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who would be very creative for shareholders of rosneft i don't know i don't think so. or i'll be back with another update in around fifty five minutes time coming up next on r.t. we talk to the former british m.p. paul flynn who was suspended from parliament for voicing his opposition to the afghan. a british member of parliament was recently thrown out of the house of commons after he accused ministers of lying over military policy in afghanistan paul flynn is with me now but before we talk to him let's just see a clip of the video that got him barred from parliament the role of our brave soldiers of the moment is to act as human shields for ministers' reputation the danger to our soldiers is being prolonged by those on there who have the power to stop it other countries of removed the soldiers from this dangerous area where
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they're not doing all we're doing which is arming and training our future and to be isn't this very similar to the end of the first world war when it was said that politicians lie and soldiers died and the reality was as it is know that our brave soldier lives are being led by ministerial donkey's paul flynn after that you were disciplined by the speaker and barred from parliament for five days presumably you knew that what happened that you thought it was worth it oh it's very well worthwhile it's a very rare event and the result has been that my words have been seen almost all over the world as prison extraordinary effect and i believe that this may well be a turning point in public opinion i believe eighty percent of public opinion would like to see borys home by christmas and the government in a sense they're ignoring that you've been
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a longstanding critic of the war in afghanistan so what brought on this specific out best this one was about the the futility of the of the deaths in the last few days and the utter imbecile lying ministers who come before us and made it uses for continuing. the war there's only one reason while the war is too new and that is to protect the reputations of politicians our soldiers are as human shields for ministers reputations what they're trying to do is to keep a war going on to the best moment that would reflect on the reputation of politicians absolutely no reason why you shouldn't bring our troops home now the only reasons that we're tied in with the politics of the united states we don't independent state we have to remind ourselves that we can take our own decisions and what we're
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going to see in the future is deepening trouble they'll be more slaughter because of this whole of this fictitious fictitious aims of the war was seen to collapse happening now there is no possibility that we can train the afghan people and army and police the poor who will fight their own people who will kill brother afghans for for a corrupt election read election rigging the pravy president or to defend the interests of a foreign country it can't happen you maintain that what britain is doing is arming and training its enemies and i suppose there's a historical precedent for that there is a very powerful precedent that the americans trained and armed the mujahideen and the mujahideen are the worst government the afghanis are as hand in one hundred
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years the taliban were a great will forming improvement and we've done this in the polls and we are going to do it again there is no way that a taliban army or police are going to risk their lives killed their brother. afghans in the service of a foreign country when we've gone or in the service of a corrupt president they going back to their tribal loyalties the backs. and the passions will be divided as they always have been divided and the likelihood is that they will be disorder when we leave we went through a civil war was going on the country is bitterly divided when after we leave after we've left a few years the situation would be very similar bill bill be more civil war and it the likely future rulers will be the taliban what lessons then should have been learnt from both britain's own colonial past and the soviet union's experience in
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afghanistan in two thousand and one in strasburg a very a bubbly and member of the duma tapped me on the back and said you british i'm going into afghanistan and you captured it in a few days and saying that we russians did that and we were there for ten years we killed a million afghans we spread billions of rubles and we lost sixteen thousand of our own soldiers and when we came out we left a puppet government there but there were three hundred thousand. in the hills who eventually took over and he only said to me it will happen to you and he's absolutely precisely right we deluded ourselves we told ourselves fairy stories about what was going to happen we could change things and we couldn't there was a benign cause that the russians were taken up in afghanistan of taking people into bodden life giving them
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a chance to improve materially i mean nothing really happened in the end in we went in decided we couldn't get rid of the drugs trade we were ending corruption we were going to give women a better deal and nothing has changed the corruption is exactly the same possibly as drugs trade today is is ninety percent of the drugs. in britain come from afghanistan tony blair told the house ninety percent twelve years later ninety percent of the drugs still come from afghanistan it is a different there is more of the cheaper of the streets more people corrupted in two thousand and one afghanistan was the second worst place in the world for a woman to live no it's the second worst place in the war for we're going to live but the object of the war was a hopeless were utopian and we've we've wasted lives in the huge sums of money and we end up in two or three years' time with
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a situation just as bad as the one. before we invaded and let's talk a bit about the logistics and message that pulling out now would send what about the soldiers who are serving in afghanistan at the moment those who have already served and the families of the soldiers who've died when pulling out now send a message that everything they've done has been essentially for nothing it's certainly a tragedy that those families must go through this trauma of realized that this was a war in which nothing has been achieved but sadly that they have to face that eventually what is would be immoral and cruel is to tell other people the same lies and the people more lives should be lost in order to comfort the bereaved or to comfort politicians and be made the right decisions at the moment there's no conceivable reason why you shouldn't start telling the truth to
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people and say that there isn't this mythical threat. of terrorism in britain somehow ending by being the afghanistan if we say to the taliban why are you killing our soldiers when they say when we've. all your soldiers we're coming over to newport and to cardiff and we going to blow up your streets no interest in that the reason the taliban is a killing british soldiers is because we are the foreigners with the infidels with the foot of rain and what occupied by force of arms their country it's this sacred religious duty to kill us if we're not there they don't kill us i mean to for the simple argument to understand so what you're saying is that pulling out of afghanistan right now wouldn't affect the security situation in the rest of the world nor not not in the slightest there's security threats to come from pakistan they come from the yemen big come from somalia i mean they come from bradford we
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have an. attack by al-qaeda the english people brought up in england is it not there better to have the us as friends rather than enemies what kind of message would leaving now send to america which at the moment is a supposedly a trusted friend and ally we have a claim that we are an independent country and we spend billions on an independent nuclear weapon we should be an independent as far as afghanistan is concerned we've already seen countries that we greatly respect and admire some with themselves pulling out of the conflict quite rightly on rudely they've given huge contributions in blood and treasure we should take our own decision we know that at least eighty percent of the population are same for goodness sake bring our boys home by christmas pull fled thank you my pleasure.
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going to leave. georgia's president saakashvili admits defeat for his party in parliamentary elections despite reports of massive electoral fraud and ballot stuffing in his favor. you had members once again failed to find common ground on syria with the final day of the general assembly marked by damascus blood and rebel friendly countries backing and sideline and peace. and unrest unnoticed but rain continues its crackdown on protests has been five medics jailed for taking part in the uprising largely been ignored by the west. take a break from the day's headlines not catch up with all the sporting action and you can see it at twenty forty five twenty forty six moscow time high in
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a big not european football down the way of moscow two isn't it certainly is game week two in the champions league haven't started right here in the moscow up the luzhniki sports talk and celtic playing currently we're going to update you in just a sec. good to have your company this isn't for today and we have plenty head here including the following stories and bring. home hopes. underway against celtic as they seek their first points all this season's champions league campaign. fighting talk the possible. between heavy weird world champions. and russian alex on the affected edges closer despite differing opinions over when the body should take place. on take your pick we recount that mother joining the latest russian.
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it's far from an injury free. to the field for their second champions league clash of the season the red and white at home to celtic with a number of first timers injured for the visit of the scottish champions with the help time whistle about to go it's looking pretty even the loser need. he got the scoring started on thirteen minutes. but then four minutes from the bank at manu well emma nikkei equalized meaning one one with the whistle. just gone for. desperate for points tonight after going to close in their three two last week to barcelona in the opening game week you know i am raised charges on able to call on top choice goalkeeper a. brazilian move for tonight's. now the other teams in group g. barcelona benfica go head to head in lisbon later the top after their three two win over the most divides sure of the points and celtic in their opening.
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manchester united will be seeking to pluck the last weekend's home defeat to tottenham behind them when they take on. ryan giggs paul scholes and antone. if lindsay are all set to miss the transylvania clash though well which beside braga are in turkey for a gala tussle right test. over in group b. current leader shakhtar donetsk visit eventis while defending champions chelsea take on danish champs f.c. . with bad about a very selfless joint leaders byard munich while the lead here on illegal need in spain both sides striving for points after losing the opening fixture. in boxing alexander privette king is ready to challenge for the ultimate throne after extending his unbeaten streak to twenty five bytes after beating rocket man on saturday the w.b. a heavyweight champion confident that he can see the vision king blood or klitschko of the thirty three year old promoter want to fight by february or march next year
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following the second round t.k.o. of rock over the weekend ukrainian klitschko whoever first needs to be full of mario swak in november to keep his super heavyweight w.p.a. belts along with the w.b. you have been titles. stating they will not be pressurised into taking up but any earlier than july next year well perfected himself doesn't appear to deterred by his critics ahead of the looming. we. right now vladimir is getting plenty of worldwide exposure so i understand why i'm considered the underdog but i'm not too worried about it i'm surrounded by people who fully believe in me and i'm confident that i have what it takes to defeat him when you're going to russia's kontinental hockey league is heading stateside with the n.h.l. lockout in full swing sports broadcaster in p.n. has decided to broadcast kitchell games in the us the network which has had a strained relationship with the north american league will also show the games in
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the u.k. . the league for sure but surely currently has plenty to all for when it comes to getting our product on the market the clubs which currently feature in the child players such as the nominee says scott and scott will clearly draw more interest from overseas then the other teams but ultimately it will suggest we each match is we want to see broadcasted based on quality time difference and other factors in australia have made it into the semifinals of cricket's twenty twenty world cup the spike losing by thirty two runs the pakistan in colombo no zero job shed to the fore for pakistan early on helping himself to fifty five runs the twenty two year old getting the eventual winners back on track after a nervous twenty nine for to start the ozzies bowlers also having plenty of trouble trying to deal with the seventy nine run partner come rockwell's impressed with her to pakistan and being with hundred forty nine for six of the twenty overs australia twenty ten went up to him in twenty but their business but i'm knowing they didn't
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necessarily have to be the target but instead the teen us fish and run rate it just out there to live on sending for seven enough to earn them a second from fourth of july which is. a golfing fans in america are still reeling from a shocking comeback to fate by team europe their home ryder cup the incredible turnaround which saw the europeans come back from ten six down to win by a point garnered the highest t.v. ratings since one thousand nine hundred nine josé maría left about now able to savor that special memory as he makes his exit captain of the team. what they the was yes the extraordinary period you know if we don't have these wonderful graphic here with us because so for be here a church even meant those twelve men there did on sunday i know that. most of the whole world didn't believe we would be having these trophy here but they never stop believing and they're fifty four mostly showed on sunday the deaths there were just
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out sunday and all credit to them. let's head back to football finally to revisit all of the strikes that find the back of the net in the tenth round of the russian premier league goals galore brings you all to doesn't take your pick. play live. live . live live live
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