is that is it is it because the cause isn't justified or are people just tired to wars. that the second world war the great patriotic war wasn't just one of course it was one boy you know the whole soviet people. the soviet victory defended depending in the end on the pope as pope for the war and the willingness to to make a huge sacrifices also depended on having a political and economic system that was i would say survive the challenge of war and on the lives of the war and also impose heavy discipline on the population in order to secure victory today the picture in relation to various world cc's is very different. maybe most cases there's not a great sunday not great deal of popular infusion about was the sun the divided political. opinions which makes it very difficult to prosecute and continued as well as particularly problems on conflicts such as the one we saw in iraq is still

ongoing in afghanistan but why always the no one likes a war but it seems like an old days people were really driven to win at this point everyone's life fatigued with wars what it depends what the was about the what system if you're talking about second world will russians kotak right patrols what was at stake was the whole future of european civilization today is was obviously the issues are quite potent in some cases there are divided opinions about you know whether or not the war is worth is worth the candle of what's at stake and so on but are the issues maybe blurred because for example. other experts we spoke to there saying that war on terror is misleading because it doesn't really define the enemy you don't really know what you're fighting for do you think that might be the problem with the war on terror is is a. concept i think the problem is more the. when the war on top terror

has taken the fall with actual words such as one's. seen in iraq and afghanistan. there's been a confusions about what help jets objects of those rules you know initially the object is supposedly. to security objects of various kinds you know but then they get confused with various political and ideological projects of products to transform the societies in the american or in the west and self-image because that that that makes the whole scenario complicated but also it seems like if you compare the wars that were fought in the twentieth century would say the second world war since we started off with that. it was also an involvement of ideological clashes like communism liberalism fascism. what's important today ideology or nationalism or patriotism what what would

drive people today to actually you know want to win a war i think there are already logical issues at stake in these various contemporary conflicts you know what various western governments and the elite eight western public opinion sees b. the state is no western liberal democracy and the values that i wrote represents various terrorists and fundamentalists oppose cons are seen as being a friend to his values and an effort to assist them sober up because he's a striker know whether or not you know the fret is as great as it's made up that's another question and how you combat that for it that's another i think. you know significant ideological issues at stake in today's conflicts maybe not cause fundamental and not such a grand scale as the ones you mentioned in relation to the second or two up in the i think that you know ideas and values are very central to. these ongoing conflicts

because that's not the only for your state is also the state state interests and first narrow political interests. at work here which you know are going complicates the whole situation we're talking about ideologies and at the end of the day if you look at why merica wages all those wars or at least official version is that they believe that people in other countries that are ruled by dictators deserve a better idealogy which is democracy so they're try to export that democracy to those countries. save libyan people in benghazi from being slaughtered by darfur or save people in iraq from being slaughtered by saying but then the ways and the means they do that. doesn't that really undermined their a core of the principles they're really trying to export and instead democracy promotion has been at the heart of american foreign policy for

a long time on gone back at least to a side top of the first world war so it's that's not a new fee. the problem is you know what's the best way to. promote democracy is it by for military intervention is it by trying to impose your own system of other people is there even a way to impose democracy will recent experience which is yes that it's very problematic trying to export your system to another country and see that clearly in the case of afghanistan and also in the case in the case of case of iraq but that there is this cut american ideology of democracy promotion that democracy is not just good for america it's good for the rest of the world it's not just good for it from a political point of view it's also good from the point of view of few pieces and quite good motives i think underlying. the stakes of democracy promotion as you say the way the way they go they go about it does have a tendency to undermine its own goals you know if he talked to some of the former

hewas officials today some of them actually acknowledge that the wars especially in afghanistan and in iraq. they were waged at a flip of a coin they didn't really gave too much thought of going in there and actually. having a clear strategy how to win why is that where they deep inside just so certain that they could defeat terrorism going into iraq for example or afghanistan. that's true in both cases there were very serious ventures seriously conceived of in fact there were decisions of the drop of a hat there might be wrong decisions but i think so you think they actually gave a lot of thought absolutely what they didn't give a lot of thought to or my view was that misconceived in various ways was what happens off to the war what happens when you liberate when you go to pot what

problems. is that got from how you got to deal with them so so that that is often where the lack of clarity comes into the picture and that's all part of the military strategy is what happens after i mean you don't just go in liberate people if you know that they're going to be worse off once you're liberation but it depends what you think is going to happen and the afghanistan and iraq west and size united states great britain had a particular view based on their view of historic experience of what was going to happen you know when they went into these countries you know secured their military codes and then attempt to secure their place who goes on and that turned out to be wrong it's very much more complicated than i thought until the fundamental problem i faced was was you know ok initially they would i want quiet. decisive victories but the military campaign had to continue in various forms and the continuation of military camp by tended to conflict with their political goals for the democratization of what's not such so they found themselves you know have

a whole series of contradictions complications which you know the result is in the afghan case that we're drawing the chances you know there's a good chance the taliban may will make a comeback so so what has been the result of ten years of war in afghanistan that leaves iraq is not a very stable country at this point stable is a. that doesn't apply to afghanistan at all and then you know we hear a lot of talk about new possibilities of going to syria or you know hitting iran do you really feel like western states feel an imminent threat from those two countries do we really need to go into those countries and invade them too no i don't i don't think so if you give us the western governments feel for from syria. not most think. iran is a different case i think you know there is a perception on the raid for various forms of the coast particularly in the case of

you know do the acquisition of nuclear weapons but that's not just the fret seen by the west i mean you know the russian government also the fuse iran acquiring nuclear weapons as b. has has been problematic at least as part of the diplomatic and political effort to stop that so so invading iran would still solve the problem no no no no i'm just saying that russia doesn't want iran to acquire a nuclear weapon know if they were on perhaps not a nuclear weapon so russia as part of a political and diplomatic effort to try out of that i've been to watch in the last bets that's the right way to go and i don't want to talk about the military action that are taking i do think that the experience of military action in relation to iraq and afghanistan how problematic is to is. a constraint on the america west and predisposition to military action in relation to run amok so sure about the israelis of course. they've got to make their own decisions and

proceed around course but they can't really act alone without american acworth so. you would wouldn't necessarily say that depends how the israelis view the iranian threat or your for of an iranian bomb what would what risk there be to tell you i personally wouldn't rule hugo that phil is right in the action in relation to iran which of course would be a very. frightening scenario should actually develop hugo argue that soviet union was not prepared to fight a defensive war in forty one you've just said that america wasn't really prepared for the consequences of the invasion they lead to afghanistan and iraq. how should one actually prepare for a war of tomorrow. that's very difficult because there is disk the generals always preparing to fight the last war it is a cliche but it does tend to be true it's only as the conflict on faults

that that it's novelty its novelty becomes apparent hand there's not that tyson to the actual conditions of the war so there is no way to prepare for a new war. would you yes there is another one of the ways that you can prepare for a new war is obviously by the lessons of history learning past experience but also you know learning the lesson that the future is always different from willing to be a little bit circumspect i was mindful the bubble as you called said. chair journals you know it was said that it's very easy off the event to say was should have happened and what should have been done it's much more difficult at the time so the planning for was preparing for engaging the work is a very difficult and complicated complicated business and mistakes in my you know. the whole history of warfare is that all of europe was going wrong things not turning out as the generals and the politicians expect jeffrey roberts historian

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forty people are done and over one hundred injured in the latest series of bomb attacks targeting syria's commercial hub. syria's worsening violence sees russia's security service for more and more countries in the region would succumb to terrorists control. our brain's crackdown on protesters heightens with clashes following the funeral of a young activist who died in prison term legibly being denied vital medical treatment. next it's the sport with kate.

and i welcome the latest sport and head of this second big night of european football headlines rallying cry is a need currently trying to urge of his players to refinance form as the russian champions prepare to host italian giants ac milan in the champions league. while moscow mulish celtic fight back it's not a stoppage time when it's a stunning ten months tweeting at the luzhniki stadium. and winning ways nine time champions rael madrid target a fifth straight year appeared victory over iraq as james a green yes man prepare for a battle in amsterdam. aside to football and the need for letty has urged his players to refine their form ahead of this wednesday night's champions league clash with ac milan in some petersburg russian child is all bottom of group c. after losing the right three to let malaga and have been disappointing in that domestically currently sevens they also have selection problems as russia captain igor denise op has been dropped over

a rout over pay while fellow midfielder said casey mark and danny are injured but despite the setbacks belletti is urging his squad to believe in themselves. or go to. our goal today is to return self-reliance skills and quality because we want them a bit others will come back to us later so we should turn our strengths and skills back to the level that we had. for me was a lot of also struggling that currently eleventh in syria are nine points behind leaders eventers after six matches and could only manage a goal is draw at home to handle it in the last champions league match while milan are managed by spell if he's a former teammate that's the million i'll agree and he also has faith in his own squad to turn things around. gallop there because milan players are very good and i believe i have a great team we have started to perform better recently and the more his goal is to play out the best board while i was where spanish champions rail madrid are set to

take on dutch champions i.x. for the third year running re al have the upper hand it off for matters between the two yet coached shows a marine you still took the trouble to fly to amsterdam a couple of days ago to watch i.x. win one nil at home to table toppers twenty watt group the leaders madrid to go into the match of the back of a five well five one even home drubbing of their. i understood that. the exchange. a few players from from the this season but they kept the same the same philosophy as as always. but in my opinion their team better prepared to play a chimpanzee and. they will give us a complete different match then they give us in previous seasons. for meanwhile group leaders paris travel to second place porto the french runners up will be

again relying on new signings laugh at you to him of each and thiago silva after both were on the scoresheet in their opening for one thrashing of the i care if there is insider i'm beaten in seven matches since the start of their domestic campaign the poor so also have yet to taste defeat so far this season and p.s.g. coach carlos mencia latino's winning away is anything but easy. porter our side with a strong identity they've been playing the same kind of football for many years it's true they've changed some players but the format is the same i think that for wednesday as for every match in the champions league the most important thing is to have the courage to play your own game and the confidence to play football in a stadium and difficult as the took our. well in the meantime spotlight midfielder de mint is a you says the most our side only have themselves to blame after the ten man team lost three two to celtic at the stadium on tuesday night celtic took an early lead to gary hooper before emmanuel and any key scored by the side of the break to hand

spots hack the advantage in the group encounter thoughts after sixty three minutes sent a hall of quiet inside all day it was shown a straight red card for a cynical trick on him and found desire you've called stupid not to soon followed by an own goal by the need to come out of to make it two two and in stoppage time georgia some of us headed home to himself to death first ever away win in the champions league response act must now be benfica in moscow later this month have any hope of progressing. well the three two defeat leaves the spot at bottom of group g. having also lost abbas alone by the same scoreline in the writing game while the cats were on jon's themselves maintained their one hundred percent record with a two no when asked ben feet. while in romania robin van persie scored twice as manchester united came from behind to him to want to kluge united not top group h. while ghattas arroyo bottom of the day to no defeat at home to broad us but van

persie is happy with a good night's work. we. were given. it was not worth it to believe it would be. great we're. going to. cover. it with. what in the mean time defending champions chelsea triumphed for the all at danish side no gel and two top group view ventus drew one one at home to shut down tonight's as the surprise of the night so belorussians i bought a very self beating by in munich three one in minsk top of very best with two wins for two and let there be a deal to nail to keep the french side bottom of the table. now into boxing or russia's alexander pivot in says he's ready to take on heavyweight came the mia to go after recording his twenty fifth unbeaten bout last saturday but it didn't beat has seen what i've done at the weekend and that there will be

a regular champion now wants a showdown with klitschko in february or march next year however before that could happen the ukrainian holds for heavyweight titles needs to be poland's mario's bunch in november and the kitsch go campsite and say anything going on right would not be before july but whatever the date of it can insist here we were at a. problem going on. right now vladimir is getting plenty of worldwide exposure so i understand why and consider the underdog but i'm not too worried about it i'm surrounded by people who fully believe in me and i'm confident that i have what it takes to defeat him. and finally back to football in ten weeks into the russian premier league season because he thinks angie have gone top of the table for the first time in their history well here are their goals plus the pick of the rest its goals go.

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