tv [untitled] October 17, 2012 4:00pm-4:30pm EDT
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for the market for. the moment you. watch while president obama and governor romney prepared for last night's spectacle the green party candidate a woman who's on the ballot in eighty five percent of the states this november was arrested for trying to join in on the debate so why didn't anyone hear about that story and why our third party candidates constantly spoke to the sun. i want to point out that i don't believe. i don't believe i'm sure they're trying to preserve what we're going to try to do givers are all working and there was
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a little bit of everything in last night's contest laughter name calling and shameless interruptions for the two contenders trying to outspend out smart and out talk their opponent had will ask if the twenty twelve election is turning into a reality show. with both cooper women. voted for. and that's more than the u.s. government can say it's done it's been more than a year since the occupy movement flared up there's change from a protest against corporate corruption to a nationwide rally and now it's going through another metamorphosis we'll tell you all about the changing face of this occupation. it is wednesday october seventeenth four pm in washington d.c. i'm christine for his hour and you're watching our t.v. let's start off by talking about last night's debate well sort of if you've been listening to the spin. and you're probably hearing
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a lot about romney's rage obama's obvious cations and about the latest trends on twitter like binders full of women but what almost no one is talking about is the fact that a presidential candidate and her vice presidential running mate were actually arrested outside of the debate jill stein and sherry honk a lot of the green party spoke about what they see as a corporate excuse me a corrupt political system and later were taken into custody for blocking traffic take a look at me take that democracy start. going out with debates for every single political party in the united states of america to be a part of the banks just them not just corporate america sponsored debate blocking traffic on tuesday it's our personal rights i think you are going to mark. the moment you. watch them play the. people that are doing something that. well we do want to talk more about this green party vice
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presidential nominee cheri hunka joins me now to tell me more about what happened yesterday and also what pictures this paints on a larger scale sherry thanks so much for being on the show take me back first to that moment why were you arrested jill and i had decided to go before the c.p.d. we wanted to go in running eighty five percent of the ballots in this country and so we thought it would should be up to the american people so that they could listen to us and decide who they wanted to have as their president and their vice president that democracy was taken away from us so we wanted to go down and march into the c.p.d. and have our voices be heard tell me a little bit about what happened when you try to do that. well we went down there we didn't block traffic we were at a standstill because we were greeted by tons of officers who did not let us go we end the c.p.d. did not let us talk to somebody from the c.p.a.
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and so we were arrested by the police officers and then we were taken by secret service to a secret location and we were handcuffed to metal chairs for eight hours both of our hands in a very cold warehouse i said you say eight hours and hours you were held in this warehouse what was the reasoning for keeping you about long. i have no idea i know that jill and i were there with no other prisoners for about seven hours with about thirteen officers and about two or three represents then. there's something the secret service. exists we will watch could see through to the separate room and it just seemed like oh absolutely stuffed taxpayers' dollars homeland security is continuing to be used
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to preempt the civil liberties of people here in this country and we really need to be a part of the debates because we don't have the billions of dollars that both the democrats and the republicans have and we've done our homework it's mathematically possible for dr jill stein and i to win the presidency so we should be able to be a part of the debates really quick before we talk about some of the bigger issues here just one final question about you know you were asked what were you charged with and you know are you can have to face trial. yes we will have to face trial we were charged with disorderly conduct protests appeared at different times in my life in nonviolent civil disobedience it became very clear to the both of us that this was very political and that they wanted us to be you.
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and. if we do apologize for having a tiny bit of trouble with your audio there but it looks like it's should hold up now let's get to some of the things you and joe were speaking about before you were arrested about the system in general why is it that you think third party candidates are still kept out of these debates well first of all the c.p.p. is sponsored by ten different corporations we were happy because we saw that three sponsors had pulled out they were expecting a fourth to pull out that didn't happen yet however and again both the democrats and the republicans actually represent the one percent in this country and they know that the issues that jill and i are speaking to represent the
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majority of the american people so they didn't want us on the stage the debates here are actually like reality television so you're saying one of the problems is that these this commission on presidential debates is actually you know the debates themselves are sponsored by major corporations and that in itself is an issue perhaps that speaks to a larger problem. i think i heard your question we're having some problems with the sound here as well but jill and i talk we speak to the ninety nine percent in this country we have a program that's about eliminating student debt it's about taking money out of politics it's about making sure that everybody has access to a job it's about being climate change and it's about greening america. in terms of what happened yesterday we noticed the very few people have covered
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your arrests you know a.b.c. had a blurb on their political blog c.n.n. political ticker had something and then a mention on fox news website but i've seen really nothing on t.v. and really no larger discussions about third party candidates being left out really during this entire campaign season cheri why do you think that is well again we have a problem a small number of corporations oh i mean most of our major media outlets here in this country and we really need outside help for different international media outlets to tell the real story the american people we are fighting for democracy here it doesn't exist we do not have fair elections we need election monitors here and we need help from the international community you know it's so
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interesting so often i hear people say that when they go to the polls they're going to be voting for the candidate that they dislike the least just last question for you sure i mean what do you think it would mean to have i mean obviously you guys are on the ballot in the majority of places but not really considered viable candidates what do you think it would mean if the system changed so that it wasn't always down to the same two parties. well not only would dr democracy come to america if the american people were able to hear about jill and i again they're going to have an opportunity to vote for us because we're eighty percent eighty five percent of the population can vote for us but not only people in the u.s. would benefit but people throughout the entire world because no longer would we have a foreign policy that would be about bombing and killing people in other parts of the world just for oil and for the one percent so the international community would
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benefit as well from our foreign policy which would be about other countries need to police their own countries work on their own democracies we need to bring democracy back here to the united states we need access to the media and we need fair elections and fair debates green party vice presidential nominee sherry hunk thanks so much for talking to us thanks christine well of course there was also about debate last night the second of three presidential debates it took place at hofstra university in long island new york a town hall style debate in which audience members were able to ask the candidates the questions and this was a very different format with the candidates sitting standing at times even almost getting in one another's faces there are some who even like and what they saw to a reality show where the more drama and yelling and bickering the better. governor romney they'll be plenty of chances here to go on but i want to hear what all these elites trying to add detroit answer and the rest of the answer pushing for oil and
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gas and coal you'll get your chance in a moment i'm still speaking and the answer is i don't believe people there has a case because i'm that wasn't a question ok i got it i got to move you on it in the first question we actually got to actually get the first question so i get the last question in atlanta governor i got it i got it i mean i have you both have i understand the stakes here i'm going to get both of you i think i was supposed to get that last answer but i want to point out that i don't believe it's ok and i don't believe i'm sure are at a time of papers are going to mr president if you looked at your pension have you looked at your pension i've got to say mr president you look at your pension you know i don't look at my pension is not as big as yours let's make it so is politics following a popular path to become modern day made for t.v. r t correspondent on the stump takes a deeper look i'm sorry we play the blame game in full swing why didn't you call me when you were working on this thing finger pointing p did make it worse mocking
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he even called it marvelous which is a word you don't often hear when it comes to describing a budget a tax this president's a lightweight we've all agreed that families are off limits dogs are apparently fair game what you're seeing is them finally rising up to the level of professional wrestling and i say rising up to it because in pro wrestling in front of the cameras we all hate each other behind the scenes it's a business. and that's the same way it is for them it's a sham a sham largely compared to reality television survivor style started out eliminating contestants on the island and then event they have to form alliances you can call those parties and then they finally in the grand. you have to survivors to go ahead and they and that video gets the big just the big prize the
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big prize for years to run the united states of america the contestants are giving it their all to win the competition the concept of a reality show we all know is supposed to be some kind of reality but but in reality it's just really made for t.v. and the presidential campaigns in the us are completely made for t.v. like in any major production a huge crew and big box run the game if they have people determine what a guy is going to wear what kind of haircut how much makeup you know there's a list of too many for a lot of people to get rich from looks to comments and statements most of the election campaign is scripted. the mainstream media following the presidential campaigns eats the show right up one example i'm going to stop the subsidy to p.b.s. i'm going to stop other things i like p.b.s. i love big bird the debates the erst us presidential debate as well on a. million that makes it the most successful most reality show
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her while fact checking leaves the building. and. track record about x. . you're. right i'm. spreading a giant welcome mat for trivialized news coverage is romney hurting obama's feelings as obama hurting his feelings are they being cordial to each other or are they being angry look at the way obama looks up and looks down the show must go on . until the curtains are drawn presidential candidates putting on a performance to be voted into the white house the superficial media paying little attention to the actual words being said and not demanding to hear the words that should matter as the u.s. election enters its closing act and look to tame and remains king and politics not much more than a circus and as the citric in our party. switching gears now the occupy wall street
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movement is still alive but no one can deny it's changed its tactics and style of it since it first began thirteen months ago today we're going to focus today on the occupy movement in los angeles r.t. was there there on the first day of their occupation and also saw that military style raid which shut down one of the nation's largest encampments while the movement has fractured a bit but the loyal group continues to fight big banks and is seeing some success in standing up for troubled homeowners artie's from england oh has that story. you know no. more than a year after it kicked off its movement in los angeles occupy allays alive and well but in much smaller numbers. the tents which once dominated the landscape of downtown gone but have popped up in backyards of struggling homeowners
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with their keeper a woman has done for me is keep me in my home for thirty four days he had known this family was swept up in the mortgage crisis and is now facing eviction occupiers have set up barricades around the house now for now and is going to defend their home while the family battles with bank of america shows the meaning of people power the law enforcement is not on our side as well so if you have if you have people power and you have community support. you should you should reach out to them you should reach out to them and get a get together from the lawn in front of l.a. city hall to this foreclosed home in the san fernando valley the face of occupy and southern california has greatly transformed in the past year but the spirit of resistance remains strong among those who say they're still fighting for the ninety nine percent this is a comic war like that's what drives me to be here is not just about say one house. with. occupy l.a.
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started in a bus that matters and was unique in how protesters had a cozy relationship with police. i whatever local politicians grew tired of the demonstration and showed they were willing to use a massive police response to shut down the peaceful movement the military style raid on occupy a lazing drove away protesters but radicalized others who are determined more than ever to fight repressive forces when you have that kind of systematic institutionalized abuse of people expressing their first amendment rights it doesn't shut it down it fuels it sam slovik is an independent journalist who has been documenting occupy l.a. throughout you observed how the movements inclusiveness allowed elements in which cause conflict while occupy l.a. has broken up into several community entities it's still celebrates small victories . but. impassioned occupiers helped pressure l.a.
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to pass a responsible banking ordinance occupy the hood and other splinter groups have advocated for the rights of the homeless on skid row. they've also teamed up with progressive groups to help save homeowners from me the question this again is the current evolution this is the edge of it this is a foreclosure resistance action and it's. ported by occupiers as the movement evolves this family is determined to keep their dream no way shouldn't allow it to happen you can always show resistance. in los angeles. one of the things that's come out of the occupy movement is increased attention and information on the use of force by police departments around the country there are going to slew of incidents involving occupy activists
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and really activists in general given harsh treatment by police sprayed with pepper spray from just inches away also violently for peacefully protesting now there has also been a growing trend of police targeting an artists and putting them in jail three people in the pacific northwest were subpoenaed to testify before a grand jury following f.b.i. and joint terrorism task force raids they were arrested for civil contempt and they are catherine k.t.o. logy from olympia washington fathi drown also from libya and most recently it was layla lim plant from seattle here she is making a video statement that's been posted online. f.b.i. agents from around washington oregon and joint terrorism task force agents from washington busted down the front door of my house with a battering ram pickup my housemates and me a gunpoint and held us hostage in our backyard while they wrote us a search warrant and ransacked our home they said it was in connection to made a vandalism that occurred in seattle washington earlier this year however we
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suspected that this was not really about broken windows as if they had taken pointers from orwell's one thousand nine hundred four they took books are working in other various literature as evidence as well as many other personal belongings even though they seem to know that nobody there was even in seattle on matey. well we want to talk more about this so joining me now is our team web producer andrew blake he's been covering this for quite a long time obviously these raids happened back in july and the three people who were arrested were arrested because they refused to testify before a grand jury they gave i think their names and dates and that was it and i mean that's all they really have to do and on that note the federal authorities can hold you if you refuse to comply with a grand jury investigation they can leave you locked up until the investigation is over and done with and we heard from we are right there in the video and she says she feels like this wasn't about a bunch of broken windows and that the authorities seem to even know that she
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wasn't at the meeting she was sure her house was raided i believe july twenty fifth is when the joint terrorism task force came in the f.b.i. several coordinated raids across the pacific northwest and they came in they looked for anarchist literature they looked for fleg black clothing which would make me an anarchist right now but at the time the search warrant said that they were being investigated in part at least for these maybe the first protest in seattle and yet exactly she said you know we weren't even there and since then she's filed a freedom of information act requests to find out that the grand jury actually first convened months earlier before it was made a protest even happened so these people have reason to believe that this isn't more this is more than just an investigation into these acts of violence but is actually an investigation to ideology yeah you have the search warrant also i think said that it identified an anti government or an archivist literature. to talk a little bit about i mean what does this mean it means that if you own a book you can have the cops bust down your door and hold you at gunpoint and take
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all of your possessions which i thought was actually really funny because i was working on the story last week we first broke it and in addition to were you know i guess i'm a terrorist i actually had a copy of everything you wanted to know about anarchism on my desk i would say the . the cameras this is on andrew's desk but let's see what else i know you have some other things on your desk i have this over one hundred fifty great pizza jokes. here's my complete book of zingers ok so between the three of these i guess i could be an anarchist a lot but that's really all it takes if the f.b.i. is going to say well we're looking for literature and we're going to look for computers and we're going to look for your black clothing and we're going to look for flag making material that yeah this is what they did they came in they file the search warrants detained everyone waited a few months in these grand jury. began and leo was the third person who said i'm not going to testify i'm not going to go up there and be quizzed about my own
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personal beliefs i'm not going to talk about my friend's personal believes and i'm going to remain silent because i think this is a politically motivated witch hunt that's being used to chill describe anarchists you know it's interesting to me i know you're not a legal scholar and you're but but was liable can't you know the fifth amendment protections are used in the case of a grand jury well the whole purpose of a grand jury of course is you know to bring in a larger panel maybe up to twenty six people i believe to come in and hear a federal prosecutor district attorney go ahead and present evidence quiz people and try to get enough information to actually file a federal indictment against someone so in cases like this they really can't go ahead and get the wheels moving to file that indictment if they don't have the evidence so if someone refuses to testify they are actually legally allowed to hold them for in this case it could be up to eighteen months in an attempt to kind of coax them into coming out in agreeing to testify which they don't have to do leah
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and her two colleagues can actually remain in prison for the next six months if they if they choose to remain silent and it looks like they they all do they're all writing letters from prison they seem relatively content given the circumstances and i was reading that matthew duran i don't know if you have to chip in the things around was actually put in so. solitary for a little while yet he was put in solitary confinement couldn't find the exact reasoning for that but. so matthew was raided forced to go speak before a federal commission about his personal beliefs and then when he told him he wouldn't they locked him up and put him in a tiny room for. and we should mention that what happened in the pacific northwest is part of sort of a growing trend we show this occupy a sort of anniversary story and i remember i interviewed a guy whose house was raided philip neal his house was raided after occupy seattle i just want to play a little bit of what he had to say. basically i woke up to the sound of the flash thing going on. as you know just enough time to jump out of little clothing on and
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put our hands behind our heads and then the swat team their automatic guns drawn have been pointed out our backs time will be searched the house clearly disconcertingly to wake up in the morning so we've got an hour cast we've got occupy activists being raided. why it's you know sort of the take away here that you're not safe in your own beliefs or your own actions or even your own possessions whether it's an anarchist literature or a book of pizza jokes and we saw the same thing last year there was a secret grand jury was convened to investigate leaks and david house a member of the bradley manning support network was testified to go rather subpoenaed to go before them and he did the same thing the courts did he gave his name he gave his birth date and nothing else in al. case she was asked to testify
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twice more and both times she refused so this is happening across the country for anyone who exercising or at least being accused of exercising any sort of belief that does not sit well with the federal government would appear whether an occupier an anarchist or just interested in free information and it's really unfortunate but it's happening and thankfully we can least come on air and talk about what people here because as a lot of people just really are not discussing this appreciate your time i know you've been kind of covering this that for months now r t well producer andrew black thanks so much. well capital account is up next on our t.v. let's check in with lauren lister to see what's on the agenda lauren it's wednesday what's going on well christine i just heard you talking about an hour actually we'll be talking to one on our show as well an anarcho capitalist more and more of them seem to be coming out of the woodworks or at least having a higher profile maybe you could blame it on the fact that washington can't get anything together in terms of a solution to major economic problems and that free markets don't even really seem
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to be part of the choice these days when you're talking about the conventional economic wisdom on capitol hill and with the political elite so we will hear from our guest all about why this is a viable philosophy and what was missing from the debate last night looking at the economy christine. we'll keep watching and before we go here we have a quick announcement for you are to international has been named a finalist for the association for international broadcasting awards two programs a documentary feature and a science program have been nominated artie's technology update titled new siberian tech is a finalist in the best science program category and archie inflight with arrows masters a documentary feature on the legendary pilot group ross by correspondent tom barton has been nominated the best short report category our team will be competing against entries from twenty three countries including the b.b.c. c.b.s. news a.b.c. news and france twenty four and that ceremony will be held on november seventh in
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