well discussed it with the state do it chairman. chairman of the state duma so again a risk you used to occupy one of the backroom positions in the presidential administration now is one of the most public politicians. who was among the originators of controversial it requires corn planted n.g.o.s to make financial disclosures belong to the ruling party but sans opposition protests in moscow are the sign of maturing democracy nevertheless recently peace where it was supposed to speak expressed its concerns to the russian politics and the rich can blame based members for looser public attitudes and boycott the. hello mr naryshkin and welcome to the show thanks for taking the time with us hello mr gore enough and thanks for having me just looked at. this school you went to was associated with the move to me. in one of your interviews you

said that you could have picked acting is your profession and you wouldn't think that you could have made a career in theater. so why did you choose to go to a technical college instead of going to put you were you majored in communications and later she became a bureaucrat why did you give up acting you know well you know i went to an arts cole but to be precise because i was then had nothing to do with arts because i preferred technical stuff so i chose the mechanics institute in st petersburg at that time it was a military institute of mechanics. so i got my first degree in technical sciences. deviously in the somebody. you know when i was a schoolboy also drew and i was actually quite good at it and everybody thought that i would become an art. or an architect. but i became

a journalist because i had this realization that i will need to provide for my family and that artists always die penniless. do you ever have any regrets do you have a thing that you should have done something. you know. well you know i love art and even though my cost was not a test take i still attended classes in my school with. you also love music too and yes every wednesday we would spend the whole day in the art room together with students watching them draw. we would always go together to all arts i was a bishop had in st petersburg. so art has always been a big part of my life. all right let's move on to politics now. you're one of

russia's top officials recently you refused to attend this session of the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe you said there are quotes that your strategic initiatives will probably go on he did once all these strategic initiatives and why do you think they will get one he did does this mean your sources have warned you that some forces may be preparing sank to russia at this session. the let me first to give you some background to this story. i was invited to speak at the parliamentary assembly and i gladly accepted the invitation. and this was half a year ago even more when i met with a group of pace m.p.'s here in moscow. when they were here to monitor our election and we had a very open. then lively discussion. was let me remember this was either

january or february of course we talked about the parliamentary election in december and about the then upcoming presidential election. and we had an open discussion of these rather controversial issues. so when our european partners asked me if i would like to come to strasbourg i agreed straight away without consulting with anybody. and i think they were even taken aback somewhat but they clearly didn't expect to the russian parliament or a speaker to agree so easily to participate in a pay session for the first time in the fifteen years that russia has been a pace member. genuinely wanted to go there.

but later of course. i became aware of wager developments and you remember the. book i knew how they worked on their resolution on elections in russia i just wanted to clarify something you later decision not to participate was it also your personal decision. it was my decision to accept the invitation and it was my decision not to go. but let me finish. i knew how they worked on the resolution about the elections in russia. and then. during the last week i really nasty thing happened. in front of mary nasty thing. we learned that they were going to recommend a higher level of monitoring for russian elections. so you will. the ministerial

council of the council of europe stepping in. based on that i made a conclusion that the initiatives and issues that i was going to present in my speech will probably go on heeded by the roots of four big majority. of. clearly grew so far big. and. also a few days earlier i sent a message through our diplomatic channels telling them i may not be coming to strasburg to address space. unless they drop the idea of issuing sacher a commendation. but they ignored this warning so i decided not to go will. we use this words.

europeans are generally very strong about political correctness the reason new and to seven seas new francophone. that would be something outrageous and you talk about. so rusa for be there as the only for the remaining and not just remaining but being present in international institutions because. i don't know if it's the only four or one of the few remaining. but i realised i was too little chance of being heard certain steps taken by the large group of m.p.'s mentioned so that and the draft resolution they have prepared. even though i had no intention of discussing the resolution but. well judge for yourself. where did this resolution come from.

but russia is a sovereign nation and europe's biggest country so. a major power in the council of europe which actually funds the activities of the council of europe. so why then do we have this resolution. why do european m.p.'s think they can tell a modern nation. laws to adopt. laws to repeal. of the existing russian laws you could should be changed. do you think it was an emotional response or so this is clearly on fair and this has little or nothing to do with the real life is really an emotional response not a well considered policy well by pace delegates you mean yes. it was

emotional and politically but it by assist the. cause otherwise. how do you explain this recombination. to repeal or alter. some of the recently adopted laws well for example take the war on information as our european partners call it although they're wrong. because its official name. is not just a law on information. but amendments on measures to protect children from harmful information. sponsor a lot of controversy in russia as well. if well you know we adopted those amendments after reviving. existing laws in many european countries.

and all four parliamentary parties supported those amendments unanimously we doesn't happen very often. i doubt there are various large group of european m.p.'s . who voted for this resolution have even read the russian law or even their own laws on this issue is that. actually the british law for example says that websites which publish child pornography and similar materials should be shut down in other countries like finland or a denmark and so on have similar laws. or let's take a look at another a commendation if your moods they want us to reinstate the ninety good coffee as a member of the state duma. while they criticize the duma for taking

this decision without a proper judicial procedure as required by russian law. but you know the lawmakers who voted for such or a commendation clearly haven't read the russian law on state duma deputies but of peace in the us now article four says in black and white on water grounds a deputy may be stripped of his mandate and what the procedure is just a nobody in the duma has accused not a good call for administrative let alone criminal offenses. but why then do we need a court decision to the duma made this decision based on article four of the law deputies are strictly in compliance with the procedure defined by the law says. russian state duma chairman spotlight will be back shortly after we take

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welcome back to spotlight and just a reminder we're guest on the show today. the chairman of the russian state duma the head of the lower chamber of the russian parliament. mr carter that we just talked about the council of europe and its criticisms of russia and you mentioned some laws see there is also another law as has been adopted the law and defamation actually an amendment. to defamation news once again a criminal offense which makes the media nervous they're also the law and the lower and n.g.o.s the russian human rights activists are also very critical of these new laws this really looks like a clamp down and even though technically it may not be on constitutional authorities clearly taking a tougher stance with respect to the people. over there do you agree.

yeah sure. sure so it's again of like i said. was that about these bills lootings the ones you mentioned. were all prepared after thorough reviewing similar laws existing in western countries. in fact the laws adopted by the russian duma are set are even softer and more liberal than the laws in the west. including the western europe. and besides the reason the duma adopted these laws. was because the people of russia needed them. these laws are to protect the russian people from existing threats

that. you personally don't have this impression that the era of liberalism is over in russia. and that the government now will take a tougher stance with respect to people that including those who break the law. shows which are. global again the primary objective of the state duma to meet people's needs and provide people with was they are asking for. too with the gate how do you manage to do that if most deputies in this big duma belong to noted russia which calls itself a pro-government party you're saying that your objective is to serve people's needs who do you support the government or the people. but you should bear in mind that power is the primary objective of every political party.

it has been is and will be. and each political party that is now represented in the state duma is getting the company as it had its platform during the campaign. did you not so ninety two percent of the russian people. voted in the parliamentary elections in december so you can do the. vacancy a vast majority of the population. the solution i agree and you know russia is the most popular party in russia. but recently us the parliamentary speaker had a meeting with party is not represented in the duma you said that the duma maybe

even set up a council for interacting with parties that haven't made it into the parliament so why do you say you will listen to part is that people don't support parties and three percent of the vote. don't you think this defeats the very purpose of having an election. if you were certain bodies don't get into parliament then you still consult with them why not. well the political landscape of our society has changed a lot in recent years but and this is another result of the democratic process has taken place in our country in our society. at some point when we realized that the existing political parties were unable to fully represent the entire spectrum of society.

and that is why we adopted a number of bills. to modernize our political system including the bill that makes it much easier to create and register a political party. today we have. political parties in russia commutative and two hundred more organizing committees. in a weeks time on october fourteenth nine political parties will participate in gubernatorial elections. and twenty three more parties will participate in regional elections. yeah. a few months ago and i was i imagine with the reprieve sensitives of the parties that already existed yet were not represented in the duma. and they asked if we could

set up a forum for non parliamentary parties in the duma. and now we have even more political parties emerging you're right and last week i gathered the leaders of nearly all political parties. you're right last week i gathered the leaders of nearly all political parties. and most of them supported my idea to set up by the. whole council for non parliamentary parties. so that these parties can come together. and discuss certain issues in the presence of the state duma chairman. it's amazing i can hardly believe. you're one of the most influential policy makers

in this country and russia has never been a very liberal country and you are still you really want to know would be leaders of those tiny parties think. you represent the ruling party what can still you're interested in what they have to say but what would you do you have time for that. well you call them tiny parties. they have people who support them. tens of thousands we have hundreds of thousands and we can't neglect all those people you can't of course we congas in a country like russia with a population of almost one hundred fifty million how can you care about one hundred or two hundred or three hundred people. this is no longer politics it's charity we can and we should do that this is another principle of democracy you should listen to minority he sure did that with another controversial bill currently discussed in

the duma involves amendments related to. you know russian student in oxford writes in her blog that she has examined these amendments and now every day she attends classes in oxford she can be charged with high treason. or really have reasons to worry. so well you know we only adopted these amendments in the first reading. and i can tell you there will be some changes made to those bill. if that will make necessary adjustments at the stage of the second reading. in the party in conclusion i would like to quote something that you've said and i agree with you but i would like you to explain what you meant by this you said that the current doomer go to work at the time of a tick changing politics sounds very impressive but what did you mean specifically

what should we expect to do. no don't you feel yourself that the situation in politics and in society in general has changed dramatically. don't you think that the situation we have in two thousand and twelve is very different from what we had in two thousand and ten i'm sorry did you say twenty because if you meant nine thousand nine hundred the may be some difference but if it's twenty percent nothing has changed i'm talking about two thousand and ten personally i see no difference not. what do you mean you see no difference take the parliamentary elections for example. the december election made it clear that the existing parties did not represent the entire political spectrum of society. and it was necessary to change our political system

to modernize it. in the city's main union which is what we did by adopting the law on political parties. on direct gubernatorial elections. and amendments removing certain electoral restrictions or. what. we have already had the first reading of a new law on the federation council. so all these new laws are there to modernize our political system and it is absolutely clear that we need to do that. with them and i thank you very much you're a very interesting person to talk to perhaps this is because you have a really interesting job i do have a very interesting job thank you thank you very much for being with us and just to remind us today was a russian state duma champion and that's it for now from all of us here spotlight will be back with more on what's going on in and out until then. and

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