tv [untitled] October 19, 2012 6:00pm-6:30pm EDT
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here is mitt romney trying to figure out the name of that thing that we americans call a dollar. i'm sorry i'm just a guy who cares an awful lot about my country you sir are a fool you know what kind is my other terror cells in your neighborhood all want to see you wishing to feature in the me on the liberal and the christian. can still be civil to the.
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what's going on i'm abby martin you've got a great show planned for you today person to talk to r.g.p. producer i'm here david about the question of sexism in the mainstream and let's talk about president obama's appearance on the daily show with jon stewart late last night how much influence that show really has on the voters also charged chat with mark millar professor and author of ford again a real case for electoral reform what it takes to steal an election so stick around on straight to set. so at the last presidential debate mitt romney went to bat for women's equality case you missed it this is how he did it. to a number of women's groups and said can you help us find folks and they brought us whole binders full of women you know whose idea of helping women didn't have
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positions of power so the talk a little bit more about that in the issue of sexism in the mainstream i'm joined by our two producer here david. so what do you think about this is this binder gaffe first of all i have to say i think the only winner in the aftermath of this comment is the binder industry and i think that they got you a few more sales this past week but honestly it's it's obviously atrocious and the really you know big thing that people are talking about is that it's not even true because he didn't really go and seek out these women or what happened i think that what happened was they found out that he didn't have any representation that massachusetts did not have any representation in the higher positions and women came to him and said look you need to implement people corporate women into the administration and that's when they brought suggestions well let's also talk about another issue just sexism in general kind of permeated in the mainstream this past week new york times magazine columnist andrew goldman got to a twitter war with an author jennifer weiner ultimately said to her he said the little four to me thinks that you would have liked at least to have had the
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opportunity to sleep your way to the top i mean what do you think about this word two thousand and twelve and we're still seeing this kind of i envisioned history i was shocked when i saw it but i think what it really says is that you know these little slip ups we think it's just you know it's just a mistake that he said something like that you know he was on twitter you know just let it go really what it says is that people are inherently sexist there are a lot of men that are inherently sexist and really you know just because we're in two thousand and twelve maybe it's a little less socially acceptable to be outwardly resists but it's inherent and it's still very much there yeah and it also kind of goes into women also perpetuating this kind of massaging and victimizing themselves and i just saw a daily mail i. article where the sex call in this is basically saying that women don't worry any more if you sleep with a guy in the first day they might still love you in the long run right even so the long term relationship i mean what does it really kind of dovetails into what i when i look at cosmopolitan magazine it's all about you know we went from the
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fifty's which is how to be a good wife how to you know provide for your husband now it's how to please your husband in eighty seven eighty seven ways to make her a man or a guy than a magazine five ways to kiss an economy and everything learned in twelve love lives a termed a must for sex to a subsidy but kiss a man they did twenty five ways i are trying not to use that everything that's retiring on mainstream news all the time on the show what rights of mainstream news the corporate controlled you get this is the corporate controlled entertainment industry and with women you know in a very impressionable age between the ages of what maybe sixteen they start picking up magazines sixteen to all the way to thirty five are reading these magazines are listening to those the surveys and you know it's really you know feeding into this already existing narrative you know when i when i think about this i also think about one of the biggest selling novels fifty shades of grey i'm sure you heard of it and it's all about this twisted relationship about this sexy like dominating man you know really going after this sort of subservient shy innocent girl that i was
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her people say about a book actually empowers women and it's like how does it how is it empowering for women to be a sex slave for someone i really don't see how i was women what i think is does is really sort of harkens back to you know years and years ago where you know sexually men are always the dominant ones and so i kind of think that this rationale is a little bit dangerous would have what would have been really cool as if instead james the author twisted the reverse the roles and had the woman be the dominating one and the subservient one i think that would have been revolutionizing it would have been having a completely different conversation that really does you know the whole cosmos. oh and history and the whole women's just perpetuating this myth that we're victims that i mean it's ok if it's all about pleasing your man and really allowing this in this industry to perpetuate this narrative is really damaging and i think it needs to be called out more because we need to you know it's definitely permeated cross
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that word so that it every way it's cheap and we're thank you so much for coming on breaking down our david. ok so maybe you caught this last night president barack obama was on the daily show with jon stewart and you know what it's pretty funny because jon stewart and also a comedian but mostly it made me sad because millions of americans get their news almost exclusively from the show in fact more young voters tune into the daily show's coverage of republican national convention than they did fox news c.n.n. or m s n b c and stewart has been listed by newsday as one of the twenty most influential media players shaping the influence in this election so to get back to why this upsets me it's because people trust jon stewart and see him as more than
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a comedian they look at him as someone who cuts through the corporate media b.s. and not only did he not do that last night but the conversation between president obama and stewart was more of a love fest than an interview listen to the kind of responses that obama gave to his softball questions. four years ago i said on the war in iraq we did pass health care reforms make sure people don't go bankrupt when they get sick we have said that we would refocus our attention on al qaeda we have made sure that thanks yeah it is the fault of the killings of those other terrorists but honestly the whole and in the iraq war bit there's nothing really to take credit for because. troop withdrawal was a timeline that george w. bush negotiated with the iraqi parliament which was then codified by a binding agreement in fact obama worked for months to try to pressure iraq to extend the deadline to the point where u.s. military was actually kicked out and let's not forget we're not ever leaving iraq
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as long as tens of thousands of security contractors remain stationed there and moving on to the affordable care act yes great health care is now accessible to millions of americans that let's not forget that it didn't even pass with the public option which would have the most fiscally responsible thing to do it's not a surprise though when you consider who and part drafted the bill was feller former v.p. of well point one of the richest health insurance companies in america that obama brags about being so tough on al qaeda and is met with resound you know close and to see as dick cheers which is kind of unsettling when you consider is tactic drone warfare propagated across the muslim world with a ninety eight percent failure rate so i guess people are celebrating the fact that obama has set himself up as judge jury and executioner so what's next. for things that we haven't gotten done i still want to close guantanamo we have been able to get that socog. funny you say congress has blocked you but since you had
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a majority in congress your first here's an office and after that you couldn't just pass an executive order to close the torture house but you didn't yeah it's much easier to pass the buck isn't it. triggers that he put in place that people might have thought were government overreach in that and that maybe they had a mind that you would perhaps tone down well you have it well you know the truth is actually we have modified them and built. a legal structure and safeguards in place that weren't there before on a whole range of issues now that they're not real sexy issues they're not the kinds of things that you're going to. don't you don't know what i find sexy i'm still the president no i understand that. but over to the king of the drone but seriously i actually thought jon stewart was going to follow up with this uncomfortable question which is why it was so disappointing to see that he didn't obama just use the john you logic of oh yeah we dealt with our legal practices by
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creating a legal framework to justify our illegalities then he follows up by saying remember i'm the president and this isn't a sexy enough topic to talk about i guess it's not very sexy to talk about how you not only continued the bush administration's a grievous violations of civil liberties and warrantless wiretapping but expanded them all across the board. at any given time something screws up. and you make sure you find out what's broken in your fiction find out what's broken really really you know what's broken the establishment you represent sir instead of addressing the real problem of a corrupt system based on any quality and to tear justice you fight the symptoms with partisanship and reward corruption like you did with b.p. when you gave them record contracts after they poison the entire gulf or continue to employ blackwater after they lost the sleep massacred hundreds of innocent civilians in u.s. war zones so what did we learn from last night's conversation on the difference
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between the two candidates when you think about it it's it is two sides of the same coin i couldn't have said it better myself obama is right he and romney represent two sides of an imperialist corporatist coin and ideology that's running this country into the ground what's worse is that jon stewart didn't have the balls to confront obama on any of these hard truths and for those of you who think that jon stewart just a comedian check this out study is a study from indiana university show that the daily show was as substantive as network news so if you're discarding jon stewart's role in the media machine of news delivery think again and while comedy central is responded by saying that they are just a comedy show not a news show it doesn't detract from the fact that fifty percent of young people go to this program to get informed on the news here's the real point obama or any
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other politician for that matter wouldn't waste their time going on the daily show if it didn't make an impact. jon stewart has a massive platform that influences millions of people and because of this he has a civic responsibility to ask the tough questions that others won't but he won't do that because his bias is blatant he has an agenda to support the establishment and in the process he perpetuates the two party paradigm and that's a problem. now if you like what you see so far go to our youtube channel youtube dot com slash breaking the set and subscribe check out our facebook page at facebook dot com slash breaking the set also follow me on twitter at abby martin take a break from my preaching for now but stay tuned if you're out here how to steal an election how it happened before and how could easily happen again next.
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list. the united states of america a beacon of democracy well that was it was at one point at least now elections are full of fraud and burglary party delegates to voting machines they tore all college elections have become a corrupted convoluted system that's in dire need of repair so to talk more about this broken system and why the media won't touch the issue of rigged elections i'm joined now by new york university professor and author of the book fooled again the
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real case for electoral reform mark crispin miller mark thank you so much for taking the time to come on well thank you for having me on every so what the elections coming up in less than a month i wanted to dig right into election fraud which you've covered extensively through your research you said that the republican establishment media doesn't address the issue but they fail turn of media goes out of their way to debunk the issue of rigged elections so why is this such a taboo issue across the board well i don't know that's a very very good question in a way that's the question why does the press including the progressive media consistently either ignore or debunk. very solidly based arguments and even observations about stolen elections why does the democratic party also refuse to discuss the issue even though they're the ones who are getting screwed by this i don't know we could speculate about it it's probably something we should discuss in a whole separate segment but the fact is that it is a taboo subject despite
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a massive amount of very very precise evidence making quite clear that our elections have been stolen mostly by the republican party since two thousand through a combination of vote suppression which is disenfranchising people before election day and then election fraud through electronic means which is something actually new in the history of election chicanery in the united states so you also you just mentioned you know it's a. the republican establishment kind of rigging these elections i mean i remember in two thousand and four the exit polls flipping after bush went in kerry said we have lawyers on the ground in ohio we count every vote and then he gives this concession speech and you said yourself kerry acknowledged that the election was stolen so why mark why did kerry take a dive gore take a dive i mean they want to win right i mean a point pelicans of dollars into these campaigns doesn't this suggest that they're complicit in this establishment line as well and they're. in
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a way they're complicit but i think in the case of gore and kerry their complicity is a matter of a certain kind of a stablish military and mindset you know. we have heard that gore had a conversation with jesse jackson about the question of whether or not the two thousand election have been stolen and he is reported to have said to jackson well if if this is all true and if it was stolen there's really no alternative to revolution well i don't think al gore is a revolutionary neither is john kerry i mean he's you know got more money than thanks to his marriage these guys are our seasoned inside players in d.c. so that when they're confronted with with evidence of something as as profoundly scandalous and and and really disorienting as the subversion of the election system
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i think they can't go there they're simply not able to go there now there are democrats who who are clearly complicit because the big huge private companies that that own and maintain the electronic voting systems spread their money around you know to members of both parties so i don't think there's a one size fits all explanation for this silence you know whether that's just psychological denial whether it's complicity whatever it is i think we have to agree you know that. the election system at the very least needs to be radically reformed reformed and a kind of revolutionary way. if only because there's no doubt that the election system could be. subverted could our elections could be rigged and on this nobody disagrees we've had studies from you know a whole range of universities from the government itself pretty much everybody
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agrees that our our computerized election system is very very easy to manipulate extremely easy to manipulate. where it gets to the point where folks don't want to talk about it is when you come up with evidence that it has been used to manipulate elections and is being used to manipulate elections at that point people accuse you of conspiracy theory and change the subject and they will talk about vote suppression voter id requirements and things like that they will talk about citizens united they'll talk about the floods of campaign contributions that are being used to you know sort of wash away any kind of rational political discourse these are important subjects don't get me wrong but to talk only about them and to ignore the facts of electronic election fraud is is is to leave us extremely vulnerable as a democracy yeah i mean it's the elephant in the room mark like you just said we
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talk about all the things that have to do with elections the mainstream media twenty four seven this whole charade and the scripted conventions in the debates and all the while i mean this is them is rigged from the top down i wanted to talk about just the corporate back to status candidates the corporate controlled media does disseminating the message and marginalizing alternatives to the ballot boxes to the voting machines and then to the electoral college itself i mean what do you think about having a system in place as rigged voting aside a regular trial. machines aside that you can win a popular vote but lose the election what they like troll college what do you think about just die well that look i mean if you if you look back the history of elections in the united states you can see that it from the beginning of this been a strong. animists against the enfranchise moment of the people you know i mean we call ourselves a democracy but we've become a democracy really in spite of the preferences of the founding fathers the
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electoral college is one of many ways in which the system has been rigged against popular self-government that's a fact and it's also true that there are way too many profound similarities between the two political parties that's all true however i think we have to understand that the republican party today is basically in the hands of an extremely radical minority of very very wealthy people who are mostly radical libertarians and that there's also. a considerable component of the sea a craddick christian ists who frighteningly enough have their hands on the very few huge private companies that manufacture and maintain our voting system.
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and i could get into details about this let me make the general point that when you start to realize that there is a kind of extremist faction that has a lot of influence on the outcome of our elections you realize that it's not necessarily helpful simply to emphasize the deep similarity between the two political parties that is a fact they are all too similar but we're also talking about something else sure. differences that there are differences between the parties if for example al gore had been allowed to serve as president and by the way most americans don't know that he actually won the election in two thousand when all the votes in florida were finally counted and the results were announced two months after election day sorry two months after nine eleven it came out the gore had actually won by just a few hundred votes i mean despite all the votes oppression and the rigging he
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actually won now if he'd been allowed to serve you know i really strongly doubt we would have gone and invaded iraq i also strongly doubt that we would have ignored global warming you know so those are just a couple of significant differences sure but we aren't that mark but who do we blame anyone but these people who can see and take a dive after today when i mean if there is. i just don't understand i mean yes of course there are significant differences domestically where you know but i mean when you're looking at yes the republicans may have hijacked this whole rig system of elections but i mean jeez i really can't blame anyone else but the people who are letting it happen that have no spine well i completely agree with you there and i'm not going to argue with that i mean the people who roll over for that extremist faction are just as much to blame as the faction itself. i blame obama for not prosecuting bush cheney for war crimes right i mean we could go down that road and
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we go down hand in hand i completely i completely agree with you. and let's not let's not stop there in assigning blame ok let's let's notice too that again the press that the corporate press the new york times and the rest of them and most of the progressive media are equally to blame for treating this whole subject as conspiracy theory you know despite the fact that there is no end of evidence that this is been going on let me give you just one example out of many and it's a. the harrowing story you know the reelection victory of bush cheney in ohio was arranged primarily by a man named mike connell who was karl rove's i t. guru very conservative extremely conservative catholic who did what he did primarily because he wanted to in his words save the babies i mean he was a radical anti-abortion activist also kind of a computer genius now he actually set up
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a computer architecture for use in the two thousand and four election that involved it's a system called man in the middle and it's used by criminals often to you know still cash from financial institutions and so on what he did was he set up a mirror site. you know run through a computer in a basement chattanooga that allowed outside actors to actually manipulate the vote count in ohio this is a fact and the reason i say it was with such assurance is that the contract that my connell signed with secretary of state ken blackwell is is publicly available and in fact it's on my blog news from underground so if people just go to mark crispin miller dot com they can read the contract that you know someone yeah i did and
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see for themselves that this mirror site was set up and as as computer expert stevens moore has said a republican by the way that there is no other purpose to build such a site than to steal an election or get into the details of what happened in ohio on that night you realize that the exit polls had it right john kerry won that election and let me simply agree with you again that kerry is to blame for rolling over also his campaign actually banked millions of dollars to use in the the event . election was stolen and not only has carried never addressed this publicly and i'm not the only person he told privately he thought it was a stone but they never spent a dime of that money and helping to expose that particular crime which is necessary in order to get the american people to see that we have to do something about our election system we have to get rid of computerized voting we have to get rid of computerized vote counting across the board period and we need it for we we also
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have to forbid the participation of any private companies in our election system absolutely and mark something that should be privatized that absolutely has to be changed absolutely and as soon as possible or work or at least school and it doesn't matter what move on does it doesn't matter how hard we market we have to lower or unfortunately out of time but i couldn't agree with you more i remember that day like it was yesterday it was a terrible day for the democracy and and everything else thank you so much for your work all the election was rigged from the top down mark crispin miller and when you professor and author fooled again the real case for electoral reform very important issues mark thanks for coming on thank you for having. folks when it comes down to it the other elections are rigged but it's not just the voter id laws or other forms of disenfranchisement it's the fact that we're given a false choice from the onset the fact of the corporate media is complicit in pushing this false choice and if electoral college an antiquated system that no longer applies to the society so even if we wanted free and fair elections
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