sitting supreme power in the hands of why technocratic experts who wouldn't have to worry about public opinion would be able to take the tough decisions and of course you know there is no such person as the wise disinterested expert they all have their prejudices they all have their assumptions and freed from the constraints of public opinion they were able to get on with creating an almost autocratic system which has stayed in large measure in place to this day which is why you know when people vote against it that is seen as the beginning of the argument rather than as it would be in a proper democracy the end of the argument you've recently released a book under the title a dim marriage which is about the relationship between the e.u. and the u.k. why did you decide to give it the subtitle is britain and europe is not a it's not a marriage. piece although well it's an interesting one i read the review of a work by a marriage guidance counsellor i didn't read the book but the review said something fascinating and it said that a relationship can take

a lot of arguing that rouser not a bad thing because if you are arguing with your husband or wife it suggests that you care enough about his or her view that you want to change it it's when the rowels give way to contempt when the stormy sessions fall silent and give way to scorn the relationship is over and i think something similar has happened even in the time that i've been an m.e.p. when i was first elected constituents would write to me very angrily and say outrageous that the budget is on approved outrages that all the money is being spent on these agricultural and foreign aid boondoggles outrages that the system is so undemocratic and now. what you get much more often is a kind of you know what you expect the whole system is rushing and that's when you realize that the marriage is over and i think it's just a question of time and how we how we negotiate the most amicable divorce you've even gone as far as to call the relationship between your a craps and ordinary those is abusive yes in the sense that the ordinary voter if you like or the voter i mean we're not doing the ordinary voter is seen as an

inconvenience is seen as a problem you know when i think back to the way in which the french and dutch referendums were greeted six years ago every single speaker with two exceptions in the entire european parliament stood up to say how do we get around this problem you know why did they get it wrong how do we how do we really educate voters you know i was reminded of those that eerie poem by bertold brecht where he says wouldn't it therefore be easier to dissolve the people and elect another in their place and that it didn't occur to anybody that the people have spoken and that therefore the politicians should listen talk to me about your assertion that it was brussels backed coups that toppled george papandreou in greece and still there is going in italy what proof do you have of that well in two countries a an elected prime minister was removed from office and replaced with a technocrat who had never stood for office in his life not just

a technocrat through your account in greece it was the former head of the you're the former vice president of european central bank in italy it was a former european commissioner mario monti who as well as appointing yourself as prime minister appoint himself finance minister giving a whole new meaning to the phrase the full monty and didn't have a single elected doesn't have a single elected politician in the italian government now both in the case of the company most administrations in greece and the mounted ministration in italy we were told that these were national governments that was the phrase used. and yet the whole purpose of these governments was to push through a program that would be rejected by the nation in a general election so if you like the the the last shreds of pretense were said to the velvet glove was taken off of the iron fist underneath which i'm sure you then have what was always implicit but is now explicit which is apparatchiks in brussels ruling directly through apparatchiks in rome and in athens with the people

and their elected representatives cut out altogether i saw last week that mario monti said he might seek a second term to remove him seeking a first from your description it sounds terrifying easy for brussels today that what steps see your across have to take these were civilian jumpers ok it is true that the letter of constitutional propriety was observed in the sense that the parliament in both cases indorse the new government that's the case with every dictatorship starting from napoleon they always manage to get the parliamentary vote in their favor the reality is that we're dealing with administrations that have been imposed on countries because keeping those countries in the your was thought to be more important than allowing them to vote for the policies they want we do appear to be drawing nearer to a referendum on whether the u.k. should stay in the european union what would it take do you think for the government to take that final step well politicians in my experience feel the heat before they see the light i don't think any political party likes referendums to be honest because politicians are instinctively mistrustful of

a process whose outcome they can't control nonetheless they all see that there is big public demand people want to be consulted they feel that it's a huge issue you know what country you want to belong to and that it's insulting and wrong not to allow people the referendum which all three parties were recently promising and all three have managed to draw back from i'll go so far as to say that the party which gets there first will probably win the next election the people who feel strongly about this may be a minority but they are not an insignificant minority and it's a vote determining issue for a chunk of the electorate. and so. it's almost i suppose like a kind of game theory like a prisoner's dilemma my the party desperately wants a referendum but neither can afford to let the other get there first what kind of referendum dean supporters simple in or out or a more complex constructs i think ultimately they will have to be an in out referendum i think it's the only one that makes sense you can't offer people something that you haven't yet negotiated or something that isn't in your gift to

deliver i mean if you had a referendum and said wouldn't it be great if we opted out of all the following areas but remained in the free market will you know idea whether the e.u. is going to give you that and so you that that's a meaningless question unless the renegotiation has already been completed by then and that's how i think it it should happen let me be is generous as i can do the people want to stay in and it's fair about this is like. if the problem is timing and what is going to emerge from the eurozone crisis because that's what we're told no one now admits to being against the referendum in principle what they will then i was saying is now isn't the right time we've got to see what emerges fine if that's the case then pre-announce now and pretty legislate now for a referendum to take place in the say twenty sixteen that's plenty of time you've then got four years you supporters of membership to come back with a deal that you reckon you can sell to the british people. and the fact that you preannounced that referendum means that all of the other member states also

understand that if you don't get the deal that you can sell to the country the alternative is that we leave and we negotiate something differently from the outside i think if you did that then it is even possible that you could succeed in getting something along the lines of the swiss deal without calling it leaving i mean it is then becomes a presentational question whether you call it associate membership or whatever but what is absolutely certain is that if our own civil servants and if the other member states do not understand that it is either a renegotiation or exit there will be no significant improvement in our terms of membership and what about was all three parties saying it and they which is you know we've got this crisis going on our main priority should be to reduce the deficit we don't have the time with inclination now to talk about having me referendum is wonderful isn't it we were told for twenty years that now was not the right time for a referendum because europe wasn't an issue and now we're told now it's a wrong time because europe is an issue you know the eurozone crisis and all this i mean it's the ultimate yes minister argument you know

a perfectly good idea in principle minnesota perhaps now is not the most propitious occasion if not now when you know the eurozone crisis has wrecked the premise on which we joined it's falsified our membership terms europe is collapsing as a share of our exports the rest of the world is increasing almost by the minute as a share of our trade. the reason that we went in in the first place in the early seventy's in the argument has been deployed for nearly forty years has now been made redundant by the collapse of the eurozone economy and the mulish insistence of the eurozone governments on accelerating all the policies that have created the crisis that now is the time for us to raise our eyes to more distant horizons and reimburse the wider world daniel had on thank you very much thank you. the sun rises over what seems like analyst forest but here in the new directions

cry for hundred kilometers north of light of all stalk as in much of the world it's disappearing and account to structure a great. markers both illegal and those finding ways to outsmart the system for filing down the forests of the region for them profit goes well beyond the future of our planet and the result could be an ecological crisis the world wildlife fund for nature makes regular trips to help local rangers do what little they can to stop the logging but it's not easy lager set up traps making them hard to reach in an already rough terrain and have mastered ways to jump through legal loopholes this is a nature reserve we're only sanitary logging of disease trees is allowed according to law and not a single berry can be picked but loggers like this use their sanitary logging permit to cut down absolutely healthy trees and sell the profitable to member over

the border in china we are on the hunt for illegal loggers and it's not going to be easy to forests. and their chances are slim now for now we can stay in our dreams but as soon as we find quality tracks we'll have to drop our wheels and get out silently in order not to scare the loggers off alexander some more in ca has been a ranger for over twenty five years he can spend weeks at a time tracking a single group of loggers easier to work when snow falls in autumn it's impossible to find human tracks and even transport tracks are hard to see after hours of driving we get sent in the right direction by word of mouth you can see that the ground is soft here which means that they've twelve the tractor trails are very fresh which in fact means that we need to be quiet. in order to not scare them off as we get closer. this team says they're illegal but have no documents now xander can now call the police to take over his work here is done he

is overwhelmingly outnumbered there are too few rangers working in the promote the region and the w w f says the government isn't doing enough to stop it i guess the government now as they started city for more of forest legislation so assumes the pals and so on regards in your forest court and according to the off every forest there's a guy just in waltham in the in the forest to the still exists forest courts still doesn't work just. as no one tries to stop them in just five years the forest will be gone they'll fill it all to china what will the people who live afterwards do. it's a question more and more people are aware of today climate change in the safety of our environment as a whole are being discussed around the world and perhaps it's those small steps that might be a start to people living in harmony with nature. by

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a lucrative international. town for the latest action from the world of sport. welcome to the sport here in r.t. these are the headlines on top of the world's the must even battle wins by a massive margin in korea to lead for you know one drivers' championship. to a thrilling six five victory over the move be this in the k. . and some like it hot. looks forward to what could be the warmest winter olympics on record to sochi continues preparations for the next guy. but first a bastion vettel has won formula one is korean grown pretty the victory now puts the defending champion on top of the driver's standings with four races left he

started behind red bull teammate who had pole position but took the lead early on to eventually win by a massive eight second margin and take the win in a row second while for. respond alongside to the back of this nice six point of along in the driver's championship. things are holding up in the legs of the title race fan you need to drive to claim victory in japan on his honda taking championship leaving the reins i may need to be on my mind to second place britain's call crutchlow complete the podium the driver is now twenty eight points behind the rennes i when the ice. cream that just left. there was one moment i could get a good life out of the corner so i could basim and get by him and finally. i do to pull some good laps i suffered by the roadside during during the race but i could manage and was the end i could also control dig up and it may have been

for the d.m. for me on the. meanwhile in ice hockey the nominal states hope of the western conference after a three two win over mess the net squad scarse and pay to go up to third after coming from sudan to win a six five in a thriller bottom side after will be released while the home side with a faster ones out of the box still into two nearly eight minutes of play just as the aca with the first then camille put off the second but a cool chick seemed set up to a taken off the pole one back before scoring himself late in the period and that made it c.t. the whole valley had a saying to them put scar in front and only in the second couple chook that he can all netted a second this makes it for t.v. games to play. in the deal is alexy similar call tied the game four for. both sides then netted again to make it five five and with thirteen minutes to get

a swedish forward tony mortensen got scars when it was raining goals in katherine scar and i feel points for the top spot in the west between games in hand. now there are just under sixteen months to go before such a house the winter olympics but it's already a safe bet this will be a games to remember that is according to former olympic skier champion shaun claude killy he's now a part of the i.o.c. delegation overseeing the city's development and spoke with robert that then yeah. a great challenge for a big country in twenty four thousand this southern russian city of sochi will host the first winter olympics in the country's history. it used to be a well known seaside town but now with massive olympic preparations the future of the city itself is under construction benefits of having had the games will be there for ever in my opinion so it's a it's a it's a chance for this region today everyone in the world knows where searching is on

the map i believe it's almost a unique in the world because you have trees where the hockey tournament is going to be played and then twenty five minutes later by train you on a fabulous ski resort this is very specific it's the sounds of russia it's very comparable to a place like this in france where you swim in the morning you wear your skin the morning and swim in the afternoon after a one hour car drive and the world will know about it very soon holding the winter olympics in the southern climate is what makes the sochi games so special and so challenging three time olympic alpine ski jumping around and currently the chairman of the olympic ordination commission is uncle kili is sure we will be there as soon as it's needed even despite the fact this could be the hottest winter olympics ever snow is going to be made whenever it's possible and

stalled and today you can stall keep the snow and the protection during the summer and then use it for example in ski jump you can use it whenever you you want or need it. obviously that's the lessons from vancouver the source she deems are also set to create some brand new experiences in olympic history something to make them through a year. nick the most compact games ever most athletes skiers we agree we go down out of the chalet put their skis on and they are hockey player we walk to the ring as skaters. which is incredible. i don't think we have we have ever had that before while the sochi twenty fourteen official slogan was also revealed only twenty fifth of september hot to us

i think it is terrific absolutely terrific because it's. it's a winter summer. your. north south it's. snow ice and yours and it's i think it's one way to say the rest of the world is going to be welcome. to searching yours that's a gift from russia to the rest of the world and the best present would be for russia to turn their first winter olympics into the best games ever robert brilliant r.t. . now in tennis andy murray is defending his shanghai masters crown against novak djokovic in a repeat of the u.s. open final and he's on the verge of winning it for the third straight time he's this set up and it's five five in the second to say that djokovic has just gone six five up in that second set a win for murray would end would continue a phenomenal season that he's having already be cheered in the year to win his

first grand slam at the u.s. open not to mention as a limpet goal he won after defeating roger federer at the london games but he's still very close murray seventy five up in the first set but it is now of peace now six five in the second. let's switch to golf where john milling that is feeling the pressure of the friday's dot com open in california the american remains on course for his maiden p.g.a. tour title but saw his four shot lead to to you on the penultimate day mullingar hit a course record of sixty two the day before but was way off that sort of form on saturday carving a seventy although this effort on the thirteenth was pretty impressive nonetheless breathing down his neck is swayed you honestly believe he shot a sixty six to move him within two shots of the lead and just a further stroke behind charles how and jason carroll i want to play for you just one more round remaining. we will end with kickboxing because moscow has hosted the seven thirty five fight a tournament where despite one victory being claimed by

a men's world champion it was two female fighters who stole the show as nick i chose reports. kick boxing fans were in for a treat as they got to witness the seventh edition of the international w y z series with the first of the three main events beginning to believe as russian. demonstrated how to put on a show with glee entrants does she want them or lucky for it beatrice never came close to million dead zero point decision is quite not fighting at. all i was really focused on the fight so i didn't really push my limits i think it performed about fifty to eighty percent of what i can do but i'm not very happy about it because to do what for whatever reason i didn't i just panicked because i didn't start the fight the way i was planning to was no i just lost focus. but the

law in much of this world and you if you more toward champion you could say to you know one bad evil as she'll say who can tell me is in this john against larkin you cry you a bunch of the better russian was in control from the start but despite heavy pressure on you managed to hold on until the end of one thirty four one three rounds in the school called to victory to have everyone watching just hope it's really hard because a streak we might have a fight right this way have claim on my wall in your opinion we need to spit on this i can use my album or a kick that i'm with you i use the last three weeks you can play with me realize my tactics all you want. me to be getting and there is still a lot of work to do. and in the last fight of the night for more world champion majesty for sure please dutchman. who was saved by the bell in the first round but the ukrainian finished the job early on the second inflicting their first defeat in

russia on his opponent while clinching a poem for that second one ounce of cheer from his visits to the country. going to long in the first round i felt he was scared so i started to pick on him and also he didn't keep his own horn and i noticed that he does this when i watch videos of his points so i focused on this and it seems to have worked out. another victory for the twenty year old. the many were left waiting in anticipation for the next. one will could be from being the ladies' night new camacho's ball team. that is a. couple last time coming up short he said. i mean so but normally a city in europe and a host of a twenty four team which are the pick a. seat. thank you. so

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