and welcome back here's a live look at what's going on in charlotte right now at the democratic national convention now for more reaction from on the ground at the d.n.c. i'm joined by iowa senator tom harkin center dark dark and welcome to the program and it's great to be with you i hope you can hear me all right just got a noisy out here yet no it sounds you sound great your thoughts on how the d.n.c. is going so far i think it's great i think it's very uplifting i think the difference between this convention and watching the republicans on last week it's you know it really does tell the difference just visually on how we view america i mean you look out of this convention floor half of the can half of our delegates are women we are a mixture of african-americans asian americans just panic americans eastern european americans americans whose ancestors came over on the mayflower i mean we

really look like america and you look at the republican convention when i think i counted four or five african-americans about and mostly white males and that's why i say you just look at it and you see the difference in our approach to america well and i was a fairly white state and you know kind of a bellwether state in many regards here you're the senator from iowa i'm curious you know the conventional wisdom is that mitt romney has to win sixty one percent of the white vote in order to win the presidency. and you were just talking about the diversity or scene at the d.n.c. . can president obama poll forty forty one percent of the white vote absolutely both men and women by the way yes and there's no doubt in my mind he will because. you know it's the middle class that's going to decide this election

and i think when middle class independent voters. who haven't kind of made up their mind yet and they're you know a lot of these middle class they've lost a lot of wealth in the last thirty years. the middle class has just been under siege literally for thirty years although it's been the worst in the last ten years i think that there are you know obviously they're upset i understand that but i think they're going to look at these two candidates and ask a very fundamental question when they go in to vote which one of those two do i really trust in the next four years forget about the past the past is the past but which one of those two can i trust in the next four years to fight for me. who really understands my life and i think what you see here at the convention what you heard from michelle obama which are going to hear from barack obama tomorrow night

and joe biden they get it this is where they come from. they weren't born with a silver spoon in their mouths they had to work hard for everything they got they understand the middle class and i think that's what's going to carry them through how do you think it's possible that the republicans can pull off getting middle class people to vote for them when their primary agenda seems to be tax cuts for the rich and let's lay off some more public workers. well what the republicans tactic has been for some time now is to both i think quite frankly. going to use the word lie and lie about what the economic situation is situations like and what their goals are i mean i watched ryan paul ryan last week. on television when he was speaking and i thought any

minute is pants were going to catch on fire and you know it's just one missed also after another the second thing the republicans have been very good at is playing upon the fears of people and trying to make people afraid and to inject there's fear of the future and that to me is is really. i guess and i think it disruptive i think it's sort of demeaning of our american character but that's why they get middle class voters to vote for them. and they they distort the economics of what they're about and then they play upon the fear of people and rather than playing upon fear barack obama and we democrats are spurred rescues we appeal to the hope of people to their better nature to say that we're all together in this that we can make a better life for ourselves in this country and government is

a big part of that the republicans say we can only have a better life if it's every person for himself very very well said senator tom harkin thank you so much for joining us. are you ready to rumble join me for tonight's long liberal are marc harrold a libertarian commentator and horoscope are conservative commentator thank you both for joining and i think i don't back with the first night of the d.n.c. last night sans any american who young cost a cost throw castro however shredded the d.n.c. is theme of we built this take a look at this. of all the fictions we heard last week in tampa the one i find most troubling is this if we all just go our own way our nation will be stronger for it

. because if we sever the threads that connect us the only people who will go far are those who already ahead we all understand that freedom isn't free what romney and ryan don't understand is it either is opportunity we have to invest in it. so horace are we are we society is in vision by the democrats or me society has promoted other public well you know the democrats were more straightforward they admit that they are government centered society they believe that government is the beginning the end and the middle of all solutions or in general in that you know george washington did not believe that i did that why did he fight and i was the ice several times in order to create this cover it was in fact king george the third view that government was the center the middle and the endless all around it was dictatorship that was a kingdom that wasn't the kind of government leadership wanted to rulership over people were government interposes its decisions for their george washington that's what i would marry in a democracy where we the people could have a. oligarchy all it took where

a group of billionaires would run the show he fought to create a republic based on the notion that individuals would be citizens and they would have rights that the government could not challenge this is the very thing that our friends over at the d.n.c. in charlotte reject and that the government would play a role in their lives that the government would be here to make things happen george washington was the guy who commissioned who commissioned. what's and was the founder who did the eleven point program for for alexander hamilton eleven point program for manufactures who who started you know protectionism who put into place tariffs to put into place subzero buddies that wanted to seeing a place for encouraging opportunity and bamidele taking all that good for dictating all terms for government those are not won in the same i don't think anybody believes our fellow americans are founders you know we're not neutral on the idea of encouraging. but i couldn't disagree more obviously i think this is actually

a good thing that he said this i think there are two world views in this election i think americans have a clear choice i don't like the fact that they only have these choices but they have a clear choice here what binds us together in my mind is not government i think any time that you know what binds us together as americans it's not the government itself operate it was not this. this government that we create his own even though it's an idea it in our churches it's our families it's not an immunity if that's what binds us together that what brings us together americans are generous and i think they do share the problem here is a you know for you between guaranteed opportunity and the difference between guaranteed opportunity and guaranteed results so you know if you can do it all there's all that our having you know being able to run for school board or vote vote out the school board being able to run for or vote out vote in and vote out the local city council that pretty easy has no exit long before government ever created public education that used them on services jefferson kerno no that's a democracy democracy is taking part of that in choosing but the bottom line is what binds us together the choices we make it's the ideas the idiology that bind us

together are we elect people that share the vision that we do of america and then we find that are not government and not me ok george bush as you said it is a lot of joy you were to have said levy didn't our dad would have said it's not defined by our driver elected george bush who said that we're going to cut taxes on the millionaires and billionaires we're going to deregulate the banks and everything is going to be wonderful and how many jobs did he create net people zero zero zero and people were unhappy with that and they voted in president obama and that's fine and now they're not happy with what he has with this poor stewardship which is now minus four hundred thousand he's created over four million no macand his number is a meadow minus four hundred thousand in just four years his business stewardship of the economy when women here's the thing when the government is going to be what binds you together it's just like with education one of the main problems that libertarians have with education being run by the federal government or at least subsidized so heavily is by local governments as you know dictate in about dictated by the feds because of the grants all there are certain certain parts of what is whenever the government does something they have to have priorities in other words

this idea of our we have me senator we we center the problem of the we said it is when you let the government do the we centered it's not you taking your money given to charity the government decides what your priorities are going to be but the government is us and then it isn't that's what these governments often i think the government is often made up. people with their own agendas but civil regard as again interest in the law and why is it or not they should protect it why individual why is a group of eccentric billionaires running the show a better thing than a government that we elect it's not a better thing it's a bad product of free speech but that's what it's not we're going to see to figure out all the leaders of running everything on the first place i'm sorry i see an agreement in history that it's not dominated by five companies or fewer or fewer and that's a function of policy set up by we the people get on the radio knows that iraq was returning and such are stacked away five hundred years of american his starting all the way back in the twenty's and thirty's the government came up with i.o.u.'s it couldn't manage the move and clearly it has not succeeded and harding coolidge it

over tried that and for ten years it worked really really well abroad as the great depression of the one nine hundred twenty nine now they want to as i go with what they have been geno says here in his video and i think you've probably seen government isn't the enemy but government's not the answer to everything and what i see here is that you're only going to stop now i think you are because what i don't what i think what you're saying and i think what they're saying is that what binds us together the only thing we have in common and who are is that we're all in this government together not that we control it serves the needs that we a limited need separately wanted to do should but what we've created we create it and we can bring it back and i think a lot of people in this country don't like the fact it's being created is just running amok it's just going in one direction it it's not serving our needs to be come irony is a miniseries of truth is what happens in america the lion's share of the activity has nothing to do with anything government is milingo of people these large corporations right now it is not true at all but i didn't know him so to three hundred million are going to anyways so there are a ways you can choose to walk in american choose to go and play softball you can

choose whatever and you let you know what actually you know your neighbors don't dictate then she looked at me and i told her to meet american he says you can choose to be an entrepreneur i may not you know not successfully used to be that our most wanted to maybe you can you are going to eliminate spam thing wasn't exactly recip exactly you can't be an entrepreneur. there's so many regulations there's so many things all the hoops to jump through are mostly government made this is this is my dolly you will give me what do you know one of them and they're not probably talk about the big corporation they're talking about the governments that the hatred is over. what is the goal the game of monopoly to win at the end to end up being the one guy who wants everything right and that's pretty much in every industry what we're seeing we are seeing monopoly being played and what we. see are a lot of basic you know barriers to entry created by government regulation so the bigger it have an advantage in that kind of a situation it is those who say let's let others participate call it was artificial barriers i mean that may be true if you're talking about

a company's going to make drugs but no but no you know again you don't hear you talk to them about ok what we were and so what will be back and are morally wrong more rubble in just a moment all right. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture.

here is mitt romney trying to figure out the name of that playing that do you remember this paul. far left doesn't want the usa to defeat terrorism. to sell. on the olympics and the cars. going to all. the suburbs but you know the corporate media distracts us from what you and i should care about because they're profit driven industry that sells a sensational stick garbage because that breaking news i'm having martin and we're going to break that.

up. more about joining me again ties along liberal marc harrold libertarian commentator and horace cooper conservative commentator and thank you both for being with me tonight also the d.n.c. last night we saw a tribute to ted kennedy and with this particular rival torie clip of him and mitt romney debating back in one thousand nine hundred forty one. i believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country i believe that since roe v wade has been the law for twenty years that we should sustain and support it and i sustain and support that law and the right of a woman to make that choice on the question of the choice issue i have supported the roe v wade i am pro choice my opponent is multiple choice so you can get

a guy who as literally on virtually any issue you can name then multiple choice really get elected president states mark well i mean you can always say that your views of evolved you can always say that you change your mind with more information and the one probably has there is he said it so forty fourth in roe v wade i was kind of interesting when roe v wade is sort of set. as if that's i mean that is the thing that limits the laws from being passed in states it's not in self a law it's interesting to see in that context the way it's expressed but he's talking about there is saying no it's precedent it's narrative slices we shouldn't overrule it because it's been around long enough that people expected it but you know long as he goes further and now he's got an even bigger problem now it's been the law of the land so much longer i think that's very effective stuff and i think that when i saw that i realized how much further how much different he has to be in this election that his earlier elections in massachusetts i guess one of the best things they have going for him or i will concede it is much harder to present yourself in an electoral position when you can be seen making statements that are clearly contradictory however i think that's the problem that mr obama faces as

well he made a lot of statements in the walk up to getting elected this president and people are just asking well let's see what you said that a lot of these bonuses stories and i try to really try to doesn't count incomplete the republicans are you in the senate i guess well you know i'm sorry elect me president harry truman or no republican areas you're going to call out a do nothing congress and work we'll see of barack obama calling you know he congress work but one of the things that he did do is he's saved general motors and chrysler one point two million vehicles were sold last month by general motors chrysler and ford since bush's great you know this is the best numbers in the bushes great recession began in two thousand and seven big three automakers also saw huge sales increases year over year ronnie's criticize the president for this move we have just one minute your thoughts on saving the auto industry i hope one day the case is brought before the supreme court and the unconstitutional taking that this represents is undone by the supreme court it was outrageous what you

wanted to see and hope a lot of down that it is not appropriate for a million people to say it's ok to still assets from other people who lawfully were allowed to keep those assets and the other museums very much also it was is known not with the bondholders the other news is that these companies still fundamentally have the same. problems that they had before of this bankruptcy managed bankruptcy occurred and those problems until they are dealt with actually are they likely no. shame is less how come their bank roll new hires come in at fourteen fifteen dollars an hour instead of thirty or thirty dollars an hour i mean it's it that we were seeing the middle class collapse you know the republican strategy of the last thirty four point five gallon requirement that mr obama is doing is going to destroy the american automotive industry month most of europe is already there exactly it's going to destroy the american automobile industry or a supermarket errol thank you both for being with yours. just.

it's the good the bad of the very very poor peroration ugly the good u.s. district judge k. michael moore yesterday judge moore ruled that florida's policy of charging in-state students higher in-state college tuition u.s. students who are u.s. citizens higher in-state tuition for college if their parents were illegal immigrants violates the constitution more argued the policy violates the equal protection clause of the constitution by forcing u.s. citizens students to pay nearly three times that of other florida students with legal u.s. there's some parents a lawsuit was initially filed by the southern poverty law center on behalf of many florida students who were denied regular in-state tuition if you're born in the united states you're a citizen as a result you deserve all the rights and freedoms that come with citizenship kudos to judge moore for standing up to florida's outrageous policy giving thousands of

u.s. citizens students created greater access to education the bad state of virginia thanks to incredibly lax gun laws in the state last year virginia issued a staggering sixteen hundred thirty two concealed carry permits to non virginia residents alone yes you can get them over the internet that's right the state who allows people who don't want who don't live in it to obtain virginia concealed carry permits and even more shockingly eight states allow people with virginia concealed carry permits to carry a gun without a permit from their home state and texas wanted to allow people with virginia carry permits to use that as id to vote on top of all this companies that offer legally mandated training for concealed carry permit holders specifically advertised would join you plasters in other states because the classes are so lax so not only is virginia have lax gun laws. also army non virginians in promoting increased gun violence across the nation. and a very very ugly monsanto monsanto the g.m.o.

food and agribusiness giant will be soon and introducing his genetically modified foods directly in stores across the nation with out labels saying that the foods are genetically modified and if that isn't bad enough new reports suggest that some strains of monsanto's genetically modified corn the bt corn it helps to create super worms that are resistant to pesticides and to make matters even worse these super worms are devouring crops in parts of the already drought devastated midwest and are projected to spread throughout the entire midwest so all and monsanto continues to put genetically modified foods which may contain dangerous chemicals on the market they've also managed to create another nightmare for hurting farmers and agriculture in america and that is very very ugly.

so generally the corporate elite like to stay tight lipped about how they view their workers most don't want to come across as greedy or as a scrooge but every now and then a cocky billionaire comes along spouts off about it titled once in the work ethic and we all get a glimpse into how the billionaire class thinks and this week we recognize gina rinehart the world's richest woman as that billionaire big mouth now before it play for you what this is right mrs rinehart said here's a little bit of her background she's worth about eighteen billion dollars all of it thanks to being a member of the lucky sperm club she was born into wealth never having to work a day down in the iron ore mines that she now owns but as a billionaire with a really clean hands she thinks she knows what motivates workers and she thinks the key to economic success in her home country of australia is to pay those workers basically nothing slave wages like two dollars a day

a letter explaining how federal and state governments must night that now more than ever we must lift international competitiveness just to stay as well off as we are and with state and federal dates we must get we have a stick not just for my class welfare for them all africans want to work and it's work because i willing to work for less than two dollars a day. such statistics might mean why for this country's future just to clarify what she said she's worried about australia's future as long as africans are willing to work for two dollars a day in australia isn't willing to race to the bottom of that same wage scale. aside from the tinge of racism in her comments are also completely uninformed this was the scene in south africa in august outside the lowman platinum mine.

what you just saw were thirty four african miners those people who gina rinehart claims are willing to work for two dollars a day on strike demanding better wages and getting massacred for their resistance they were risking their lives for two dollars a day paychecks for a modest raise to three dollars a day like ryan are the magic erast can for fifteen hundred dollars a month as a minimum wage that's roughly forty times more money than mine are things these workers deserve then again the reality of what you saw in that video is so far removed from gina rinehart's reality and pretty much the entire billionaire class is reality and you just can't expect them to understand the struggles that working people around the world face reinhart's comments that australia needs to be employing slave labor to compete in the global economy prove that she and others

who agree with her just don't give a damn about workers to her those who toil in our minds who develop chronic illnesses who risk death every day there are humans who have their own passions and goals who have families they want to raise who even one day might want to own their own businesses now to gina rinehart those workers are just numbers on a spreadsheet numbers that can be edited or even a race if the drive for profit requires. and in an increasingly globalized world are transnational corporations hold more power than sovereign governments the race to the bottom in wages is spiraling out of control affected not just miners in africa but factory workers in america too who've seen their paychecks shrink over the last thirty years and have dropped out of the middle class and into the class of the working poor gina rinehart would have been right at home in last week's r. and c. were so-called job creators word salted or the billionaire class was revered and where workers were criticized as lazy living off the government and screw over

taxpayers with collective bargaining she would have applauded eric cantor's attempts to redefine labor day as a day for c.e.o.'s and business executives but sheesh she shouldn't fit right in at a home in america a nation that once cared about its workers a nation that understood that most people don't want to be billionaires like gina rinehart or the koch brothers who just want to be part of the middle class a nation that made a middle class lifestyle possible for those who wanted it through government policies like a minimum wage protection for unions and reasonable taxation on the rich we need to find that nation and find it soon before the billionaire class and gina rinehart take us back to the days of feudalism when there was no middle class when all of us would be lucky to do a day's work for just two dollars that's what's at stake this year and that's the way it is tonight wednesday september fifth two thousand and twelve and don't forget democracy begins with you get out there and get active tag your it but leave

you tonight with former north carolina governor jim hunt speaking live coverage of the convention floor in charlotte like magic folks magic didn't do it in north carolina. this is not a time. to believe in magic. this is a time to drive education following this is a time to drive the economy follow this is a time to drive america forward we must do it together and we must real not barack obama as president of the united states thank you. mansoor hands off. the. good.

news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. operations today. family i lived in this nice community wasn't which was an upscale it was just like

you know our society ok then they started showing up here what happened was my company decided i could get cheap labor and they got rid of us. is there. was a legally legally. every morning we have to go to work and you know we have to pay our bills and we have to do it and that's just the american dream and if you want the american dream you have to go by the last i figure is here's one of the trails in the united states. and they run down my property and about this noise. from the wire is protecting the country and the kind of guy who doesn't mindedness pants dirty so i come out here you know we're all immigrants that we all hear something. in his first t.v. interview since he's a.