing you know good things have you been able to capture and make public on your web site well unfortunately this was an actual the first time adamle said trial for wiretapping in the last year he and i also had a wiretapping trial in massachusetts in which case the jury in that instance said that we were in the rights and that we hadn't wrong anybody's rights but to look to a specific example of where a complex been a. i would say it would be there are so numerous i would just say the site has grown substantially since its founding over two and a half years ago there are now chapters or offshoots in dozens of cities across the states and elsewhere and you know essentially we're encouraging people to stay out of what they know is right to document their interactions and to support each other and to not not be led by fear but you know be led by their conscience and. hopefully we get to like i said that scenario where every good or service is provided through can social interactions including the good of protection and security and how effective has the absolute been cop block arc in terms of holding

police accountable for their actions it's a good question and one i honestly can't answer with any objective metrics what we try to do is share ideas that an individual again owns themselves and we and that those ideas you know they can have a deep impact on somebody today or maybe next year but what i know from for example the most recent situation of the day mo based on the coverage that i got from r.t. and numerous other media sources there's been hundreds of thousands of people that have are now familiar with their situation and a lot of them the bulk of them come down on the side that what adamle faced and what people similarly situated face is not something that they support not something that they would voluntarily choose to pay for so if anything it only further erodes the claim legitimacy of these public officials and we have covered a lot of these instances where people have been punished basically for recording

police officers but for the most part it is legal to do so cracked yet is and it's interesting to see you know i would point out the difference between law and legislation law being natural common or god's law and legislation being man made an arbitrary and you see this with filming police officers for example how it differs based on arbitrary political boundaries you have in one instance folks that work at oak. and police department saying that we would never dream of taking somebody's recording device and we actually encourage them to film whereas other police departments proactively take people's property they still are property and a sense try to chill them from documenting their interactions taking their cameras so but again with with the traditional gatekeepers of information losing their grip on the free flow of information cop block and other alternative media sites are having a huge impact and people around the world are seeing that you know it doesn't make

sense coercion is not the way to to operate your life by and instead volunteer actions are much better it seems like we're seeing a lot more of these videos coming our police kind of cracking down on those that do record them and do try to expound is what they're doing why do you think that as they are a police officer is an interesting question i know where the law or what do you think is going on so your question i would honestly say it's a natural consequence of the perverse incentives that exist because of this institution of law enforcement today it's said that certain people have an exclusive right to provide law enforcement they have a legitimate right to negotiate force and any time you give some you allow somebody to have the right then it just sets up a bad situation where first they say we're going to steal your money to them for to protect your rights there's no way those actors employed in that is the touche and can never do anything of the sort and instead that's why we would i would advocate

that those goods and services such as protection and policing be provided consensually i often have conversations with police officers and and if they're willing to have an open mind a conversation than that to me says quite a bit and i say i say you probably work with some folks who are heavy handed or maybe even corrupt and you know they might acknowledge it and i say well wouldn't you prefer to work in a situation where that wasn't the case and undoubtably they would so how do you best get there it's not to provide this one size fits fits all top down monopoly with more money but to advocate for a better alternative very interesting really appreciate you coming on the show that was pete air from cop block aargh. millions of years ago before the human race existed an adventure began. an adventure that ultimately leads man to confront is own destiny in the notice of the exploration. that was

a clip from stanley kubrick's nineteen sixty eight film two thousand and one space odyssey these days exploration is continuing but with nasa retiring at space shuttle program last year the space race is now taking on a whole new meaning once symbolic of a country's political prowess the space race seems to be becoming a commercial race and since last year about a dozen companies have stepped up to develop space shuttles to explore the final frontier most notably space x. which launched its spacecraft to the international space station last spring so what are the pros and cons of opening up space to private companies to discuss this joining me now is dr scott pace director for space policy institute at george washington university's dr pace welcome so what are the benefits of bringing the private sector into the space race when i was thanks for inviting me on glad to be here. one of the obvious benefits of bringing the private sector in of course is

increased efficiency of the private sector is played a large role in the u.s.'s basic t.v.'s for of course many many years i mean very very few government employees actually build spacecraft and build rockets or some of the global war it's really done in the private sector so the first thing you look for its efficiency and flexibility in the question is whether they can. do the job. ok in terms of commercializing space exploration or making space travel available for regular people i mean how soon are we looking for this. this change to happen. well i think a number of people been looking for it for the last two decades and i've been disappointed that it hasn't come out come out yet. we've been delivering cargo to space for a long time privately really question i think you're touching on is when are people going to be able to go up in space tourists are going to be able to go up i think

the first step is probably going to be some orbital flights that is people going up not all the way to orbit but enough to see the curvature of the earth and get a sense of weightlessness but taking people all the way to orbit is a much more challenging activity. some people are hoping for as soon as you know maybe two thousand and seventeen you know maybe five six years from now others think it might take another ten years just it depends on how the technology goes and really how well we do on safety when you say space tourism who exactly do you think of these base taras that these space tourists wellbeing. to. you know be able to call have access to going to space or well we have space tourists already some who they don't reportedly on the order of twenty million dollars to go to the space station aboard you know russians so use vehicles in russia has been a pioneer in space tourism if you will. and then the question is is how does the

market expand as you go come down in price so instead of twenty million dollars flight for a billionaire is it maybe a ten million dollar flight up at a million dollar flight how many people would be willing to go if that was say the same as a trip to antarctica you know there was a time when only naval ships went to antarctica and then there was a time when it was done with private companies and of course now tourists can go to antarctica so depends on the price point right now at the beginning it's going to be extremely wealthy individuals who are doing a very unique adventure in the future it may be more common but it's still going to be an extremely extreme high. sort of travel like say the way maybe you could see an article in other exotic locations being today right so we're not talking about face exploration being accessible to just anybody. disneyland has nothing to fear

from people visiting there but it is something that can become more accessible it's fine the question is whether or not the safety and price points are going to be demonstrated and really how soon just how big of a market do you thing commercial space exploration is i mean how much of a demand is there for people to to dish out the dough and to go into outer space well again i think it depends on the price in its seems like i think going all the way to orbit are going to still continue to be i think very very expensive and i think that market would be very small and we've limited essentially to two very high wealthy individuals i think space tourism suborbital flights i think there's maybe a more steady market in that again you can see markets for people taking flight some type of storm and stuff fighter aircraft there are flights in russia for example and big twenty ninth's that are that are done for several tens of thousands of dollars if you can imagine maybe one hundred thousand dollars for

a study of so overall mission that might be on the order of thousands of individuals certainly numbers like that it would see in weightless flights we there are aircraft where ship give people a sense of martian gravity you know gravity would have zero gravity commercial aircraft and there are thousands of individuals who have done that so the interest is there the question is again whether the safety and the prices are going to be there now beyond space tourism what other incentives are there for companies to explore space i mean what is out there for humans what is the space frontier hoping to try to find. well one of the ways and this may be a kind of an academic answer but one of the things we tell students is that we have big questions like is there a human future in space i mean some people think the answer is yes other people think no and of course both answers are interesting if we don't have a future beyond the planet that's a big deal if we do have a future that's

a big deal and it depends on whether or not we can live off the land can we use local resources or do we always have to come home or at his or anything useful to do if there's anything commercial to pay our way if both answers are yes then you get space settlements you get space to something like coming to the new world if the answer is no the navy space is some form of mount everest that maybe tourists or adventurers go to that people don't really live there maybe spaces like antarctica where we have scientists go there an outpost maybe we have tourists visit but nobody really has a large community there or maybe it's like an oil platform where people work but they really don't live there there's many many different possible futures in space we just don't know which one is right i guess the possibility is our atlas so we are seeing more private interest and exploring spending more and more companies like space x. our virgin galactic i mean what kinds of technological innovations are we seeing

from private companies like these. well i think one of the things that that they bring in certainly is there is some efficiencies and innovations the difficulty is that rocket technology is not the same as information or computer technology i think we're very used to how information technology is change really rapidly certainly the computer you have today is very different than the one you may have had ten years ago but rocket engines haven't changed that much machinery that operates at high performance is still very expensive and very difficult to to use and so the interesting question is whether or not companies like virgin galactic and space x. . really bring down the prices from what we've been used to in the past certainly if we keep doing things the same old way will get the same old thing so it's good that there's innovators out there but demonstrating that they really going to make the price break through and do so safely and safely and reliably is still something that hasn't been demonstrated but i think that's again why the experiment is

worthwhile they think there's an opportunity and it is probably in everyone's interest to hope they succeed so will you we are seeing this shift of space exploration from the public to the private sector you know used to be that different countries were where kind of competing in terms of you know their accomplishments and getting into outer space whether it be the moon or beyond alternately the shift from the public to the private sector i mean do you see this as a good thing what does it mean ultimately for space exploration well it means there's more and more diverse markets i mean it used to be that communications satellites were something only governments could afford and then of course private companies built communications satellites first g.p.s. satellites were course for military purposes and now everybody has g.p.s. in their car so what's happened is something that starts off being something that only governments can support then become something that industry is able to use and

then finally in many cases it's something that individuals and consumers can have access to but not everything works like that and information technology is going down one path whether or not space tourism is going to be that like the aircraft industry is something we're on the edge of that we haven't yet crossed over into a really interesting stuff sounds like something out of a science fiction movie about can become a reality of that was dr scott pace director for a space policy institute at george washington university. thank you a second with our space same the mars curiosity rover drew worldwide headlines last week when it reached the red planet but after a few days has curiosity piqued about our trip to mars we sent our teams laurie harkness to the streets of new york to find out.

human technology is on mars so what this week let's talk about that are people really into it some people are real some americans maybe. they don't think it has an impact for humanity altogether not at all now so what does matter it's just something cool it gets the american people hyped up about the rest of the out don't they matter. and i hope we'll find some other kind of fly fish there and i think it can help to understand that we are not alone in the universe do you think that we will shift our perception of how to be if we learn man i hope so i hope so maybe you will become a bit more. i hope so it's fair to say that because i'm french and we're not a boy at all but i think we need to understand that we're not alone yes i don't think as many people are into it that should be i posted something on my face we're going to have a head of one comment or one like at all and that was a couple days ago so that's kind of a little bit of a little bit of

a disappointment why is that you would think reaching another planet feller i feel like maybe the olympics shattered it you know and kind of eclipse the moment but i tend to think there's more pressing issues here on earth and i'd rather see the money invested in. environment and. global food issues and that kind of thing but could we possibly find other solutions if we look outward. possibly i think it's great too i feel like we've lost that spirit of exploration largely it's underfunded a lot of people have it but we don't we don't commit enough to education either at school in our government or in our living room or in our solar system. maybe they'll find some oh worm holes or something of carbon you know carbon based or some of that but no martians.