silver investors guard. call today eight hundred two hundred seven goal. setting an r t with the bad weather out of the way the republican national convention is in full swing in tampa but not everyone is thinking they're wrong because praises coming up are t. asked maine's delegates at the r. and c. is bending the rules plus a former marine detained and sent to a psychiatric ward all for writing anti-government comments on his facebook as a supporter of terror prevention or the latest assault on free speech we'll speak to the marines lawyer. and one of the poorest most dangerous cities in the u.s. is attempting to rein in its debt its plan lay off its entire police force and replace it with one that doesn't have collective bargaining powers does this sound counter-intuitive to you coming up we'll find out if this tactic can actually work

. it's tuesday august twenty eighth five pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wahl and you're watching our team. but begin today in tampa florida where the republican national convention is kicking off slated to speak as mitt romney's wife ann and new jersey governor chris christie story are perceived as out shot this video with their camera phone inside the r. and c. the roll call to officially nominate mitt romney as the g.o.p. candidate for president got underway during tonight's speech is there not expected to mention what's been happening with the political process of actually nominating their candidate mitt romney but we do want to tell you more about it are the white house correspondent christine freeze out is in tampa for more on the story. of the

thousands of ron paul supporters who attended his weekend rally a few of them are here on business political business mike wallace is here as a delegate from the state of maine and has spent the last week involved in a bitter fight quietly unfolding in the shadows there is a lack of. integrity with voting that way they aren't seen as handlers i mean delegation the republican national committee's rules committee and credentials committee has gotten involved as well and succeeded in dismantling something delegates say is theirs they basically decided to unseat all of our delegates and then they reappointed twenty new delegates and twenty new alternates they did they did keep ten of our delegates and ten of our alternates so we base that stripped of half of our delegates for paul supporters and this is the way small battles were supposed to be won at a grassroots level and by following a little known rules in america's sometimes confusing political process but the rules ron paul himself says seem irrelevant to those in charge they've been bending

the rules and breaking the rules and rewriting rules for too long that's what we have to stop from happening twenty one year old ashley ryan has become one of the highest profile faces in this fight and spoke about the consequences at this weekend's rally in the best case scenario delegates will be awarded proportionately . in the worst case scenario every state could become winner take all. delegates say it could undermine democracy as we know it turning each political party from a big tent with many ideas to a small group of political insiders who call all the shots in tampa christine for zero r.t. . what turned out to ask the question when does the punishment fit the crime the punishment i'm talking about involves u.s. troops and their actions in two high profile cases and afghanistan one case

involves marines urinating on corpses and the other case deals with u.s. soldiers burning copies of the koran r.t. was the first one of the first networks to report on the video showing four marines urinating on the bodies of what appears to be three dead taliban insurgents as you can see the marines are in full combat gear this video set off a firestorm of controversy here in the u.s. most members of the military and political world quickly apologized but others cheered on their actions including conservative radio host and c.n.n. contributor dana lash can someone explain to me if there's supposed to be a scandal that someone pees on the corpse of a taliban fighter someone who was this is part of an organization murdered over three thousand americans. i dropped due to that's me though. when i started reporting on this video it quickly proved to be a divisive issue our online comments section on you tube created

a heated debate both for and against the actions of the marines but back to the punishment for those involved one that will face no discipline at all the other three the other three men pleaded guilty and will receive a permanent mark on their records that will impact any future promotions for re-enlistment so basically a slap on the wrist the u.s. military has also handed down punishment for the burning of korans back in february when news of the burning of the crohn's leaked it touched off several days of rioting and attacks on the us us troops in baghran base in north cobol you see there afghan president hamid karzai called on a public trial trial for the soldiers involved but that's not going to happen that's because the army has found no ill intent and the koran burning so no criminal charges will be filed those soldiers however will face administrative discipline which could mean a cut in pay or

a demotion so back to the question when did when does the punishment fit the crime after nearly eleven years inside afghanistan some of the actions by the u.s. don't appear to be winning the hearts and minds of locals there. was still had on our t.v. there the men and women who risked their lives to protect the u.s. but it turns out the government might be keeping a close eye on its veterans ahead will tell you the story of how one marine was detained for his critical facebook posts. thank you and thank you you are. the because.

the boy. here's mitt romney trying to figure out the name of that place that limo is called . far left doesn't want the usa to defeat terrorism. to sell the name of. the only and the christian. folk want to hold. your beliefs about this because you know the corporate media the structures from what you and i should care about because they're profit driven

industry that sells a sensationalistic garbage and calls it breaking news i'm having martin and we're going to break this about. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through it's already been made who can you trust no one who is in view with

the global machinery see where we had a state controlled capitalism is called sessions when nobody dares to ask we do our t.v. question more. an update now to the marine that was sent to a psych ward for his facebook post as reported last week twenty six year old brandon routh was sent to a psychiatric ward for a controversial post to his facebook page. like my right. you're looking at video of local authorities and the f.b.i. arrested outside of a virginia home on august. the fear appears to be confused absolutely authorities what crime has committed the f.b.i. found his post to be anti-american and quote terrorists and nature but last week a judge found that there was no legal basis to hold

a rally in the ward against his will so what does this mean for freedom of speech in the us for the latest on this case i was joined by john whitehead the marine's attorney. well. the ruling we go makes a great victory for first and then we did talk to brenda he was here all day yesterday and we discussed. a legal case of rights actually gets the authorities here the government so he's thinking about that i think that's a real possibility i think we need to hold these people accountable as this is someone posting things those facebook there are no specific threats to any kind of individuals and i mean this is a as i said on the internet every day i thought about revolution in fact most of the stuff he was going to were song lyrics from a group called soul members a canadian rap group i mean i told people to be dangerous to quote guys like john one of those are some of the older dude's back in the older days to talk about revolution these days so but what it says is that they are watching facebook the

authorities are watching facebook they are conducting surveillance it's a very dangerous trend now rather wasn't charged with any crime. how are authorities any able to justify sending him away. under a civil commitment statute we're genyen almost every state have what we found is getting in this case about twenty thousand people plus each year in virginia disappear like this authorities drive a rival arrest them and take them away too and then assist in here brenda robs the other guy on the internet started yelling about it alerted us we got most people you never know about in fact this is getting in this case i've had hundreds of people call me that this has happened to across the united states but here's the weird thing mainly veterans i don't know why that maybe if people remember back in two thousand and nine janet the policy issue to men was called right wing extremism and leslie best friends were mentioned in those extremist memos so for some reason

our government weirdly so under the ministrations seems to think better is are extremists so they might be targeting veterans now this has been argued as a first amendment issue want to take a listen now from brandon routh himself hand describing some of the controversial posts that were on his facebook page and the line that i posted on my facebook wall was sharp enough my son michael and i'm here server head and what i actually meant was that this you know is what we call a metaphor because he sees me as a metaphor exactly now in addition to that i do want to bring attention john to some of these other controversial posts i want to bring them up there. one of them there are men and women in positions in power within our government corrupt bureaucrats corrupt judges and police nazis in the marine corps barack obama and

your communist cabinets we have another one their friends if you are unaware of the great amount of evil perpetrated by the american government i suggest you take you take your head out of the sand the day of reckoning is almost at hand and one more there the revolution is upon us i'm starting the revolution i i'm done waiting now john some of the as they are they do raise eyebrows to say the least. when you say those those kinds of comments would get some kind of a reaction i mean if you raised. here's the key the first amendment is written as james bastien who wrote it said to protect minority against the majority when he was talking about people who speak out so i mean i see this stuff all over the internet so they're going to have to start rounding up a lot of people and some of the stuff again sounds like john lennon song revolution

i mean can you quote people the internet these days that are extremists sure a question is what does explain this obviously the government thinks these statements are extreme but larissa king says something very similar this by the way i'm a big market picking fan so i think today martin is the king could get rounded up some of the things he's there and he talked about a revolution and about the way the perpetrator very good revolution of a right not by the way brand ragas not own a weapon and as if that interview which i can duck you just the clip from it he says he's nonviolent revolution is talking about a cultural revolution ok and we listen to are your interview there and you have described it as a metaphor i want to ask you how do you draw the line where the line between a threat and a metaphor how can authorities tell the difference. well the difference is you sorry targeting somebody i mean i'm going to say hey i'd like to talk as though in fact i've seen some clips rates or at least someone really clips only internet of

all these talk show hosts are saying it's time to cut their heads off as. those girls want to go as i was told at the prison i mean so a lot of people are dissatisfied with government the basic question is how to parse between what is real what was the background check of this veil a decorated marine of this honor of standing members given that he doesn't even own a weapon i mean what's he going to poke somebody on but the point is he's been doing this stuff for a long time and august they go around the rather obvious time around about a million other folks right away those were all dangerous all right you know there's been a lot of discussion lately about domestic terrorism in large part due to tragedies like the one we saw most recently the sikh temple shooting over in wisconsin and they just had said that a way to monitor suspects is through social media and this is what hat is happening in this case they they were monitoring his facebook do you think authorities taking

that step is it is crossing the line. well i think you're going to conduct surveillance on american citizens the fourth amendment requires a that you have credible evidence someone's doing something illegal it has to be particularly. conducting surveillance while as for the memo if you don't have a search warrant here they did not have a search warrant nor an arrest warrant they're arresting and taking away and put him in a mental hospital if this is a real threat sure the authorities should or i discuss this but here again they have not charged with a crime is that we called both the f.b.i. and the place they said he committed a crime and we with well why did you rusty in the first place why when you just want to go up and talk to them they line vehicles off and down the street as if he was getting ready to blow up the trade towers so the facts here the police say he did not commit a crime so why was he arrested ok i do want to play a clip from another clip from brandon roberts it's kind of reflecting on the whole

ordeal. i never imagined that there would be problems to the degree that we have or or things going on that that are easy easy to find if you're told to go look for them. very specifically the rampant abuses executive orders oh yes a lot of people most the less than the political level put a rider concern about exactly or here's the president dictatorial power absolutely i mean it literally gives the president i believe a right is on law and that's what he's doing that's not only what's going on in this nation don i want to ask you looking at the wider implications of this case what does that mean for our first amendment rights and why should americans be concerned about this case well first of all what's good about brenden here rather rob is that he actually has done something nice he's doing in the first amendment allows it but i i tell people this the first just doesn't allow this it tells us if you think your government's going the wrong direction is times that says we can

petition our government for a redress of raymond's. so i think that the the bigger picture here is. it's time to speak up all right on these issues off on our griddle exactly bars are written on president obama's kill list i'm opposed to all but. i think our goal is moving in a dangerous direction but so does the a.c.l.u. and various right wing groups all groups i work with all the left in the right so there's the i work of the constitution project in washington d.c. we're all concerned is this in the amount of about forty different groups we're often certain about these things and here we have random robb's the no they don't come arrest maybe i'm to belittle probably or some of these other people that were they say oh you know groups like that i don't rob is an easy target to say this civil commitment to rivendell many people disappear his mother got a facebook and started yelling about it we know about it but i would concern about the civil commitment i think it's very very dangerous all right john thank you so

much for coming on the show. latest on this case that was attorney john whitehead thank you. an update now on a story we've been following from the very beginning after being detained for over a year private first class bradley manning is in pretrial hearings today the focus of today's hearing will be the harsh conditions the alleged wiki leaks whistleblower was subjected to while in military detention the army is accused of degrading and humiliating manning and what is being described as a flagrant violation of his right to not be punished prior to a trial manning's lawyer of using an article thirteen motion to demand that all twenty three charges against the private first class be dismissed because of the harsh treatment these conditions include little sleeping time being forced to sit straight for hours being stripped of his clothing and solitary confinement for twenty four year old is accused of leaking the biggest document dump in human history he could face the death penalty if convicted r.t.

has been covering this story since the leaks first came out on the whistle blowing web site wiki leaks and we will bring you the latest in-depth coverage as bradley manning's trial plays out. well we're going to take a quick break but coming up times are tough in the u.s. perhaps no city knows that better than camden new jersey their solution to solve their debt crisis lay off a police force so is this really what things have come to that story next. the climate of american power continues. i think. might actually be time for a revolution. and it turns out that a popular drink a starbucks has a surprising. mr

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was kind of a yesterday. i'm very proud of the role without you she has played. here is mitt romney trying to figure out the name of that thing that can you remember this paul. far left doesn't want the usa to defeat terrorism. cells neighborhood. feeling and the closest. point you. can sue the police service because you know the corporate media distracts us from what you and i should care about because they're profit driven

industry that sells a sensationalistic garbage and calls it breaking news i'm having martin and we're going to break the set. a crime and corruption so bad in one u.s. city that it decided to do away with its police force camden new jersey has consistently been ranked among the top ten most dangerous cities in the country it's expected to save the city millions of dollars in the local police forces place is the candid county police and to make matters worse what stern controversy is that these officers are prohibited from unionizing for more a spoke to r.t. correspondent reporting. that's what it appears to be liz because as you mentioned already to our viewers the camden police department every officer that makes up

that depletes police department two hundred seventy of them will be laid off by the end of this year and according to the plans of of put in place by new jersey officials house of those officers will be hired back to serve for the camden county police force which actually has not been created yet but once they are serving for the police force they will be non union members which means that these officers will not have collective bargaining rights they will not be able to bargain for pensions for health benefits for retirement ages and for salaries and this clearly is an indication that it takes more rights away from public workers such as police officers so this does appear to be an increasing kind of drive code words breaking apart unions at least and in camden ok so we have a lot of issues at play here one is a possible union busting another is the safety of the people of the city of camden

and is it possible that getting rid of a police force i mean what is that going to do to the city of camden will it lead to more police on the streets or less. you know liz i myself had that question i called a source of mine that works for the new jersey state police and i asked him is this a good move do you think this is better and. he put it bluntly nice said no this is very very dangerous move because first of all camden is the most crime ridden city in the united states of our viewers are not aware that the crime rate in camden is five times the national average and it is one of the poorest cities in this country so when you strip a city of that of all their police department and then you create a county division it's not clear if the city is going to become safer in any way you know we have to remember that it was just in january two thousand and eleven

when one hundred sixty seven police officers in camden were laid off and after that scrum got worse and new jersey state police officers with. reassigned to cover the city of camden and this actually ended up costing the state more so at the end of the day what we see here is that clearly a union is will be busted up but it does not necessarily mean that this city is be going to become any safer in the long run ok and you were talking about these crime rates marion and we do have some charts to show it's kind of illustrate just how bad it is in camden if you see there in purple that's camden and we can see that that is multiplied much more the crime rates in camden are significantly higher than the national average now we're cutting the police force over there and camden is also dealing with budget woes so is this more of a budget issue too to write its budget wrong or is it about the safety of the

people. well i mean it depends on who you ask clearly this is a move that they're saying is going to save the city a lot of money the officials the new jersey officials that are making this decision if you speak to the police officials there's not one police official that i've spoken to so far that has told me this is a move that's going to benefit the people of camden as a matter of fact many beef many officers are saying that this is actually going to take away police from nearby counties of camden and which will then be reassigned to camden because camden is not going to have a police department any longer so the nearby counties are that they're going to lose their security force or their security force will be depleted you know it's ironic that the stories coming out right now because the governor of new jersey chris christie will be speaking at the republican national convention this evening and he is a governor that has been known for stripping these collective bargaining rights of

unions throughout new jersey since he became governor in two thousand and eleven he temporarily limited barket collective bargaining rights of unions throughout new jersey he made sweeping changes to pension benefits and he also under governor christie four thousand police officers in new jersey were laid off last year that was across the board that's the same pattern we've seen happening throughout the united states but in this. that was our two correspondent in important that's going to wrap it up for this hour but for more of the stories we covered target or you tube channel you tube dot com slash artsy america or check out our web site r t com slash usa you can also follow me on twitter wall we'll be back here in a half hour see them.