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it's for ministers' reputations the danger to our soldiers is being prolonged by those on that binge who have the power to stop it other countries over remove soldiers from this dangerous area where they're not doing what we're doing which is arming and training our future and to be used to this very similar to the end of the first world war when it was said the politicians lawyers and soldiers died and the reality was as it is now that our brave soldier lives are being led by ministerial donkey's paul flynn after that you were disciplined by the speaker and barred from parliament for five days presumably you knew that what happened that you thought it was worth it oh it's very worthwhile it's a very rare event and the result has been that my words have been seen almost all over the world as prison extraordinary effect and i believe that this may well be a turning point in public opinion i believe eighty percent of public opinion would
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like to see the boys home by christmas and the government in this sense they're ignoring that you've been a longstanding critic of the war in afghanistan so what brought on this specific out best this one was about the the futility of the of the deaths in the last few days and the utter imbecile lying ministers who come before us and made it excuses for continuing the war there's only one reason why the war. and that is to protect the reputations of politicians soldiers of the as human shields for ministers who reputations what they're trying to do is to keep a war going on to the best moment that would reflect on the reputation of politicians absolutely no reason why you shouldn't. bring our troops home now the only reasons
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that we're tied in with the politics of the united states we don't independent state we have to remind ourselves that we can take only decisions and what we're going to see in the future is deepening trouble they'll be more slaughter because this whole of this fictitious fictitious aims of the war was seen to collapse happening now there is no possibility that we can train the afghan people and army and police the poor to fight their own people will kill brother afghans for for a corrupt election read election rigging dupré the president or to defend the interests of a foreign country it can't happen you maintain that what britain is doing is arming and training its enemies and i suppose there's a historical precedent for that there is
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a very powerful precedent that the americans trained and armed the mujahideen and the mujahideen are the worst government the afghanis are as hanged in one hundred years the taliban were grateful forming improvement to madrid and we've done this in the past and we are going to do it again. is no way that a taliban army or police are going to risk their lives kill their brother afghans in the service of a foreign country when we've gone or in the service of a corrupt president they going back to their tribal loyalties the. passions will be divided as they always have been divided and the likelihood is that there will be disorder where really we went through a civil war was going on the country is basically divided when after we leave after we've left a few years the situation. would be very similar bill bill be more civil war and it
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the likely future rulers would be the taliban what lessons then should have been learnt from both britain's own colonial past and the saving experience in afghanistan in two thousand and one in strasburg a very a bali and member of the duma tapped me on the back and said you british i'm going into afghanistan and you captured it in a few days and saying that we russians did that and we were there for ten years we killed a million afghans we spend billions of rubles and we lost sixteen thousand of our own soldiers and when we came out we left a puppet government there but there were three hundred thousand. in the hills who eventually took over and he only said to me it will happen to you and he's absolutely precisely right we deluded ourselves we told ourselves fairy stories about what was going to happen we could change things and we couldn't there was
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a benign cause that the russians were taking up in afghanistan of taking people into bodden life giving them a chance to improve materially i mean nothing really happened in the end in we went in decided we couldn't get rid of the drugs trade we were ending corruption we were going to give women a better deal and nothing has changed is corruption is exactly the same possibly as drugs trade today is is ninety percent of the drugs in britain come from afghanistan tony blair told the house ninety percent twelve years later ninety percent of the drugs still come from afghanistan it is a different there is more of the cheaper of the street so more people corrupted in two thousand and one afghanistan was the second worst place in the world for a woman to live no it's the second worst place in the war before we're going to live. the object of the war was
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a hopeless were utopian and we've we've wasted lives in the huge sums of money and we end up in two or three years' time with a situation just as bad as the one. before we invaded and let's talk a bit about the logistics and message that pulling out now would send what about the soldiers who are serving in afghanistan at the moment those who have already served and the families of the soldiers who've died when pulling out now send a message that everything they've done has been essentially for nothing it's certainly a tragedy that those families must go through this trauma of realized that this was a war in which nothing has been achieved but sadly that they have to face that eventually what it would be immoral and cruel is to tell other people the same lies and the people more lives should be lost in order to comfort
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the bereaved or to comfort politicians and be made the right decisions at the moment there's no conceivable reason you shouldn't start telling the truth to people and say that there isn't this mythical threat. of terrorism in britain somehow ending by being the afghanistan if we say to the taliban why are you killing our soldiers when they say well when we've killed all your soldiers we're coming over to newport and to cardiff and latin are we going to blow up the streets no interest in that the reason the taliban is a killing british soldiers is because we are the foreigners with the in for little's with the for the rainy and we're occupying by force of arms their country it's this sacred religious judy to kill us if we're not there they don't kill us i mean to fit the simple argument to understand. what you're saying is that pulling
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out of afghanistan right now wouldn't affect the security situation in the rest of the world nor not not in the slightest there are security threats they come from pakistan they come from the yemen they come from somalia i mean they come from bradford we have an. attack by al qaeda that was from english people brought up in england is it not there better to have the us as friends rather than enemies what kind of message would leaving now send to america which at the moment is supposedly a trusted friend and ally we have a claim that we are an independent country and we spend billions on an independent nuclear weapon we should be an independent as far as afghanistan is concerned we've already seen countries that we greatly respect and admire similar themselves pulling out of the conflict quite rightly on rudely they've given huge contributions in blood and treasure we should take our own decision we know that at
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least eighty percent of the population are same for goodness sake bring our boys home by christmas pull flint thank you my pleasure. trimmings in this tree even for specialists how a voice can produce several sounds at once but we didn't use the art of throat singing comes naturally picked up like a language. a language of communicating with nature it said that's where throat singing originates from really. believes not only animals but also all surrounding objects
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like reverse forests and even stones of souls and by imitating the sounds they believe assumes to capture the power of nature. the. there are special instruments that accompany the singing guinea says there is even a legend about his instrument a gill it says once there lived a poor shefford who had the best horse that won every competition but jealous people killed it on the horse was revived as an instrument. or was it of some pitiful is because of the spirit of the horse came to his dream and said make an instrument from the tree the sounding board from the leather of my face the strings . and to remember me make an engraving of my head of the instrument he did so i called the instrument again which means come back and this melody on these human is
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called. the. two flies one of the most famous groups in the republic their next goal is to tour paroled they say for you are a peon since difficult to pick up and sing so i ask them to teach me r.c. if i can do it chill you chair lift up to work. shero you shared their order that was sure to cancel up to and was you think gang are all. the but now it is only a movie part of the song and not the actual throat singing which i wouldn't even dare try to repeat. so maybe you have to be born here to be able to sing like the. yes i thought so until i met small she looks like
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a deveny and i don't even speak their language but she is from japan. most sense to modern mind from two hundred years ago until be here she's not planning a professional singing career but she keeps practicing just because it's become part of her nature. clearly. their show. was about to you. but the resident never profited from the. notion of coming all the signature there and you look up and there's one track and i knew he alpha beta gamma he was always
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the fine now trying to treat he's let me know what's going on so you can pinpoint. right now. dog shows become income mortal danger. art. director. pretty. art my parents really truly honestly believe that what had happened was as a result of my father's exposure to agent orange i was born with multiple problems . i was missing my leg and my fingers and my big toe on my right foot i use my hands a lot in my artwork i find myself drawing my hands quite a bit to me for my hands you know just as if anyone would. but they do tell a story they tell us story of. oxygen. borders
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straw exerted turkey fryers a syrian again in response to mortar attack as turkish prime minister received but . says it will go to war if ankara began its shelling of wednesday in to tell you both during the war to bomb shelters by securing. the return of the republican crowds really appalled when you see an independent so frustrated with words and calling for the thousand years staged to make its comeback. and hundreds demand an end to u.s. drone attacks in pakistan where the true day monch wrong to enter the heart of the strike zone the convoy which is travelling from islamabad to solve the world's
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ari's don is being led by cricket pleasant imran khan has since become an opposition politician. so are those with the latest action from the world of sports. and i welcome to the sports and these are the headlines. out of steam locomotive and missed the chance to go joint top of the russian premier league off an easy one new attempt to cuba. while red bull flying sebastian vettel dominates qualifying to three inches for full position of the season to sunday's japanese chrome pretty. top two tussle reassure up of the easiest part to not lead to set up a china final against world number one turiaf bizarre encounter. but let's kick off
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with football where love to watch is moscow have missed the chance to join us at the top of the russian premier league after losing one military band. went out of his way to keep his side's goal intact but the coalition just failed to stop what turned out to be the only goal with the game as a mark romania strike that they will be able couldn't reach him to the far post with twenty minutes left and that's despite the visitors newsy are trying feed it to a second yellow card in the final minutes recursions young side hung on to defeat his former club to stay for a walk a ban or up to fifty. one in days basement back to second bottom or debut move to within a point of safety after winning two nil at rock bottom vulgar after eleven minutes a penalty by michonne put the visitors in front but ten minutes before the break so that up have a chance to equalise get sky the ball from the penalty spot and coach says he'll
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penalize the striker who was supposed to step up while a last minute free kick from kidd open gave more davey of the two no victory and left vulgar four points adrift. while in the late game really i set off twice came from behind to make sure the spoils were shared. to tell you that i don't like or scored in each half of the home side joint top of the score as this one goes in at the gate but the brazilians third brace of the season was cancelled out as one. could not tell if you want to stay because it is a point move a line above the number into twelve north korea a ninth time champion state. over in england chelsea have gone four points clear at the top of the premier league after coming back from a goal down to win four one at home to now second bottom norrish the blues rallied from grant but not with first top strikes from two nando torres. isn't as out before as late branislav ivanovic for everton twice came from behind to draw two
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two what we're going to space west brom are fourth after beating rock bottom q.p.r. three to arsenal came from behind to win three wanted west ham to go fifth most ones he came from two goals down to draw to too much help to reading and champions manchester city remains second after a three no lunchtime win over sunderland ending the visitors and even record. we will be superior to. i would have very little complete complete obviously as with force. we had possession of the ball we give it away too easily. could have been further trouble before the. for me my spain royal madrid is a merino expect the world to stop and watch his side play at league leaders and aunt rivals barcelona in sunday's classico champions way out a sixth in the league and eight points behind the castle on johns with just six games go on in the new season but marino feels the pressure is on both sides to put
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up a good show. the old stoke. everybody wants a big match. of the responsibility. to give them. so. but some of them other than. the referees do that it was most of the. well may want it was a losing debut for you ventus and italy strike up by the sounds or del piero in the a league as the thirty seven year old who side sydney f.c. lost to know a new zealand side when two phoenix new signed belgian striker it's a high as offense gave the hosts the lead right before the break before teenager in the second to die to score a cracking heads every fifteen minutes to go to make it to no. hero failed to open his tally down despite a couple of shots on target in d.c.
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wins capital. now to formula one and two time defending champion sebastian vettel has claimed his fourth pole position of the season as the red bull team dominated qualifying for sunday's crunch japanese grown prix the twenty five year old was the only driver to record a lap time of under one minute thirty one seconds and this isn't the track that was a strain to me mark webber also stopped from the front row after coming in second but aaron's jenson button was fastest on the day but the britain was demoted to a spot on the grid of to changing gearbox well the penalty moves. into third while rome grows short. of lotus will complete the second row ferrari's fernando alonso will start sixth as the spine of it to defend his twenty nine point overall the head of vettel however the german believes he can bridge that gap. you couldn't really ask for more the car felt fantastic from the start i think we didn't have the best start to the week and your for the morning i wasn't very happy but then we
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seem to get better every time we go out so we're very pleased with the result very happy the car feels fantastic around here and i was able to pick up a little bit overnight so all in all i think it came together nicely and obviously we hope for a very good race tomorrow. now into tennis and world number two maria sharapova is set to face top ranked victoria azarenka in the final of the china open after both went through in straight sets her up from three one down in the first set against a local start. and then the french open champion never looked back securing a six four six love win. shrugged off a slow start to outlast marion bartoli six four six two and the belorussian will be hoping to extend take good form again after beating the russian in the last five hardcore battles between the two. while in the men's draw top seed novak djokovic will play a third seed joe will meet somewhere in the final to serve in our last job is
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probably at my in straight sets six one six four and secured a spot in the decider after his spanish opponent. retired in the second set due to a left wrist injury. at the top. of the good he's been cruising a couple retirements but you know it was important to me serving big saw it's open you know it's finals we'll see we'll see what happens when we were in japan while number three andy murray smashed his racquets during an epic defeat at the hands of big serving milosz rail nitch. brigand u.s. open champion lost a game and his tenth in the second set and she went on to win however a on each prevails in the decider as the canadian blasted a total of thirteen aces and sealed the deal with another now. mari returned it long ago crushing at six three six seven seven six after almost three hours on
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fourth final round it took a local favorite paying for it with pressure while passed by the artist six two six two. and finally to basketball where your only run is that says moscow are preparing for the season with a much changed roster and the new italian head coach authority messina legal younes has more on the always new recruits. discussed most successful coach of recent times the tour messina is back in the russian capital after three years of absence during this period the team's dominance domestically has continued in a similar trajectory with cisco within every league title on offer however in the euro league things weren't as good as in two thousand and six and again two years later when the muscovites led by the tail end coach became champions of the continent they were just seconds away from their seventh ground last year with us because those guys in charge that led the victorious leap into the imperatives hands by the most messina called the team the best in europe last season they were
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the best team because the results through the year. they were i would say i'm not afraid to use the word to mean. the fortunate in this league but the championship is assigned with a single game maybe just one single game can say prevent you from receiving a draw for interviews or. much water has gone under the bridge says the previous season however not only the captain of the boat has lost cause has abandoned ship but also talisman and regular jamal gordon and alex a shred have left a big hole which need to be filled. as a result the political new players were introduced to the fans the american trio of aaron jackson so many women. i've called up to hopefully to new heights. this summer because
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it's a great organization you know all the way from organization to the coaching staff to the players you know obviously. the highest level every year in their ambitions . to make the final four and to win the show as well as all the other competitions that we play and so you know. i consider a great honor to play for a club like this and just try to win. and the team has already won if you try this for susan silverware but still sealed the first call coming from germany well the most recent one the alexander goal missed because it was claimed at the weekend that the club's ultimate goal is to conquer europe once again and with the new faces involved it would surely be missing his biggest chimes which. are see more schools. and that's. what.
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