and in the larger population to try to get rid of violent armed conflict to punish and disarm those who killed the american ambassador so in fact there is a pretty strong turn against that sort of threat in libya what parts of its strategy should the u.s. and its western allies amend is of in those countries and other countries to avoid negative consequences in the future well the most important thing i think is to be very cautious about a forceful expects really a violent intervention i think that that's extraordinarily risky and so we should watch out for advocates of violence intervention secondly i think that it's important to recognize that in every one of these countries as in every country around the world there's more than one voice i think that the u.s. should be very concerned to show that it respects muslim people

show that it respects different nationalities the way they they showed the opposite well some people for example those who made this horrible film about the prophet which offers an insult to the prophet did not treat islam with respect and many in the region think that that somehow represents u.s. policy it doesn't represent u.s. policy but the u.s. needs to make it clear it's not easy to it's not easy to i don't think it's numbing people it's not and president obama and secretary clinton have both said this but i think that we need to recognize that just saying it once or twice isn't enough we have to make sure that this is the basis of the actions of international powers part of what that means is encouraging trade encouraging educational and other cultural linkages so that there is a growing relationship of trust and mutual understanding but it's not easy in countries where. people have not had many opportunities where they find it hard to

trust not only international powers but their own government on many occasions where there is not the experience of easy friendly management of differences but differences often lead to violent conflict in those cases we have to be patient and part of the u.s. need in relationship to the middle east is for patients we shouldn't expect things to change overnight we've seen that it hasn't been a reaction from the in time was that exact input from a very special group of face to science or was that actually at all possible to avoid this while those people they may have been i mean waiting for something like this it's never impossible to get rid of such possibilities it's never impossible to guarantee anything one hundred percent in international affairs or in terms of domestic peace is specially when there are people who want to have

a disruption i don't think that we are going to influence those people who want to violence and who are willing to use those tactics but i think we can have an influence on how much sympathy there is in the broader population by making sure that we don't back repressive regimes and become associated with them that we are appropriately respectful in matters of religion is this. the cause behind and why the intervention supposed to brain democracy and freedom peace and prosperity brought instead filings and chaos actually the chaos that we see around us is structural it's built into the system that doesn't mean it always has to get out of hand or always produce violence but it means that we can't imagine it a way we can't imagine it will just go away if we get one perfect policy we have to resist most of the time the impulse to think that there are just good. guys and bad

guys and if we intervene to help the good guys then everything will get better i think the proof of that story is libya it's something we have to listen to in relation to syria i've actually witnessed the beginning of the conflict in this country and just being there recently it is indeed very complicated what's going on in syria which is we've got to all this complexity of the situation on the syrian society particularly how you see the conflict play out that well i give you two different answers because on the one hand a prediction on the other hand a hope my prediction unfortunately is that the bad situation will get worse my hope is that before that happens there will be a way to stop the violence enough to get people talking to each other about a more peaceful transition so far the international community has shown that it is not clear it doesn't know what to do i don't think anyone is entirely on the right this it's not

a good idea to back over oppressive regime and to give it the hope i think false hope that it can stay in power and overcome that story but it's not a good idea to imagine that rebels are somehow all democrats all the brutal all people who are going to simply work for a good future as they have their own sectional interests their own personal grievances their own different kinds and opposition is very much divided streamlet that's why i use the word factions it's divided there's not even a clear majority if the united states invades syria that's a disaster to sell arms to one side or the other is to continue the conflict and right now both sides are getting arms on the international market very easily with different backers that means more people will be killed possibly the best action would be try to try to reduce the global availability of arms and here both of our countries are at fault what impact. do westland interventions have on the societies

in those countries in terms of mentality let's say how people change or could change following those interventions i can see myself that i mean people i mean they've changed the process of rebuilding of peace building it is cultural change it's education it's economic relations and it's developing legitimate government every one of those is made harder. by war and conflict ok what about the western societies how did they change full of all these events it's it's through massive popular pressure that the west is withdrawing from countries like iraq and afghanistan and we feel a kind of war fatigue in those societies two thousand and one and the attacks of that year of september eleventh are in a way a symbol for they are the only source but the anxiety about the middle east and

about islam has become an acute thing for many western countries it's shaped by different factors in europe there's an anxiety about immigration in the us it really is more tied to conflicts linked to the middle east and the sense of having been attacked in the homeland this has affected a large population and it's affected some people by making them hostile towards muslims it's affected other people by making them worried about the change in america and you're right to say america has changed america has adopted new security legislation that make it a less free country because we have more surveillance and we have that because people are worried about public security what will happen if there's another bombing so what's happened in the western countries is that the fear is more basic and so more people are making their choices based on fear.

and not as many people are making their choices based on hope or optimism about living together peacefully let's not talk about london school of economics and it's experience that they call themselves the bad chapter over this cold history that alice eve has had a very special relations with the regime of colonel moammar gadhafi formally been leader and this pashley with his son safe on islam i've interviewed safe in tripoli and he's been talking a lot about how did this experience change him i think i guess it's been a mutual change so it's been all ok until one moment when the british government turned away from libyan leadership at that time and this exactly what happened with the school it south and something kind of apocalypse the here don't you agree with that i don't think there was a part hypocrisy i think we have to say something rather similar to what i said about countries that there were disagreements there was not just one side the

school has been faulted for receiving money from a foundation linked to saif al islam gadhafi the son of more there could often there were objections there was an argument there were disagreements the school never had a whole position where it said oh could off is regime ok or not ok we don't take positions on regimes in that way there was a complicated situation and it got extremely simplified in the way it was written about in the press so it's been completely independent in that case right that's a very strong statement it has been more independent than is sometimes suggested i think completely independent receives not only from the government i mean it hasn't been influenced by. the government's attitude government influence did not control the attitudes or what went on in the school choices were made in the school the school is influenced. that's in various ways by public opinion more

broadly by governments but we try to maintain enough autonomy that we always protect the gentle actual freedom so you side mistakes with my you know they had of london school of economics i'm sure you will do your best to avoid those mistakes in the future right i'm sure i will find future mistakes to make i think that there is no leader of any institution of any size who doesn't make some mistakes so we should good luck with all those mistakes thank you very much thank you with us. the legacy no one should be proud. heaps of scrap metal littering pristine arctic landscape building stilton over their foundation pipes spewing black smoke over the snow covered peaks the traces of the soviet industrial activity on the spitzbergen

archipelago don't make a pretty picture if the guiding principle here is the worst the better locals like to tell the story that back in soviet times when norwegians were visiting barons word they don't want to express it in mainland. and how prosperous this settlement was well times have obviously a change when they saw it lags say it's still attracting the region tourists are barons word i've heard that cons much needed cash that's why when business bad they're ruining our goal is common as was uncovered here a few days ago instead of throwing it away the local administration decided to paint a venue and put it at variance work central square that in the nine hundred eighty s. there was a burgeoning mining community the soviet union was determined to maintain its own costs. are located halfway between north america europe and western. bergen archipelago is part of norway but the special status that allows other countries to

set up industrial bases here in the middle of the cold war it served as the use of sars westernmost outpost now it's one of the soviet union's last preserved relics. it is essentially a picture of what would have happened to the soviet union if it was cut off from any financial support for two decades it's a curious site for western tourists and i think it could be even more appealing for russian travelers to keep its presence on spitsbergen russia still maintaining a coal mine here but in terms of profit is far behind local shops so between méribel it is a big hit the defunct are incurred and still helps keep the money flowing. it's a rush but you can't. throw. your local administration is increasingly under pressure to bring the infrastructure up to more than standards these modernization efforts are not very popular with

tourists if you come into a very authentic place like. it should stay the way it is that would be my wish i mean that's the part of the let you know authentic tradition here. i should not i would not like to have it in a shiny condition to be on this time to change even for the better is not always good for business something that even a local band has become attuned to when they try to add morning russian songs to die repertoire the audience called all they wanted to hear it was a song comfortably familiar.

brighton. move soon from funds to parachute. stunts on t.v. dot com. this is all to straight to our breaking news story for you this hour russian authorities have evacuated an area around a military testing ground in central russia where munitions have detonated let's get the latest now from artie's pretty broad of a stunning by here what so the what if any on casualties and just how bad is the situation there according to authorities. well what we've seen is what appears to be quite a large explosion take place in this military weapons death toll around forty. away from the city over on book the local authorities there have said that there is no

risk to the local authority local population is posed by the say explosion at the munitions that detonated were conventional weapons no chemical nor nuclear weapons were involved in this explosion and there is no risk whatsoever to the the local population the emergencies ministry though has carried out some evacuations of people in the immediate vicinity we're also hearing that three properties close to the the center of the blaster were damaged by the explosion another defense ministry has already started an investigation into what caused this explosion they also issued a statement saying that none of their personnel were injured in this blast now in the immediate aftermath of the explosion we saw this well the one is very loud explosion saw a huge plume of smoke rising above the site there was swelled pretty much panic online on twitter and other online sources with people suggesting that military personnel had been injured and that some soldiers remained only counted for the

defense ministry saying that this simply isn't the case that all of its personnel are present and accounted for and fit and well but this isn't the first time that we've seen an incident like this take place in russia has been twenty search explosions all fires over the past three years including worn at this exact same facility just a few moments ago that resulted in one military personnel member being injured and having to receive hospital treatment as i say this isn't the case this time both the local government authorities and the military top brass saying that there is no risk to anybody in the region and it all military personnel are accounted for all right out there with the latest on this breaking news story thank you. for a more news to come on this to the top of the hour for now though is the sports.

thank you rory hello and welcome this is sports with me ramon calls for evan this is what's coming up. three four victory in the alcohol chick lead skull it's a spectacular comeback with a win over their moscow rival sascoc. the final touchdown moscow patriots defeats eleven scouts in the russian version of the super bowl. and an injury scare ronaldo will travel with portugal ahead of friday's world cup qualifier with russia despite picking up a slight injury in sunday's el classico and let's go straight to the ice now where it was a busy monday in the kontinental hockey league with seven games on offer now before getting to the headliner featuring a lockout n.h.l. are spoiled the soup and. here are the results all the other matches now in the early game going towards scored three unanswered goals at more you get a mild conservative on shore and cal all riley getting on the scoreboard and that

one c.v.t. claims a narrow two one victory against tractor while the mobilise needed a shootout to defeat miss a little no because nets on the road will cause the defeated baris at home for to. so now as promised let's get to the cage shall battle between russia's arguably brightest stars. and call chukkers teams when it's ahead in moscow on monday night this time around it was called children who stole the show with a hat trick with beating says in the army darby herbivores anyone has more. just a month you been hulk you could have only dreamed with you see and make you up like this. girl she's one of the old lets you know it's a regular season game. the first army dog b. of the season saw hosts to scale open the scoring with the russian magician that suits netting hysteric h.l.

gill and early in the second period in moscow wides extended their lead and sunder a duel following the men fell in front of the net with now then fast and the home side of the fence man made it to heel. only few would have suspected them because all should show was just about to begin is not the voters number two from what we just lacks in drive in the beginning we were not focused enough just getting around making a lot of mistakes but we came up through the second period fired up was a very nice man and it paid off quickly the ball jude did what every captain is supposed to inspire his team with the goal he won and scott geared up for an equaliser i would go scoring chances for the visitors task out they'll manage to stay in the lead through the second period while our stuff down back looks inevitable and just minutes into the final period the mulcher

sport is second to level matters to you all. and things got even worse for the house when getting delmon scored on a ball played his team staff had mounted a cam back so this god would have even the score but excel nor do i miss the net on breakaways all those in that quote you didn't call the net in his third on the night seven news from time you set the final score for the publisher the bills the national mom but it was a good lesson for us that fortunately the season is just starting and we have some time to improve and so we've got huge potential and we know what we should do to fulfill it sure there are some more important games are still ahead of bias cupboard so we splendors keep checking our action for hockey plans with many of the world's. if stores. equal didn't talk. about going to auntie. meanwhile washington capitals captain alex ovechkin who's

currently playing for defending champions the now moscow due to the n.h.l. lockout believes the standard of competition in europe is stronger than across the atlantic. i can see your level of the game i can see the guys the skill players. have they have great dignity and i think. it's right now it's time to chill it's not working right now so kids children know it's a bit of sleep ok all fake h.l. ice now and the football fields where it's been confirmed that superstar christiane our own knowledge though will travel with the rest of the portugal squad and head of friday's world cup qualifier with the russia right here in moscow the real madrid forward takes off a shoulder injury in sunday's two two draw with barcelona at the camp but after being examined by club doctors on monday he's been given the all clear to join up with the rest of the national squad

a final decision on his fitness when they close or to kick off or both russia and portugal have one hundred percent records from their matches so far in group f. . and find they moscow played host to the american football finals over the weekend for teens from across russia competed as the sport tries to increase its fledgling fan base within the biggest country on earth richard import they has more. it's a world away from the n.f.l. of the teams from moscow and juliane been schooled competing in the russian american football final this was their very own super bowl the sport is growing quickly around the country and in just two years the number of teams competing has moving tripled. good for the ceiling. has helped to coach at collegiate level in the states there's still room for improvements in drawing yeah it's more of a it's should be more popular because it's like what we need in russia face

a context for team sports. good looking guys play golf game nice little looking for . american football receives very little exposure in russia there are hardly any games shown on cable or while the rules and terminology a move an alien told us all schools finance or no russians in the n.f.l. or even in the collegiate system in the us which would certainly help to raise a school's profile however doubly a call can see just changing in the not too distant future i guess where i'm really belief we've got some players complaining about too much money and hope lessons like alan and i have no dean is involved but we got a couple players from yeah right now n.f.l. so we can do it i really believe that some day yeah rushing where all the plays in russia annexes they receive no funding from the states so they have to finance all their expenses themselves as well as holding down

a number job for only around five hundred players playing at the highest level within the country even still mark is one of them he took up his poll to see it in films for him there's nothing else he'd rather be doing with the gun it's a kind of school and it's a kind of game where he can let out only agendas on the field but he stays in the things the sec wants a couple of the big fuller likes and friends again with opponents. yeah i love the sport you know wife isn't always happy with me but this is my life. the final was eventually won by the mr patriots in the blank if you truly open standards you come from russia zero mind to my principal my feelings to twenty one in a crowded room five hundred pounds certainly had a contest to go to newday been detained. american football in russia is growing slowly but surely in popularity well it's never going to be able to challenge the likes of n.f.l. europe let alone the n.f.l. itself no less from a group of players playing out here is a great opportunity to play the sport that they're going to love over the years

presumably don't see. paul scott so we'll have another update in just under a couple of hours meanwhile you may get more at any time by visiting our youtube channel at r t sport news thanks for watching. more news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. giant corporation to rule the day. wealthy british style. is not on.

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