listen listening to those people not enough and talking about who we've been hearing that from hillary clinton we've been hearing this frustration from an american secretary of state she has sat why and how could that happen in the country we how to liberate i think here you're talking about libya she's been commenting on the killing of the u.s. ambassador in libya x. and libya and here i think the situation was always complicated and that's almost always the case that there is a lot of complexity and it's too easy to rush to the conclusion that the future will turn out the way you want it to and the libyan case in particular may involve only a minority of the vians the libyan government has also condemned the killings it's not true that libya has turned against the united states on the contrary libya has shown a determination on the part of many people both in the government and in the larger

population to try to get rid of violent armed conflict to punish and disarm those who killed the american ambassador so in fact there is a pretty strong turn against that sort of threat in libya what parts of its strategy should the u.s. and its western allies amend visibly those countries and other countries to avoid negative consequences in the future well the most important thing i think is to be very cautious about a forceful expects only a violent intervention i think that that's extraordinarily risky and so we should watch out for advocates of violent intervention secondly i think that it's important to recognize that in every one of these countries as in every country around the world there's more than one voice i think that the u.s. should be very concerned. to show that it respects muslim people should

show that it respects different nationalities the way they they showed the opposite well some people for example those who made this horrible film about the prophet which offers an insult to the prophet did not treat islam with respect and many in the region think that that somehow represents u.s. policy it doesn't represent u.s. policy but the u.s. needs to make it clear it's not easy to it's not easy to i don't think it's numbing people it's not and president obama and secretary clinton have both said this but i think that we need to recognize that just saying it once or twice isn't enough we have to make sure that this is the basis of the actions of international powers part of what that means is encouraging trade encouraging educational and other cultural linkages so that there is a growing relationship of trust and mutual understanding but it's not easy in countries where people have not had many opportunities where they find it hard to

trust not only international powers but their own government on many occasions where there is not the experience of easy friendly management of differences but differences often lead to violent conflict in those cases we have to be patient and part of the u.s. need in relationship to the middle east is for patients we shouldn't expect things to change overnight we think that it hasn't been a reaction from the time was that exactly but from a very special group of face to science or was that actually at all at all possible to this while those people they may have been i mean waiting for something like this it's never impossible to get rid of such possibilities it's never impossible to guarantee anything one hundred percent in international affairs or in terms of domestic peace is specially when there are people who. we want to have

a disruption i don't think that we are going to influence those people who want to violence and who are willing to use those tactics but i think we can have an influence on how much sympathy there is in the broader population by making sure that we don't back repressive regimes and become associated with them that we are appropriately respectful in matters of religion is this. the cause behind why the intervention supposed to brain democracy and freedom peace and prosperity brought instead filings and chaos actually the chaos that we see around us is structural it's built into the system that doesn't mean it always has to get out of hand or always produce violence but it means that we can't imagine that a way we can't imagine it will just go away if we get one perfect policy we have to resist most of the time the impulse to think that there are just good guys and bad

guys and if we intervene to help the good guys then everything will get better i think the proof of that story is libya it's something we have to listen to in relation to syria i've actually witnessed the beginning of the conflict in this country and just been there recently it is indeed very complicated what's going on in syria which is we've got to all this complexity of the situation on the syrian society particularly how you see the conflict played out there well i give you two different answers because on the one hand a prediction on the other hand a hope my prediction unfortunately is that the bad situation will get worse my hope is that before that happens there will be a way to stop the violence enough to get people talking to each other about a more peaceful transition so far the international community has shown that it is not clear it doesn't know what to do i don't think anyone is entirely on the right yes. it's not

a good idea to back over oppressive regime and to give it the hope i think false hope that it can stay in power and overcome that story but it's not a good idea to imagine that rebels are somehow all democrats all the brill all people who are going to simply work for a good future they have their own sectional interests their own personal grievances their own different kinds and opposition is very much divided stream league that's why i use the word factions it's divided there's not even a clear majority if the united states invades syria that's a disaster to so arms to one side or the other is to continue the conflict and right now both sides are getting arms on the international market very easily with different backers that means more people will be killed possibly the best action would be try to try to reduce the global availability of arms so here both of our countries are at fault what impact do western aid interventions have on the

societies in those countries in terms of mentality let's say how people detained change following those interventions i can see myself that i mean people i mean they've changed the process of rebuilding the peace building it is cultural change it's education it's economic relations and it's developing legitimate government every one of those is made harder. by war and conflict ok what about the western societies how did they change following all these events it's it's through massive popular pressure that the west is withdrawing from countries like iraq and afghanistan and we feel a new kind of war fatigue in that says ties to its two thousand and one and the attacks of that you and your of september are in a way a symbol for it they are the only source but the anxiety about the middle east and

about islam has become an acute thing for many western countries it's shaped by different factors in europe there's an anxiety about immigration in the us it really is more tied to conflicts linked to the middle east and the sense of having been attacked in the homeland this has affected a large population and it's effected some people by making them hostile towards muslims it's affected other people by making them worried about the change in america and you're right to say america has changed america has adopted new security legislation that make it a less free country because we have more surveillance and we have that because people are worried about public security what will happen if there's another bombing so what's happened in the western countries is that the fear is more basic and so more people are making their choices based on fear.

and not as many people are making their choices based on hope or optimism about living together peacefully let's not talk about london school of economics and experience that they call themselves the bad chapter over this cold history but alice eve has had very special relations with the regime of colonel moammar gadhafi formally been leader and this pashley with his son safe on islam i've interviewed safe in tripoli and he's been talking a lot about how did this experience change him i think i guess it's been a mutual change so it's been all ok until one moment when the british government turned away from libyan leadership at that time and this exactly what happened with the school it south and something kind of apocalypse the here don't you agree with that i don't think there was a part hypocrisy i think we have to say something rather similar to what i said about countries that there were disagreements there was not just one side the

school has been faulted for receiving money from a foundation linked to saif al islam gadhafi the son of more american office there were objections there was an argument there were disagreements the school never had a whole position where it said all could off is regime ok or not ok we don't take positions on regimes in that way there was a complicated situation and it got extremely simplified in the way it was written about in the press so it's been completely independent in that case right that's a very strong statement it has been more independent than is sometimes suggested i think completely independent receives not only from the government i mean it hasn't been influenced by. the government's attitude government influence did not control the attitudes or what went on in the school choices were made in the school the school is influenced. that's in various ways by public opinion more

broadly by governments right but we try to maintain enough autonomy that we always protect that intellectual freedom so you side mistakes were made so you are now they had of london school of economics i'm sure you will do your best to avoid those mistakes in the future right now i'm sure i will find future mistakes to make i think that there is no leader of any institution of any size who doesn't make some mistakes so we should good luck with all those mistakes. thank you very much thank you with that. the sun rises over what seems like and lowest forest but here in the new directions crime hundred kilometers north of light of all storms as in much of the world it's disappearing at a catastrophic rate. mortgages

both illegal and those finding ways to outsmart the system filing down the forests of the region for them profit goes well beyond the future of our planet and the result could be an ecological crisis the world wildlife fund for nature makes regular trips to help local rangers do what little they can to stop the logging but it's not easy lager set up trucks making them hard to reach in an already rough terrain and have mastered ways to jump through legal loopholes this is a nature reserve we're only sanitary logging of disease trees is allowed according to law and not a single berry can be picked but loggers like this use their sanitary logging permit to cut down absolutely healthy trees and sell the profitable timber over the border in china we are on the hunt for illegal loggers and it's not going to be easy the forests in the forest and our chances are slim now for now we can stay in

our dreams but as soon as we find solace tracks we'll have to drop our wheels and get out silently in order not to scare the loggers off alexander someone in ca has been a ranger for over twenty five years he can spend weeks at a time tracking a single group of loggers easier to work when snow falls in autumn it's impossible to find human tracks and even transport tracks are hard to see after hours of driving we get sent in the right direction by word of mouth you can see that the ground is soft here which means that they've twelve's the tractor trails are very fresh which in fact means that we need to be quite. in order to not scare them off as we get closer. this team says they're legal but have no documents now xander can now call the police to take over his work here is done he's overwhelmingly outnumbered there are too few rangers working in the promote the region and the w w f says the government isn't doing enough to stop it i guess

the government now is they started city for more for all forest legislation so as soon as the polls and so on regards a new forest court and according to the oath every for us this is the guys in waltham in the in the forest through the still forest courts still doesn't work just. as no one tries to stop them in just five years the force will be gone they'll sell it all to china what will the people who live afterwards do. it's a question more and more people are aware of today climate change in the safety of our environment as a whole are being discussed around the world and perhaps it's those small steps that might be a start to people living in harmony with nature. and

take up here in greece with all protests began in athens before a visit by german chancellor merkel and a decision on the country's next bailout is tallman this as the i.m.f. expresses uncertainty over the euro zone's intensifying debt crisis. rock obama's presidential rival mitt romney calls for arming the syrian. media relations show imported crates of weapons are already in the hands of insurgents all this comes after six days of cross border shelling between syria and turkey. and the sheen locks horns with washington over a report that's recommends chinese companies are excluded from doing business in america due to fears of spying on the country although firms have responded saying

the u.s. is just afraid to compete on the open market. but we have one here in our team sports next with ron. hello and welcome of this is sport with labor i'm on call forever and this is what's coming up. three four victory in the alcohol should lead scott to a spectacular comeback win over their moscow rivals say it's got. the final touchdown the moscow patriots defeated scallops in the russian version of the super bowl. and injuries care rinaldo will travel with portugal ahead of friday's world cup qualifier with russia despite picking up a slight injury in sunday's el classico. and let's go straight to the ice now where

it was a busy monday in the kontinental hockey league with seven games on offer now before getting to the headliner featuring a loss out n.h.l. or spotted that suit and called show here are the results of the other matches in the early game it's a lot of monkeys of war scored three and answer goals at how more you get involved in syria take on shore and gallery any getting on the scoreboard and not one c.v.t. claims a narrow two one victory against tracks or a well out of the mobilise media the shootout to defeat makes a lower level because nets on the road look it's easier a slog defeated baris at home for two. so and now asked promised let's get to the cage shell battle between russia's arguably brightest stars bottled but soup and in the call shook his team's went head to head in moscow on monday nights and this time around it was cold chill cool stole the show with a hat trick with sky beating say sky in the army being rather of our venue on has more. just

a month ago european hockey fans could have only dreamed of witnessing a match up like this. joke versus. now it's a regular susan cake shell game the first army derby of the season saw forced to scale open the scoring with a russian magician that's not in his third cage shell gill and early in the second period when muscovites extended their lead alexander a dual found the men fell in front of the net with and now again fast and the home side of the fance man made it to nil. only fear would have to suspect of them because all should show was just about to begin not to go through them which from what we just lacks in drive in the beginning we were not focused enough just skating around making a lot of mistakes but we came out for the second period fired up there in spain and it paid off quickly devolve did what every captain is supposed to inspire his team

with the goal he won and scott geared up for an equaliser i was with plenty of goal scoring chances for the visitors to scout they'll manage to stay in the lead through the second period however scare us come back looked inevitable and just minutes into the filed period the mulch of scored is second to level matters to you all. and things got even worse for the hosts when devin delmon scored on a power play free to scare had mounted i can back scout could have even the score but alexander a dual of missed the net on a breakaway although in a culture that didn't go all the net in his third on the night seven minutes from time to set the final score of fourteen little for the fourth build a national monk but it was a good lesson for us. fortunately the season has just started and we have some time

to improve we've got huge potential and we know what we should do to fulfill it or some more important games are still ahead so we splinter action plans with many of the world's biggest stars know showcasing their outstanding skills indeed kontinental hockey league and a bit more now on r t moscow. meanwhile washington capitals captain addicks of educate who is currently playing for defending champions in a moscow due to the n.h.l. lockout believes the standard of competition in europe is stronger than across the atlantic i can see the game i can see the guys the skill players. have they have a great technique and i think. it's right now it's time to chill it's not working right now so kids children know it's a been through. hell ice now and so the football fields words been confirmed that

superstar. will travel with the rest of the portugal squad and head off friday's world cup qualifier with russia right here in moscow the real madrid forward picked up a shoulder injury in sunday's two all draw with barcelona at the no camp but after being examined by club doctors on monday he's been given the all clear to join up with the rest of the national squad a final decision on his fitness will be made to be closer to kick off of this whole process and of course you have one hundred percent records from their two matches so far in group f. . now moscow played host to the american football finals over the weekend for teams from across russia competed as at this four tries to increase its fledgling fan base within the biggest country on earth that richard been portrayed as more. it's a world away from the n.f.l. of the teams from moscow in chile and in school competing in the russian american football final this was their very own super bowl the sport is growing quickly

around the country and in just two years the number of teams competing has more than tripled. good for the ceiling of who's helped to coach a collegiate level in the states there's still room for improvements in drawing yeah it's more of a it should be more popular because it's like what we need to russia face in context for team sports. good looking guys play the game children looking for. american football receives very little exposure in russia there are hardly any games shown on cable well the rules and terminology a move an alien told us all sports funds are no russians in the n.f.l. or even in the collegiate system in the us which would certainly help to raise a sports profile however doubly a call for can see just changing in the not too distant future i guess what i'm really belief we got some players complaining about to cut much money and hope

lessons like allen and i have no dreams about but forget couple players from yellow right now and n.f.l. so that we can do it i really believe that some day yeah russian where have all the plays in russia and it has they receive no funding from the states so they have to finance over expenses them selves as well as holding down another job for only around five hundred players playing at the highest level within the country even still mark is one of them he took up his poll time to see it in films and to him there's nothing else he'd rather be doing with the gun it's a contact sport and it's a kind of game where he can let out only adrenaline on the field but it stays in the failed once and come off the pitch you know fully relax and friends again with a pounds. i love the sports my wife isn't always happy with me but this is my life . the final was eventually won by the most good patriots in the blank to be but should have been screwed to come from russia's ural mountains thirty five points to

twenty one and the crowd of around five hundred tons certainly had a fun times to go to mean of entertainment american football in russia is growing slowly but surely in popularity well it's never going to be able to challenge the likes of n.f.l. europe let alone the n.f.l. itself no less from a group of players playing out here is a great opportunity to play the sport but they're going to love over the years presumed wolf we don't see. elsewhere at the opi is it's a guy a kid that has won the chicago marathon in a course record so i'm forty five thousand runners from one hundred fifteen countries winds up to pound the streets of the windy city conditions were near perfect for the needs competitors with temperatures hovering around five degrees celsius last year's winter kenya's moses most was missing with an injury to better though and then a dominant display completing the course in that two hours four minutes and thirty eight seconds in the women's event russia's media show was aiming to become only

the second ever. having won the race for the last three years however she could only manage fourth behind eventually win or if the o.p.'s said it by their way to beat kenya's rita. and finally we've got some extreme but spectacular stuff for you to finish it's all about high octane engines and death defying stunts as new zealand's levies share would won the red bull x. fighters championship in sydney that he edged out the french rival. in the season finale and the frenchman made a mistake leading to that fall while new zealand they're sure would produce the flow of this wrong to win his first world sorts idle at the age of just twenty. sherwood sealed the victory in style as he came out on top in all five judging categories home rider joe she on winner of last year's events on cockatoo island completed the podium in sydney. and the update is less than

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