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a british member of parliament was recently thrown out of the house of commons after he accused ministers of lying over the military policy in afghanistan paul flynn is with me now that before we talk to him let's just see a clip of the video that got him barred from parliament the role of our brave soldiers of the moment is to act as human shields for ministers' reputation the danger to our soldiers is being probed and by those on that who have the power to stop it other countries over remove dave soldiers from this dangerous area where they're not doing well we're doing which is arming and training our future and to
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beat this very similar to the end of the first world war where if we say the politicians lawyers and soldiers died and the reality was as it is know that our brave soldier lives are being laid by ministerial donkey's pull through and after that you were disciplined by the speaker and barred from parliament for five days presumably you knew that would happen that you thought it was worth it it's very well worthwhile it's a very rare event and the result has been that my words have been see almost all over the world this person extraordinary effect and i believe that this may well be a turning point in public opinion i believe eighty percent of public opinion would like to see the boys home by christmas and the government with their heads in the sand they're ignoring that you've been a long standing critic of the war in afghanistan so what brought on this specific out there this one was about the the. till a t.
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of the of the deaths in the last few days and the utter imbecile lying ministers who come before us and made it a yogic excuses for continuing the war there's only one reason while the war is killing and that is to protect the reputations of politicians our soldiers are as human shields for ministers reputations what they're trying to do is to keep a war going on to the best moment that will reflect on the reputation of politicians so we do the same position the end of us will war when it was said that this war is being probed long by those that have the power to end it canada that brought their troops home two years ago so the netherlands fringe new zealanders are coming out early absolutely no reason why you shouldn't bring our troops home now the only
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reasons that we're tied in with the politics of the united states we don't independent state we have to remind ourselves that we can take our own decisions and what we're going to see in the future is deepening trouble they'll be more slaughter because of this whole of this fictitious fictitious aims of the war we've seen to collapse emmett's happening now there is no possibility that we can train the afghan people and army and police the poor will fight their own people will kill brother afghans for for a corrupt election read election rigging dupré the president or to defend the interests of a foreign country it can't happen you say that ministers are keeping soldiers in afghanistan to protect their own reputation but how does the deaths of more soldiers protect anyone's reputation. the official attitude is we must
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protect reputations against our previous mistakes and end the war so that history will judge the politicians made the right decisions in fact we've been making the wrong decisions for many years you maintain that what britain is doing is arming and training its enemies and i suppose there's a historical precedent for that there is a very powerful precedent that the americans trained and armed the mujahideen and the mujahideen are the worst government the afghanis are hanged in one hundred years the taliban were a great reforming improvement to mujahideen but we've done this in the past and we are going to do it again there is no way that a taliban army or police are going to risk their lives kill their brother afghans in the service of a foreign country when we've gone or in the service of
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a corrupt a president they going back to their tribal loyalties the. past rooms will be divided as they always have been divided and the likelihood is that they will be disorder when we leave we went a civil war was going on the country was bitterly divided after we leave after we've left a few years the situation would be very similar they'll bill be more civil war and it the likely future rulers will be the taliban what lessons then should have been learnt from both britain's own colonial past and the save it union's experience in afghanistan in two thousand and one in strasberg a very a bubbly and member of the duma tapped me on the back and said you british i'm going into afghanistan and you captured it in a few days and saying that we russians did that and we were there for ten years we killed a million afghans we spend billions of rubles and we lost sixty. one thousand of
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our own soldiers and when we came out we left a puppet government there but there were three hundred thousand. in the hills who eventually took over and he even said to me it will happen to you and he's absolutely precisely right we deluded ourselves we told ourselves fairy stories about what was going to happen we could change things and we couldn't there was a ba nine cause that the russians were taking up in afghanistan of taking people into boston live giving them a chance to improve materially i mean nothing really happened in the end in we went in decided we couldn't get rid of the drugs trade we were ending corruption we were going to give women a better deal and nothing has changed as corruption is exactly the same possibly as drugs trade today is is ninety percent of the drugs in britain come from afghanistan tony blair told her ninety percent twelve years later ninety percent of
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the drugs still come from afghanistan there is a different there is more of the cheaper of the street so more people corrupted in two thousand and one the afghanistan was the second worst place in the world for a woman to live no it's the second worst place in the war for been to live but the object it was of the war was a hopeless were utopian and we've we've wasted lives in a huge sums of money and we end up in two or three years' time with the situation just as bad as the one. before we invaded and let's talk a bit about the logistics and message that pulling out now would send what about the soldiers who are serving in afghanistan at the moment those who have already served and the families of the soldiers who have died when pulling out now send a message that everything they've done has been essentially for nothing. it's
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certainly a tragedy that those families must go through this trauma of realized that this was a war in which nothing has been achieved but sadly. they have to face that eventually what is would be immoral and cruel is to tell other people the same lies and the people more lives should be lost in order to comfort the bereaved or to comfort politicians that they made the right decisions at the moment there's no conceivable reason why you shouldn't start telling the truth to people and say that isn't this mythical threat. of terrorism in britain somehow ending by b b afghanistan if we say to the taliban why are you killing our soldiers when they say well we've killed all your soldiers we're coming over to newport and to cardiff and look into we're going to
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blow up the streets no interest in that the reason the taliban is a killing british soldiers is because we have the foreigners with the in for the world with the for the rainy and we're occupying by force of arms their country it's this sacred religious duty to kill us if we're not there they don't kill us i mean to for the simple argument to understand so what you're saying is that pulling out of afghanistan right now wouldn't affect the security situation in the rest of the world nor not not in the slightest there's security threats they come from pakistan they come from the yemen they come from somalia they come from bradford we have a an attack by al qaeda that was from english people brought up in england is it not there better to have the us as friends rather than enemies what kind of message would leaving now send to america which at the moment is that supposedly a trusted friend and ally. we have
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a claim that we are an independent country and we spend billions on an independent nuclear weapon we should be an independent as far as afghanistan is concerned we've already seen countries that we greatly respect and admire some with themselves pulling out of the conflict quite rightly on ridley they've given huge contributions in blood and treasure we should take our own decision we know that at least eighty percent of the population are same for goodness sake bring our boys home by christmas or at message received no troops what about drain drones that are an enormous problem i believe in that they've altered the rules of war that for the first time ever there's an ability to kill with minute accuracy enemies in other countries borders don't exist there hideous problems in the future . a few days ago and eight at least eight innocent afghan army
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women in civilians were killed as collateral damage a slight error by a drone that's a problem in itself but the whole morality of warfare as the drones are affected is an unwritten page nobody is worded there are no rules for this but when we're in this position no where we have the drones another the enemy's have the drones and it's a totally unequal battle and i believe that the world has to think very seriously about the morality of using drones in warfare and the problem is is that the policies we've been following for so long in afghanistan and iraq is the belief that you can win hearts and minds with bombs and bullets you can't and the battle of the decade will be winning hearts and minds of making sure that we're building some trust in the world. immunities to be destroyed by part of it by the
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belligerence and foolishness of our own military operations how do we then turn that around is there a political solution we try to build trust in between ourselves we try to convince the muslim community of the world who who instantly believe any fiction about western society who want to persecute them we've seen the riots that have taken place because of a foolish piece of film the soldier but the most of the muslims out there were prepared to believe that because they've seen we have double standards we see that we're not being fair in the israeli palestine situation and that we've gone in and attacked muslims in in iraq and afghanistan so of course they don't trust us you mention the riots that we're seeing because of this film about the prophet mohammad obviously there's a large muslim population here at home do you fear that a section of it will be radicalized by what we're seeing throughout north africa
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the middle east is i'm sure that the great danger the world faces is that the roads are irrational they're based on nothing really there but the the myth is believed because opinion among muslim communities has been primed to believe that the west is against them and i'm afraid we dangerous situation the tinderbox can corporate any time and in part it's mainly. knighted by the foolishness of our military adventures in the last twenty years paul flynn thank you my pleasure. no. wealthy british style. that's not on the telephone.
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turkey and syria as closer to conflict with a fresh exchange of shelling across the border as ankara warns that war isn't far off turkish lawmakers have authorized cross border military raids after five civilians were killed by firing from syria from bahraini police used tear. yes water cannon after crowds of pro-democracy protesters to stand on the nation's capital to push for more rights and ands to roiled will. moscow demands justice for russian student beaten half to death in a canadian detention center with doctors reluctant to comment on the chances of his recovery. and it's a day of silence in venezuela ahead of sunday's presidential election which is
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expected to go right down to the wire between current socialist leader and to. us headlines here in r.t. and richard will bring us the latest sporting action next. well welcome to sports have a great to have you with us as always. with the headlines. looking up caribbean struggling raul style to wanting to go second in the russian army because the point behind the leaders and. back home trying to sponsor moscow pick up just a second we need to make a gel has been easy over time to beat set a style. brilliance in beijing maria sharapova lines up a meeting with ali the china open semi finals but i'm sure we care about our ties
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injured. call for football where terry had gone back up to second in the russian premier league table well for the moment anyway after a two one victory over rostov side have not lost the last three games in a row martin come out of ski putting the home side ahead of the fifty two minutes and the corner from broadway a good goalie of almost immediately. squandering the opportunity to extend their lead this powerful strike from the sport ricocheted off the top of a bomb how about seventy seven minutes later than from time amounts made it to no i. think charles lane goal but proved only to be a consolation victory is the change inside seventh of the season. and for the second just a point behind on gene state thirteenth just two wins from eleven so far.
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will swear on saturday and inform looked to me to leave moscow's side they take. on diligence team probably looking to extend their own beaten run top five games as a real relegation dogfight and prospect initially not going to moldova rule. it's a part of the table and it's more of a dog just one place better off than elsewhere a lion year a welcome with a bit of support a couple. well in england on saturday champions manchester city host a bogey side sunderland aiming to avoid a repeat of last season scare the first of six top flight matches on saturday when the last campaign roberto mancini's side dropped four points against a blank canvas and while i've been saying since city came from three one down at home with five minutes to play before salvaging a point however sunderland is still one of only three sides to avoid a defeat at city in the premier league in almost two years and cheney is away or playing on a saturday lunchtime after a champions league week is never easy. and there. if that's the game.
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but from this game there is a connection i think that this point in tripoli would be important in this group last point that with sunderland when we were three minutes to go and after if we really got eyes in the end we call it was an important point in the league in that we need to remember that a game is important that we do two points also if we will be a tough game. leaders chelsea host of knowledge signed to win so far swanzy welcome also pictures reading and west brom welcome wrong bottom q.p.r. second boys everton go to nearby wigan and west ham. the late local london dami. well in spain on sunday barcelona real madrid in classico only sixteen games gone
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differently the champions ryall trail leaders and rivals possible white points going on messi has scored ten goals overall so far for barcelona on all the lead going against under a new manager tito vilanova all awkward pause. when the last four games including a whole one wrong elias and a champions league christan are now though managed second hand trick in a week to take his goal tally to twelve goals so boss midfielder have a hand that isn't getting complacent. independent them and if the difference between us in terms of points doesn't matter and if you can help them with it we have played closer cause when we had a few points and in the end to didn't matter last year we were two to favorites but close to home but we also know that now we're eight points above rail and it works in our favor and gives us confidence and if we will be eleven points ahead of them
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. sean morrison got his first k.j. on goal to hand spartak moscow a free to overtime win over seven. in the russian capital going to go to opening the scoring response i go early in the first period two goals in two minutes so set a style take the lead the side split in two one in front but in this as your other john that is unsafe. however under the shower for the summer shots and the game into overtime. i'm sorry go ahead former n.h.l. sean morris and getting it to the spot are going to be a second with an eight eleventh in the western conference so the star they find themselves in eighth place. those who were in the cage held the number rigo also needed overtime to enter two one win over the jazz and martin's concert goal while in the far you go middle of the game winning hand shriek of a good liar and a five to win in the. homes of all who would now wear your league runners up
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and russian champion san scum preparing for the new basketball season with a roster that's undergone a number of changes and a new head coach taught him a scene and all t's are going to go there and tells more about the arguments ins and outs over the summer. this class most successful coach of recent times a tour in messina is back in the russian capital after three years of absence during this period the team's dominance domestically has continued in a similar trajectory with cisco within every league title. however in the euro league things weren't as good as in two thousand and six and again two years later when the muscovites led by the tail in coach became champions of the continent they were just seconds away from their seventh ground last year with viewers because lois was in charge but led to victory sleeping through their limp in his hands despite that most messina called the team the best in europe last season almost if they were the best team because the results through the year proved that they were
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i would say i'm not afraid to use the word don't mean anything. but fortunately doing this in the championship is assigned with a single game and maybe just one single game he can say prevent you from receiving a trophy through his or. much water has gone under the bridge to the previous season however not only the captain of the boat has lost us has abandoned ship but also talisman and regular lenka gordon and alex a shred have left a big hole which need to be filled as a result the plethora of new players were introduced to the fans the american trio of aaron jackson sony whims and jew nicholas along with subzero airsick of a dimmer maker called up to hopefully to scott to new heights. this summer because i mean it's a great organization you know all the way from the organization to the coaching
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staff to the players you know obviously just to compete at the highest level every year and their ambitions are always you know to make the final four into one year early so as well as all the other competitions that we play and so you know it's i consider it a great honor to play for a club like this and. just try to win. and the team has already won if you trough this pre-season silverware but still still we're the first leagues called come in from germany well the most recent one the alexander gomez kick up was claimed at the weekend but the club's ultimate goal is to call to europe once again and with all the new faces involved it would surely be mischievous biggest chimes. doing their job against thirty more school. but finish with tennis and second seed money a shot will play local storm arlene the semifinals of china open. shop on marches on after her german opponent and really care about retired six months free love
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right foot injury the next stop of a french open champion is former rolling down also in mali since it was number free admission of a van sciver also in straight sets six four six two in the chinese becomes a final singles player to qualify for the season ending championship in istanbul later this month i. top seed for two hours i think i need to just fifty five minutes dispose of around me not a problem be a switzerland six two six lob the score ensure france when i'm bottle leave from to the next round of state colace want to spend six love to six six for. the men's side of the law states was the end of the road for mccall usually has been seeded russian and crashing out of third seed woolford song of the french when i was never really frightened as he wrapped up a six three six two victory in just over an hour. well the top see an australian open champion of my jaw coverage is also very special and doesn't he says as he
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flashed. his even in between the legs shorts couldn't help stream six one six to the page next up the joke of each his birthday boy flora meyer of germany who's twenty nine it's really. well in japan dmitri to sort of was denied a shot at his first target of a season the russian qualified bowing out of the tokyo open quarter finals at the hands of marcus on the artists agrees. to complete a comprehensive sixty six for victory will play a local hopeful. forty in the last four. but also sports for more coming up a little later it's a change of party the headlines are next on this short break. my parents really truly honestly believe that what had happened was as
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