choose your life stream quality and enjoy your favorite. t.v. is not required to watch all its all you need to use your mobile device more charts any time. well three years ago president obama was awarded the nobel peace prize but what's changed since he received the prestigious award from drone attacks the shadow wars in a secret assassination last r.t. questions at the nobel peace prize was a mistake. the u.s. loves to use drones in warfare overseas but they're part of homeland security believe the high tech flying machines can be an asset to law enforcement here at home we'll take a look at how drones are getting smaller and the many drones on the horizon. and we often talk here on r t about being tracked online and pollard by surveillance

cameras but there's a new area where big brother is starting to watch you a look inside the growing state of surveillance inside our schools. it's tuesday october ninth five pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wahl and you're watching r t o's three years ago today president obama became a nobel peace prize winner it was early on in his presidency and many were wondering what exactly he did to deserve the prestigious award president obama himself seems surprised here's a clip of his acceptance speech i would be remiss if i did not acknowledge the considerable controversy that your generous decision has generated. in part of this is because at the beginning and the end of my labors on the world stage. compared to some of the joys of history would receive this prize.

schweitzer. marshall the mandela. well complements or slut. so here we are three years later what exactly has he done since he won the prize we've been fighting a war in afghanistan for more than a decade and the u.s. has been at the forefront of using and expanding drone warfare the practice is controversial to say at the least with civilian deaths a breeding anti-american sentiment abroad and our producers here at r.t. did some digging to find out just how many civilians were killed during obama's time in the office between october two thousand and nine and december two thousand and eleven one thousand three hundred eighty five civilians were killed by u.s. forces during that time there were one thousand one hundred forty nine united states military casualties and these figures don't include civilians and others that died indirectly and of course the numbers you just don't include deaths and

casualties that happened in two thousand and twelve or so-called militants that were killed those figures like that we ask has the noble peace prize winner really promoted peace has he really strengthen international cooperation discuss this and more i was joined by by colonel morris davis retired air force attorney and professor at howard university school of life first asked if president obama has lived up to his title of nobel peace prize laureate. imagine the selection committee regrets making that decision three years ago today they certainly ended up with egg on their face by picking president obama who i believe is the only nobel peace prize winner with a kill list that. seems to be contradicting their do you think that maybe they just kind of jumped god and had just these high expectations that he didn't fulfill we know a lot of folks at the time critics said that they were premature that the president

just taken office when he was selected for the award he really haven't accomplished anything yet and perhaps he would earn it later but it was premature and a lot of folks speculated that it was that optimism for what president obama's election represented and certainly if it comes to talking the talk he can certainly talk the talk and talk the talk but can he walk the walk i'm not sure that people would say that he cared and it was sort of the record of the last three years has shown as you talked about earlier the drone program which is not just a military program there's also a cia drone program that i'm not aware of any international law that permits the president to send a civilian agency out to kill people in other countries. targeted assassination program where american citizens the president can designate them for assassination without trial so you just a number of steps over the past three years really undermine the whole principle that alfred nobel intended when he donated his the state to charity and eight hundred ninety six to give an award to someone who promotes peace and we do have

a press release from the nobel prize committee when they when they. nominated him for this. here it is it says the norwegian nobel committee has decided that the nobel peace prize for two thousand and nine is to be awarded to president barack obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples the committee has attached special importance to obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons so they pointed to his extraordinary efforts i don't know when he had time to fulfill those africa but i mean would you characterize his efforts as extraordinary even three years later well if you're just judging by talk then yes it's been some extraordinary talk about the rule of law and respect for sovereignty and diplomacy and all the things that we tend to do the opposite of what we said you know he gave a stirring speech in december two thousand and nine when he went to oslo and

accepted the award about american values and principles and how that sets us apart from our adversaries and that we're the standard bearer you know for those principles and that we compromise our own values and we turn our backs on him and he also said that applies not only when it's easy but especially when it's hard and apparently one too long afterwards he decided it was too hard for us to live up to those principles well speaking of that speech i do want to play a clip now of it let's take a listen we must begin by acknowledging the hard truth we will not eradicate violent conflict in our lifetime. there will be times when nations acting individually or in concert will find the use of force not only necessary but morally justified. ok so we're very is there he had made it at the time that violence would sometimes be necessary and he said that sometimes

violence is morally justified now looking at his actions would you call the violence that has played out you know these drone strikes in pakistan or afghanistan are they morally justified i don't think so and it's not just me you know former president jimmy carter who himself is a nobel peace prize winner in two thousand and two had an op ed in the new york times this past june where he talked about particular with the arab spring emerging democracies of america ought to be setting the example and we are setting an example but it's a bad example and we're not living up to the principles that we espouse to others and that we claim we hold dear when we have programs like our drone program to ten percent. of the pakistani people have a favorable opinion of america and three quarters consider america to be their enemy so if the objective is to win hearts and minds and to set an example i don't think the program in pakistan is the cheapest go now as some might argue that the

president inherited these violent policies from his predecessor and he did work toward getting the united states away from that the winding down of the wars and people the troops from iraq he's vowing to pull the troops from afghanistan what do you say to that well you're right he did in some of these programs in fact in august of two thousand and eight when he accepted the democratic nomination to run for president he said john mccain we may want to embrace the bush policies but i'm going to make change and we're going to plot a new course and regain our moral authority and our moral standing and here we are today four years after that and our moral authority is probably eroded more than it's been restored. beyond these drone strikes some more of the peaceful efforts of the obama administration or that he vowed to make for example the closing of the. tunnel ballet that has not happened where at the end of his first term right now is that on obama he's son an executive order on january twenty second two thousand and

nine ordering that the facility be closed not less than one year later and that date has come and gone long ago i know some people would tend to blame congress for his failure to close guantanamo but he's the commander in chief so i think it's just been a lack of will not a lack of opportunity on his part and i want to go back when i read that part of the press release where they if they hailed obama for a strengthening international diplomacy especially in the wake of recent events we have the assassination of our ambassador over in libya and we saw these anti-american protests so i mean would you say that international diplomacy has been strengthened i don't think it has i mean that was certainly if you look at the problems we're facing with terrorism it's a global problem not just a u.s. problem so there needs to be greater global cooperation but we've got to have this go it alone attitude and if we're not satisfied with what you're doing we'll send

a drone and do it ourselves it was interesting you know when ambassador stevens body came home on september fourteenth and president obama went out to andrews air force base he talked about american values and principles and said that the individuals that gave their lives defending those principles in the u.s. would remain a light into the world all right now we're being a warning light not a guiding light. you know this isn't the first time that noble peace prize winner has the legitimacy of that has come into question there was henry kissinger yasser arafat they're both previous winners also that decision was controversial now a lot of people are saying president obama perhaps didn't deserve it do you think that this is something that the committee were gratz i would assume that they do i don't know how you can look at the past three years since the award was stowed upon president obama and feel good about the choice that you made remember alfred nobel when he set up this prize that was to recognize the individual that most

distinguished themselves by promoting peace in winding down armies in conflict i don't think he envisioned the drone program in a kill list well here so here he is running for election do you think he could redeem himself if he were to get reelected and deserving of that prize i hope so and you know you hear people say that well in the second term there will be a reelection and he can actually fulfill the promises about principles that he talked about in two thousand and eight but if you recall george bush when they said read my lips no new taxes voted out of office for not keeping his promise i mean i saw president obama's lips move and say i'm going to close guantanamo i'm going to end military commissions and i'm going to restore america's moral standing in the eyes of the world. i guess we'll have to wait and see if he gets re-elected if he can live up to this this prize or well i don't see mitt romney getting nominated at all so he was certainly it could be

a change for the worst and he said he will restore torture he'll increase kuantan of the right kind of really appreciate you coming on the show that was colonel morris davis retired air force attorney and professor at the howard university school of law. the bigger may not be better at least when it comes to drones the department of homeland security is now working on downsizing drones making them smaller and sleeker according to wired it's being tested now in fort sill oklahoma as part of homeland security is program called for a body aircraft for public safety it's compact size would allow servicemen to launch the drones by hand sending them to hover for thirty minutes to two hours at a time suck more about what exactly these many drones are capable of i'm joined now by trevor ten activists with electronic frontier foundation trevor welcome so these drones are getting smaller and smaller and do you think that this is practical or is it scary well i think it depends on what perspective you

look at from the american people's perfect perspective i think it's pretty scary because you know these things are going to be flying around the air soon you know the f.a.a. itself estimates that there may be as many as thirty thousand drones in the u.s. by the end of the decade and what we are worried about is that this could cause massive privacy problems with you know drones flying around with high definition cameras. whether they're just looking at you or they're infrared cameras or keep heat sensors or even cameras that can see through walls gresham a research service just this year a report saying within a couple years drones are going to be able to do that too so you know v.h.s. is is hurrying up this program spending millions of dollars giving local police forces these these small drones and you know we don't really know what kind of privacy the safeguards or. you know written laws that they're going to be follow and that's the thing with these drones talking about their size getting smaller

that would allow them to be even more secretive. right exactly i mean it's a give and take these drones were maybe harder to see and they could be quieter they're also smaller in the d.h.s.s. things they won't be able to fly along so they won't be flying for hours or days at a time but again they may be able to go into places where. big predator drones may not normally do and you know not to say that there's not a legitimate reason for using these from these little drones could be useful in natural disaster situations or forest fires or even if there was a nucular disaster but there are just no safety regulations on the books and. police will be able to use these for just general surveillance purposes and to the average american person that's very scary and of course to be drunk getting smaller that means they're also more affordable. that even make the proliferation of

them more likely to happen even quicker oh absolutely not only they're more affordable than regular predator drones i mean those you know predator drones surveillance type may cost like ten million dollars these ones go for fifty thousand dollars up to five hundred million dollars but as the local police department the u.s. actually aren't even paying for these at all the department of homeland security is now handing out millions of dollars to facilitate accelerate that used to be drones by the police department so a local sheriff's office in a town with five thousand people or one thousand people getting a half million dollar drone for free which they can fly around and use whatever they want so homeland security is pushing these out to police officers that we never would be able to for them to begin with so i think we're looking at a domestic drone boom happening relatively soon. oh absolutely that's why the

law that congress passed in february the drone industry was so intent on on getting passed what it did was it said that the f.a.a. actually has is mandated to give out these licenses to any public agency that wants them you know the war is winding down in afghanistan and iraq defense contractors are worried that they're not the same amount of money that's being spent on the military isn't going to be spent anymore or so they're looking for new markets and this law allows them to sell these drones by the thousands and you know within a couple years years it's possible that every town in america may have a drone flying over them if safety regulations and privacy regulations are put in place first wow i mean for citizens or residents that do not like the sound of this and do not want drones to be hovering freely without any limitations well what can we do. well luckily there's been

a backlash in congress since this law passed in february a lot of lawmakers actually didn't even know that this provision was in the bill that would have allowed all these licenses to proliferate so actually on both the left and right there's been really some second second thoughts going on there's there's several bills in congress right now that require warrants if police want to surveil somebody for a long period of time there's like data restrictions so police would have to delete the video footage after they film it in these laws are being proposed by both democrats or republicans the best thing people can do right now is contact their congressman and tell him to support this bill and if you see them on the campaign trail tell him this is an issue that matters most to you and that they should really do something about it ok so we've been talking a lot about. these drones becoming more widespread domestically and terms of internationally we have a company like raytheon saying that these small drones these many drones are less deadly because they're smaller and they're far be able to pinpoint and kill fewer

people what do you think about that. right so there are these new tiny missiles that can be attached to tiny or drones and predators they're less than two feet long and in a way basically the tenth of what a normal missile would weigh so you could put them on these tiny raven drones or so they say raven drones are the ones that military officers can carry in their backpack and actually just use their hands and throw in the air and then start taking off i mean the problem is the technology is proliferating so rapidly that everybody every country's going to be able to use them you know over seventy countries have drones now we saw the other day in israel that a surveillance drone was flying in israeli air space and they shot it down they think it was from hezbollah but then israel responded by using a drone to shoot out a motorcycle in a street in gaza and that ended up hurting eight bystanders along with the two people on the motorcycle so you know we're going to in china there are now flying

drones in spewed territory outside their borders so we're seeing this all over the world now and it's a wonder when it's going to at least slow down or if there's ever going to be any safeguards put on these drones whether it's international or domestic law right. bringing attention to some of these important issues that was covered ten activists with the electronic frontier foundation thanks for having me. well we turn now to how some schools are making it much easier to spy on students across the country schools are finding ways to track and monitor students inside and outside the classroom the techniques range from chips embedded in school id cards to g.p.s. is g.p.s. systems installed in computers tracking students every move to actual surveillance cameras texas is at the forefront these are the i.d.'s students are required to carry that have tracking chips built into them so teachers know where their

students are at all times schools say the measures will help make kids safer but is it just going too far to discuss this we were joined earlier by our producer andrew blake who just covered this story extensively on our website. r.f. id radio frequency identification chips and they're used pretty regularly i mean i have one of my pocket right now and if you have a new york state you know you want to collect i mean i don't really want to take out my driver's license and hold a firearm that understand that we do have one in there and i use it because i was born in new york state i used to cross the border all the time i have an r.f. id chip in mine just that when i cross over they know who i am and they can go and they can scan it and they can instantly pull up my file you know things like a q.r. code that you see out on the street somewhere. in same same concept in schools you want to be able to chronicle as much data as you can about someone to.

justify some sort of good at least of you know that's what they're doing it for in the case of texas we have a school district there where two schools so far this year have forced the students to wear these badges that have the cards inside of them and using it as a means of tracking the students so that they can try to try to cut down on the rampant truancy that's happening right there because a lot of school districts if you're not having kids showing up the states are going to pay for the schools the states are going to stop funding them in the subway that's northside district in texas includes san antonio i believe they believe that these two schools are at their leading are losing upwards of one hundred seventy five thousand dollars a day in funding because students just aren't showing up to the class and the teachers can't keep track of them so they figure ok well if we know where the students are at all times they're going to be held accountable we'll know if they're in the class we'll make sure we will have accurate numbers as we possibly can we'll be able to get that funding we'll be able to know where everyone is and it's great if you know you want to make sure that you're sending your child to

a school where you're going to get the best education that the state can be able to afford but at the same time instantly we're seeing all these privacy concerns just start on mounting up and they're being addressed in texas but unfortunately not necessarily in the best way we have a case just recently where one student. she rejected this idea she said i'll carry a badge on me you can have my name you can have my photo but i don't want to be tracked around the school because you can from anywhere up to one hundred feet away they can just budget in on a radio and they can find out like within a couple of inches where you are in the building and. you know kind of just gives people the heebie jeebies understand those incidents do not have a choice well this isn't just a mandate and we're seeing the students and parents are starting to revolt slowly but surely but so far the school district isn't really that concerned about their complaints we have one case of a girl who said that it would violate her religious beliefs to be tracked

consistently throughout the day and i also believe yes i mean pry understand privacy concerns and make a constitutional call there is not a legend or mark of the beast to be have this annoying on her at all times she said you know my religion doesn't stand for it and i don't want to have it and the school said ok that's what we're going to do you can go ahead and could have your regular old id badge but we're going to start implementing this all the way through and there are going to be repercussions and some students are already seeing that if they don't have there are if id chips they're being told they can't check out library books they can't pay for their lunches in the cafeteria they can't go into certain classrooms and we have one case in texas where someone was told that they couldn't vote for homecoming king and queen because they didn't have their card on them so i don't want to say that it's all in how they're taking away their rights to vote because this is just a high school obviously but it is a priest living things like that are important right now maybe not really. but

we're seeing a lot some problems here and yes in texas they think that every year because if they can adjust this truancy problem in this this lack of substantial attendance figures they can pull in the last two million dollars a year in state funding but meanwhile they got six thousand students. and they know where they are at all times all the time and it's kind of freaking people out and there's a lot of concerns not just about like well i just don't want to be tracked it kind of has as you would imagine like a chilling effect on how people are going to associate with one another like for example let's say let's say i know you're a good kid in school right let's say you he hung out with a couple of so some some undesirables right now if you're hanging out in the hallway with a couple of kids who are up to no good but you obviously are keeping yourself being nice and polite and stuff like that the school still going to know all that liz wahl she's hanging out with those bad kids she must be up to no good and almost be up to no good yeah and so people are going to pick where they hang out with are

going to pick which extracurricular activities they participate in because maybe some people don't want every authority figure in the school to know that they are involved in like let's say like a lesbian rights group like i was in high school or like i went to the poetry circle maybe i don't want a lot of people knowing i went to the poetry circle i guess it's too late so i decided on international television but i thought you should have been proud of that thank you but a lot of people though have their concerns they don't want everyone to know where they are and they're worried that it's going to come back down on them and they're going to be ridiculed and we're already seeing they're being disqualified from participating and in school wide vote being disqualified from picking up their lunches and being told that no you come back when you can prove who you are with a computer chip and it has a lot of people uncomfortable all right now so as far as i know this is only in texas right there's a couple of cases of it happening in texas there are actually a few companies who market these devices for schools are institutes all over the world but the case that we're seeing right now is in this one school board in texas

and it's being tried out in two schools one elementary school one high school impacting roughly around six thousand people but right now it is just a pilot program and is this just a guinea pig in other words could it be for see this happen if this country and other schools instead if this takes off they're expecting within. like a couple of years to have advance in texas and impact about one hundred thousand students and one hundred twenty two different schools and of course also as you know it's going to be a slippery slope if we see it working longer are you going to work where you cardwell what happens next so very to fit in here somewhere out there is actually i saw someone saying online that it just prepares students through the real world where they go to really worry adulthood and they are constantly monitor the real world i went to school and then i would change them when i'm sorry a change in that much is true and your pleasure as always and i'll check out and stories on our website our you know our lead usa was our to lead producer andrew blake. shifting gears now you may have seen this photo making its rounds on the

internet pop icon lady gaga paying a visit to the ecuadorian embassy in london where julian assange has been holed up for more than three months it's unclear exactly why she paid a visit to the world's most notorious whistleblower however this is a lady ga ga's first appearance in the wiki leaks saga well uploading the documents that would ultimately comprise cable gate allege whistleblower bradley manning told a friend he quote listened and lip sync to lady gaga telephone not everything is glitz and glamour some of us on just supporters stand to lose a lot of money according to the guardian one of them have been ordered to forfeit ninety three thousand five hundred pounds in bail money a british court has ruled out a sonder supporters to fail to ensure a songes capture as sondra broke his bail conditions in june this year when he took refuge in the ecuadorian embassy after he lost a supreme court battle fighting his extradition to sweden his supporters fear that if he's sent to sweden over questioning for sex crime allegations hole ultimately

be x. rated to the u.s. well here where he will be charged for leaking thousands of secret documents on his whistle blowing web site songe has been stuck in the ecuadorian embassy in london since mid june ecuador has. granted asylum to asylum but the government the british government won't allow him safe passage to the airport to leave the country so until he is able to leave the embassy assad will have to rely on visitors coming to him and we're going to leave it off there breaking the sat is coming up and thirty minutes here on our team let's check in with the amar and to see what is on today's agenda abbi. doing what. you are going on over there so all the all the protests happening in greece i mean is it really about austerity when to break it down with artie's own beautiful lauren lyster to really dive into that were to talk to a plane to from the n.d.a. case the national defense authorization act you know where we can be locked up

indefinitely now in this country without trial so we'll talk to the plaintiffs herself on the case and running now you know obama war is peace now liz we live in orwellian time so we're going to kind of break down the mass murder club of the nobel peace prize committee and highlight all of the random people that have been awarded at this controversial prize in the past all in breaking the set coming up next right a lot to look forward there i will be tuning in that's for sure have a but that's going to do it for the new year's for more on the stories we covered you can head on over to our you tube channel that is youtube dot com slash r.t. america we posts all of our interviews on line in full there or to see what our web producers are busy working on check out our website r.t. dot com slash u.s.a. follow me on twitter at as well back at eight pm.