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the gold and silver investors guard free call today eight hundred two five seven go. today r t they are the fuel and the proud but one former marine isn't exactly pleased with his government and he took his complaints to facebook and was detained for doing it we'll speak to the marines attorney. these days passengers are expected to have some thick skin when it comes to airport security screening coming up we'll tell you why a man's t. shirt got him kicked off a flight. it's thursday august twenty third five pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching our t.v. we begin this hour with a former marine who was detained at a psychiatric ward for his facebook post today
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a judge ordered the release of twenty six year old brandon routh he was sent away for posting anti government messages on his facebook page the police and f.b.i. raided his virginia home in mid august and interrogated him about his online activity he was later transported to a psych ward against his will but the judge today said there is no basis to hold him at that psych ward so why was he ever detained in the first place to discuss i'm joined now by john whitehead an attorney for the marine hi john so i just want to get your reaction first to the judge ordering his release. well very happy the r.c. a bit surprised though the system is very difficult to navigate civil commitments what happened here last week last thursday we saw some police drive of his driveway in front of his house he was out on the front porch he only had a shorts on and started talking what's up guys i said you post
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a subconscious version of things on your facebook page while he was trying to explain itself they surround her name and then went ahead and handcuffed him and let him get away with him in police car i said what's the crime is that you really committed a crime or not charging with a crime and they're not going to charge him with a crime it was this facebook post they took him to a psychiatric ward and the other fifteen minutes psychological examination had a hearing monday and the special justice who's a lawyer rule that he knew the thirty or thirty days of to be in the hospital for evaluation and so we appeal that a judge today a circuit judge ruled that there was really no factual basis you set for the keeping the psychiatric or what happened was he was playing a game on facebook essentially private grouping his brother and his sister and they were quoting song lyrics from a root cultural members i never listen to the group i read the lyrics summer. because that are violent lyrics but you know the beatles had a role in. mind but anyway so that was the basis because free speech.
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and by the way they couldn't get a search warrant because they didn't commit a crime and so the search is on they will they will realize he owns the weapons ok can you john describe more the nature of his faith but post that started that controversy i read his posts were interpreted as terrorists or is there anything that you saw that you posted that fits that description. well one of the one of the callers was up here ready to start my act but you gotta understand he was talking to his brother and sister in a game called mr illuminati it was a game ever play and somehow the government got downloaded that and again as authorized to go to rather dot org i arrived articles on surveillance the private corporations are giving over all times are making to the police so anything you do on facebook is got to go to the police so we know that they conducted surveillance and that's what happened but he targeted no one needs
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a decorated marine then to iraq afghanistan and he's a combat engineer so he owns two businesses in richmond virginia he's a upstanding man as community a decorated marine he owns no weapons so he hardly didn't know what he's uncertain about the government he's a ron paul libertarian did he have any violent history none he's never seen a psychotic or he's never been on drugs the only time he's ever seen a psychotic is when they put him in the snow and to show last thursday. so then why was he the tane in the first place i mean what basis was there to justify him being sent to a psychiatric ward all we know this is facebook post they said some people complained about five people is what they listed at the hearing monday and people basically he didn't know except for one person so what this means is if it happened to anybody i mean there are twenty thousand civil commitments and virginia alone each year so what happened here and it was really key and really important as mother went on
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facebook and started talking about this case in my son's been taken away as someone contacted us and we provided little events most people never get that so they disappeared and he's just a douche and that was just the norm i mean does this happen often that a former marine will be sent to a psychiatric ward for saying things like this or is this unprecedented i said though there are about twenty thousand of these civil commitment to are genuine loan each year but what happened the the other night the veterans groups contacted me across the country and said they're routinely they're getting complaints of veterans who have come back from afghanistan or iraq the f.b.i. and has been investigating them because of the political views you know if you remember a couple years ago the department less curity issued two memos a left wing and right wing extremism in the right wing extremism best rooms were listed as threats to america so there seems to be this idea that that friends are some kind of threat that it's a little unnerving if you're in the veterans groups are very very upset seems
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a little bit ironic that that's what specifically be considered a threat considering they had once thought are some of them had once fought to defend the country. you know here's the point haley constitutional cases for forty years i've said this is the first one of us me the greeks but they did not charge the man with a crime they just picked him up arrested him into a humanoid no crime i know that you had said before that this is in an attack on his first amendment rights do you think do marines are former marines have some kind of special obligation to censor what they say or what they post on line i don't think anybody in america has has a duty to do that i think if you're concerned about your government and he should speak out you know the right thing is the people like to stick it out as most americans don't do that they're too busy watching sporting events or whatever they're doing this guy here is concerned this country needs the thing out and i got him in trouble but you know i asked the question is this america do we still have
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first amendment rights yes a judge today said we do ok john what is next for your client there we're talking to brandon and his mother right now about possible civil lawsuit against the government for damages they put him through they put this man through hell right thank you so much for coming on the show and telling us all about this really interesting case that was attorney john whitehead thank you. all this week we've been reporting on the number of u.s. service members killed in the war in afghanistan and that number has topped two thousand and this fact has virtually been ignored by the mainstream media but they're not the one the only ones remaining silent about the war four years ago senator barack obama and senator john mccain both laid out plans for ramping up and then winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan fast forward to two thousand and twelve and now president obama and mitt romney are locked in a close battle and the war in afghanistan doesn't seem to be on their radar today
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at the white house briefing r.t. white house correspondent christine was called on here's her question about the war in afghanistan. the president understandably even talked a lot about education policy we haven't heard much of down the line in the next four years for the war in afghanistan and so i guess i want to ask two part question first of all what is the plan for the next four years and second of all there's some chatter that the reason it hasn't been discussed is because governor romney has an essentially free. so i can't speak for governor romney i mean i think that he has been critical of what the president has made very explicit is his strategy and his policy in afghanistan which is having. having kept his promise to end the war in iraq and bring our troops home. he has refocused he refocused attention on the effort in afghanistan which after all.
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we entered u.s. troops entered because of the attacks on the united states on september eleventh two thousand and one he refocused attention he plussed up our forces there he developed a strategy that made clear that our number one priority the reason why we are in afghanistan is because of al qaida and that our number one objective. for our mission in afghanistan is to disrupt dismantle and ultimately defeat al qaeda those white house spokesman jay carney answering the question providing information about the objectives and afghanistan but very few details about the actual plan for the u.s. moving forward also ahead on our t.v. show even if you pass airport security with flying colors you could still get kicked off a plane for looking suspicious ahead of one man's story about how his anti usa t. shirts t.s.a. that is got him booted from a flight. what drives the world the fear mongering used by
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politicians who makes decisions to break through it's already been made who can you trust no one who is imbued with the global machinery where we had a state controlled capitalism is called session when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question morning. is the state run english speaking russian channel it's kind of like. russia today has an extremely confrontational stance when it comes to us.
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we just put a picture of me when i was like years old true. friends that. he was yesterday. and very the. place. of american power continues. i think. might actually be time revolution. and it turns out that
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a popular drink of starbucks has a surprising in radio. welcome to the capital account i'm lauren mr. pepper spray let's just bring gerard is right right i mean it's like a derivative of actual pepper it's a food product essentially. much stronger than anything you'd be by a lot of. dolls of torrens was stronger than any part of the w.
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they were put you know. would it from a flight for wearing a silly t. shirt and that's exactly what a thirty one year old doctorate student says happened to him at the airport in buffalo new york or it goo haas as it was his shirt that caused an airline supervisor to pull him from a flight forcing him to rent a car and find his own way back home this is the shirt that he says it all as you can see it has a mock department of homeland security seal around it are words. zero zero zero m. g. terrorist an alert level blood red run run take your shoes off or take off your shoes in our region did pass t.s.a. security it was the pilot and airline personnel that decided he couldn't fly
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despite passing extensive security and as a blogger region details the whole ordeal from being banned from flying to the searching of his belongings to the interrogations that followed but he believes this is about more than just his t. shirt to discuss his art to correspond or among the lindo joins us now from ally hiram own so is this yet another example of freedoms being compromised in the name of security or is this a necessary precaution. that's definitely the buzz around the internet today now the stories of lee getting a lot of attention here in the u.s. and across the world from people who see this increased security at airports and border crossings as just really part of an over expenditure on national security and really an eroding of our civil liberties and as you mentioned a lot of people think that this is really part of you know part of the national security apparatus taking away our freedoms now as you mentioned it wasn't even
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t.s.a. who stopped our r g two was actually delta airlines our sheets had already been through an extensive t.s.a. search and he got to the gate and delta told them that some of the passengers in the pilot didn't feel comfortable with his shirt and we saw from his shirt i mean he's obviously making a joke of just what he sees as too much national security expenditures and really this fear mongering that goes on on a daily basis when it comes to terrorism but obviously delta didn't find the joke in it the pilot himself told the crew that he didn't want. on the plane and they ended up having to take a plane the next day so and this is after several several searches and he even changed his shirt so despite the fact that he went away went ahead and change his wardrobe went through several searches it's it's quite surprising this they still
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didn't let him on simply because the pilot said oh i don't want that guy on there so i mean he did go through that extensive he went through t.s.a. and he wasn't found to be a dangerous how there wasn't really any plausible or was there any plausible reason to fear him being on that plane. that's right. besides you know how ridiculous he thinks that this is the fact that you know delta thought that his shirt was inappropriate and was scaring passengers and he also believes that this is really part of a bigger problem of him driving or flying while brownie believes that this is another case of racial profiling and he points out the case of last year when a couple of muslim scholars were taken off of a delta flight because the pilot said that they that he did not feel comfortable with them on the flight and we are getting new reports from homeland security that there have been several reports
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a racial profiling happening in ports in newark boston and even in hawaii so definitely he's point towards a bigger problem but many people bring up the fact that when it comes down to it these. even though he was dealt in this case which stopped him in many cases it's t.s.a. who is really becoming too intrusive into people's personal belongings and to their personal business and i'm kind of going along with that want to read the tweet they hear obviously very frustrated after the whole ordeal not being able to fly home and then the whole process this is what the man tweeted quote mock the security charade or offend racists by being brown and delta won't let you fly in this prince of the whole issue that you were just touching upon a racial profiling and we've kind of covered a extensively of how you know over a new york the n.y.p.d. blatantly racial profiles muslims as part of their counter terrorism program ramon
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to what extent are muslims or other minorities profiled within our airports. well that's right we have to remember that i mean to say the sort of just extensive security that we've been seeing at airports and snow eleven has been hotly debated you know in the media and even congress last you know congress has really been very critical about how our money is being spent during this debate we must remember that many more conservative tough on crime pundits and lawmakers really pointed towards the israeli model where security personnel there practiced behavioral profiling and really homeland security is under a lot of scrutiny right now because this practice was going on at boston's airport where they were supposedly profiling behavior turned out that in many cases they were just really point out minority passengers who they figured would be easy targets may have some sort of criminal history so that's why right now many of
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these t.s.a. screeners are going through new training because to many people this behavioral profiling is really just another excuse to racially profile and not really stop terrorism and want to bring up this poll according to a recent gallup poll the t.s.a. has not such a decimal approval rating here in the u.s. it's at fifty four per sat right now but that higher than president obama's fifty three percent rating and congress is sixteen percent approval rating pretty bad there by someone that so people seem to at least a good amount of people don't mind the t.s.a. to a certain extent but when people hate the t.s.a. they really hate that i mean who could forget this example ramon.
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this was just john. kerry she. actually your felt touched my back there you know you're good so we do a little bit slow we can do that here but if you touch my junk if you're arrested i tell you the last time i flew to afghanistan i got manually raped by a guy who it was the owner was sure but making sure is one thing this guy it seemed to me were doing well and done it all right a couple of extreme examples there people are very you know upset with their t.s.a. experience at what point do the american people say enough is enough this has gone too far. well that's right i mean just agreed just examples of small children and even the elderly just being searched so closely and it really does go to the point was you know what is the legal right to search and in you know search your bags and
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this is really it is really interesting that people have a favorable. you know view of the t.s.a. given the fact that they are becoming much much more intrusive and it's really going to be really interesting what the tipping point is when because we've already seen protests people showing up naked to protest the t.s.a. so it's really going to be interesting where the tipping point is where people are finally going to start fighting back against this intrusion of privacy right ron thanks so much for coming on the show and weighing and that was our t. correspondent ramon glenda. well thousands of students taking to the streets in quebec canada protesting to wish and hikes demonstrators say it's aber newell of the protests we saw last spring where a whole thing got quite chaotic in the area with police pepper spraying the crowd and students flooding the streets the demonstrations are ahead of quebec the general election to be held on september fourth voters will decide
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a premier jean charest liberal party is to be reelected he has run on a plan to increase tuition fees over eighty two percent over the next seven years organizers of wednesday's protest said it was the largest planned demonstration seen during intellect and electoral campaign and as a sign that the protest movement is making a comeback there joining me now to discuss it jeremy but darren in an interim co spokesperson for class welcome there jeremy so tell us more about how these protests have played out well this is there are six large protests on the twenty second of every month starting on march twenty second which was a protest regrouping more than two hundred thousand people and the last one yesterday regrouped about one hundred thousand these are very very large scale protests something canadian history has never seen and of course throughout the spring we
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saw my three demonstrations we saw just a real marches in protest of both the tuition hikes and the government's repressive bill twelve's. there was a lot during the summer but we still managed to stay strong drink two protests in june and in july and now during this election campaign voters are clearly do you want their voices to be forces to be heard and to do so loudly in the streets the recent protests the one the one last night was a mostly peaceful. absolutely it was very peaceful no arrests have been reported the repression has been reported either in stark contrast with going to the protests in the spring. and speaking of those protests you know we saw those massive protests in canada back in the spring and then they kind of died down why the sudden resurgence absolutely of course social movements always find it hard
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to continue to stay strong during the summer and the fact that the semester was suspended bill twelve made it hard for students to keep mobilizing but clearly since the beginning of august we've seen a resurgence in mobilization of the provincial election of september fourth and we see that students could really have a lack of confidence in the electoral process of the parties who could take power do not have. promises that answer the demands of students and the best way to make their voices heard throughout this election campaign has been and will always be mobilizing and going into the streets can you talk more about what exactly the message is that these students are trying to send we were trying to send a very clear message to the political parties if they do not put an end to this
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recent hike if you not access to the students the amounts they will have to make do they will have to cope with a very strong social movements with a continued student strike and that is something that they should be worried about . and could you talk also about the significance this is happening now right before an election the significance of the timing. well students once their voices heard during the election campaign it's very interesting to see that's the political parties have not addressed their demands throughout the election campaign health education has not been discussed in the leaders debates. and their leaders convenient for them not to discuss those as they have a very superficial analysis of the problems plaguing our area and university system including the commodification of education we have tried to put forward ideas rather strike and these ideas are not being addressed so it's no wonder students
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continue to mobilize ahead of the election now how would you say that the political leaders there are trying to avoid making this an election issue absolutely yes it's quite sad to see that's the debates our generation has sparked for months is not being addressed at all and we continue to debates numbers and superficial issues superficial promises instead of addressing the direction which our provinces sticky and why do you think that is why do you think they are ignoring official because they don't have much to answer to those issues the programs of the parties are extremely superficial and one could say that they are share one common denominator which is a new liberal a new liberal outlook of society which is something students and citizens in general have been rejecting by going up to these protests by voting on strikes throughout the spring throughout the summer and so the lack of. lack of real
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debate on real issues is of course there's a pointing to students we would like those issues to be addressed and this is why we continue mobilizing because what we've noticed is the only way to put these issues on the map on the political map is to go in the speech make a big splash and alternately what is the goal what do you hope to achieve argument has been the same since the very beginning of this campaign we want an end to the plan to ration hike and at the same time the discourse has broadened over the course of the strike to other issues other social issues there's been cuts and public services we want strong accessible public services this is something that the political leaders sort of rest and we also wants the future government to repeal the repressive bill twelve which demonstrations being made illegal that students breaks being made illegal and how confident are you jeremy that you and
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your fellow protesters well be able to bring about change. i'm very confident the numbers we have achieved yesterday are startling it is a historic mobilization the strongest political mobilization during an election campaign in quebec history with these kind of them agree with this kind of support from population because this is not only a student struggle it has now become a popular struggle i'm confident that through increased leverage the government will really be able to achieve this goal and if after the election the political parties don't answer it you know the man they will have it will be met by popular resistance they will be met by the speech that will be met by further strikes and i'm confident that we'll achieve this goal it's been a very long struggle but i i think we're nearing a victory so we're saying you're near you think you're nearing a victory would you say at this point i mean it sounds like there's a lot of people
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a huge turnout that you have already captured the attention of political leaders well we certainly hope that they have. listened and what we know that there are several political parties have been trying to answer the student's demands in hopes of course to capture their electorates and this is something that could not have been achieved without this race without strong mobilization twelve the spring throughout the summer and hopefully on september fourth. the newly elected governments will be able to meet those demands and if not will be there through money into people's demands and we won't ask nicely certainly ok well we will keep a close eye on how it all plays out jeremy thanks for keeping us updated that was jeremy of the dark vienna and the room color spokesperson for class that's going to do it for this hour bus or more of the stories we cover check out our you tube channel you tube dot com slash our team america our web site.

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