a war if i don't impose heavy discipline on the population in order to secure victory today the picture in relation to various world ceases is very different. maybe most cases there's not a great son in law great deal of popular and fusion about was the son the divided political. opinions which makes it very difficult to prosecute and continued as well as particularly problems on conflicts such as the one we saw in iraq is still ongoing in afghanistan but why always the no one likes a war but it seems like an old days people were really driven to win at this point everyone's life fatigued with wars what it depends what the was about doesn't it what system if you're talking about second world will russians kotak right patrols who will what was that stake was the whole future of european civilization today is was obviously the issues are quite cold in some cases there are divided

opinions about you know whether or not the war is worth the candle of what's at stake and so on but are the issues maybe blurred because for example. and other experts we spoke to there saying that war on terror is misleading because it doesn't really define the enemy you don't really know what you're fighting for do you think that might be the problem where the war on terror is is a vague concept i think the problem is more the. when the war on top terror has taken the fall with actual words such as the ones you know you see in iraq and afghanistan. there's been a confusions about book objects objects of those bills you know initially the object is supposedly. you know to have six security objects of various kinds you know but then they get confused that there's political and ideological projects in the projects to. transform the societies in the american or in the west and

self-image because that that makes the whole scenario very complicated but also it seems like if you compare the wars that were fought in the twentieth century i would say the second world war since we started off with that. it was also an involvement of ideological clashes like communism liberalism fascism. what's important today ideology or nationalism or patrick isn't what what would drive people today to actually you know want to win a war i think there are geological issues at stake in these various contemporary conflicts you know what various western governments and the elite eight western public opinion sees b. the state is no western liberal democracy and the values that i wrote represents various terrorists and fundamentalists suppose cons are seen as being a friend to his brothers and an effort to assist them sober up because she's

a striker not whether or not you know the fret is as great as it's made out that's another question and how you combat that for it that's another but i think that you know significant ideological issues at stake in today's complex maybe not cause fundamental on such a grand scale as the ones you mentioned in relation to the second or two up and of i think you know ideas and values are very central to. these ongoing conflicts because that's not the only thing a state is also a very a state state interests and versus narrow political interests. at work here which you know again complicates the whole situation we're talking about ideologies and at the end of the day if you look at why. america wages all these wars or at least official version is that they believe that people in other countries that are ruled by dictators deserve a better idealogy which is democracy so they're try to export that democracy to

those countries. save libyan people in benghazi from being slaughtered by duffey or save people in iraq from being slaughtered by hussein but then the ways and the means they do that. doesn't that really undermined their a core of the principles they're really trying to export and instead democracy promotion has been at the heart of american foreign policy for a long time on gun back at least a lot said tom of the first world war so it's that's not a new fee. the problem is you know what's the best way to. promote democracy is it by for military intervention is a by trying to impose your own system of other people is there even a way to impose democracy will recent experience which is just that it's very problematic trying to export your system to another country and see that clearly in

the case of afghanistan and also in the case in the case of case of right but the deal there is this come to america an ideology of democracy promotion that you know that democracy is not just good for america it's good for the rest of the world it's not just good for it from a political point of view it's also good from the point of view of few pieces and quite good motives i think underlying united states democracy promotion but as you say the way the way they go they go about it does have a tendency to on the money zone go you know if he talks with some of the former he were us officials today some of them actually acknowledge that the wars especially in afghanistan and in iraq. they were waged at a flip of a coin they didn't really gave too much thought of going in there and actually. having a clear strategy how to win why is that were they deep inside just so certain that they could defeat terrorism going into iraq for example or afghanistan. that's true

in both cases there were very serious ventures seriously conceived of them think there were decisions of the drop of a hat there might be wrong decisions but i think so you think they actually gave a lot of thought absolutely what i didn't give a lot of thought to all my view was that misconceived in various ways was what happens often the war what happens when you liberate when you go to pot what problems. is that got from how you got to deal with them so so that that is often where the lack of clarity comes into the picture and that's all part of the military strategy as well what happens after i mean you don't just go in liberate people if you know that they're going to be worse off once you're liberation but it depends what you think is going to happen and the afghanistan and iraq western societies united states great britain had a particular view based on their view of historic experience of what was going to happen you know when they went into these countries you know secured their military

goals and then attempt to skew their political goals on and that turned out to be wrong very much more complicated than i thought until the fundamental problem i faced was was you know ok initially they would i want quiet. decisive victories but the military campaign had to continue in various forms and the continuation of military camp by tended to conflict with their political goals for the democratization of what's most likely so they found themselves you know a whole series of contradictions complications which you know the result was in the afghan case there were drawing the chances you know there's a good chance the taliban may will make a comeback so so what has been the result of ten years of war in afghanistan that leaves iraq is not a very stable country at this point stable is a. that doesn't apply to afghanistan at all and then you know we hear a lot of talk about new possibilities of going to syria or you know hitting iran

do you really feel like western states feel an imminent threat from those two countries do we really need to go in those countries and invade them too no i don't i don't think dr peeke if western governments feel afraid from syria. not not some think. iran is a different case of it you know there is a perception on the raid for various forms of the coast particularly in the case of you know do acquisition of nuclear weapons but that's not just the fret seen by the west i mean you know the russian government also the fuse iran acquiring nuclear weapons as b. has has been problematic at least as part of the diplomatic and political effort to stop that so so invading iran would still solve the problem no no no no no i'm just saying that russia doesn't want iran to acquire a nuclear weapon no law if iran perhaps you have nuclear weapons or russia as part of a political and diplomatic effort to try out of that i've been shot in the whole spece

that's the right way to go and do whatever the military action is taken i do think that the experience of military action in relation to iraq and afghanistan how problematic is to is acting as a constraint on the american or western predisposition to military action in relation to run amok so sure about the israelis of course. they've got to make their own decisions and proceed around course but they can't really act alone without american acworth so. i would so i wouldn't necessarily say it depends how the israelis view the iranian threat or you're for of an iranian bomb what well what risks that we have to tell you i personally wouldn't rule hugo actual israeli action in relation to iran which of course would be a very. frightening scenario should actually develop hugo argue that soviet union was not prepared to fight a defensive war in forty one you've just said that america was really pretty

prepared for the consequences of the invasion and they lead to afghanistan and iraq . how should one actually prepare for a war of tomorrow. i mean that's very difficult because we do is disclose showed the generals are always preparing to fight the last war and it is a cliche but it does tend to be true it's only as the conflict on faults that that it's novelty its novelty becomes apparent there's not that type to the actual conditions of the war so there is no way to prepare for a new war. but yet we are yes there is a one of the ways that you can prepare for a new war is obviously by the lessons of history learning past experience but also learning the lesson that the future is always different from willing to be a little bit circumspect was mine for the bubble as you called said. chair journals

you know you always said that it's very easy the event to say was should have happened and what should have been done it's much more difficult at the time so you know planning for war is preparing for war engaging the world is a very difficult and complicated complicated business and the stakes in my you know you know the whole history of warfare is that all of the old was going wrong things not turning out as the generals and the politicians expect jeffrey roberts historian author of the new book style is general it's about marshall as you go of thank you very much for being with us today thank you. i never thought i could earn a living this way. natale issue of oil is the norm or should test small arms so

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little stories and i'll see dozens of people including children are reported killed after three consecutive. in the. cycle of violence riots in bahrain five as a fuel truck mounted machine box of it who died in custody after he was allegedly denied medical attention. and georgian president mikhail saakashvili to step down up programming election upset leaves his policy. and him vulnerable to legal action . lines now there was heartbreak for spartak moscow in the champions league last night with the details and the rest of the sport has an injury.

hello there thanks for watching and these are the headlines spartak spark the muscovites lose three team to celtic in the champions league are to concede in a last minute goal in the russian capital. last rallying the troops only coach gillispie calls on his place to refinance all this day prepared giants milan. was actually from the north american star shines for service style and therefore nowhere planned. but first bought out moscow have only got themselves to blame after their three two defeat to celtic in the champions league last night that is according to red and whites midfielder demi dizzying celtic took an early lead in moscow through gary hooper before and money well in many cases already this side of the break to hand the advantage but it all went horribly wrong for the russians

after that they had planned to start all day sent off on sixty three minutes for a foul dizzy described as stupid and that was then followed by a nine go from to meet you can bother to make it to you two before your guests a modest headed celtics winner at the death disease said spastic had been white school in possession then three in moscow later this month to have any hope of progressing. well the three two defeat put spartak bottom of their group having also lost the barcelona in their opening game by the same scoreline the spaniards kept their hundred percent right all day with a two you know when i was benfica. elsewhere amongst united came from behind to be clues you remain here a couple of robin van persie go securing a two one victory to united night top their group will gather task bottom after their team will defeat to progress persie happy with a good night's. they. give. us a little bit of work to those who would.

break. the laws of. the. world. meanwhile defending champions chelsea therms danish side michel and four nil to top group phase eventis insurance played out a one one draw in the other guy. the surprise of the night so by the russian side beat by munich three one in minsk outputs bought a top of group path with two wins from to be able to deal keeping the french side bottom of the table. which obviously got action continues tonight this in the coach leach honest but letty desperate for his side to refine some form when they host ac milan the same page as side lost three nil to malaga in their opening game in groups a and have been disappointing in the russian premier league where they currently lie six what's more they have selection problems russia captain igor denise of continued to be dropped after

a rather overpay while fellow midfielder and danny coach letting his age his remaining is to believe in themselves. is to return self-reliance skills and quality because we want them a bit others will come back to us later so we should turn our strengths and skills back to the level that we had to go through but one consolation for the russian champions is that ac milan the struggling to they are nine points off leaders eventis in syria and could only manage a goal or straw against anderlecht at the san siro in their last champions league match milan are managed by spell lessees former teammate massimiliano legacy and he too has faith in his own squad to turn things around. of their. lives a very good. and i believe i have agreed. we have started to boom birds recently. birds a lot of your now is talking locomotive yaroslav or top the western conference after

beating down armaments to one while north american imports scored and got an assist for service style and therefore in a win over land the first goal came in the middle of the first period with the nashville predators player putting service one nil up and he was the provider midway through the second setting it began to kick it off to make it so you know just fifteen seconds later service they'll go to third alexander and serve the man finding the target this time and the nice rounded off a very comfortable foreigner when put service stealth seven in the western conference while atlanta or fifth. the more games from the continental hockey league will soon be broadcast in america sports broadcaster e.s.p.n. has decided to show them stateside as well as in the u.k. it has been prompted by the current and acting k h l chiefs think it will be it will offer good entertainment. for sure but surely currently has plenty to offer

when it comes to getting our product on the market the clubs which currently feature n.h.l. players such as the nominee and scot will clearly draw more interest from overseas then there are the teams but ultimately will suggest we each match is we want to see broadcasted based on quality time difference and other factors in boxing russia's alexander privette can says he is ready to take on heavyweight king vladimir klitschko event cain is under feted in twenty five bags after victory over . the weekend on the w.b. a regular champion and wants a showdown with klitschko in february or march next year however before that can happen the ukrainian who holds four heavyweight titles need to be back in november rather klitschko camp saying with the klitschko camp saying any following fight would not be before july but whatever. the date that you want to use he will be ready for the sake of. the bottom one room. right now vladimir is

getting plenty of worldwide exposure so i understand why i'm considered the underdog but i'm not too worried about it i'm surrounded by people who fully believe in me and i'm confident that i have what it takes to defeat him. cricket's world twenty twenty pakistan secured a place in the semifinals with a thirty two run victory over a strike here a strike you had already qualified for the last four and pakistan needed a victory to stand any chance of joining them to say jamshed helped himself to fifty five runs for pakistan early on while you're striving values also struggle to deal with common and that while they were impressed with thirty two pakistan ending on one hundred forty nine to six in reply if they could only manage one hundred seventeen off their twenty overs victory sending pakistan three with the secretary and that from right to india and they could only beat south africa by one run and the like gang pakistan will now face her lanka in the samis whether she will play the west indies so i know we will end with football and all the girl was that flew in during the latest round of the russian primarily spartak fans might at least

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