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this one was about the the futility of the of the deaths in the last few days and the utter imbecile lying ministers who come before us and made it uses for continuing the war there's only one reason why the war is to win and that is to protect the reputations of politicians our soldiers of the as human shields for ministers reputations what they're trying to do is to keep a war going on to the best moment that will reflect on the reputation of politicians so we do the same position the end of us will war when it was said that this war is being prolonged by those that have the power to end it canada that brought their troops home two years ago so the netherlands french new zealanders are coming out early absolutely no reason why you shouldn't bring our troops home
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now the only reasons that we tied in with the politics of the united states we don't independent state we have to remind ourselves that we can take our own decisions and what we're going to see in the future is deepening trouble they'll be more slaughter because of this whole of this fictitious fictitious aims of the war was seen to collapse happening now there is no possibility that we can train the afghan people and army and police the poor to fight their own people will kill brother afghans for for a corrupt election read election rigging dupré the president or to defend the interests of a foreign country it can't happen you say that ministers are keeping soldiers in afghanistan to protect their own reputation but how does the deaths of more cell.
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just protect anyone's reputation the official attitude is we must protect reputations against our previous mistakes and end the war so that history will judge the politicians made the right decisions in fact we've been making the wrong decisions for many years you maintain that what britain is doing is arming and training its future enemies and i suppose there's a historical precedent for that there is a very powerful precedent that the americans trained and armed the mujahideen and the mujahideen are the worst government that afghanistan is hand in one hundred years the taliban were a great reforming improvement to the mujahideen but we've done this in the past and we are going to do it again there is no way that a taliban army or police are going to risk their lives kill their brother afghans in the service of a foreign country when we've gone or in the service of
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a corrupt president they going back to their tribal loyalties the backs. and the passions will be divided as they always have been divided and the likelihood is that they will be disorder when we leave we went through a civil war was going on the country was bitterly divided. we believe after we've left a few years the situation will be very similar they'll bill be more civil war and it the likely future rulers will be the taliban what lessons then should have been learnt from both britain's own colonial past and the soviet union's experience in afghanistan in two thousand and one in strasberg a very a bubbly and member of the duma tapped me on the back and said you british i'm going into afghanistan and you captured it in a few days and saying that we russians did that and we were there for ten years we killed a million afghans we spend billions. rubles and we lost sixteen thousand of our own
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soldiers and when we came out we left a puppet government there but there were three hundred thousand. in the hills who eventually took over and he even said to me it will happen to you and he's absolutely precisely right we deluded ourselves we told ourselves fairy stories about what was going to happen we could change things and we couldn't there was a benign cause that the russians were taking up in afghanistan of taking people into boston live giving them a chance to improve materially i mean nothing really happened in the end in we went in decided we're going to get rid of the drugs trade we were ending corruption we were going to give women a better deal and nothing has changed corruption is exactly the same possibly as drugs trade today is is ninety percent of the drugs in britain come from
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afghanistan tony blair told her ninety percent twelve years later ninety percent of the drugs still come from afghanistan it is a different there is more of the cheaper of the street so more people corrupted in two thousand and one the afghanistan was the second worst place in the world for a woman to live no it's the second worst place in the war for we're going to live with the objectivity of the war was a hopeless we're utopian and we've we've wasted lives make huge sums of money and we end up in two or three years' time with the situation just as bad as the one. before we invaded and let's talk a bit about the logistics and message that pulling out now would send what about the soldiers who are serving in afghanistan at the moment those who have already served and the families of the soldiers who've died when pulling out now send a message that everything they've done has. been essentially for nothing but it's
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certainly a tragedy that those families must go through this trauma of realized that this was a war in which nothing has been achieved but sadly that they have to face that eventually. what is would be immoral and cruel is to tell other people the same lies and the more lives should be lost in order to comfort the bereaved or to comfort politicians who made the right decisions at the moment there's no conceivable reason why you shouldn't start telling the truth to people and say that there isn't this mythical threat. of terrorism in britain somehow ending by b b afghanistan if we say to the taliban why are you killing our soldiers when they say well we've killed all your soldiers we're coming over to newport and to cardiff and we're going to blow up the streets no interest in that
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the reason the taliban is a killing british soldiers is because we have the foreigners with the in for those with a foot of rain and we're occupying by force of arms their country it's this sacred religious duty to kill us if we're not there they don't kill us i mean to for the simple argument to understand so what you're saying is that pulling out of afghanistan right now wouldn't affect the security situation in the rest of the world nor not not in the slightest there's security threats to come from pakistan they come from the yemen big come from somalia i mean they come from bradford we have a an attack by al qaeda that was from english people brought up in england is it not there better to have the us as friends rather than enemies what kind of message would leaving now send to america which at the moment is that supposedly
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a trusted friend and ally we have a claim that we are an independent country and we spend billions on an independent nuclear weapon we should be an independent as far as afghanistan is concerned we've already seen countries that we greatly respect and my. are similar to themselves pulling out of the conflict quite rightly on rudely they've given huge contributions in blood and treasure we should take our own decision we know that at least eighty percent of the population are same for goodness sake bring our boys home by christmas or at message received no troops what about drain drones that are an enormous problem i believe in that they've altered the rules of war that for the first time ever there's an ability to kill with minute accuracy enemies in other countries borders don't exist there hideous problems in the future . a few days ago and eight at least eight innocent afghan army
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women in civilians were killed as collateral damage a slight error by a drone that's a problem in itself but the whole morality of warfare as the as drones are affected is an unwritten page nobody is rooted there are no rules for this but we're in we're in this position where we have the drones another the enemies have the drones and it's a totally unequal battle and i believe that the world has to think very seriously about the morality of using drones in warfare and the problem is is that the policies we've been following for so long in afghanistan and iraq is the belief that you can win hearts and minds with bombs and bullets you current and the battle of the day decades will be willing hearts and minds of making sure that we're building some trust in the world community to be destroyed by part of it by the
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belligerence and foolishness of our own military operations how do we then turn that around is there a political solution we try to build trust in between ourselves. try to convince the muslim community of the world who who instantly believe any fiction about western society who want to persecute them we've seen the riots that taken place because of a foolish piece of film but most of the muslims around the world are prepared to believe that because they've seen we have double standards we see that we're not being fair in the israeli palestine situation and that we've gone in and attacked muslims in in iraq and afghanistan so of course they don't trust us imagine the riots that we're seeing because of this film about the prophet mohammad obviously there's a large muslim population here at home do you fear that
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a section of it will be radicalized by what we're saying throughout north africa and the middle east is i'm sure that the great danger the world faces is that the roads are irrational they're based on nothing really there but the the myth is believed because opinion among muslim communities has been primed to believe that the west is against them and i'm afraid we dangerous situation the tinderbox could go up at any time and in part it's mainly. knighted by the foolishness of our military adventures in the last twenty years paul flynn thank you my pleasure. wealthy british style. is not on.
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danger and a piece of art. says exemption based. in making him from three. bombs and. on our team. more news today violence is once again flared up. and these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. china operations are the day. you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so horrifying you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm trying hard welcome to the big picture.
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the headlines on our border strikes in turkey fires at syria again in response to a mortar attack the turkish prime minister says will go to war if provoked. shelling on wednesday and retaliate for syrian mortar a bomb that killed five civilians. police fired tear gas and water cannons at anti government demonstrators in bahrain as people rally and activists and death in custody the city more like he has been cracking down on the shia position for some twenty months now. and it's a day of campaigning silence in venezuela as the country prepares to go to the
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presidential polls to see whether. to power up his opponent a young lawyer and staunch critic of the government is predicted to give him a close race to the ballot bowl. our time now for the glamorous she is next with your sporting fix. and i thank you for joining me for the sports update on this busy saturday and the headline. out of steam locomotive missed the chance to go joint top of the russian premier league after losing one nil to compound. while red bull flying sebastian vettel dominates qualifying for pole position of the season for sunday's japanese promptly. to tussle maria sharapova ease this past and not lead to such a. final again while the one victoria azarenka. let's kick off with
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football well look i want to go have missed the chance to join jee at the top of the russian premier league after losing one. it was rumania strike that day all the blue poor who finally broke the deadlock with twenty minutes to go and just. fighting the business also losing fiedler to a second yellow in the final minutes of beauty cousin john side hung on for a victory to go fast stay for a while there's a basement battle currently underway as one part of volga taking on second bottom although we are a long year off and clearly a set off in the late game. while in the first of six top flight matches in england this saturday champions manchester city are hosting bogey side sunderland aiming to avoid a repeat of last season's scare the words of mancini side dropped four points against the black caps last term and sunderland are still one of the big three sizes to have a boy these elite defeat on city in almost two years though the score at the end he had is currently one nil is half time alexander come out of with a pinpoint for
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a take after five minutes later only this chelsea has with us now richards swanzy welcome also victory last reading on the west from welcome rock bottom keep dion second place everson go to nearby weekend and west ham host arsenal for a late london dollar base. while in spain on sunday barcelona host railway trade in el classico with only six league games going defending champions way out trail leaders and arch rivals basso by eight points you know messi has scored ten goals overall so far of our saliva who want all their league games under a new manager to villanova while after a poor start here's a marina is right i have won the last four games including a four one run but i act in the champions league where christiane are now the reticule second hattrick of the week to take his goal tally to twelve so fascinates others have a hand there's isn't getting complacent. in the beneath them and if you difference between us in terms of points and if you can help we have played classical when we
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had more points and fewer points and indian to do the math lost. the close to home but we also know that now we are eight points above and it works in our favor and gives us confidence and if we will be eleven points ahead of them. now on to formula one and two time defending champion sebastian vettel has claimed his fourth pole position of the season as the red bull team dominated qualifying for sunday's crunch japanese grand prix the twenty five year old was the only driver to record a lap time of under one minute thirty one seconds this is include track of ethel's australian team mate mark webber will also start from the front row after coming second appearance jenson button was third fastest on the day to make it was great trying to steer box the penalty savile's coming week up by a sheet of third roman growth short of lotus will complete second row ferrari's fernando alonso will start sixth as the spine of it to defend his twenty ninth
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overall really had a battle however the german knows he can bridge that gap. and we couldn't really ask for more the car felt fantastic from the start i think we didn't have the best start to the week and yes for the morning i wasn't very happy but then we seem to get better every time we go out so we're very pleased with the result very happy the car feels fantastic around here and i was able to pick up a little bit overnight so all in all i think it came together nicely and obviously we hope for a very good race tomorrow. one to ten is now world number two maria sharapova is set to face top ranked vittorio as our anchor in the final of the china open after both went through in straight sets up a very came back from three one down in the first set against local start in our league and then the french open champion never looked back securing a six four six love win as our guest shrugged off a slow start to our class marion bartoli six four six two and the russian will be hoping to extend her good form again after beating the russian in the last five
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hardcore battles between the two. while top seed novak djokovic will play at number three seed joe will plead stronger in the men's final to serve it had class germany's florian via in straight sets and french and saunders secured the spot in the disc. after his spanish opponent let the honor lopez retired in the second set to a left wrist injury. while in japan while the us three andy murray smashed his racquets during an epic defeat at the hands of big serving milosz rail nitch the olympic and u.s. open champion lost a game and his temper in the second set when she went on so when however bring on each prevailed in the decider as the canadian blasted a total of thirteen aces and sealed the deal with another powerful so mari returned it long to go crashing out six three six seven seven six for most three hours on course in the final moments will play
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a local favorite came as she corry marcus by doc is six two six two. sometimes it happens you don't start particular well put a perv for a service game and they go on someone with his game style it gives them confidence and it can be hard to get back in the. idea when i started the match that. now we're going to i saw defenseman sharon morrison trying to spur scott in the k h l to how to spot a street say i wish i went over sevastopol here in moscow they go to jail that cough opened a spot at early in the first period however in the second two goals in two minutes to set the style take the lead and he has enough xander he has no say weapon when you target. however in the set and but the beast this wrist shot to send the guy trying to time. the home side of the film and a shy man morrison sending out this bottle this very night that eleven western
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conference or seven stars are. fun is about asking for what you really want is that tesco must go are preparing for the new season with a much changed roster on the new head coach it's already messina lets him go yes has more on the army's new recruits. his cust most successful coach of recent times a tour in messina is back in the russian capital after three years of absence during this period the team's dominance domestically has continued in a similar trajectory with cisco with in every league title on offer however in the euro league things weren't as good as in two thousand and six and again two years later when the muscovites led by the tail in coach became champions of the continent they were just seconds away from their seventh ground last year with us because those guys in charge but let the victory sleep into the imperatives hands despite that most messina called the team the best in europe last season obviously
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they were the best team because the results through the year proved that they were i would say i'm not afraid to use the word only a little. unfortunate in disney world but the championship is assigned with a single game and maybe just one single game the can say prevent you from receiving a trophy to deserve. much water has gone under the bridge to the previous season however not only the captain of the boat because lost cause has abandoned ship but also talisman and draycott olenka gordon and alex a shred have left a big hole which need to be filled as a result the plethora of new players were introduced to defense the american trio of aaron jackson so many women. get on with their six and. called up to hopefully to scott to new heights. this summer because i mean it's a great organization you know all the way from the organization to the coaching staff
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to the players you know obviously just to compete at the highest level every year in their ambitions are always you know to make the final four into one year so as well as all the other competitions that we play and so you know it's i consider it a great honor to play for a club like this and just try to win. and the team has already won a future office for susan silverware but still still we're the first leaks cup coming from germany well the most recent one the alexander gorman ski club was claimed at the weekend but the club's ultimate goal is to conquer europe once again and with all the new faces involved it would surely be missing this biggest chimes . are just going to party. and that's all the sport is this ball is a. my
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