she has advanced legal foundations for media work in her country for many journalists free media helpline became an important protective tool against illegal persecution beata which says she wants people to understand the importance of quality journalism for the public well being and that is what she works on at her current position you know us. well it must be at which welcome to the show hi thank you very much for coming to us today well let's start with what everybody in the world is discussing today the innocence of muslims the reaction of the the rights of violence across the arab world cost caused by this movie well actually what's being discussed today in connection with this with this film and the outcome of this story is the freedom of press and information people say. that the film could have passed

practically unnoticed if the press if the media would have promoted i mean they've done a better job of promoting this film that than any promotion company so shall we call it a side effects of the dark side of the freedom of press or what else. be very careful with this kind of statement because i do not think the this is a problem of media spreading the news because there's their job to spread the news but you know i'm sorry i look talking about spreading the news of the violence but i am about promoting the film itself because google has the appearance of such you feel it's good news i mean i mean junk lying that appears every day exactly your. junk i mean the film is junk it's. the work of the thing you don't even you know you are only married so this is something that i don't see even

a metaphor for discussion but i think is you know it caused enormous turbulence is around the world innocent lives lost and all this side effects of this movie but then at the same time but we have is you know society is struggling to see how to handle these issues how to handle the issues that in a way are very sensitive to certain societies how to. avoid this kind of situation. in the future but at the same time not to suppress or restrict not just media freedom but free expression freedom of information so i think when it comes to dis we have to sync about our values we have to think about international. articles and conventions that are actually leading all the countries when it comes to freedom of information but i do not think as

a society is free will fix anything by blocking this kind of material because what are we going to do next day what we need to do is to to work more on internet literacy on education on bringing. more tolerance in our societies. because the violence. kind of reaction to this movie nor matter how bad it is is something that is absolutely unacceptable many pressure many to do so you the film of most of the should be banned that should be restricted should be banned from the internet and so on on the other hand other people say that we can't do that because this is oppress the diff we do that this is this is restricting the freedom of expression food freedom of free speech and information what do you believe personally and you're the person who is responsible for these sort of. of sensitive things that there is like

a thin red line between the freedom of speech but there should be a line that this freedom shouldn't cross i don't usually limited i don't really agree with you there is a very thin line between this and we have to be when i say we i'm talking about all of us internationally fighting for free expression not to mention journalists associations and you know your job or the job of other colleagues of yours. working and reporting about these events it's extremely important that this line is not crossed in a way that would you know turn our societies back to dark when i say back to dark is that we are afraid of everything and now we have the internet we have this medium that we are still calling new but it's not new anymore there to be are discussing the issues of how to block something that is not acceptable of course there are issues of national security of course there are issues and the legitimate

right of any government to suppress and to stop anything that would be wrong for for the societies but in a way i don't think we're blocking we will solve anything. well i have always i will in the soviet times. working now in terms of democratic russia i've always known that the difference between. journalism is that censorship is when somebody one choose your look go through your text before it's published and says no that won't do while. the absence of censorship is when you're free a journalist is free to so say whatever he thinks is right and if it appears to be wrong somebody says this is against them or you should you should be held responsible for that and take me to court but in the case of this muslim thing. well let me say that it should have shouldn't have appeared in the first place so

they should have be censorship would have been better do you agree no there i disagree because first thing i think it's impossible it is a lost battle who is going to track all this information who is going to be a censor companies google are they going to look at everything that is put on the website. and how can you know what exactly is going to steer such a problems as this particular more actually caused. you know issues that once again loss of lives is something that is violence as an effect of anything that is visible or that is written is unacceptable in twenty first century and we should work more again you know bringing people together and trying to explain because in a way it is explained as a biased against islam and all these things that are misleading manipulated and

simply not to draw the american democratic party is one of the world's most active champions for human rights so well there is the type of television debates they have in the american election campaign so do you think if if a candidate. burma is asked whether the life of the of his share of the fair is inadequate price for preserving freedom of speech or none censorship when you say yes that's the price we're ready to pay again well i can have this what i want half what do you what do you think would be these are so i don't know i don't know if you answer this question if you were asked this question if you were in a bad light i would never have connected with this because you know what lives can be you know lost i mean in a car accident so it you know simply you know the sensitivities of certain jobs including my job the jobs of diplomats or jobs of journalists in the field of course it happens but i don't think this story issues are connected in any way and

i don't i think it's a price i think it's absolutely unacceptable but what happened toward toward the u.s. diplomats in benghazi and unfortunate and i hope this will not repeat itself but what we cannot stop. unfortunately this is something that will happen again and it was happening before it is happening now and we will have to situation later on where. things certain groups or certain people do not like will be produced and we have to come to the terms to live with this and not top top top turn into all into violent groups because of what you're saying is very interesting you think that what. would cause the deaths of american citizens was not the film and the absence of censorship but the fact that people in certain parts of the world there were well in this specific is the muslims that

killed them they didn't understand such a thing as the absence of censorship and they thought that if such a thing filled appears in the united states this is the position of the american government of american officials should be held responsible for that is that true or not. no it's not nobody knows i mean what actually caused because there are reports and this is still under investigation of what exactly caused the violent attack and murder of american diplomats in benghazi in our film was there and it was there even before according to a news report and it stayed later on it's still available on the internet so this is very much politicized it's very sensitive but i do not see you know the huge problem when it comes to freedom of speech because i do not

see does movie as a matter of freedom of the media i don't see this is something that my office should be. interfering with but what i can say is that you know again the word produced if i can say so is doesn't have any value anything that should be protected. as a free speech issue but the problem with violent response to this is something that. we will still need to look to discuss and to find a way as to avoid these kind of situations i heard something that i think it's very good in relation to this issue and that is calls from. in certain countries like in egypt i'm a new mom called society for for peace and quiet to saying we are recognizing our religion how great is our religion we are not going to turn into violent. people.

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what about a spot of well we're not going just to remind my guest on the show here today is doing me out of reach and we see a representative on freedom of the media. many people today say they. think it which is one of them a champions for human rights and for freedom of speech throughout the world in many countries including this country including russia they. don't hesitate to to to do

abuse this same freedom of media freedom of speech in their own country and this is one of the double standards is it true does it really have been do agree or is it one of the arguments of those just to who envy the move who would i don't know i cannot talk on behalf of america but i can talk on behalf of the oil see the mandate that i have for me. no country is immune to criticism when it comes to issues of restriction and suppression of free speech including your own and i have fifty six on my agenda every day and no matter if we are talking about so-called all democracies and champions as you say of free speech or emerging democracies like part of the world where i come from. the problems are very present and of great concern of my office but also other colleagues working in this area

journalists are attacked. killed in so many parts of the world including boise region their equipment is confiscated on a daily basis their family and their friends they cannot sit in a bar with the source of their information. there are issues you're asking about united states i raised the issue of about problems in the united states on several occasions ten days ago about. way police handled occupy wall street and there were several journalists that were arrested and released afterwards. and there were issue of you know told journalists from russia today that i also publicly raised them and so so you know there are no trees that are immune to this i can see some scandinavian countries are real champions when it comes to free speech and there are the countries i would use as an example as

a leading example is that yes i mean always going to be with you know several were entries that i think you know really doing norway for example is good you know is really finland is good you know there are some countries that is showing that they are showing to other countries that it is possible it is possible to have you know fall. free expression possibilities and at the same time you know societies can we call it an example of the fact that it is possible to maintain order in a democratic country without trying to influence the media are going to go beyond this because when when a country in difficult government and democratic country tries to tries to somehow control the media it's not always because the person is just because they want to to control him to control him to keep the situations going or is under control is a fortunate not government doesn't want to control really dear you know i'm very realistic you know i'm not trying to promote utopian approach of free expression

but what i look at is a real example and cases of intimidation harassment of. your colleagues in your country and within fifty six participating states and there is almost no one single day when i do not have to raise my voice and have an intervention in relation to this not just you know safety of journalist issues but also the issues. so for very bad legislation introduction of more regulation and more restrictions in order to suppress political speech sometimes it is explained that it is done in order to protect society's national security issues terrorism child abuse but if you scratch some of the laws if you look underneath you really see is that it is nothing to do with these issues but it's more to suppress you know people critical voices deferring voices sometimes provocative sometime

tasteless but if we want to live in democracy we have to accept this well let's try to scratch it as you put it one of the most famous. names. in the media today julian assange she has recently addressed a panel of u.n. delegates criticizing president obama and calling on the u.s. to stop persecuting wiki leaks spotlights either the media has more. president obama was emotional at the united nations general assembly condemning the scandalous u.s. made film in the sense of muslims but insisting they can be no restrictions on freedom of speech given the power of faith in our lives and the passion the religious differences can inflict the strongest weapon against hateful speech is not repression it is more speech juliana sanj believes those are just two words at

least that was what he said a day after a bomber speech in the video addressed to un delegates he blamed the us president of nothing less than criminalizing freedom of speech president obama spoke out strongly in favor of the freedom of expression those in power he said have to resist the temptation to crack down on the third the time has run out. it is time for the us to cease its persecution of with events julian assange spoke at length about bradley manning the you were surprised that accused of supplying weaken leaks with hundreds of sensitive diplomatic and military cables the sons accused the u.s. government of detaining manning without charge and mistreating him a son just staining his hideout in the ecuadorian embassy in london fearing possible extradition to u.s. where both he and we do leaks have allegedly been declared enemies of the state by the military putting them in the same legal category as al qaeda and the taliban.

will i'm not trying to target cuba to make some judgments so whether they should be a responsible or where we were whatever the swedes have to say it's up to them but . are you ready to to somehow help mr assange or wiki leaks we somehow back him. give him a helping hand. well. to be honest with you this depends on the issue if his. right to free expression is you know be undermined and i do not think. there are issues as you mentioned at the beginning around the whole case that is extremely present in the media and i criticize harshly. some u.s.

politicians at the very beginning calling for the exit of mr r. sandwich i think it's wrong this is what he was afraid of for they actually went to the states and electrocuting or whatever well i don't look normal but i pointed out my fingers exactly are those of the politicians and i said this is unacceptable behavior but when it comes to his right to talk about. he has a platform where this television is a well to talk about this case he can talk talk to media any time. any platform so this is extremely important for me and the way i see these issues and i will of course continue to follow this in a way. to see if this is going to affect. in any way you know the cables that are put there which i think you know that what needs

to be done there is a need for editorial control of these cables and that was missing and this was very wrong and this was something that should be undermined the whole. project and the way certain media york times or the guardian. lamond and some other papers were handling these issues which i thought was very good because there was a dettori of judgment. that were legally or illegally obtained just like that war was fought for me very irresponsible because in a way it affected many people in some countries some of these people i met and i spoke to them but when it. mr. right to express his views in relation to the work he's doing as a whistleblower and the work that some other papers are doing obtaining does darter is not in any way under threat at this moment but look

a source of sonali and what. the whole problem around we can leak says is this. american military found in the middle east so it's truly the united states but it is in europe today and his problems are here and many people most of the people who we see outside i'll say the same. they think that he's being punished they try to punish him for doing what he thinks is right spreading information blowing the whistle so this is not right this is happening in europe this is inside your jurisdiction as it is it is happening but i don't know think you know the issues of him. being extradited to sweden and charges that are against him something that there is in any way connected to the punishment

in relation to the work he's doing i know maybe this is a you know a very direct approach to this but in my view i do not think he is under any you know threat in relation to talk to his life or anything. if he goes to sweden and face the judiciary that is known as one of the most independent in the world thank you thank you very much for being with us and just to remind you that i guess from the way it was today we are going to see you. read them and that's it for now from home if you want to have yourself spotlight where some of them are if you think i should be tomorrow truck you. will be back with more comments on what's going on in and out. russia until then am party and take a. wealthy

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