commissioner if any country were run by if supreme power wielded by twenty seven people were immune to the ballot box that would be regarded as an outrage. and yet the people who talk most fervently about turning the e.u. into something like a super state are remarkably relaxed about the undemocratic nature of it and from that basic lack of democracy you get the contempt for popular opinion you get the way the slide referendum results if they go the wrong way and you get a sense that public opinion is an obstacle to overcome rather than a reason to change direction it is an extraordinary and sad paradox that twenty seven countries each of them a liberal parliamentary democracy in its own right have come together and accepted a system that would make zimbabwe look democratic and how did that happen exactly was this kind of creeping takeover by technocrats i think the origins actually go back to the very beginning of the european union the founding fathers had had

a very mixed experience of democracy is specially of the referendum plebiscite re kind of numb ocracy that existed in the one nine hundred thirty s. they sort of mock or see as opposed to i would go so far so they were anti democratic but they saw it is a potentially dangerous force that could lead to demagoguery to fascism and to war and so they were quite open about deliberately vesting supreme power in the hands of why technocratic experts who wouldn't have to worry about public opinion would be able to take the tough decisions and of course you know there is no such person as the wise disinterested expert they all have their prejudices they all have their assumptions and freed from the constraints of public opinion they were able to get on with creating an almost autocratic system which has stayed in large measure in place to this day which is why you know when people vote against it that is seen as the beginning of the argument rather than as it would be in a proper democracy the end of the argument you've recently released

a book under the title a day marriage which is about the relationship between the e.u. and the u.k. why did you decide to use the subsidies britain in europe is not a is not a. for marriage guidance peace although well it's an interesting one i read the review of a work by a marriage guidance counselor i didn't read the book but i read the review said something fascinating. it said that a relationship can take a lot of arguing that rouser not a bad thing because if you are arguing with your husband or wife it suggests that you care enough about his or her view that you want to change it it's when the rowels give way to contempt when the stormy sessions fall silent and give way to scorn the relationship is over and i think something similar has happened even in the time that i've been an m.e.p. when i was first elected constituents would write to me very angrily and say outrageous that the budget is an approved outrage is that all the money is being spent on these agricultural and foreign aid boondoggles outrages that the system is

so undemocratic and now what you get much more often is a kind of you know what you expect the whole system is rushing and that's when you realize that the marriage is over and i think it's just a question of time and how we how we negotiate the most amicable divorce we have even gone as far as to cool the relationship between your a craps and ordinary those is abusive yes in the sense that the ordinary vote if you like or the vote i mean will not go in the order of the vote is seen as an inconvenience is seen as a problem you know when i think back to the way in which the french and dutch referendums were greeted six years ago. every single speaker with two exceptions in the entire european parliament stood up to say how do we get around this problem you know why did they get it wrong how do we how do we really educate voters you know i was reminded of those that eerie poem by bertold brecht where he says wouldn't it therefore be easier to dissolve the people and elect another in their place and that it didn't occur to anybody that the people have spoken and that

therefore the politicians should listen talk to me about your assertion that it was brussels backed coups that toppled george papandreou in greece and still there there is going in italy what proof do you have that well in two countries a elected prime minister was removed from office and replaced with a technocrat who had never stood for office in his life not just a technocrat for your account in greece it was the former head of the euro the former vice president of european central bank in italy it was a former european commissioner mario monti who as well as appointing yourself as prime minister appoint himself finance minister giving a whole new meaning to the phrase the full monty and didn't have a single elected doesn't have a single elected politician in the italian government right now both in the case of the property most administrations in greece and the monti administration initially we were told that these were national governments that was the phrase used and yet the whole purpose of these governments was to push through

a program that would be rejected by the nation in a general election so if you like the the the last shreds of pretense were said to the velvet glove was taken off of the iron fist underneath which i'm sure you then have what was always implicit but is now explicit which is apparatchiks in brussels ruling directly through apparatchiks in rome and in athens with the people and their elected representatives cut out altogether i saw last week that mario monti said he might seek a second term i don't remember him seeking a first from your description it sounds terrifying easy for brussels today that. step see you're across have to take these were civilian jumpers ok it is true that the letter of constitutional propriety was observed in the sense that the parliament in both cases indorse the new government that's the case with every dictatorship starting from the podium they always manage to get the parliamentary vote in their favor the reality is that we're dealing with administrations that

have been imposed on countries because keeping those countries in the your was thought to be more important than allowing them to vote for the policies they want we do appear to be drawing nearer to a referendum on whether the u.k. should stay in the european union what would it take do you think for the government to take that final step well politicians in my experience feel the heat before they see the light i don't think any political party likes referendums to be honest because politicians are instinctively mistrustful of a process whose outcome they can't control nonetheless they all see that there is big public demand people want to be consulted they feel that it's a huge issue you know what country you want to belong to and that it's insulting and wrong not to allow people the referendum which all three parties were recently promising and all three have managed to draw back from i'll go so far as to say that the party which gets there first will probably win the next election the people who feel strongly about this may be a minority but they are not an insignificant minority and it's a vote determining issue for

a chunk of the electorate. and so. that's almost i suppose like a kind of game theory like a prisoner's dilemma my the party desperately wants a referendum but mother can afford to let the other get there first what kind of referendum dean supporters simple in or out or a more complex construct i think ultimately they will have to be an in out referendum i think is the only one that makes sense you can't offer people something that you haven't yet negotiated or something that isn't in your gift to deliver i mean if you had a referendum and said wouldn't it be great if we opted out of all the following areas but remained in the free market will you know idea whether the e.u. is going to give you that and so you that that's a meaningless question unless the renegotiation has already been completed by then and that's how i think it it should happen let me be is generous as i can do people want to stay in and it's fair about this is like. if the problem is timing and what is going to emerge from the eurozone crisis because that's what we're told no one now admits to being against

a referendum in principle what they're what they're now saying is now isn't the right time we've got to see what emerges fine if that's the case then pre-announce now and pretty legislate now for a referendum to take place in let's say twenty sixteen ok that's plenty of time you've then got four years you supporters of membership to come back with a deal that you reckon you can sell to the british people. and the fact that you preannounced that referendum means that all of the other member states also understand that if you don't get the deal that you can sell to the country the alternative is that we leave and we negotiate something differently from the outside i think if you did that then it is even possible that you could succeed in getting something along the lines of the swiss deal without calling it leaving i mean if it then becomes a presentational question whether you call it associate membership or whatever but what is absolutely certain is that if our own civil servants and if the other member states do not understand that it's either a renegotiation or exit there will be no significant improvement in our terms of membership what about was all three parties saying and they which is you know we've

got this crisis going on our main priority should be to reduce the deficit we don't have the time with inclination now to talk about having me referendum is wonderful isn't it we were told for twenty years that now was not the right time for a referendum because europe wasn't an issue and now we're told now it's a wrong time because europe is an issue you know the eurozone crisis and all this i mean it's the ultimate yes minister argument you know perfectly good idea in principle minnesota perhaps now is not the most propitious occasion if not now when you know the eurozone crisis has wrecked the premise on which we joined it's falsified our membership terms europe is collapsing as a share of our exports the rest of the world is increasing almost by the minute as a share of our trade. the reason that we went in in the first place in the early seventy's in the argument i've been deployed for nearly forty years has now been made redundant by the collapse of the eurozone economy and the mulish insistence of the euro zone governments on accelerating all the policies that have created the

crisis that now is the time for us to raise our eyes to more distant horizons and reimburse the wider world daniel had on thank you very much thank you. as his day starts at five am even earlier in the winter tending to his flock of story hundred sheep in the mountains and plains of t.v. thirty five years old it wasn't the life he dreamt of having studied accounting but you dition unfamiliar with duty dictated that he would take on the care of these animals after his father has just made camp at their winter farm stage setting up his ute judicial to fenian round tent made of diskin. his beastly back amongst his family as his job is a lonely one and tough going out in all weathers braving streams of plus to minus

forty degrees celsius just that on his them there are certain difficulties there's not enough time for everything i'm almost alone my sister works with my mother my mother is seventy five she's very old and i miss mountains when i'm in town and i spend a lot of time here. so all most of us is simply carrying out the work that his father did and his father before him nothing has changed over many many centuries and that's half the problem it's hard work and many people don't want to come into the industry now and that's where they fit their could die out altogether. and it's difficult to manage everything alone i used to have people who helped me but they were no good they didn't take care of the sheep with all their hearts they hurt the cattle dogs. with people leaving them coming to the countryside the region's government is having to act making the life of a herd and more attractive than promising largest subsidies for produce and livestock and organizing cooperatives for the sale of day put out to ensure the

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their cathedral stopped. the weekend sports update is next with kate. hello welcome to the latest polls here of the top stories. the boston novak djokovic saves a five match points before ending the memories two year run as champion with a thrilling muftis final victory in shanghai. while top of the world sebastian vettel produces a dominant victory in the korean grand prix overtaking on the long zone at the top of the drivers' championship for all races to go. down from four fabio capello's russia to keep up their one hundred percent record of the group at leaders prepared to host azerbaijan in the world cup qualifier on the choose day. but first a tennis where second seed novak djokovic saved five match points before overcoming

twice defending champion andy murray to win a thrilling shanghai masters final last month murray had prevailed in an epic u.s. open final between the two this time with the scotsman who also took the cecil seventy five job which lost his temper after a blunder in that but the serbian regained his composure to put a nail biting tie break even the second eventually wanted thirteen eleven mari himself and four took a couple of points to the side but still lost six three it almost three and a half hours to suffer first defeat in shanghai over three years of torment australian open champion djokovic shifted his fifth trophy at the season and second in a row in the east this time. there could have gone either way really i cannot say. dominated the match because all three sets were very close and he had so many match points and opportunities to finish the match so i could have easily been a runner up today but. i'm very proud of my fight and believing and you know

coming back from for match points down and winning this match. now on to formula one and defending champion sebastian vettel has clinched a dominant victory at the korean grand prix to overtake ferrari's fernando alonso at the top of the driver's standings with four races to go the german started second behind red bull team mate mark webber but he took the lead early on and eventually won by an eight second margin to claim his fluid win in a row and become the first driver to win four races this season while webber was second one along as i took photos with sation singer p.s.y. using the checkered flag. well that is now six points clear of alonzo in the drivers' championship with a maximum one hundred points available from the remaining four races in india abu dhabi the usa and brazil as the red bull driver aims for his third consecutive title. we had a good last couple races but you know we've seen the championship is pretty much

all going down a lot of things are going to happen so what do we do i think we have to focus on ourselves you know we need to have our best possible results and then we go from there at the end of the year. if we have enough points there's a lot of people telling us so we don't have to do the mathematics ourselves now things are also starting up in the motor g.p. title race spiny done to produce a claim victory in japan on his phone that overtaking championship leader gave the reins of thirteen months to go to ensure the yamaha man finished second. crutchlow completed the podium we've addressed that is now twenty eight points behind lorenzo in the overall standings with three races to go. under football now in russia defend the vessel but as a ski says his side should be wary of a well rested azerbaijan side in the next world cup qualifier at the stadium on choose day russia has held an open training session here in moscow and manager fabio capello is looking to maintain his one hundred percent competitive record after the national side have won all three of their qualifying matches so far

scoring seven goals and conceding known to secure top spot in group f. . well russia are three points clear of christiane iran are those portugal whom they beat one nil also in moscow on thursday but russia's next opponents azerbaijan didn't play this week and they also managed to get portugal a beta sixty four minutes before leaking three goals in their three nil defeat in the broader last month. now with sixteen months to go until the sochi winter olympics i.o.c. supreme lord kelly believes these will be a games to remember as the triple a big screen champion told our own robert. a great challenge for a big country in twenty fourteen this russian city of sochi will host the first winter olympics in the country's history. it is to be a well known seaside town but now with massive olympic preparations the future of the city itself is under construction benefits of having had the games will be

there for ever in my opinion so it's a it's a it's a chance for this region today everyone in the world knows where searching is on the map i believe it's almost unique in the world because you have trees where the hockey tournament is going to be played and then twenty five minutes later by train you are in a fabulous ski resort this is very specific it's the sounds of russia it's very comparable to a place like this in france where you swim in the morning you wear your skin the morning and swim in the afternoon after a one hour car drive and the world we know about it very soon holding the winter olympics in the southern climate is what makes the sochi games so special and so challenging three time olympic alpine ski jumping and currently the chairman of the olympic ordination commission is uncle kili is sure winter will

be there as soon as it's needed even despite the fact this could be the hottest winter olympics ever snow is going to be made whenever it's possible. and today you can stall keep the snow and the protection during the summer and then use it for example in the ski jump you can use it whenever you you want or need it. obviously that's the lessons from vancouver the so she games are also set to create some brand new experiences in olympic history something to make them truly unique. most compact games ever most athletes skiers we go down out of the chalet put their skis on and they are hockey player we walk to the ring as skaters. which is incredible. i don't think we have we have ever had that before while the sochi twenty fourteen

official slogan was also revealed only twenty fifth of september hot to us i think it is terrific absolutely terrific because it's. it's a winter summer. yours it's north south it's. snow ice and yours and it's. i think it's one way to say the rest of the world is going to be will come. to searching in your office that's a gift form of worship to the rest of the world and the best present would be for russia to do their first winter olympics into the best games ever robert brilliant forty. and finally let's talk about kickboxing as moscow is hosting the seven w five fight a tournament where despite one victory being claimed by a men's world champion it was two female fighters who stole the show as they like

charles reports. keep boxing fans were in for a treat as they got to witness the seventh edition of the international w five wired to series with the first of the three main events beginning dramatically as abortion. demonstrated how to put on a show with her lively entrance though she won them more loci for it by beating slovakian darrell zero point decision despite not fighting at her best. because i wasn't really focused on the fight so i didn't really push my limits i think i've performed about fifty to eighty percent of what i can do i'm not very happy about it because you told me what to do but for whatever reason i didn't i just paranoia act because i didn't start the fight the way i was planning to so i just lost focus but stealing the limelight was world and european my time champion

you could say to you no one died over as she also proved to dominance in this john against slovakia nuclear you a bunch of the better russian was in control from the start but despite heavy pressure her opponent managed to hold on until the end of one by one all three rounds in the score card to add another victory to her name which it's really hard because i'm strickly might a fighter and that's why i have claimed all my wall in european winning records but in this fight i can use my elbows or a kick that i'm used to it i use the last three weeks you completely lies my tactics overall it worked out better than only the beginning and there is still a lot of work to do. and in the last fight of the night former world champion legislator corso bleached dutchman leonardo tom. it was saved by the bell in the first round but the ukrainian finished the job early in the second inflicting a first defeat in russia on his opponent while clinch a confident secure when ounce of two from his visits to the country going along in

the first round i felt he was scared so i started to pick on him and also he didn't keep his own is up high enough i notice that he does this when i watch videos of his fights so i focused on this and it seems to have worked out so another victory for the twenty year old forwards are there many were left waiting in anticipation for the next bout and what could pull billy have been called ladies' night nicolo chose on team oscar. that's almost bought. by horse. by tractor. by car for the road ends. as a carpenter. as

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