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the true reason for the. eleven years ago america began its war on terror and today in afghanistan a u.s. war continues to be waged by current guest has a very unique perspective on what has happened in continues to take place there joining me now to talk more about this topic is journalist and author jerry van dyke mr van dyke wrote a book called captive my time as a prisoner of the taliban thank you for joining our team thank you mr van dyck as i
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mentioned the war on terror began some eleven years ago and u.s. troops according to president barack obama are expected to fully withdraw by the end of twenty fourteen is that a sign of victory or defeat in the so-called war on terror i don't think it's a sign of either one i think it's a sign that the u.s. public is tired of this we initially went in for one specific reason and that was to dismantle the government of the taliban and to destroy al qaeda now people ask why are we still there how many are there under president bush in the early part of the obama administration we heard the numbers fifty there maybe fifty left in afghanistan are we there because a fifty fifty al qaeda members know it is morphed into something far larger than that is it because the former soviet union the former what we'll call the stands it was because ten tajikistan because if. you could stand to have the
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largest untapped oil and natural gas reserves in the world if you talk to the afghans you talk the taliban they'll say oh that's why the united states wants to stay here people say it's because we want to surround iran we have bases in the gulf we have bases once before in iraq we certainly have them in afghanistan do we want afghanistan and pakistan not to go to war with one another neither the bush administration. no the obama administration has been straight with the american public about that and finally we are responsible long with other nations for creating the very people against whom we are now fighting these were all allies of the united states and its allies during the one nine hundred eighty s. we haven't been straight with the american public why what we have created which evolved in some cases into parts of which evolved into al qaeda and which are we trying to dismantle that can you tell me what the war on terror looks like through the i. tell. you no one's ever asked me that very question very interesting
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question when i was a newspaper reporter enough ghana stand in the one nine hundred eighty s. new york times when we were tied with some of the members of the taliban today we called them the mujahideen which means holy warriors the taliban told me that we are the sons and the grandsons of the mujahideen when i was captured by the taliban and when i was in prison i had to listen for hours and hours and hours to taliban recruitment tapes and suicide recruitment tapes they talked of are they seeing a chant of pashtoon history pashtoon geography pashtoon poetry this is a nationalist movement in their view they are simply trying to free themselves of foreign infidel invaders exactly like their fathers and grandfathers in order to have what they feel is a proper islamic government the taliban have become somewhat different.
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and that is it's a result of their ties to al qaeda. which is comprised of foreigners primarily arabs gyptian zz. chechens specs those from western china and even some from europe so it is a different entity entirely it is strictly interested in international jihad but the taliban have been. because of their ties to al qaeda and because of the twenty four seven news cycle they have become far more international but deep down in their hearts they're interested in one thing and that is an islamic government and a pashtoon islamic government now i don't want to make this too complicated for viewers but for them the pashtoon are afghanistan and they were at war before we came up with what we call the northern alliance the tajiks these are different ethnic groups in the north so this is also an element here there's an
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ethnic war at play here as much as anything else but deep down more than anything else they want a unified pashtoon land they want an afghanistan that is deeply muslim their interest ultimately is certainly not to attack the united states but because of their exposure to the international world now they're far more capable of trying to go across to so essential asia to expand the perhaps into iran yeah that element is there you were how hostage forty five things by the taliban cracked what was that experience like. frightening. thing. what did you learn that you didn't know about. i thought initially i would be killed immediately but what i learned and what surprised me was that even though i
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was a prisoner. even though i lived in constant fear. that i was also treated with respect and i was treated as a guest. because and this gets to the heart of your question ultimately. tribal law pashtoon tribal law called question wally tribal codes take precedence over islam that deep down they are pashtoon they are members of tribes more than they are muslims and i think that's one reason why i survived. i'm not sure why i survived. and why did they let you go after forty five things i still don't know the answer jonathan is i'm trying to find out i get many i hear i get many what did they say to you once they were unlocking the chains from your arm they said congratulations on the scaping death i daresay this i will that about
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a year ago i got a call from someone a foreigner european and he asked me to go down to an apartment in new york two min there were questions from pakistan here by the invited by the state department on their way back to pakistan getting ready to catch a flight the very first question they asked me was. who kidnapped you. the taliban. or the government. my jailer said to me not a shot would be fired in afghanistan without the backing of the pakistani government so with the taliban in touch with the government did the government of pakistan know i was there did the government of pakistan in to intervene and ultimately save me. did jalali dean the hook. the network. that we are at war with. and with which i lived in the one nine hundred eighty s.
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and his name i use constantly to try and save me and who i was trying to get to because i thought by getting to a kani i could find out about al qaeda did he ultimately hold on to that tribal law and say me i've heard so many different things that's why it's a very murky complicated place in the war is far far different from the way we perceive it in the media speaking of tribes what are u.s. intelligence capabilities among the tribes do you believe that washington has enough knowledge when it comes to the language and cultural experience of the particular reasons in afghanistan that need to be fully understood there was a general flynn i think his name was and this was about two thousand and nine two thousand and ten who was in chief of intelligence under then military general stanley mcchrystal mcchrystal who said and i quote we are flying blind
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in afghanistan how many passions speakers are there when you when you find out in the u.s. intelligence community when you look when you talk to for example interpreters you find out that there is a huge underground network of interpreters all of whom have to pay bribes before they can work with with the american soldiers who controls these interpreters well i'm not sure that they're going to completely free at all but television can easily infiltrate this is my own experience i don't think the u.s. intelligence capabilities are nearly what they're portrayed to be however. when you get to someplace like pakistan i think it's possibly a bit different we have drones overhead we're constantly under president obama we've ratcheted up the number of drone attacks to those drones and i've been under drones how do they know where to. tac you have to have the information on the ground what does that information come from it comes from working closely in tandem with pakistani military intelligence that they would choose to attack their attack
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there why after so many years were we have we not been able to kill the leader of the country network or mullah omar or goldman hekmatyar the three leaders of the taliban or why did we have to go in and kill osama bin laden why didn't the pakistani intelligence tell us where these people were maybe they knew and maybe they don't know but i happen to think they absolutely know. but they have we have to have that intelligence on the ground and i think it's far better in pakistan then in afghanistan but it comes because pakistan works closely with these people and they work closely with the united states and who they want to attack they want to allow the united states to attack i say this interview by asking about afghanistan but i want to wrap it up by asking you about something you said that because you recently said that you believe that your lesson and its allies are fighting a proxy war against. home with them together but that is at all without a doubt that that could create an even more dangerous time make clearly and in that
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area of the world if they still don't know what they're doing in afghanistan i can't figure it out rightly right is pakistan our ally or is it our enemy now the taliban and you take something like former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff admiral mike mullen who said that kani network is an arm of the pakistani i.s.i. pakistani military intelligence that we the united states have paid at least twelve billion dollars have given a different forms at least twelve billion dollars to the pakistani military since nine eleven but the pakistani military according to former admiral mike mullen said every everyone else is backing the tell of it so we are supplying money to the very people that are providing this money to the taliban to attack u.s. forces why. i would pakistan back to tell about what is pakistan's interest in afghanistan no single afghan legislature in the history of afghanistan has accepted
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the border between afghanistan and pakistan afghanistan was the only nation in the world to vote against pakistan admittance to the united nations in one thousand nine hundred seventy one single thing the border in one thousand nine hundred three the british when they ruled india created with this called the durand line they do not accept the fact that the land that once belonged to them that the british took away should belong to pakistan and this is deep down at the heart of this particular never ending war in the middle of which the united states and its soldiers continue to die over a war that once started out with against al-qaeda which is morphed into something far deeper far more complicated is an old afghan saying it's gonna stand it's very easy to enter but it's very hard to believe we're not leaving by two thousand and fourteen will still be there and we'll leave it right there thank you very much for your time.
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headlines on t.v. and film fury muslims across the world are venting their anger with protests first six i was following the release of a movie made in america. and washington slams the film and damage control mission while condemnation is also voiced worldwide with russia calling on governments to regard people's religious feelings. and tens of thousands protest against austerity measures in spain and portugal as the debt crisis promise renewed calls for separatism and. for now it's time to pull
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with all the sport. thank you very much for you welcome along to the sports headlines here's what's coming up. on truckload marti's moscow rise to the russian premier league following a one zero win over fellow title hopefuls will be. staying alive the bryan brothers win their doubles rub against spain to keep the usa with a shelf of reaching twenty twelve davis cup. on the four from for the all blacks stay perfect in this season's rugby championship but only after a close four win over south africa. but first following last weekend's victory over spartak moscow city rivals lokomotiv have nots to another notable scalp in their quest for a first russian premier league crown in a decade the railway men sing off rubin one nail in the capsule on saturday
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a tough task turning into an uphill battle for rubin and christiane sounding received his marching orders towards the end of the first half of the challenge i set things would break the deadlock after the break alexandersson lead of support was so fast the camera man only caught the important part of the knee treated ourselves and went into the match in the second minute rubin would press hard for an equaliser but to no avail one nil at the final score. meanwhile sponsored travel to cuba on the back of two defeats in a row looking to bounce back to form and it was the muscovites who took the lead in the early minutes with this precise shot from arsenal aiden mcgeady however just ten minutes later the home side levelled matters are joined figure out how wonderfully from a distance. the stroke of half time had the perfect charge to take the lead but even though he was penalty was well say by andre de can the second period mirrored
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the first visit his government had for a second time. fifty three minutes an hour for effort from emanuel and the nikkei the yearly class designs man never gave up and asked for the key to new super power pre-k. to give to parents who will drop my word for spartak down three not ideal preparation for tuesday's visit to basra loading in the champions league. baseball on sunday says carr has the line yet knowing a victory will move them up to second in the table i'm seeing at the time krasnodar looking for that consecutive victory of the namath but to move off bottom as they travel to rust off. the wall over in the english top flight chelsea remain top despite dropping their first points of the season one three neil neil at queens park rangers manchester united a second office called for unanswered second half goals at home to wigan asked miller up the third after thrashing rock bottom southampton six one elsewhere champions manchester city were held one want to start their wins were full of an aston villa on knowledge west ham finished goalless meanwhile the in the wake of
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the hillsborough revelations liverpool drew one one at sunderland. a very difficult week of course as you can imagine they're the sort to you'd never think sharon you know sort of person but you know a bit involved in the tragedy in terms of relatives. so it's been a real emotional week because when you shameful liverpool was part of the contre you know you also as a player and manager. you showing your agreement reached you sharing agreement contributed to portrush an emotional national important journey all over the ball. well on sunday there's one more fixture moment reading go head to head of the stadium with both sides still looking for their first premier league win of the season. in the german bundesliga policy dortmund fans once again turned out in numbers were even joined by chancellor angela merkel as the reigning champions hosted by leverkusen. headed home twenty seven. last playoff game then
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scored a second goal before half time. and sealed the win in the second half as the hosts cruised through a. victory. while the champions main rivals in last year's runners up are needed to try to. start the campaign. with minds money or money to kitchen bastian schweinsteiger. just. last year champions league final it's one that leads from. proved to be the case one three one. three wins from three. now in boxing sergio martinez has reclaimed the w.b.c. middleweight title after beating mexico humanizes arshad as judea by a unanimous decision in las vegas the arjun time was stripped of the title two
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years ago after failing to take on a mandatory challenger charge as jury and proceeded to take the vacant belt martinez dominated saturday night's clash for eleven rounders heading for a comfortable points decision however a late flowery from charles junior almost secured a knock out martinez hit the cameras twice in the final round of months to get his feet on both occasions when the bell sounded there was only one winner martinez thus adding the w.b.c. crown to the ring and title and also holds for now in tennis the usa have kept their davis cup semifinal with spain alive following a victory in the doubles rubber on saturday trying to love after the day michael called brian the top ranked doubles team win the world knew they needed a win to give the usa any chance of reaching november's final and they started brightly in front of a near sellout fifteen thousand capacity crowd on taking the first set six three spain's marcel granollers appeared to pick up an injury in helping clay in the
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second set but he decided to continue. from that point onwards the brown brothers did in the boxing out of six three three six seven five seven five when to have spain's need for prayer over johnny's first singles would see a different track the final five years for second place. while argentina have it all to do if they are to reach their second successive davis cup final not only do they trail two one heading into the final day of their semifinal with the czech republic. to a rout in talismanic one martin del potro for some measure of their struggles has been ruled out with a wrist injury the czech republic seize the initiative on saturday when winning the . thomas pointed to roddick stepanek defeated and while the shrine follows probably six three six four six three except one of the away from the second final four years. meanwhile russia have been eliminated from the world group after
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losing to brazil the hosts have taken an unassailable three lovelady is the first time in history that russia have slipped out of the elite group brazil meanwhile return to the top table for the first time since two thousand and three russia will compete in europe africa next season. now to cricket where the twenty twenty world cup gets underway this week in sri lanka england are the defending champions in the shortest format of the game having recently lost top spot in the test rankings to south africa in captain stuart broad will be keen for his side to reassert their dominance in t twenty south africa also happens to be the top ranked t twenty side in the world who are still looking for their first major i.c.c. a tournament victory and their captain a.b. de villiers admits in the past pressure may have got to his side. i'm going to be very honest with you i'm going to put out this straight up front to be a church in the past and we know about that if you if that's the ritual of people it's a simple as that we should set some really bad very bad experiences in the past but
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i. a source of us past we come in with a whole new look in the team we've worked really hard with all new management team which is giving us a lot of energy and a lot of new ideas so we will approach this tournament differently we would like to run the pressure situations we are going out there to do exactly that and like i said be prepared and really excited to get onto that field meanwhile it was a busy night for sri lanka's kumar sangakkara at the annual i.c.c. awards ceremony he won three awards including the people's choice waited for by the public is frank about some and have nots nearly fifteen hundred runs in fourteen tests in the last twelve months judging suspense of cricket of the year and won the overall prize as the i.c.c. cricketer of two thousand and twelve. writes it's an amazing on a i've seen the people who won before and i've seen the nominees. and the year these guys have had i just sat and watched an admired all the all the guys out
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there and philander faced him twice it got out to twice i reckon in syria and so it's great to be among women it's a huge honor to win it now new zealand have maintained their perfect record after four matches at the rugby championship the all blacks needing to survive a tough home test against a resilient south african side. i i. i think traditionally passing despite the world champion john it was israel that moving around the springboks the fans but still you held a slim five three lead a hostile explosive bryan habana with the south africa advantage on the break i two thousand so world. five for the visitors so i replaced one scrum half ounce me right side to martin break sending off i close out
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twenty one that's what i. well at reigning champions australia just about managed to edge past through among boys argentina the visiting team is taking a six three late into halftime after one of these trials disallowed argentina would also come out with a rule or after the break has tons be an audience who are faster by a storm a stunning two tries as many minutes appears that nineteen six with twenty three minutes to go and a trial by patrick a good thing i am a preventing a few jumps out happen because it's the second consecutive victory twenty four nineteen the finest in the gulf. and that is all from the world of sports now but you know it will be here with plenty more in just under two hours time here on r.t. don't join in that.
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