technology innovation all the developments around russia we've got this huge earth covered. today on our table locked and loaded with rhetoric u.s. arms sales tripled in two thousand and eleven as well as congress's contempt for both china and the u. brawn are these fears justified or are we just jumping the gun. and president bush promised that no child will be left behind when it comes to education but president obama is creating thousands of orphans with his hard line stance on deportation i had a look at the effects this crackdown is having on the children of illegal immigrants. a storm named isaac might be able to delay the g.o.p. but it certainly can't stop the paul lights ron paul supporters are battling the elements and the r. and c. for their shot in the spotlight or tell you about this shadow convention and ron

paul's song. it's monday august twenty seventh five pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching our team. we begin this monday by taking a look at the top global players in arms sales when it comes to selling weapons the united states takes a strong lead recent reports reveal that arms sales by the u.s. tripled in two thousand and eleven to a record high of over sixty six billion dollars and no other country comes close as you can see the u.s. accounts for seventy nine percent of weapons sales to russia comes in at a distant seconds at six percent china out lags even further out three percent that was america selling two turns out the top customers are in the persian gulf saudi arabia is the top recipient over thirty three thousand arms agreements with the u.s. last year india comes in second united arab emirates third in israel comes in fourth

so what are the implications of all this talk about this and more i was joined by retired lieutenant colonel anthony shaffer from the center for advanced defense studies we first discussed how the dramatic jump and u.s. sales happens. well obviously we're in the first world and i hate to say that we have a huge military industrial complex which requires all sorts of character beating but that's part of the deal frankly as we start to look at managed military operations in iraq and afghanistan the brutal truth is this we have an industry which is looking for new markets there's a hint and i think that's one of the things that you're seeing now is that these individuals these groups large corporations which really are trying to grow bottoms seven percent per year is looking for new markets and i think they're finding new markets and a lot of the areas you just mentioned saying this is all about business. and let's

be doubly honest here a lot of europe called or russia to also begin expanding its own arms market back into the lot so this is not just the united states this is a large large global market that the. frankly the russians and chinese both look at as well so i think it's a very right area competition but they have a mother very far behind at this point the u.s. now. kind of owning it with seventy five over seventy five percent when it comes to the sale of lap and so they have a long way to go before they can come even close to touching the last oh absolutely i mean we're talking about the u.s. ten times larger and it's exporting of weapons right now and the russians with that said no one believes for a minute that expanding these markets is going to help make things more peaceful obviously the more the greater influx of these weapons into any country especially

some of those in the middle east which are greatly unstable i think we'll both go very far to continue to see further just the stabilization of the middle east as we go and want to talk about who exactly were selling these weapons carol the top recipient was that saudi arabia and what is the significance of that. with saudi arabia being a u.s. ally in the persian gulf the theory has been is if we maintain good relations with all of these countries specially saudi arabia as we saw during the gulf war ninety one the idea is they will maintain stability of their own oil fields all exports the whole region the persian gulf is one of the largest producers of. of information relating to everything that's going on worldwide so you know right now everything that we're doing as to do with all the issues relating to what we need to do or the world on energy and. also beyond that the united

arab emirates i mean beyond excuse me beyond saudi arabia we have the united arab emirates and elm and there are also a top part at the park as there is also in this region what is the significance of this and terms of iran these countries being in close proximity to iran i think that's one of the key issues as you look at the geopolitical chess match going on right now the iranians are really being isolated more and more i don't believe that i believe most of the actual sanctions have not worked whatsoever and in many ways as we noticed over the weekend where the nonaligned nations actually actually meeting there into her run i think it's only added to the whole as i mentioned before a situation where i think more and more we add fuel the more potential we have to start a fire that all these weapons being would produce and sixty six billion dollars that's how much that's how much was raked in by selling weapons at any look kind of

weapons are we talking exactly we're talking about everything from f. sixteen fighters down to basic fire or we're talking about him sitting for whatever the current flavors the full spectrum of and the theory is obviously by arming and helping our allies these allies than would be able to do especially if all across the border during the cold war we had enough you know basically two areas soviets and the united states were buying lined up behind them a few nonaligned nations or if we're out outliers now it's not quite so black and white and i think obviously the more that we can arm these folks least that's the theory the the the good the thinking is what was our pentagon is the. folks would be available to actually support us and maintaining the lines of communication lines of commerce relating to the persian gulf so we're saying this strategy and a way to i use telling iran and a way i mean is this kind of year i got to go to war with the country well that war

is inevitable i believe that the current right of high level of. the language being used with their israelis with they are right. let's remember that a lot of war so started over people having the idea that they can gain ground by being using military force i think it right now unless something dramatic changes in a civil war within the next eighteen months if not sooner so i think that's why you see this large export of our weapons to ally what we believe to be oh i countries such as you a such as saudi arabia but with theoretically being there and willing to use their weapons that we sold them in supporting military operations to secure or ever the objectives are of that point and so now we are seeing we're seeing these sanctions these ramped up sanctions against iran and now we are seeing weapons being sold to neighboring allies if any how can we expect iran to react

to all of that well badly i think that what you're seeing right now is that the government of iran feels put off they do feel that they are being isolated i think they've been very. crafty in getting around sanctions right of the russians so supporting the iranians in a number of aspects to your program. giving exporting weapons to the iranians so in many ways you're see at this and least unless this power comes from the iranians in the west the russians are still kind of siding with the iranians so i think what we can see over the next six months is a continuation of a lot of rhetoric from both sides but the moment something bad happens. one tanker if a scratch on it you could see a long conflict within hours and that conflict would see a lot of people lost very quickly and frankly it could want it to a larger conflict with the middle east certainly all sounds scary i think the last thing most american people want right now is another war you mentioned before that

this is all about business but what is the foreign policy goal all the united states and all of that good question right now there is no global strategy or united states which is then something generals as far and wide i've talked to are concerned about the array of the stated policy of isolating the iranians is the primary focus on but beyond that we really don't have a we don't know what we're going to do with the iranian reportedly price to resurrect itself and the current government we don't know what's going to happen in syria so without a clear cohesive strategy other than trying to isolate the iranians this point and supporting their right the israelis there's really no clear path meanwhile as you describe this as a business who is profiting. well any company you can think of within. our production assistant following walkie martens general dynamics

a lot of arms manufacturers this is again big business and something that they have been producing a lot of weapon systems for the u.s. military over the past ten years that market is diminishing risk even more diminishing seaquest ration or whatever comes out of that over the next year so they're living room on the market so they will continue to do what they can climbs in markets right affan a very interesting thank you so much for coming on the show appreciate it that was retired lieutenant colonel anthony shaffer from the center for advantage defense studies thank you. well they are america's children left behind as immigration remains a divisive issue in the u.s. the number of deportation case has had a record high and as a result parents that are deported are forced to leave their children behind many of these kids grew up in the united states many of them born here they're u.s. citizens according to the immigration and customs enforcement forty five thousand such parents were removed from the u.s. and the first half of this year meanwhile the president has vowed to only the poor

criminals and not separate families but in many cases that is exactly what's happening to discuss i'm joined now by ron go chaz community organizer welcome ron so what happens to children many of them born here when their parents are deported you know the effects or it's been devastating i'm a teacher in south los angeles or with this happens on a daily bases where you know these kids have are constantly in fear that their parents are going to be deported and there are those who have you know this is they come to their parents already boarded you know they can learn in my classroom they constantly have to think about how they're going to survive those are left here they had to think about everything is going to happen you know their parents are deported to country that they have been twenty years so this is absolutely devastating it separates families it's something that's really tragic at a time in this country where you know we've been promised immigration reform we've been promised so many things but we see that the great majority of people who are being deported have no criminal record at all besides of these being in this

country so it's something that has to stop and it's a crisis there were five million children in this country where at least one parent was undocumented so this is about the millions of families every single day and we are talking about children that are american citizens right now or at least in a lot of these cases. there was almost five million children or u.s. citizens in this country where at least one parent was undocumented so you know this is banks you know the united states and every level and every part of society that's why it's not something they dissipate it's one community but the entire country we have to see these kids when they grow up with their with a parent who's going to have a huge impact on who are going to be the teachers the cops the doctors lawyers of tomorrow so this is a big issue that affects every one of the nuns and the obama administration set our record on deportations back in two thousand and eleven with nearly four hundred thousand undocumented undocumented immigrants removed by immigration and customs

enforcement this is the same president that has a valid to only remove criminals so i mean you are saying that this is not the case that was centrally do you think that he has failed to fulfill this promise. absolutely you know it's been extremely disappointing it's been a complete. letdown not only did he break the record in two thousand and eleven or in the most deportations new year he broke the record three years in a row and as you know he wrote us he's deported more people in one term than bush did in two terms so this is absolutely devastating to the undocumented community so you know when they say that they're focusing on criminals the numbers speak for themselves and even the numbers that you know ice the department homeland security has released shows that more than seventy percent of all of the people who have been deported had no criminal record had no any ties anything the only crime that they had was coming to this country looking for a better life and working to give their families

a better life and meanwhile this comes while immigration remains a very hot button issue here in the u.s. republicans continue to advocate this hard line no mercy approach to immigration advocating these programs like ending in-state tuition for some immigrants public universities even here of some of them calling for an actual physical fence to support around the border of mexico. also requiring u.s. businesses to use this. verify system to make sure that nobody is illegal that's working for companies here in the u.s. how do you feel about some of these massive measures they are proposing. yeah you know that's because of the political climate this country kind of the bases it's such a zenith phobic climate that you have a situation we have the republican guard and democratic party almost outranked to outdo each other to see who can be the most anti immigrant because they see immigration as an issue that can be used to to gather support for their base in

these upcoming elections in november you know the democrats promises immigration reform while the republicans take these hard stances on you know hard line stance on immigration but when we see in practice is that everything that the republicans are saying is being you know carried out by the democratic party administration at the numbers that you mentioned before a record number of deportations of policies like secure communities or in secure communities as we call it these are policies not being implemented by the republican party and their rhetoric these are being fully implemented and you know in unprecedented ways by democratic party in the strangeness of our community you know we're in a situation where we can rely on either party to to to you know solve this problem for years because we feel that both parties are attacking us one by mouth in the other one and two actions they are saying that it doesn't matter what the political spectrum is that this is this is a problem. whether you're republican or adept a democrat whoever it is in power nobody is really doing anything to address this

problem or help these people help these children that are american citizens. not at all i think that what's happening is that we see it will break them was happening in arizona with sheriff arpaio and then governor jan brewer and then the democrats use them as almost. a kind of to you know take some attention away from the fact that the ones who are really deporting all these people is ice who is under the control right now the democratic party. brewer is not deporting these people and we have been calling the shots that's why yes it really doesn't matter which party is in power or undocumented people they feel completely under attack by both parties the democratic party does well with the nicer tone of voice but regardless it's still separating a family and you know what critics say and you hear this argument time and time again they point their finger at the parents for coming to the country illegally in the first place putting their family in this position what do you

think about that. looks like we lost him there i think we're just going to move on now that was ron go chad a community organizer community organizer discussing the problem of children being left behind when their parents are deported. to the republican national convention which was scheduled to kick off in full force today and tampa florida instead the chairman of the republican party pounded down the gavel to begin the r. and c. and then quickly recess until tomorrow afternoon due to the threat of tropical storm isaac but bad weather did not keep thousands of loyal ron paul supporters away from tampa where two events were taking place there at a festival and the ron paul rally he sponsored and self it was made possible with the leftover cash he had from his presidential run our two correspondent christine . gives us

a look at both of them. the typical political gathering it is not. close. just a few miles from where the two thousand and twelve republican national convention is about to kick off there are no coats and ties to speak of i am wearing a skirt with the constitution that i had made this is a bronco shirt and on the back of it it's it's the constitution to complete constitution this is ron paul he's the political honey badger the freedom loving political honey badger is often treated more like a rock star. the seventy seven year old doctor and congressman from texas has now run for president three times each time getting more popularity this election is very important but let me tell you there's

something even more important than all of them and that is the cause that we're leading in the cause of liberty the initiation that we're getting right now. that attention coming once in a while from the mainstream media that has largely ignored him but more so for more and more followers who have made his cause their own liberty freedom less government smaller government more rights to do what we want to do rights the keeper money that we worked hard for and earn these loyal disciples come from around the country and around the world it was all put forward by the bucket the vaulting but to be it's no you. close enough you know you have to see the venues he's like it was his fault take on the other side of the city at the florida state fairgrounds the paul festival has been going on for three days now as you can see at a little less well attended than ron paul's own rally but here we have yet another part of the ron paul machine and yet another venue for those people refuse. going

to give up on their candidate well back in may at the primaries in ohio i voted ron paul you know i tried my darkest pretty was here to stick it to the r n c and show him that you know. paul would have won if it was a fair election. was. back at the rally a call to action i have been taught and i have been convinced that patriotism is that cold that permits us in a free society to criticize our own government when they're rude. and a promise that this revolution is just getting started was in tampa florida christine for sound on t.v. to discuss this and more i was joined by our t.v. producer many iraq allow and i asked them if this convention was the end of a chapter to the ron paul revolution here's

a steak. you know i think that remains to be see. definitely ron paul had a very big impact in the following i think this years while he was running this year was was was huge compared to previous ones that he's that he's run for for president but is this is last straw i think it's far from it i think that the movement that he's established transcends that and that we're i think we definitely have a lot to see from the libertarian movement whether or not it's from ron paul certainly from from the movement that he started an interesting thing paul told the crowd at this event that he declined a spot at the republican national convention he said thanks but no thanks he had said. how this convention kind of like a convention of his own and paul of course has proven to be a stark contrast with mitt romney really separating himself from the republican establishment so i mean what is the significance of that what do you think this says i think all this says is that ron paul stays true to himself and sees true and consistent with the things that he preaches about and with or not you want to call

it preaching but ron paul is the one candidate i think you could say that really distinguish himself from the other candidates this time around and for him to have a whole other convention is just you know a sign of his consistency in that arena saying there are things that i don't agree with with my own party with the republican party and i have i have a set of principles that i abide by and that the people that support me by and by and i want to make sure that that platform that there is a is a platform for me to convey those principles and that's exactly what he was doing with his with his separate convention that he was holding and i remember back during the republican and those debates there are a lot of those debates said that one of the moderators had asked each of the candidates to describe use one word to describe themselves ron paul use the word consistent and i think he does stay true to that to that attribute want to talk about a couple of specific things he focused on at this. that out of his proposal to audit

the fed you know he always had that monitor and the fad he's gaining leverage in terms of auditing the fad now there is this proposal to audit the pentagon. about this i think this is great that you bring this up because ron paul there's one thing that he's definitely known for and if you were following the occupy protests that's that's that's one thing that a lot of people within the movement were always calling for audit the fed audit the fed and this is something that ron paul has been standing behind for a very long time. unfortunately he doesn't have that kind of support from the rest of congress but with new legislation that we're likely to be seeing regarding auditing the fed we might actually see some headway being made in that regard now not only audit the fed you also bring up the audit the pentagon now even though ron paul is not going to be speaking at the r. and c. his son rand paul will be speaking and that initiatives that he's taking to bring up the subject of audit the pentagon is kind of central to the speech that he's

going to be giving at the r. and c. so it's going to be interesting to see what rand paul has to say and whether or not it's going to be a perpetuation of rand paul's movement through his son rand even though it kind of hasn't appeared that way but it'll be interesting to see whether or not that's actually the case and you know ron paul he really pushed this issue of auditing to the fad others saying small government his anti war and you know not interventionist message and with this kind of being the culmination of ron paul's campaign and many how do you think that all of these issues that he has really pushed and brought to the forefront how they will continue to be punished and how they will continue to play a role within the republican establishment i think that it's very difficult to answer that question because we live in a country that is dominated by a two party system republicans and democrats there hasn't been a case where you can say that there's there's really been an effective third party

say the green party or leave the term. movement or even members of the tea party haven't had maybe with paul ryan is their first kind of. swing at the white house but it's going to be interesting to see how this all plays out now you bring up the noninterventionist approach that ron ron paul brings to the table well the reason i say that this is going to be tricky for the libertarian movement in the future right now there's absolutely no dialogue in place about the war in afghanistan from either pull from either the republicans or the democrats the one candidate that has been vocal about a noninterventionist approach to foreign policy and getting our troops out of afghanistan has been ron paul so the legacy that i think we're going to see come out of ron paul's constantly running for president every other year is that. there is a movement out there that is growing that is that has a noninterventionist approach to foreign policy and above all other things i think that's going to be ron paul's legacy going out of this thing now we see it we just saw christine story there you know the normal ron paul crowd as they had very

energized a lot of them very young followers and supporters do you think that this kind of signifies the rise of the libertarian movement absolutely and we've even had instances where we see the super pacs coming out by by young voters by young americans that are saying you know there needs to be another party there needs to be a real debate in this country that's not just coming from the establishment two party system and i think it's young people that are starting that movement and i think that it's young people that it will eventually lead the way into a seeing a new party in this country do you think young people these days are are get sick of this two party system and want an alternative i think young people are upset and frustrated because they keep hearing the rhetoric from washington saying from the obama campaign saying hope and change and how much did we actually see in the four years of obama and then you have

a nominee. like mitt romney who is really not that dissimilar to president obama in as far as their ideologies are really not dissimilar if you can be especially if you compare the united states to other countries of the world that really do have fascist socialist. right wing left wing parties that are very very easy to distinguish ideologically you don't really have that here in the united states so yes i think young people are very frustrated and they're the ones that are going to be leading leading a new movement to to really change the rhetoric not only in washington but politicians across the country i think it's interesting i think that's why ron paul on both ends of the spectrum have are you know republicans and democrats have called ron paul's i. they've been described as radical so he's managed to upset people on both sides of the political spectrum which kind of proves the point that he certainly has his own views and separate himself from the establishment he's consistent linsanity that whether or not i stand or do that he's radical he is

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