coming up this hour on r t when the arab spring spread across the middle east c.n.n. international was there with camera crews and wall to wall coverage but there's a black hole in the reporting coming up r.t. asked why c.n.n. i special envoy rain was pulled from the airwaves. and no papers no id no worries a group of undocumented immigrants is protesting the d.n.c. calling for an end to the deportation prac down ahead we'll give you a few reasons why president obama might need to pander to the spanish community as well as a look at the day two of the d.n.c. . plus they're taking

a bite out of apple an offshoot of the hacker group known as anonymous has released the personal information of over one million apple devices once once they say they stole from an f.b.i. laptop so who should we be more upset at apple the hackers or the f.b.i. will sit down with our own cyber guru. it's wednesday september fifth four pm in washington d.c. i'm adriano sero and you're watching r t. starting off this hour a look at the curious case of c.n.n. international or c n n i as it's commonly known the problems stem from c.n.n. eyes refusal to air the award winning documentary i revolution commissioned by c.n.n. and produced at the start of the arab spring it chronicled in part often graphically the violence and repression in bahrain. the protesters seem to have disappeared

from bahrain's capital thanks to the intense military crackdown. we ventured into another side of. a side the government didn't want the world to see to find out where they've gone we drove to the shia villages passing military checkpoints as we left the capital. we're going to bring up with these protesters for a little bit. this is what the protests look like today young boys who behave here yes. so after putting many involved with it at risk and in harm's way the frank portrayal was rightly lauded giving journalist amber lyon and her producer awards and an amazing amount of goodwill however this is where things get complicated the

piece was broadcast once and only once on c.n.n. proper c.n.n. international refused to air it refused to air it citing purely editorial reasons why you may ask while lying and many of her colleagues within c.n.n. proper asked the same question lang continued to look into it going so far as to request several meetings with the head of c.n.n. i's programming whatever the reason the controversy surrounding the documentary and the decision not to air it has shown a brighter spotlight of c.n.n. i am certain business practices c.n.n. i has engaged in certain business arrangement it calls an association with government it offers countries the ability to pay for specific programs that's by a lot spotlight their country the names might sound familiar called the i on or marketplace in the middle east series they're designed to portray a positive economic social and political picture believe me just take a look at a recent critique featured on the atlantic of the networks eye on kazakstan series

highlighting what they called some unusual goings on adding you'd have to know the country pretty well to spot them. it's no secret that the bahraini government went to aggressive campaigning campaign mode in order to shape its image in the wake of the arab spring lobbying firms like corvus communications were brought on board it burns a mention that corvus complained to c.n.n. about their four rainy coverage and journalist amber lyon specifically c.n.n. international has denied these claims saying quote c.n.n. international has a proud record of courageous independent and honest reporting from a from around the world and he suggested that the network's relationship with any country has influenced our reporting is wholly and demonstrably wrong by herself as charge c n n i with censorship arguing that many within the ranks voiced their concerns as well so is this just another case of subjective journalism from the corporate media will let you be the judge. well taking

a bite out of apple that's what the second offshoot of the hacker callet collective anonymous did just that yesterday releasing one million apple i.d. profiles more disturbing still claims that the information was taking off a laptop belonging to the f.b.i. the f.b.i. has categorically categorically deny these the information because possessing information the first place there and apple has denied supplying the information to the f.b.i. and is trying to calm consumer fears let's not forget apple is on the verge of a big announcement slated for next week so to break all this down with me artie's own web producer and you're blake joins me now and so tell me just break it down for me what does this mean. it depends on what's real and what's not ok so let's just go let's break it down into the facts very well exactly we don't really know the facts of the unfortunate thing when you're covering stories about anonymous and hacktivism and the whole like this internet subculture entirely every story you're

going to do is going to be shrouded in secrecy because you are talking about a culture where there are no names or no identities at least very rare and so what is fact and what fiction is a very very blurry line there so if history is any precedent what we're looking at very well will be real because the follow through quite a number of times before so so let's back up a couple of is and so you're saying this. is like an operation of anonymous. collective members for they pretty much go to expose lex security and rather the need for security in order to protect vital information and according to anti-sex they've uncovered millions upon millions of these u.d. i.d.'s unique device id codes that long to apple products i phones i pads and the like they've come in contact with millions of these in the way that they say that they got these was they have to left top belonging to the f.b.i. so there's two questions right here if if this is all legitimate. one who is safe

if there's twelve million was random i phone codes just sitting around here and then hanging out yeah and then to. who is especially safe when those codes are stored on the laptop of some random f.b.i. especially it bears mentioning that the f.b.i. came out and completely denied as did out at you as to apple apple should say the f.b.i. didn't completely deny this exists they said that there was i don't have the exact wording from answer but they said that there was no breach as far as they were aware so did the f.b.i. hand over the files we do know that the f.b.i. was egging on anonymous operatives in chat rooms and i received channels in the past that's how they were actually able to net people with they had informants they had moles that went in there and fed information according to the book we are anonymous partly also from forbes put out a few months ago she said that the f.b.i. were going into chat rooms trying to bait captors in order to hope that they would

go work for actually an astonishing kind of they're trying to find a connection to get to wiki leaks by tying them in with the f.b.i. with these hackers so did the f.b.i. hand over information or was it actually just on authorize the actual breach or they go in there according to these hackers they did they were able to get into this computer back in march of this year access a spreadsheet pull from it millions millions of codes and they've published one million of those and if you ask any greenberg from forbes he'll tell you that they look pretty legit to him so. we really don't know the truth right now and it's unfortunate that we have to do a news story where we actually say well we don't really know the truth but that's part of the allure of this of the soledad's absolutely sure but you know we've covered here we've covered a lot of stories that have to do you know the cost of surveillance and the expansion of the surveillance state you know. just you know your opinion do you think that this is you know something we should be worried about that this is an

example of that bird. i don't know if this is an example of that but it's it's so frightening that this happened what two days ago now and when you go back and look and you examine this case the first thing that crossed my mind wasn't even all of the f.b.i. is keeping track of people's phones because at this point it's just to be expected we've had like how many different people from the n.s.a. a walk away from the national security agency in the last year alone say oh by the way the government is spying on you we know being needed we know. god who else help me out here thomas drake your name is lee of course yeah and so we have a bunch of n.s.a. agents saying oh by the way the government spying on you and how they're actually doing it we don't know that because by using national security letters the government is able to subpoena information from telecom providers tens if not hundreds of thousands of times every single year and due to these administrative orders we don't really know what the government knows about us we know that they're building

a massive eight billion dollars debt over tension center in utah we know that some of their top ranking former officials say it's period than you would even think and we also know that the n.s.a. keith alexander just a couple months ago was asking for the help of hackers after that i mean all of this very very old and once you sort of get into it all becomes sort of certain starts to crystallize and becomes a little bit more interesting as you go along however why why should people care right now because we're seeing that you know with slowly but surely all of this still coming out but you don't really see that anywhere being reported on and if it is people are saying it's ok you guys are right now there is absolutely nothing see that you can possibly do in america you cannot do anything about no no no i mean you know you hate come back ok i need you to quantify that if another poll let's go back like two weeks or three weeks ago to brandon robb the u.s. retired marine corps veteran who posted on this facebook a couple questionable statements no threats no no. violence and what happened the

f.b.i. the secret service local p.d. they showed up hadn't committed for a week and they just took him away based solely on what he was saying over the internet granted that was on a public profile and his things were out there in the open but when we go over these national security letters and ministry of subpoenas and you realize that if you go to the testimonies of these n.s.a. officials yes there is this massive surveillance program going back to predate the patriot act you know recently we had the whole trip wire fiasco we're still trying to get to the bottom of that is the government in cahoots with these private businesses who are conducting actual surveillance like on the streets across the world the documents that other have found suggests that yes said is absolutely the case but right now if you are doing anything in the country you can be watched and you won't even know it so let me just go back you know we have you know we here at our team we covered a branded robin and spoke as a treat attorney of

a little while back i'd like to pose a question to you however i mean i know that you're very active you know you have a very large presence online do you yes i do personas something i do i may have read about things but my question you is would you. do you take any sort of care in what you post me personally personally i feel like i want to say that i mean it exception. i'm on t.v. or and i'm in the public eye my job is actually to take information and give it to other people so the information that i'm handling is just information that should be out there anyway so personally i'm not that concerned if i had anything to hide i would be downright scared off my ass because you're really not safe right now you really are really really not and you know were these codes really taken from the f.b.i. hopefully we'll find out sooner or later doesn't change the fact that you're being watched a lot to talk about here and thank you so much later and that was our teens oh no

producer thanks thanks. so now on to the democratic national convention where president obama is facing opposition from more than just his republican opponents activists writing the undock you bus rolled into charlotte yesterday just in time for last night's speeches the group made up of illegal immigrants is demanding reform and an end to the deportation crackdown here in the u.s. our t. correspondent list wall brings us their story. from arizona to charlotte north carolina they have traveled across the country in what's called the un docu bus forty undocumented workers risking it all to bring their message to the democratic national convention you have the rhetoric of you know this is a country of immigrants but at the same time we have four hundred thousand deportations a year and over a million deportations and their president obama i want them to stop collaborating with ice and to stop separation of families and deportations dozens of undocumented workers traveled over two thousand miles on board this bus risking arrest and

deportation to bring their message to president obama we take that risk every day in our own communities we driver children to school on some people work i mean every day there's a risk simply just being here in the united states is a way natalie cruise moved to the u.s. from mexico when she was eight years old and the sixteen years she's lived here many of her family members have been deported six of my family members been deported so for me being undocumented myself i know that i can face that it's a reality some of the groups are closer to facing they say they were peacefully protesting outside the convention center when police arrested ten members in the act of peaceful civil disobedience they refused to get up when the police told them to stand up and they were arrested by the police here in north carolina they are now calling for their release and calling for the incumbent president seeking

re-election to pay attention to their plight is he also going to be the president who's deported the most people in u.s. history than any other president was he going to be someone who provides an opportunity for undocumented immigrants in charlotte north carolina. was wall. if there is one thing we've learned over the past four years it's that the fastest growing fastest growing segment of the u.s. population hispanics are growing not only in numbers but in influence for his part the president has tried hard to rid his administration of a certain reputation attempting to transition from the deportation president to the man who paved the way toward citizenship for young undocumented immigrants through an executive order passed earlier this year republicans on their end are putting their hats into the diversity ring as well but just look at the republican national convention from last week you'll see an interesting trend nearly every speaker brought up their family tree taking great pains in highlighting their immigrant

roots in the granddaughter of a welsh coal miner. he was determined. he was determined that his kids get out of the mines i am the proud daughter of indian immigrants who reminded my brothers my sister and me every single day how blessed we were to live in this country my parents immigrated to this country with ten dollars in their pocket and a hope that the america they heard about really did exist i am the son of an irish father and a sicilian mother it's the story of my mom irish an italian working class the first in her family ever to go to college so for the very latest on the d.n.c. as well as for the battle of minority vote parties only liz wahl joins me now live from the conventional in charlotte liz are you doing. doing well

just kicking off here a lot of energy over a year at the time warner center in charlotte north carolina waiting for the the big speech today bill clinton is going to formally nominate president obama tonight another big speaker elizabeth warren so a lot of excitement kicking off here and just a couple of hours sounds sounds like it so you know i'd like to just talk a little bit about last night and just you know the speakers at both the d.n.c. and the r. and c. were very outspoken about their immigrant heritage has that rhetoric swayed any of the immigration activists you've spoken to. well i mean i think it depends on who you ask you know a lot of i spoke to a lot of latinos when i was covering that story the undock you bust said and a lot of them were thrilled to see that the keynote speaker this year is a latino the first latino in history to be speaking giving the keynote address at

the republican excuse me democratic national convention of course san antonio mayor julian. castro it is that kid that is that the keynote speaker but a lot of others are just disillusioned with the way that president obama has his policies when it comes to immigration or lack of immigration reform pointing out to the fact that it's under president obama's presidency that the most people in history in u.s. history were deported over one million people in the past three years were deported under his presidency so a lot of people disillusioned and of course hoping that that will come to an end liz that's really interesting that you brought that out but i'd like to sort of go back to your your report that we just played a little while ago i was sort of sort of wondering how are they doing over there

any is anybody being charged formally what's going on there. well i just spoke to the organizer one of the organizers on the bus her tanya there she was in the story and she said that all ten all ten people that were arrested they are now out of jail they are facing charges they're facing charges for blocking the road it doesn't look like at least there is an imminent danger of them being deported they're not facing any charges in relation to immigration they have a court date coming up in december so they're remaining hopeful that it'll work in their favor and they won't actually get deported of course a risk that they took basically advertising the fact that they were undocumented and peacefully protesting outside of the democratic national convention hoping to catch the attention of the government officials and ultimately of president obama. interesting that you bring that up liz so what about the protests in general at the d.n.c. can you talk about

a little bit about that have you seen any at any you know any movement around. well out of the way over here you have your protesters various grievances we're not seeing huge the big protest was on sunday this occupy wall street south we saw fifteen hundred people come out to the streets of charlotte protesting many of the same grievances that we saw at occupy wall street in zuccotti park and those protests that swept across the country as far as other protests we're seeing signs and people protesting everything from immigration to abortion to. religion and politics and you see all kinds of signs protesting various things but in terms of a large scale protest i think that big event was sunday so for the most spars. protests that they haven't been they've kind of been anti climactic nothing huge under way that i've seen at least in the in the past couple of days interesting so

you know last night you know democrats were pretty much on message if you will is there i'd like to play i talked about castro at the keynote last night i like to play on some sound that we have of him. my grandmother never owned a house she cleaned other people's houses so she could afford to run her own but she saw her daughter become the first in her family to graduate from college and my mother for the horde for civil rights so that instead of a mob i could hold this microphone. rather really powerful i know there were raves about that about mr michelle obama's speech what i've been one of the reactions been on the floor there i know what the reactions were when i saw it but what have you seen. i think it regards to that clip that you just played of. that cast of mayor castro i think that is something that the campaign the obama

campaign what they're trying to do is separate themselves from mitt romney and kind of paint him as somebody that is kind of out of touch with reality out of touch with with the struggles of everyday americans and that it's the democrats that do understand the struggle and are able to to relate more to to to to immigrants to to the middle class and painting them in the lights that they are it's the democratic party that is able to connect to the common folks something that they say mitt romney is just unable to do and now so i do want to mention. we do see this push from both the republican party and the democratic party trying to appeal to the latino vote and of course it is a very important vote over twenty one million people are latino voters american let's you know voters so would this could be make it or break it for our

absolutely liz that becomes president absolutely liz i and i'm excited to see what you have in store hopefully i will talk well actually i will be talking shortly soon liz have a great time there keep on working hard ok those are. now on to canada where gunshots rang out at the victory celebration for new premier pauline mara one person was killed and mara herself was quickly offered off the stage uninjured after the first shots were heard. police identified the gunman as sixty two year old richard henry bain owner of a hunting and fishing shop and apparently little small fire behind the building where the rally was held before being detained he was wearing blue a blue bathrobe over black closed arm armed with a pistol and a rifle it's unclear if the gunman was actually aiming for

a raw but she later returned to the stage and asked the crowd to peacefully disperse historically canada has been split in recent months between the government and the people who are protesting student tuition hikes the likes of which have the country has never seen before the hikes caused days of mass protests and riots throughout montreal and massive political fallout yesterday voters headed to the polls of quebec to choose their new parliament in an early election the longstanding liberal party has been in control of go back for nearly a decade but mainly blame the party for the two but many blame the party for the tuition hikes and the extreme crackdown in retaliation to the protesters as well as rampant corruption this brings us to last night where the party keva qua returned to power naming by roscoe beck's first female premier in a minority government now the party was in favor of the province breaking away from canada though the chances of that happening are doubtful at this point so for more on the quebec elections here's michael border journalist with radio. it was where

the victory speech was being held and. essentially was what they called the pact to keep it quiet that was elected that they had been in opposition for quite some time and they were elected as the minority government that's when with the leader was making her victory speech and she was hustled off the stage very quickly then we later learned from our cameras outside is that somebody was arrested somebody burst into the back of the building been shot somebody in the vestibule so one man died another injured and somebody else was taken to hospital for a shot at some very sad because as he was being hauled way through the cop cars it's the anguish will are waking up and referring to you know the very divisive nature if you take of a question you know there are years and years and years of confrontation about you know about the party and their ideas to separate back from the rest of the country

and it's a very divisive topic and the fact that they were elected as a minority many see it as a defeat and other regret. to come back and canada as the whole country the separatist party has said during the election campaign that they're not going to hold a referendum he have the time is not right if that's not really what the population wants really what we're hearing is that it's only about twenty eight percent of the population that would affect the border referendum if we were to have one so it is it is relatively low comparison to what we've seen in the past lot of angle phones or our freedom is that they will see this as an attack from the english on the french which you know certainly is the case you can take the actions of one person and spread it on thousands and thousands of people there is a certain fear that there will be more more anglo hatred in the problem. that was michael boyer a journalist with a strong radio capital account is up next on our t.v.'s so let's check in with

laurie lister to see what's on today's agenda lauren. so today gold slips ahead of the e.c.b. meeting that's of the european central bank it starts tomorrow or so the headlines would have you think but is there more going on going into the price of gold than the macro economic trends that the headlines would have us believe like perhaps market manipulation will vent is something that our guest bill murphy has been investigating and digging up information on for the past decade trying to bring it to light for the public to really understand what may be going on beneath the surface with silver too and i should mention he sees a blowup possible on the horizon when it comes to j.p. morgan who's a major player in the market he's bill murphy chairman of data and he joins us in the studio all the way from texas to fill us in adrianna exciting stuff lorena can't wait to see it. that does it for now but for more on the stories we covered go to youtube dot com slash r t america or check out our website at r t dot com

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