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your profession and even think that you could have made a career in theatre. so why did you choose to go to a technical college instead. majored in communications and later she became a bureaucrat why did you give up acting. well you know i went to an arts cole. to be precise because i was in had nothing to do with arts because i preferred technical stuff so i chose the mechanics institute in st petersburg at that time it was a military institute of mechanics. so i got my first degree in technical sciences. you know when i was a schoolboy also drew and i was actually quite good at it and everybody thought that i would become an artist or an architect. but i became a journalist because i had this realization that i will need to provide for my
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family. always die penniless. do you ever have any regrets do you ever think that you should have done something. instead. you know. well you know i love art and even though my cost was not a test take i still attended classes in my school with. you also love music too yes every wednesday we would spend the whole day in the arts room together with students watching them draw. we would always go together to all arts i was a bishop had in st petersburg. so art has always been a big part of my life. all right let's move on to politics now. you're one of russia's top officials recently you refused to attend this session. the
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parliamentary assembly of the council of europe you said quotes that your strategic initiatives will probably go on he did once all these strategic initiatives and why do you think they will get one he did does this mean your sources have warned you that some forces may be preparing to sack russia at this session. the let me first to give you some background to this story. i was invited to speak at the parliamentary assembly and i gladly accepted the invitation. and this was half a year ago even more when i met with a group of pace m.p.'s here in moscow i knew. they were here to monitor our election and we had a very open and lively discussion. this was let me remember this was either january or february of course we talked about the parliamentary election in
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december and about the then upcoming presidential election. and we had an open discussion of these rather controversial issues. so when our european partners asked me if i would like to come to strasbourg i agreed straight away without consulting with anybody. and i think they were even taken aback somewhat but they clearly didn't expect to the russian parliament or a speaker to agree so easily to participate in a pay session for the first time in the fifteen years that russia has been a pace member. genuinely wanted to go there. but later of course. i became aware of. wager developments and you remember the.
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book i knew how they worked on their resolution on elections in russia and i just wanted to clarify something you later decision not to participate was it also your personal decision. it was my decision to accept the invitation and it was my decision not to go. but let me finish. i knew how they worked on the resolution about elections in russia. and then. during the last week i really nasty thing happened. and for a very nasty thing. we learned that they were going to recommend a higher level of monitoring for russian elections. so with the ministerial council of the council of europe stepping in. that i
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made a conclusion that the initiatives and issues that i was going to present in my speech . would probably go on he did by the roots of four big majority. of. clearly rusa for big. and. also a few days earlier i sent a message through our diplomatic channels telling them i may not be coming to strasburg to address space. unless they drop the idea of issuing sacher a commendation. but they ignored this warning so i decided not to go will. we use this words. europeans are generally very strong about political correctness the reason you and to send. that would be something outrageous and you talk about rousseau
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for being so rusa for be there as the only for the remaining and not just remaining but being present in international institutions. i don't know if it's the only four or one of the few remaining. but i realised i was too little chance of being heard certain steps taken by the large group of m.p.'s mentioned so that and the draft resolution they have prepared. even though i had no intention of discussing the resolution. well judge for yourself. where did this resolution come from which we. russia is a sovereign nation and europe's biggest country. major power in the
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council of europe which actually funds the activities of the council of europe. so why then do we have this resolution. why do european m.p.'s think they can tell a modern nation. of laws to adopt. laws to repeal. of the existing russian laws should be changed. do you think it was an emotional response or so this is clearly on fair and this has little or nothing to do with the real life is really an emotional response not a well considered policy well by pace delegates you mean yes. it was emotional and politically but it by asst. to cause
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otherwise. how do you explain this recommit. to repeal or alter. some of the recently adopted laws well for example take the war on information as our european partners call it although they're wrong. because its official name. is not just the law on information. but amendments on measures to protect children from harmful information. sponsor a lot of controversy in russia as well. well you know we adopted those amendments after reviving existing laws which in many european countries.
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and all four parliamentary parties supported those amendments unanimously we just doesn't happen very often. i doubt there are various large group of european m.p.'s . who voted for this resolution have even read the russian law or even their own laws on this issue that. actually the british law for example says that web sites which publish child pornography and similar materials should be shut down and other countries like finland or a denmark and so on have similar laws. or let's take a look at another a commendation if you are they want us to reinstate good ninety good coffee as a member of the state duma. while they criticize the duma for taking this decision. now it's
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a proper judicial procedure but you know as required by russian law. but if you know the lawmakers who voted for such or a commendation clearly haven't read the russian law on state duma deputies but of peace in the us now article four says in black and white on water grounds a deputy may be stripped of his mandate and what the procedure is this with just a nobody in the duma has accused you not a good coffin of administrative let alone criminal offenses. but you why then do we need a court decision just the duma made this decision based on article four of the law on state duma deputies are strictly in compliance with the procedure defined by the law says so again that russian state duma chairman spotlight will be back shortly after we take a break so stay with us please continue to innovative. technology
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fine now trying to treat each leg out there know what's going on so they can pinpoint. the dirt right now. those shells become income mortal danger and a piece of art. stick them in basic structure in making turned out from some pretty. bums and. are to get off sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything you thought you don't know i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture.
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that we just talked about the council of europe and its criticisms of russia and you mentioned some laws there is also another law as has been adopted the law and defamation is actually an amendment. to defamation news once again a criminal offense which makes the media nervous they're also the rallies the lower on n.g.o.s the russian human rights activists are also very critical of these new laws this really looks like a clamp down and even though technically it may not be on constitutional authorities clearly taking a tougher stance with respect to the people. over question of why do you agree. yeah sure this is who is just on the short skirts again of like i said. was that about these bills and occluding the ones you mentioned. were all
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prepared after thorough reviewing similar laws existing in western countries. in fact but the laws adopted by the russian duma are set are even softer and more liberal than the laws in the west. including the western europe. don't. know if and besides the reason the duma adopted these laws. was because the people of russia needed them. these laws are to protect the russian people from existing threats that. you personally don't have this impression that the era of liberalism is over in russia. and that the government now will take a tougher stance with respect to people including those who break the law.
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again the primary objective of the state duma to meet people's needs and provide people with was they are asking for. to get awkward how do you manage to do that if most deputies in this big duma belong to noted russia which calls itself a pro-government party you're saying that your objective is to serve people's needs who do you support the government or the people. but you should bear in mind that power is the primary objective of every political party. it has been is and will be. and each political party this with us to that is now represented in the state duma is getting the company had its
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platform during the campaign. did you not so ninety two percent of the russian people. voted in the parliamentary elections in december so you can do that of. a constituent a vast majority of the population. the solution i agree and you know russia is the most popular party in russia. but recently us the parliamentary speaker had a meeting with party is not represented in the duma you said that the duma may even set up a council for interacting with parties that haven't made it into the parliament so why do you say you will listen to part is that people don't support parties than three percent of the vote. don't you think this defeats the very purpose of having
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an election. he do certain parties don't get into parliament to consult with them why not. well the political landscape of our society has changed a lot in recent years but this and this is another result of the democratic processes taking place in our country in our society. at some point when we realized that the existing political parties were unable to fully represent the entire spectrum of society. and that is why we adopted a number of bills to modernize our political system including the bill that makes
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it much easier to create and register a political party. today we have. political parties in russia commutative and two hundred more organized in communities. in a weeks time on october fourteenth nine political parties will participate in the gubernatorial elections but is the shots where you and twenty three more parties will participate in regional elections well that's. a few months ago and as i imagine we've been a reprieve sensitives of the parties that already existed yet who are not represented in the duma. and they asked if we could set up a forum for non parliamentary parties in the duma. and now we have even more political parties emerging you're right and last week i
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gathered the leaders of nearly all political parties. you're right last week i gathered the leaders of nearly all political parties. and most of them supported my idea to set up by the. national council for non parliamentary parties. so that these parties can come together. and discuss certain issues in the presence of the state duma chairman. it's amazing i can hardly believe. you know one of the most influential policy makers in this country and russia has never been a very liberal country and it was still you really want to know would be leaders of those tiny parties think. how do you represent the ruling party what is it can
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still you're interested in what they have to say. what we're going to do you have time for that. well you call them tiny part is but they have people who support them. tens of thousands. hundreds of thousands and we can't neglect all those people you can't of course we can but in a country like russia with a population of almost one hundred fifty million how can you care about one hundred or two hundred or three hundred people say this is no longer politics it's charity we can and we should do that this is another principle of democracy you should listen to minority he sure did that with another controversial bill currently discussed in the duma involves amendments related to. you know russian student in oxford writes in her blog that she has examined these amendments and now every day she attends classes in oxford she can be charged with high treason. really have
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reasons to worry. so well you know we only adopted these amendments in the first reading. and i can tell you there will be some changes made to those bill. if that will make necessary adjustments at the stage of the second reading. in the party in conclusion i would like to quote something that you've said and i agree with you but. i'd like you to explain what you meant by this you said that the current doomer go to work at the time of a tick changing politics sounds very impressive but what did you mean specifically what should we expect to do. no don't you feel yourself that the situation in politics and in society in general has changed dramatically. don't you
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think that the situation we have in two thousand and twelve is very different from what we had in two thousand and ten i'm sorry did you say twenty because if you meant nine hundred maybe some difference but if it's twenty percent nothing has changed tool i'm talking about two thousand and ten personally i see no difference not. do you mean you see no difference take the parliamentary elections for example. of the december election made it clear that the existing parties did not represent the entire political spectrum of society. and it was necessary to change our political system to modernize it. is what we did by adopting the law on political parties. on direct gubernatorial elections. and amendments removing certain electoral restrictions
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or. but. we have already had the first reading of a new law on the federation council. so all these new laws are there to modernize our political system and it is absolutely clear that we need to do that. thank you very much you're a very interesting person to talk to perhaps this is because you have a really interesting job i do have a very interesting job thank you thank you very much for being with us and just to remind us today was a russian state duma champion and that's it for now for all of us here spotlight will be back with more. until then. and taking. yes it was.
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