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ignoring that you've been a longstanding critic of the war in afghanistan so what brought on this specific out there this one was about the the futility of the deaths in the last few days and the utter imbecile lying ministers who come before us and made it a yardstick excuses for continuing the war there's only one reason why the war is to win and that is to protect the reputations of politicians our soldiers of the as human shields for ministers reputations what they're trying to do is to keep a war going on to the best moment that will reflect on the reputation of politicians so we do the same position the end of us will war when it was said that this war is being prolonging by those that have the power to end it canada brought their troops home two years ago so the netherlands fringe new zealanders are coming out early
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absolutely no reason why you shouldn't bring our troops home now the only reasons that we tied in with the politics of the united states we don't independent state we have to remind ourselves that we can take our own decisions and what we're going to see in the future is deepening trouble they'll be more slaughter because of this whole of this fictitious fictitious aims of the war was seen to collapse happening now there is no possibility that we can train the afghan people and army and police the poor will fight their own people will kill brother afghans for for a corrupt election election rigging the pravy president or to defend the interests of a foreign country it can't happen. you say that ministers are keeping soldiers in
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afghanistan to protect their own reputation but how does the deaths of more soldiers protect anyone's reputation the official attitude is we must protect reputations against our previous mistakes and end the war so that history will judge the politicians made the right decisions in fact we've been making the wrong decisions for many years you maintain that what britain is doing is arming and training its future enemies and i suppose there's a historical precedent for that there is a very powerful precedent that the americans trained and armed the mujahideen and the mujahideen are the worst government the afghanis are hanged in one hundred years the taliban were a great reforming improvement to mujahideen but we've done this in the polls and we are going to do it again there is no way that a taliban army or police are going to risk their lives kill their brother
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afghans in the service of a foreign country when we've gone or in the service of a corrupt president they going back to their tribal loyalties the backs. and the passions will be divided as they always have been divided and the likelihood is that there would be disorder were really we went through a civil war was going on the country was bitterly divided when we leave after we've left a few years the situation would be very similar they'll bill be more civil war and the likely future rulers will be the taliban what lessons then should have been learnt from both britain's own colonial past and the soviet union's experience in afghanistan in two thousand and one in strasberg a very a bubbly and member of the duma tapped me on the back and said you british i'm going into afghanistan and you captured it in a few days and saying that we run. did that and we were there for ten years we
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killed a million afghans we spent billions of rubles and we lost sixteen thousand of our own soldiers and when we came out we left a puppet government there but there were three hundred thousand. in the hills who eventually took over and he even said to me it will happen to you and he's absolutely precisely right we deluded ourselves we told ourselves fairy stories about what was going to happen we could change things and we couldn't there was a benign cause that the russians were taking up in afghanistan of taking people into bodden life giving them a chance to improve materially i mean nothing really happened in the end in we went in decided we're going to get rid of the drugs trade we were ending corruption we were going to give women a better deal and nothing has changed as corruption is exactly the same possibly as
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drugs trade today is is ninety percent of the drugs in britain come from afghanistan tony blair ninety percent twelve years later ninety percent of the drugs still come from afghanistan there is a different there is more of them now and they're cheaper on the streets so more people corrupted in two thousand and one the afghanistan was the second worst place in the world for a woman to live no it's the second worst place in the war for we're going to live with the objectivity of the war was a hopeless were utopian and we've we've wasted lives and make huge sums of money and we end up in two or three years' time with a situation just as bad as the one. before we invaded and let's talk a bit about the logistics and message that pulling out now would send what about the soldiers who are serving in afghanistan and they. those who have already served
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and the families of the soldiers who died when pulling out now send a message that everything they've done has been essentially for nothing it's certainly a tragedy the those families must go through this trauma of realized that this was a war in which nothing has been achieved but sadly that they have to face that eventually what it would be immoral and cruel is to tell other people the same lies and the people more lives should be lost in order to comfort the bereaved or to comfort politicians that they made the right decisions at the moment is no conceivable reason why you shouldn't start telling the truth to people and say that there isn't this mythical threat. of terrorism in britain somehow ending by being by b. afghanistan if we say to the taliban why are you killing our soldiers when they say
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when we've killed all your soldiers we're coming over to newport and to cardiff and we're going to blow up the streets no interest in that the reason the taliban is a killing british soldiers is because we are the foreigners with the in for little's with the foot of rain and we're occupying by force of arms their country it's this sacred religious judy to kill us if we're not there they don't kill us i mean to for the simple argument to understand so what you're saying is that pulling out of afghanistan right now wouldn't affect the security situation in the rest of the world nor not not in the slightest there's security threats they come from pakistan they come from the yemen they come from somalia they come from bradford we have a an attack by al qaeda that was from english people brought up in england is it not there better to have the us as friends rather. and enemies what kind of message
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would leaving now send to america which at the moment is a supposedly a trusted friend and ally we have a claim that we are an independent country and we spend billions on an independent nuclear weapon we should be an independent as far as afghanistan is concerned we've already seen countries that we greatly respect and admire some with themselves pulling out of the conflict quite rightly on ridley they've given huge contributions in blood and treasure we should take our own decision we know that at least eighty percent of the population are same for goodness sake bring our boys home by christmas or at message received no troops what about trains drones that are an enormous. problem i believe in that they've altered the rules of war that for the first time ever there's an ability to kill with minute accuracy
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enemies in other countries borders don't exist there are hideous problems in the future. a few days ago and eight at least eight innocent afghan army women in civilians were killed as collateral damage a slight error by a drone that's a problem in itself but the whole morality of warfare as the as drones are affected is an unwritten page nobody is worded there are no rules for this but we're in we're in this position no where we have the drones another the enemy's have the drones and it's a totally unequal battle and i believe that the world has to think very seriously about the morality of using drones in warfare and the problem is is that the policies we've been following for so long in afghanistan and iraq is the belief that you can win hearts and minds with bombs and bullets you can. aunt and the
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battle of the dexter decades will be willing hearts and minds of making sure that we're building some trust in the world communities to be destroyed by part of it by the belligerence and foolishness of our own military operations how do we then turn that around is there a political solution we try to build trust in between ourselves we try to convince the muslim community of the world who who instantly believe any fiction about western society who want to persecute them we've seen the riots that have taken place because of a foolish piece of film the soldier but the most of the muslims around the world are prepared to believe that because they've seen that we have double standards we see them that we're not being fair in the israeli palestine situation and that we've got to be in and attack muslims in in iraq and afghanistan so of course they don't trust us imagine the riots that we're seeing because of this film about the
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prophet mohammad obviously there's a large muslim population here at home do you fear that a section of it will be radicalized by what we're seeing throughout north africa in the middle east is i'm sure that the great danger the world faces is that the riots are irrational they're based on nothing really there but the the myth is believed because opinion among muslim communities has been primed to believe that the west is against them and i'm afraid we dangerous situation the tinderbox could go up at any time and in part it's mainly would have been ignited by the foolishness of our military adventures in the last twenty years paul fled thank you my pleasure.
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thank you. what we've got for you. again we. welcome scottish champions celtic. out of the t twenty world cup comes to an as they lose by nineteen runs to house. fighting back alexander continues his rise. rankings with a dominant display. but starting with football and spartak moscow have injury concerns out of cheese days champions league clash with celtic and they do sneaky stadium moscow clubs still looking for their first points in this year's competition after a three two opening day defeat in barcelona which of important reports.
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barcelona of a strong favorites to win group g. the race is firmly on the second sport of a spot tight they'll be looking to gain all three points in their bid to make the knockout stages tuesday's match will be a private moment for aiden mcgeady in particular he played two hundred fifty one games for celtic before moving to spartanburg and the good news for him is he's overcome a potential injury worry is likely to start against his former club sponsored were unlucky last time out against barcelona where they lost forty two however when amory says his team's going to lot of confidence from that game after the defeat to barcelona last time out this game against celtic is of massive importance to us no one really gave us a chance at the nou camp but we've gone very well and that gave us a lot of confidence niki stadium is going to be a fortress for us and i'm fully expecting our fans to get tried behind us and i'm sure this will give the team a massive boost spartak warmed up for tuesday's encounter with a comfortable forty one win a dumb car however that victory came at a cost goalkeeper i'm ready to come was forced off in the first half truths or
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shoulder injury and he will not be out for a month or muscovites of a ready last influential midfielder romelu to injury. here kitty will come back out of a nicholas pot after all doubts over the spot as head coach won't be using this as an excuse. we have prepared well for the star i even though we do have some injury worries however we call it doesn't excuse if you don't manage to get all three points celtic are a good side and we need to be at our best if we want to get the win that we need this is a very important competition for us and we also need to be prepared both physically and mentally. meanwhile celtic come into the match having never lost on russian soil however they have a miserable record on the road in the champions league they've not won in the last twenty games away from home and manager neil lennon knows his side will face a tough test on tuesday for the very top. spartak moscow.
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is an excellent coach. forward. in a very quick and strong and. skilful. very rigid in there. and. but you know we can relieve him in good form or with form. in europe has been pretty good recently it is a real step of for us and seems of class and competition for scottish champions do have a few injury worries about rome however frankly event not on the scale of sparks problem there have been some concerns about the artificial pitch of pollution in the stadium but celtic have been quick to play down its importance aside from glasgow will start as the underdogs but i'll be trying desperately to get my first point in the champions league away from celtic park since two thousand and four spots i will be desperate on tuesday to pick up their first points of missy's and champions league campaign almost to whites do have injury problems facing
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a celtic side are always tough to beat of a scottish champions we boyd by picking up a credible draw in their first game of the competition against benfica last time out which one poor fleet hati moscow. meanwhile the other teams in a group g. barcelona and benfica go head to head in lisbon on tuesday night and catalans are on top after that three two win over the muscovites has shared the points with celtic in their opening games you have richard say despite that basso manager tito vilanova says his men will have their work cut out. for second i said about you i know this will not be an easy match in the two previous visits here barcelona could not school in a girls and this means that there will be a tricky gate for us i think that up front very dangerous they play very well arts wide and as i said they're going to make things really difficult. meanwhile in group h. manchester united will be looking to put the weekend's home defeat in tottenham behind them. as they travel to run mania to take on c.f.r.
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pollution midfielders michael carrick ryan giggs paul scholes and an attorney or valencia are all missing from the squad hoping to avoid a scare in transylvania in the other gang pushing side braga travel to turkey to take on gala task arrive. to see the performance of kush no ask amy and brian. on the no two of us will beat them twice and we know from only experience of basel last season. saw nothing that gives us. over the respect for can give to a cause. elsewhere in group a current leaders chattered on us from ukraine busy event tests while defending champions chelsea take on danish side f.c. not just last. in group f. party but a saw from bella roofs host joint leaders by munich valencia and french meet in spain both sides last evening fixture. now it's the t twenty cricket world cup
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where england's defense of the title is over following a nineteen run defeat to high sri lanka the holders went into the super eight stage much known defeat would see them eliminated from the competition captain stuart broad winning the toss and elected to field goals were unable to contain the hosts higher jayawardene led the way with a thirty eight ball forty two and he was given a support by angela matthews to sell a player the contribution fifty four between them of just thirty five balls one hundred sixty nine for six disproofs twenty overs in reply england failed to begin at the crease and found lasith malinga in lethal form he finished. his five for thirty one as england fell nineteen runs short. well joining sri lanka in the last four will be the west indies they qualified second from the group after beating winners new zealand in dramatic fashion both
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sides scored exactly one hundred thirty nine meaning a supernova was needed to separate the teams when we scored nineteen from six. one . six. and mixed martial arts finally where alexander i am an anchor as as a sent up the rankings continues the russian known as the grim reaper claiming his fourth win in a row in moscow after one of the most brutal events in m one challenge history of daniel has more say. still one of the best pair of chance in the mixed martial arts heavyweight division. on sunday night. proved that in style the main event of the and one jones tournament held in the russian capital so the thirty one year old face the dangerous striker constantin the. best world and european boxing champ then maybe much less at depth in the ground game. from teasing it take
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down. like the fact that he showed so much heart and courage at every opportunity he was looking for a big punch and missed it always takes a lot of energy from you so i got him exhausted toe to toe and what is important i showed him i was even better a striking then took him to the ground which was also tough for me. when it comes to this way division every single punch can be to the side or. simply outclassed his opponent in striking reminding everybody of what he's known for fast and powerful hands and a surprisingly easy going attitude i was often on the edge in this fight you saw all those hefty punches swing over my head didn't you i even got the sniffles you see the feels like i'm going to start off in tomorrow. how well would wish that it take you through it was the least of his problems. will be giving him a chance to survive in the fight and make it to the final bell the outcome was
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crystal clear before that there was a unanimous decision victory for it's on those who have built what gave him an extra edge in the having floater in my corner is great it helps a lot in all respects you want to know why i was so much better than constantine tonight that's because there were two of us fighting against him my elder brother was with me. i'm sure alexander can do much better sometimes he was a bit too cautious just taking chances sometimes vice versa he was too risky in the fight. so his performance was not flawless he can do great things in the ring and what is best lies ahead it's already the fourth consecutive win for the sundry million who continues he's come back to the enemy summit on the fifteenth of the member he will face one of the world's best wrestling specialists jeff monson true
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test of how for he has come to. moscow and that is all from the world of sport for now but there's plenty more in just under two hours time. my parents really truly honestly believe that what had happened was as a result of my father's exposure to agent orange i was born with multiple problems . i was missing my leg and my fingers in my big toe on my right foot i use my hands a lot in my artwork i find myself drawing my hands quite a bit to me. for my hands you know just as if anyone. but they do tell a story they tell us story of. the
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