sions involved but they do you ask have sufficient cultural and social understanding of the region and on the societies of the countries they were intervening to discuss that not only that we are now joined by sociologist and they had of london school of economics craig thank you very much for being with us my pleasure so what do you think was that kind of miscalculation of the u.s. government people in the united states and in the west generally were enthusiastic and imagined it was all about you it was about facebook it was about tweets on twitter and it was about the definition of democracy to this common in the west but in fact it was also about strengthening different countries trying to establish of rights for a wide range of people not only those who are sympathetic to the west but for the whole population the americans who responded in the first place were indeed taken by surprise and when we say did they know we have to ask who we mean by they

did some experts working in parts of the universities in the united states or it teligent know more than some politicians of course i think that the politicians trying to understand this needed to listen to a wider range of american experts as well as to the world and the people in the region they have middle east and listening to those people not enough what parts of its strategy should the u.s. and its western allies amend is of in those countries and other countries to avoid negative consequences in the future well the most important thing i think is to be very cautious about a forceful expects really a violent intervention i think that that's extraordinarily risky and so we should watch out for advocates of violence intervention secondly i think that it's important to recognise that in every one of the. as countries as in every country

around the world there's more than one voice i think that the u.s. should be very concerned to show that it respects muslim people show that it respects different nationalities the way they they showed the opposite well some people for example those who made this horrible film about the prophet which offers an insult to the prophet did not treat islam with respect and many in the region think that that somehow represents u.s. policy it doesn't represent u.s. policy but the u.s. needs to make it clear we think that it hasn't been a reaction from the in time was getting started but from a very special group of face to science or was that actually at all possible to avoid this while those people they may have been waiting for something like this it's never impossible to get rid of such possibilities it's never impossible to

guarantee anything one hundred percent in international affairs or in terms of domestic peace is especially when there are people who want to have a disruption i don't think that we are going to influence those people who want to violence and who are willing to use those tactics but i think we can have an influence on how much sympathy there is in the broader population by making sure that we don't back repressive regimes and become associated with them that we are appropriately respectful in matters of religion is this. the cause behind why the intervention supposed to brain democracy and freedom peace and prosperity brought and it's tied filings and chaos actually the chaos that we see around us is structural it's built into the system that doesn't mean it always has to get out of hand or always produce violence but it means that we. can't

imagine it away we can't imagine it will just go away if we get one perfect policy we have to resist most of the time the impulse to think that there are just good guys and bad guys and if we intervene to help the good guys then everything will get better i think the proof of that story is libya it's something we have to listen to in relation to syria i've actually witnessed the beginning of the conflict in this country and just being there recently it is indeed very complicated what's going on in syria we've got to all this complexity of the situation on the syrian society particularly how you see the conflict play out that well i give you two different answers because on the one hand a prediction on the other hand a hope my prediction unfortunately is that the bad situation will get worse my hope is that before that happens there will be a way to stop the violence enough to get people talking to each other about a more peaceful transition so far the international community has shown that it is

not clear it doesn't know what to do i don't think anyone is entirely on the right this it's not a good idea to back over oppressive regime and to give it the hope i think false hope that it can stay in power and overcome the threats to it but it's not a good idea to imagine that rebels are somehow all democrats all the brawl all people who are going to simply work for a good future they have their own sectional interests their own personal grievances their own different kinds and opposition is very much divided streamlet that's why i use the word factions it's divided there's not even a clear majority if the united states invades syria that's a disaster to sell arms to one side or the other is to continue the conflict and right now both sides are getting arms on the international market very easily with different backers that means more people will be killed. possibly the best action

would be try to try to reduce the global availability of arms here both of our countries are at fault ok what about the western societies how did they change all these events it's it's through massive popular pressure that the west is withdrawing from countries like iraq and afghanistan and we feel a kind of war fatigue in the. two thousand and one and the attacks of that year of september eleventh are in a way a symbol for they are the only source but the anxiety about the middle east and about islam has become an acute thing for many western countries it's shaped by different factors in europe there's an anxiety about immigration in the us it really is more tied to conflicts linked to the middle east and the sense of having been attacked in the homeland this has affected a large population and it's effected some people by making them hostile towards

muslims it's affected other people by making them worried about the change in america and you're right to say america has changed america has adopted new security legislation that make it a less free country because we have more surveillance and we have that because people are worried about public security what will happen if there's another bombing so what's happened in the western countries is that the fear is more basic and so more people are making their choices based on fear. and not as many people are making their choices based on hope or optimism about living together peacefully let's not talk about london school of economics and it's experience that they call themselves the bad chap over this cold history but alice eve has had a very special relations with the regime of colonel moammar gadhafi formally been leader and dispassionately with his son safe on islam i've interviewed safe in

tripoli and he's been talking a lot about how did this experience change him i think i guess it's been a mutual change so it's been all ok until one moment when the british government turned away from libyan leadership at that time and this exactly what happened with the school it south and something kind of apocalypse the here don't you agree with that i don't think there was a part hypocrisy i think we have to say something rather similar to what i said about countries that there were disagreements there was not just one side the school has been faulted for receiving money from a foundation linked to saif al islam gadhafi the son of more american office there were objections there was an argument there were disagreements the school never had a whole position where it said all could off is regime ok or not ok we don't take positions on regimes in that way there was a complicated situation and extremely simplified in the way it was written about in

the press so it's been completely independent in that case right that's a very strong statement it has been more independent than is sometimes suggested i think completely independent receives not only from the government i mean it hasn't been influenced by. government's attitude government influence did not control the attitudes or what went on in the school choices were made in the school the school is influenced at in various ways by public opinion more broadly by governments right but we try to maintain enough autonomy that we always protect that intellectual freedom so you side mistakes were made you know now they had of london school of economics i'm sure you will do your best to avoid those mistakes in the future right now i'm sure i will find future mistakes to make i think that there is no leader of any institution of any size who doesn't make some mistakes so

we should good luck with all those mistakes. thank you very much thank you for that . in the march undergone d.'s men and women are walking one of the longest and probably the loneliest road in the world they reenacting march into exile made by thousands of czarist russia. if i was here three hundred years ago i may have dissipated my local lord i may have deserted from the army or a variety of other crimes the result was the same flight my fellow prisoners around me i've got a long and very cold walk ahead into exile in siberia it took them years to get there summers and winters entire years

a lot of people died on the way this group in the western siberian region of alms discovered they're living on the only surviving stretch of the original nine thousand kilometers of the siberian exiles track that's had no modern changes made to it is going to discover that he's descended from some of these exiles to. started to build a museum telling a story he and his re-enact is now receiving letters from all over the world to show them what it was like what the study is going is that it's scary to put the shackles on of course but it's interesting if we don't remember our history we will have no future. it's a monument to one of the risk rushes cruellest chapters of. the city served as the capital of anticommunist white russian leader admiral culture shock in the civil war from one thousand nine hundred to nine hundred ninety whilst in residence he lives here there's a study of the man like the maintenance of this building has remained a taboo right up until the present day or we still receive hate mail saying that he

hanged a lot of people and was famous for severe punishment it's all true but it was a time of civil war both sides who monstrously cruel it is sadly the theme of cruelty which links so much of history to the rest of russia's particularly of exile where they were an apple or a criminal. by horse. by tractor. by car for the road ends. as a carpenter. as a stove setter. as a farmer. as an assistant. as a friend. as a relative delivering post and delivering. wealthy

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with the war torn country. also holding a joint naval drills in the mediterranean. thank you very much for the welcome along the lines here is what's coming up. training session ahead of friday's crucial two thousand and fourteen world cup qualifier with portugal here in moscow. blades of glory. was spectacular come back when i would ever rival in the. touchdown takes a look at the sport of american football growing popularity here in russia. football chews day russia held their first training session. a crucial world cup

qualifier against portugal in moscow this is set to be found capello's biggest test so far. and his side go up against the group favorites both russia and portugal have won their two matches in qualification so far. is in the school. despite the fallout from his dispute with an eight after he wanted a bigger salary maxime good god is one of the new additions to the set up and the locomotive forward is expecting a tough test on friday night. clearly is that we need to prepare very well for the upcoming game it's going to be a massive test for the players it's a real all of you need to be called up to the national scene in the first time and i'm just really glad to be here. elsewhere the international cricket council says it's to launch an urgent investigation into claims of corruption indian t.v. says it has evidence that six umpires were willing to fix welty twenty games ahead

of the tournament the west indies won the event beating host sri lanka in sunday's final the sport's governing body has urged india t.v. to hand over any evidence that could help with the investigation the i.c.c. also reiterated the none of the umpires named in the allegations apparently from sri lanka pakistan and bangladesh were involved in any official games out the t twenty world cup. elsewhere the houston rockets are preparing for their first preseason much ahead of the new n.b.a. campaign the rockets missed the playoffs in the last season finishing ninth in the western conference they've made numerous changes to their roster in the off season including the introduction of superstar jeremy lin who says it's an exciting time for the franchise fee but definitely have a ways to go far beyond myself i think. you know we're learning the principles and it's one thing to learn and it's no really good to go off i want to same page so i'm as expected we're trying to learn and grow with each other and i

think defensively right now is somewhere we spent a lot of time working on the transition and things like that elsewhere to the k h l battle between arguably russia's brightest hockey stars pavel datsyuk and look his teams went head to head in moscow and it was culture coup stole the show with a hat trick with scarves in the army of a diana has more. just a month to go european hockey fans could have only dreamed of witnessing a match up like this. versus bottle that suit now it's a regular season game the first army derby of the season so horst. opened the scoring with the russian magician that's netting his deal and early in the second period the muscovites extended their lead alexander a dual found. in front of the net with us and the home side of the fance

man made it to. only field would have suspected the become all too show was just about to begin not to go through the number three but we just like seeing drive in the beginning we were not focused enough just skating around making a lot of mistakes but we came up through the second period fired up. and made a. weekly did what every captain is supposed to inspire his team with the deal he won and scar geared up for an equaliser i with plenty of goal scoring chances for the visitors to scout they all managed to stay in the lead through the second period however scare us time back looked inevitable and just minutes into the final period the multics court is second to level matters to you all. and things got even worse for the hosts when given delmon scored on

a power play three to scare had mounted a cam back. could have even the score but alexander a duo of missed the net on a breakaway although you didn't netting his third on the night seven minutes from time to set the final score of fourteen people for the bills the national month but it was a good lesson for us fortunately the season is just started and we have some time to improve we've got huge potential and we know what we should do to fulfill it are some more important games are still ahead for us so we splendor of action for hockey fans with many of the world's biggest stars now showcasing their outstanding skills in the continental hockey league robert gordon known r.t. moscow. elsewhere eight of the world's finest players are preparing for the inaugural world golf final in turkey the top two run plays in the world tiger woods and henri mcelroy were joined by u.s.

open when a web simpson and england's mini westward among others five point two million dollars is at stake with the winner taking home one and a half million before the week concludes with a pro on the event. by the by nightfall. do not deceive. or. go on for the. part of the program. it is the concern on the numbers that. make them feel life and make. sure those dollars are there in the. meanwhile in tennis russian mackell usually is out of the shanghai masters following a first round of fate at the hands of that to throw at skate the sub wrapped up a six three two six six four victory the more american johnnies ney's three of the fat around himself kevin anderson of south africa and chimichurri drugs into round three following a straight sets win over mocks

a present of slovakia often under the dust bowl so i needed two sacks against quantum on a card or two for us. to find a mosque i played host to the american football finals over the weekend for teams from across russia competed as the sport tries to increase its fledgling fund base in the country which have been portrayed as more. it's a world away from the n.f.l. of the teams from moscow and surely and in school competing in the russian american football final this was their very own super bowl the sport is growing quickly around the country and in just two years the number of teams competing has moved and tripled. good for the ceiling of who's helped to coach at collegiate level in the states but still room for improvements in drawing yeah it's more a case should be more popular because it's like what we need in russia a context for teams who are. good looking guys play the game you know

a little looking for. american football receives very little exposure in russia there are hardly any games shown on cable well the rules and terminology a move an alien told us all sports fans were no russians in the n.f.l. or even in the collegiate system in the us which would certainly help to raise a sports profile however doubly a call for conceive is changing in the not too distant future i guess what i'm really belief we've got some players complaining about too much money f.l. players is like allen and i have no danger but we get couple players from here right now n.f.l. so that we can do it but i'm really billing the sunday yeah rushing where all the plays and rusher and it has received no funding from the states so they have to finance all their expenses from selves as well as holding down another job they're only around five hundred players playing at the highest level within the country

even still mark is one of them he took up a spall time to see it in films and to him there's nothing else he'd rather be doing with the gun it's a contact sport and it's the kind of game where you can let out only adrenaline on the field but it stays in the failed once and come off the pitch you know fully relax and friends again with a pounds. i love the sport my wife isn't always happy with me but this is my life. the final was eventually won by the most good patriots in the blank to be bitchy i've been scared to come from russia's ural mountains but thirty five points to twenty one and the crowd of around five hundred fans certainly had a fantastic afternoon of entertainment american football in russia is growing slowly but surely in popularity but it's never going to be able to challenge the lines of n.f.l. europe let alone the n.f.l. itself nevertheless from a group of players playing out here is a great opportunity to play a sport that they're going to love over the years pritchard i'm told we don't see.

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